From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #181 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, September 24 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 181 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Birthday, now jc [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] SV: Birthday, now jc ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: SV: Birthday, now jc [do9eatdo9@yahoo.com] Notes from Sharon [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Notes from Sharon [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Notes from Sharon [Kate Johnson ] Re: Notes from Sharon [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Notes from Sharon [Bob Muller ] Thanks Sharon! and poll... ["Pamela" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:09:53 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Birthday, now jc - -original message- Subject: Re: Birthday, njc From: Monika Bogdanowicz Date: 23.09.2008 7:51 pm Have a good birthday Bob. Put some Joni on. Sure, Joni has nothing really to do with birthdays but her music is good for any day! >>> There IS a song on her album that clearly speaks about birthday. A birthday cake thrown to Bob's face if you can mention the song. Yes. I'm quizzing you (and everybody else here). Rian NP. Meiko Kaji - Urami Bushi (grudge blues) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:01:02 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Birthday, now jc First of all, Happy Birthday, Bob! Secondly, what happened? I haven't received any listmail for a couple of days so I thought you had all gone to sleep or away over the weekend but somebody must have mentioned Bob's birthday, and maybe I missed other important news? And Rian, the song is Little Green. "...and birthday clothes..." Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Skickat: den 23 september 2008 17:10 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: Birthday, now jc - -original message- Subject: Re: Birthday, njc From: Monika Bogdanowicz Date: 23.09.2008 7:51 pm Have a good birthday Bob. Put some Joni on. Sure, Joni has nothing really to do with birthdays but her music is good for any day! >>> There IS a song on her album that clearly speaks about birthday. A birthday cake thrown to Bob's face if you can mention the song. Yes. I'm quizzing you (and everybody else here). Rian NP. Meiko Kaji - Urami Bushi (grudge blues) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:51:16 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: RE: SV: Birthday, now jc Marion guessed: And Rian, the song is Little Green. "...and birthday clothes..." >> Not correct. Little green has "birthday" on it, but it's really not about birthday. Still unanswered. Next? Rian NPIMH: Little Green ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:26:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Notes from Sharon Hi all - I was delighted to find in my mailbox this morning the following communique from Sharon (Bell) Veer - the "Sharon" in Joni's "Song For Sharon". I asked her a couple of questions based on the responses I got from y'all and some of my own. Here's what she had to say: Q: Did Joni talk to you at all about "Song For Sharon" before she wrote it or released it? A: No I did not have any idea that Joni was going to write a song for me and the first I heard of it was when my sister phoned and informed me. The last time I saw Joni was at her mother's funeral in Saskatoon nearly a year and a half ago.It was a very small private service to which she invited Cliff and I and Lisa, and it provided an opportunity to "catch up" A few of her cousins and I were talking and in the course of the conversation she said, " I wrote a song for Sharon you know" It wouldn't occur to her that this would be anything out of the ordinary.And I guess I didn't think so either, because I never really told many people about it - at least not until sometime later when it seemed people were interested. Q: In the song, there's a line about "skating after golden Reggie"...to whom was Joni referring? A: I can't tell you for sure who Golden Reggie is - my recollection is that there was a boy she was interested in, but I can't be sure. We did, however, take a real interest in the weddings in our little church in Maidstone. (Back in the day when anyone who wanted to could come and watch) I maintained my friendship with Joan (as I knew her then) when they moved to North Battleford -visiting often. Q: Are there any particular memories of your childhood friendship that you'd like to share? A: "When they lived in Saskatoon, I visited often as well and my strongest memories are of a road trip I went on with Joni and her parents in about 1957 - have pictures of that trip and will have to look them up to see the exact dates. We travelled through the states to eastern Canada - a wonderful trip for a couple of teens - our heartthrob was Pat Boone and favorite song was 'Love Letters in the Sand'". Q: What are your thoughts on the song itself ("Song For Sharon")? A: "Since there seems to be (an) interest in the song she wrote, I may think about writing a memoir of our friendship. As for the song - there have been questions about the reversed roles we ended up in - me wanting to be a singer and she wanting to be a farmer's wife. That isn't the way I remember it and am not convinced that there is much to read into the final words of the song except that she was at a crossroads and it seems to me that she was doing some reflection on very happy and simpler times for her. I'm fairly introverted and while I love to entertain people with my music and am most comfortable in front of an audience, I never really wanted fame or did aspire to the life of an entertainer and I believe Joni was always cut out to be an artist in every sense of the word. I am still married to my farmer and still live on the farm on which he was born - how's that for stability? And yes, I still sing for my family and friends - -although I'd have to admit more for my friends, since my four grown children don't show all that much interest in my music except on special occasions (perhaps with the exception of Lisa). My grandchildren, on the other hand, love me to sing to them. I have had a wonderful relationship with Joni's parents over the years (Myrt was really a surrogate grandmother to Lisa) and still see her dad whenever I get to Saskatoon. Joni and I have talked about meeting at her place in Sechelt and hope that will happen sometime in the near future - but as you will know she does not let grass grow under her feet! I hope my ramblings have answered at least some of your wonderings." Sharon closed her note to me by saying that we should feel free to contact her if we wanted any other information. I for one would LOVE to see those 1957 pictures... Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen (that other birthday boy), "No Surrender" (song dedication to PP!) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:04:18 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Notes from Sharon Thanks, Bob. Those are wonderful notes, very informative. I wonder if she realizes how important a song most Joni fans consider Song for Sharon? I would venture many would put it up there with her best. Jerry P.S. How does it feel to finally be as old as Smurph???? > Hi all - I was delighted to find in my mailbox this morning the following > communique from Sharon (Bell) Veer - the "Sharon" in Joni's "Song For > Sharon". I asked her a couple of questions based on the responses I got > from y'all and some of my own. Here's what she had to say: > > Q: Did Joni talk to you at all about "Song For Sharon" before she wrote it > or released it? > > A: No I did not have any idea that Joni was going to write a song for me > and the first I heard of it was when my sister phoned and informed me. The > last time I saw Joni was at her mother's funeral in Saskatoon nearly a > year and a half ago.It was a very small private service to which she > invited Cliff and I and Lisa, and it provided an opportunity to "catch up" > A few of her cousins and I were talking and in the course of the > conversation she said, " I wrote a song for Sharon you know" It wouldn't > occur to her that this would be anything out of the ordinary.And I guess I > didn't think so either, because I never really told many people about it - > at least not until sometime later when it seemed people were interested. > > Q: In the song, there's a line about "skating after golden Reggie"...to > whom was Joni referring? > > A: I can't tell you for sure who Golden Reggie is - my recollection is > that there was a boy she was interested in, but I can't be sure. We did, > however, take a real interest in the weddings in our little church in > Maidstone. (Back in the day when anyone who wanted to could come and > watch) I maintained my friendship with Joan (as I knew her then) when they > moved to North Battleford -visiting often. > > Q: Are there any particular memories of your childhood friendship that > you'd like to share? > > A: "When they lived in Saskatoon, I visited often as well and my strongest > memories are of a road trip I went on with Joni and her parents in about > 1957 - have pictures of that trip and will have to look them up to see the > exact dates. We travelled through the states to eastern Canada - a > wonderful trip for a couple of teens - our heartthrob was Pat Boone and > favorite song was 'Love Letters in the Sand'". > > Q: What are your thoughts on the song itself ("Song For Sharon")? > > A: "Since there seems to be (an) interest in the song she wrote, I may > think about writing a memoir of our friendship. As for the song - there > have been questions about the reversed roles we ended up in - me wanting > to be a singer and she wanting to be a farmer's wife. That isn't the way I > remember it and am not convinced that there is much to read into the final > words of the song except that she was at a crossroads and it seems to me > that she was doing some reflection on very happy and simpler times for > her. I'm fairly introverted and while I love to entertain people with my > music and am most comfortable in front of an audience, I never really > wanted fame or did aspire to the life of an entertainer and I believe Joni > was always cut out to be an artist in every sense of the word. I am still > married to my farmer and still live on the farm on which he was born - > how's that for stability? And yes, I still sing for my family and friends > -although I'd have to admit more for my friends, since my four grown > children don't show all that much interest in my music except on special > occasions (perhaps with the exception of Lisa). My grandchildren, on the > other hand, love me to sing to them. I have had a wonderful relationship > with Joni's parents over the years (Myrt was really a surrogate > grandmother to Lisa) and still see her dad whenever I get to Saskatoon. > Joni and I have talked about meeting at her place in Sechelt and hope that > will happen sometime in the near future - but as you will know she does > not let grass grow under her feet! > I hope my ramblings have answered at least some of your wonderings." > > Sharon closed her note to me by saying that we should feel free to contact > her if we wanted any other information. I for one would LOVE to see those > 1957 pictures... > > Bob > > NP: Bruce Springsteen (that other birthday boy), "No Surrender" (song > dedication to PP!) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:02:55 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Notes from Sharon This is so nice; just another one of the gems to be found only on this discussion list. Thanks for passing it on, and gracias to Sharon. Kate Stubblejumpers Cafi http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:25:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Notes from Sharon Thanks for posting the responses Bob. Also let Sharon know we really, greatly appreciate it. She didn't have to say or do anything, you know what I mean? It was very kind of her. Now you said you'd love to see those pictures. I'll second that but I would also LOVE to read that memoir Sharon mentioned she may write about their friendship. How insightful and interesting could that be?? - -Monika - --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Hi all - I was delighted to find in my mailbox this morning the following communique from Sharon (Bell) Veer - the "Sharon" in Joni's "Song For Sharon". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Notes from Sharon I certainly will, Monika - and I intend to do a follow-up, it seems like she was sort of encouraging me to ask her some more stuff. Bob NP: The Black Keys, "I Cry Alone" (getting psyched to see them next Friday!) - ----- Original Message ---- From: Monika Bogdanowicz To: Joni people! ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:25:06 PM Subject: Re: Notes from Sharon Thanks for posting the responses Bob. Also let Sharon know we really, greatly appreciate it. She didn't have to say or do anything, you know what I mean? It was very kind of her. Now you said you'd love to see those pictures. I'll second that but I would also LOVE to read that memoir Sharon mentioned she may write about their friendship. How insightful and interesting could that be?? - -Monika - --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Hi all - I was delighted to find in my mailbox this morning the following communique from Sharon (Bell) Veer - the "Sharon" in Joni's "Song For Sharon". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:14:39 +0200 From: "Pamela" Subject: Thanks Sharon! and poll... Ciao!!! First I want to thank Sharon for the answers (and everyone who made this possible)... it's so emotional for me to read from her!! "Song for Sharon" is in some ways my favourite song...I have a particular bond with it and I've always travelled with my mind thinking about what Joni says in the lyrics... What a great great great song!!! I have a poll for you (can I say poll?): for each Joni's album which are the two more representative songs (the songs you would choose to take a picture of Joni, her life, her mood, her career, her music in that moment), or the two you like most? I ask you this for a precise purpose that I'm going to tell you next... Did I explained myself well?! Love to all the members and the rest of the world... Pamela ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #181 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe