From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #188 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 1 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 188 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? [Bob Muller ] Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? ["Jamie Zubairi Home" ] Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: A melody in your name [Dave Blackburn ] Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express [Dave Blackburn ] Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express [Wtking59@cs.com] Re: Songs not on albums [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: songs not on albums [David Sapp ] Re: songs not on albums [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: songs not on albums [David Sapp ] RE: Songs not on albums ["Kate Bennett" ] Jonifest in Winnipeg aka Pegfest 2009 [Mags ] Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? [Vince ] sorry everyone forgot the tag [Vince ] for free times two [Mags ] Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs [Patti Parlette ] Who is Juan? ["Lindsay Moon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:59:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? I know that "Juan" is Jann Wenner - I forget who Freddy is or maybe we never knew. Bob NP: Prince, "Satisfied" - ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Harper To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:32:56 PM Subject: FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? Ken and I were just observing the tenth anniversary, and came up with the question in the subject header. _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:54:42 +0100 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: RE; Favourite Characters I would fancy a night out with Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. I imagine she would drink lots of tequila as well as hang out with eagles and serpents. Anita _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. SPAMfighter has removed 867 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:28 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio Kate wrote: Would that be worldwide or just in your country? Mark in Sydney (waiting for the day we get a President - Scorpio or whatever) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:24:20 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? wasn't Freddy Fred Walecki who made Joni her VG-8. A musician and luthier. That's what the list was saying a few years ago. 2008/9/30 Bob Muller > I know that "Juan" is Jann Wenner - I forget who Freddy is or maybe we > never knew. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Satisfied" > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Harper > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:32:56 PM > Subject: FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? > > Ken and I were just observing the tenth anniversary, and came up with the > question in the subject header. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. > > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 > F681DAD532637 > !5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:30:05 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: ZODIAC And ZEN -- Psychedelic Jon I have to agree with you, Billy. I've always liked Roses Blue although, I do find it a bit depressing too. Clouds was, I think, the first Joni album I listened to and Roses Blue expressed a lot of what I was going through at the time - getting into zodiac and Zen with a close friend at the time along with Pop Psychology and such. I really related to that song. Just like Rose, I felt quite disconnected from society. Mark in Sydney NP Older (Instrumental) - George Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:54:17 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Songs not on albums I have actually recompiled and repackaged Blue for my own taste. This is the tracklist on my version of Blue: 1. All I Want 2. My Old Man 3. Little Green 4. Carey 5. Hunter (The Good Samaritan) 6. Blue 7. California 8. This Flight Tonight 9. River 10. A Case of You 11. The Last Time I Saw Richard 12. Urge For Going 13. Blue (reprise) with Paul Horn I also repackaged the CD with an alternate, better quality photograph from the same shoot as the cover. If you'd like to see that photo, check out my wallpaper for Blue on www.jmdl.com/wallpaper It is only slightly different from the cover photo but it shows Joni much clearer to my (blue) eyes and you can see the microphone clearer too. Mark in Sydney PS RIP Paul Newman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:10:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? Good call, Jamie - By George I think you've got it. "Freddie said that Juan thinks I think he's the devil" (A horrid lyric btw) She would have been talking a lot to Walecki in those VG8 days. Bob NP: Ani, "Welcome To:" (her new one drops today!) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:02:15 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: A melody in your name As it happens Catherine Jeff Hankins just recorded it at Jonifest, the download for which will be available very shortly. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:41:33 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Billy wrote: > Therefore, I think that comparing the brilliant 'Miles of Aisles' > to the > comparatively disastrous 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' (or even > 'Hejira,' for that > matter) is sorta like comparing Barack Obama to John McCain. To me, > there IS > no comparison. Oooooohh Billy....I think you'll encounter a certain amount of disagreement there, both the premise and the comparison. Wear a fire proof suit for a few weeks. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:27:37 -0400 From: Steve Harper Subject: RE: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? Thanks, guys! Y'all are great. Steve To: jamiezubairi@gmail.com CC: joni@smoe.org; swharper@hotmail.com Subject: Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:10:27 -0400 Good call, Jamie - By George I think you've got it. "Freddie said that Juan thinks I think he's the devil" (A horrid lyric btw) She would have been talking a lot to Walecki in those VG8 days. Bob NP: Ani, "Welcome To:" (her new one drops today!)------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:41:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Songs not on albums Quirky is good! Quirky is joni! kate Jeff >The album I'd REALLY want to re-jig would be Clouds. Sure, I love it but it has a feel of being assembled without due thought (sacrilege?): 'Songs to Aging Children'/'Roses Blue' - both great songs but too quirky.< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:58:13 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express LOL, Dave -- But, yeah--I know ...... Guess I went a little over-the-top THIS time, didn't I? ;-) Especially by comparing the current Presidential nominees to works of art (what the he# was I thinking?--LOL). Yet, at the same time I suppose I made my point. And it's NOT as if I absolutely hate 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' or 'Hejira.' After all, I'm SURE I had them both memorized within a week of their release. However, in retrospect I STILL feel they're vastly overrated, and that they remain the worst albums Joni had ever recorded up to that point. XXXOOO, Billy...snug in his fire-proof suit (and bullet-proof vest). ;-) NP: '...And I Mean It!' 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(beatntrack@71.136.250.186 with plain) by smtp120.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2008 14:44:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .ZQLAB8VM1n5LN_6A7Xm.IgVmMBHW.Q5ZG5cYRwAdUAuLcEBBwY.DxGvyAq y2YXh0ieP1sAJEgUJe0sO5Atg2D7BkN9QXXaMy_eRwitg27Ubo0Olvr6i_t6p5vtqCztQW qxYeSIr1wtH0sbxs8HCRlPi2c1b X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <200809300700.m8U70IMJ006650@smoe.org> References: <200809300700.m8U70IMJ006650@smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:41:33 -0700 To: joni@smoe.org, Wtking59@cs.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-AOL-IP: 69.147.64.93 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : smtp120.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ; SPF_helo = n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: domain : sbcglobal.net ; SPF_822_from = n On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Billy wrote: > Therefore, I think that comparing the brilliant 'Miles of Aisles' > to the > comparatively disastrous 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' (or even > 'Hejira,' for that > matter) is sorta like comparing Barack Obama to John McCain. To me, > there IS > no comparison. Oooooohh Billy....I think you'll encounter a certain amount of disagreement there, both the premise and the comparison. Wear a fire proof suit for a few weeks. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:53:53 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Songs not on albums Quirky **IS** good. Quirky is definitely NOT Joni. Quirky is Frank Zappa, They Might Be Giants, Sufjan Stevens - they do (or did in the case of Zappa) quirky pretty solid. Joni, not so much. Kate, you might want to check your Quirkometer and get it re-calibrated. Bob NP: B-52's, "Love Shack" (they did quirky pretty good too, they just didn't know when to quit) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: songs not on albums Okay Muller... I have to disagree vigorously : --) on leaving Nathan LaFreneer off of STAS. It is a harbinger of things to come... the first recorded song that has what I call that rolling sound... the music sounds as if we are in the cab headed for the airport. And of course that sound reached its zenith on Hejira. Conceptually it is a song that takes us from the city to the seaside. I believe it is Marcie who is in the cab to leave her desperate loneliness behind. It has an antiwar, environmental message... contains some classic dualism... an aging cripple selling Superman balloons. It's just a great little mystery of a song. And there's something about it which always reminded me of a Jeff Buckley song... of course I don't know who was influenced by who, but I hear a lot of those references in early Joni. And on top of all that I simply love the song. On another note thank you so much for the Sharon stuff... what a wonderful gift... signing off for now, Peace, David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:07:17 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: songs not on albums Really? Kind of interesting since Jeff Buckley was TWO when STAS came out. LOL, I know you meant TIM Buckley and not Jeff, you just were a little bucked up there. As for Nathan La Freneer, I'm not lobbying for its removal from STAS, I'm just saying that she had some better ones at the time than what she went with. I like STAS as it is just fine - Clouds too. Bob NP: Bonnie, "(Goin') Wild For You Baby" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: songs not on albums You got me there Bob... Tim Buckley it is... LOL - --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: songs not on albums To: "David Sapp" Cc: "joni list" Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 3:07 PM Really? Kind of interesting since Jeff Buckley was TWO when STAS came out. LOL, I know you meant TIM Buckley and not Jeff, you just were a little bucked up there. As for Nathan La Freneer, I'm not lobbying for its removal from STAS, I'm just saying that she had some better ones at the time than what she went with. I like STAS as it is just fine - Clouds too. Bob NP: Bonnie, "(Goin') Wild For You Baby"------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:03 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Songs not on albums I don't think so Bobster! My quirkometer has a very wide range. Joni has some quirky songs (as some have been mentioned here recently including your favorite PoP which I LOVE) so to me that makes her quirky. Not 100% of the time but she isn't anything 100% of the time, Kate _____ From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:54 AM To: Kate Bennett Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Songs not on albums Quirky **IS** good. Quirky is definitely NOT Joni. Quirky is Frank Zappa, They Might Be Giants, Sufjan Stevens - they do (or did in the case of Zappa) quirky pretty solid. Joni, not so much. Kate, you might want to check your Quirkometer and get it re-calibrated. Bob - --------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:09:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Jonifest in Winnipeg aka Pegfest 2009 greetings all, as it stands, I have not had any luck in finding the *right* location for Pegfest. Ive got a full plate of work/family things going on now, and really cannot come through with anything that would work. Ive been trying to find a low cost, simple place, but just cant. Unless a littlel miracle happens, I may as well bow out for 2009 anyway. Dave Blackburn has graciously been writing to me off list , waiting in the wings for me to make a decision. Dave, I thank you for your time and patience, and of course the kindness shown. I know that the SoCal fest will be brilliant fun. take care all Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:58:55 -0400 From: Vince Subject: Re: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? Freddie is Freddie garcia, Detroit pitcher who lost to the White Sox yesterday Juan is Juan Uribe, Sox shortstop and this year great third baseman filling ion for Joe Crede Here we go White Sox, beat the _____ Twins Vince On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > I know that "Juan" is Jann Wenner - I forget who Freddy is or maybe we > never knew. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Satisfied" > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steve Harper > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:32:56 PM > Subject: FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? > > Ken and I were just observing the tenth anniversary, and came up with the > question in the subject header. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. > > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 > F681DAD532637 > !5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:00:15 -0400 From: Vince Subject: sorry everyone forgot the tag This of course is NJC sorry On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Vince wrote: > Freddie is Freddie garcia, Detroit pitcher who lost to the White Sox > yesterday > > Juan is Juan Uribe, Sox shortstop and this year great third baseman filling > ion for Joe Crede > > Here we go White Sox, beat the _____ Twins > > Vince > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > >> I know that "Juan" is Jann Wenner - I forget who Freddy is or maybe we >> never knew. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: Prince, "Satisfied" >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Steve Harper >> To: joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:32:56 PM >> Subject: FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? >> >> Ken and I were just observing the tenth anniversary, and came up with the >> question in the subject header. >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. >> >> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 >> F681DAD532637 >> !5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: for free times two someone, sorry i forget who, had mentioned they liked the character in the song 'for free' so i went looking for an early version. and found the gorgeous bbc 1970. she's just so beautiful here. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=HmzN1p5q2sY and then i found this: beautiful and tender http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=sLahlYFYBBw i love some of the comments, including a marriage proposal ;-) mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 02:39:25 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs Kate from CA wrote: I don't know if she's my favorite but there is something about Marcie that always got to me so deeply. And years later, with the knowledge we have of her life & her becoming pregnant, it makes sense why that song was so deep. Then on the other side of the emotional spectrum were Trina, Annie & Estrella who in a way, now that I think of it, were some of my biggest influences. I became, as well as lived among, them when I moved to California. **** Encore une fois, high-five Kate! Yes, Marcie, poor Marcie, always waiting for that letter (please please Mr. Postman) and unable to find comfort in melancholy. And of course those lovely Ladies of the Canyon. I've been thinking on this one. Joni has endeared us to all of her characters, so it's a Sophie's Choice. And then it came to me, like lightning striking from above...no contest. Willy! I would be his lady all my life. He is a simple man, and he sings a simple song. Have I ever told you how much I love Graham Nash? (LOL, I know I have....) From Bus Stop and Carrie Anne to Songs for Beginners, and our shared abhorrence for Military Madness, and then of course his solid love for Joni, expressed so purely and reverently in the WOHAM documentary. I'm so excited that I'm going to be seeing him in two weeks! He and Croz are going to put on some kind of harmony! xo, pp P.S. Oh yes, all the Sharon stuff is GREAT! Thanks BM & CoT. Like Kenny B, I can't wait to hear about that road trip. Fourteen-year old girls traveling in some vehicle with parents. I have a few stories of my own. Fourteen-year old girls HAVE to be together. I remember a trip to Lake George (Carnival in Kenora/Song About the Midway atmosphere) in 1968 (or 1969?) w/ my friend Rose and her parents, the two of us thrilling to each others words in the back seat, and the music on the radio. Dock of the Bay and Brown Sugar come to mind. (Songs are like tattoos.) You never forget those trips! And all the times my Mom drove us through the town, letting us sing Lady Madonna at the top of our lungs.... I hadn't seen Rose in nearly 30 years (the last time I saw Rose was Waterbury in 1975, when we ran into each other after a Fleetwood Mac concert), but we reconnected when our Moms were sick. Her Mom died last year, and I went to the wake (a four-hour drive on a school night, but no regrets, coyotes). There was a long line, and I was at the end of it, but when Rose saw me, she just blew by everyone else and said: "Awww. You came!" After an interminable beautiful hug, she walked me up to the coffin and said: "Look, Mom. You brought us back together!" I then went on to reminisce about listening to Tapestry in her bedroom all the time, and then Rose said: "Yeah, and JONI!" I have to wonder how it was with Sharon and Joni at her mother's services. NPIMH: Old Friends, Simon and Garfunkel (you know the lyrics...I'm not going to post them because then you'll all be pickin' on me again....LOL!) "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express I have to respond to a few things in your post. First of all, ouch! Your slam of THOSL is like a stake going into my own heart! I'm kidding of course but that is one of the best albums ever recorded (not to mention my favorite Joni album...followed closely by Blue) in my opinion. It is an album I very often listen to. Harry's House and Sweet Bird are two songs that I could not live without. Now I can't say that you are wrong in your opinion of it as music is subjective. But oh how subjective it is! When you throw THOSL on, you hear a "dated, artificial sound." When I throw it on, I hear a "fresh, welcoming, soothing sound." I also especially love Joni's vocals on the entire album. They are very crisp, cool, and breezy. Though I do enjoy MOA, I'd choose THOSL over it hands down. Although I can speculate why MOA did so well on the charts yet does so poorly (or perhaps the correct statement would be why it does not do as well) on JMDL polls. This was the album following C&S. C&S hit it big and made Joni not only an artist but a star. She had always been an artist but her star power was at its greatest after C&S. Since that particular album did so well on the charts, the people who were into C&S decided to of course stick around and see what else Joni had to offer at the time. Now not all of them stuck around, because as with many hit albums, people tend to like the hit and nothing more (unless you are indeed a fan!). Now on the polls, I'd speculate people just like other albums more--particularly other studio albums as most of the songs came from previous studio albums. That's all. No big reason behind it I think. Although I will say this about MOA, which tends to put me in the minority as far as this version is concerned. I absolutely love the MOA Woodstock. I love the funky, jazzy, rocky rendition of it. I often read the word "dated" applied to that version but I love it. That is my story and I'm sticking to it. - -Monika NP: Just for Today- George Harrison VERY interesting that everyone LOVES this sensational version of "Rainy Night House" so much, while the disc it's taken from ('Miles of Aisles') always seems to languish somewhat in the (JMDL) album poll. This is especially troubling to me since it tied as one of her two most commercially successful recordings (along with 'Court And Spark,' it reached #2 on the Billboard album charts) shortly after its late-1974 release date (note: by far, the closest she's ever come--before or since--has been #4 with 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' in '75). Gotta say it all kinda reminds me of the way our current--and inexplicably baffling--Presidential polls are shaping up. And THIS after the worst political administration in U.S. history. I mean, I really don't understand how they can even be CLOSE after all the corruption and lies of the past eight years. But, maybe it's just me. The wonderful, "reworked" arrangements on 'MOA' (by Tom Scott and The L.A. Express) still sound so organic and fresh--particularly when compared to the dated, artificial sound of 'THOSL.' And Joni's strong, soaring vocals on this historic tour remain the greatest of her entire career. Therefore, I think that comparing the brilliant 'Miles of Aisles' to the comparatively disastrous 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' (or even 'Hejira,' for that matter) is sorta like comparing Barack Obama to John McCain. To me, there IS no comparison. IMO, the hands-down winners of BOTH should be obvious to anyone with ears and/or a functioning brain! :-o So, vote OBAMA (...and 'Miles of Aisles') !!! XXXOOO, Billy P.S. Did that sound HARSH? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:52:54 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio Good question, dunno... probably it was just in the USA but maybe not depending on the astrologer Mark in Sydney>>> Would that be worldwide or just in your country?< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:18:14 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Who is Juan? Bob, you wrote: <> Bob I thought I remembered reading that "Juan" was a known nickname for Jackson Browne. And Freddy is Freddy Walecki. In fact, I think it was Freddy that tipped it that Juan was Jackson. But then we're dealing with my failing memory . Lindsay ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #188 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe