From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #163 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 6 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 163 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JM Cookbooks ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Subject: PS22 Sings Circle Game ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: From Bo ["T Peckham" ] OK ["marian" ] Re: OK [Michael Paz ] Re: JM Cookbooks [Catherine McKay ] Re: OK [Victor Johnson ] Re: OK [Jeannie ] sjc, (mama) lions and pit bulls and (mama) bears, oh my! [Patti Parlette ] Glen Campbell [Happy The Man ] River live [Monika Bogdanowicz ] JM NYC TV Taping ["Barbara Stewart" ] Re: 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends [Kate Johnson ] Subject: PS22 Sings Circle Game ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: JM NYC TV Taping [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends [Michael Subject: Re: JM Cookbooks Marian you can't leave. I know you don't post often but I am always hppy when you do. For some who may be relatively new to the list, Marian is responsible for so many of the guitar tabs on the guitar site along with Sue & Howard. I've had the pleasure of meeting both Marian & Sue but haven't met Howard. I'm serious Marian, you can't leave. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 00:40:11 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Subject: PS22 Sings Circle Game So I watched this video this morning & sent it to a few of my friends & family who are currently singing in choruses (one of my best friends just sang at the Dem Convention before Obama accepted the nomination, what an experience she had!) Then I went to work with this song humming inside me all day (I have always & will always love this song). Leaving work lo & behold on the sidewalk in front of me I spy the biggest most beautiful blue eyed dragonfly I've ever seen! I grabbed my phone & was taking videos & photos until I realized something was wrong. She was whirring her wings (they are so beautiful, the finest most fragile lace- they are like fairy wings!) but she couldn't fly. When the wind picked up & blew her helplessly a few feet poor little thing, I realized I needed to help her & so I took her home. So now she is now living in, not a jar, but my biggest glass bowl with some leaves & hopefully some bugs are in the leaves & a bit of water. She is resting, I think she was exhausted (her wings are torn). I can't remember when I last saw a dragonfly. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:24:03 +0700 From: do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Subject: Joni's gayest album/song So FTR is her gayest album. But why? What makes this album gay? Explanation please. Plus, which Joni song is the gayest? My opinion: blank. What is the criteria for a song to be considered 'gay' anyway? Rian who owns 7 of the top 10 albums on the list. NP: Tracy C - Fastcar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 06:20:37 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums Hi Mark, thanks for correcting me regarding Kate's number of mentions (2). She deserves far for attention in the US than she has ever garnered as she did in her native England. And as for the issue of honesty in music, Joni no doubt is as honest as they come, but so for that matter is Kate Bush, she just has a bit of a more eccentric manner and her lyrics are somewhat more idiosyncratic - but her vocals are filled with emotion, and there is a real genuineness about them. So genuine at times I think it can be unnerving to the "average" listener, and even I have to give myself breaks from Kate's music, it really can be quite intense. I remember my mom saying, "You're not playing HER again!!!" Hounds of Love I have no quarrel with - a fantastic album - The Kick Inside, however, was her first album, and her voice at that time, kinda like Joni's at first, was a soprano capable of reaching all kinds of dizzying notes. I think any of the albums after "Lionheart" would have been better choices, but oh well... Yes and exactly why wasn't Rickie Lee Jones on the list?? Yes I too was startled by Bab's lack of mention on the list. In fact I reviewed it a second time just to make sure I hadn't accidentally missed her. I must have failed Gay 101. My knowledge of Judy Garland is even more limited that that of Babs...bringing into question my true sexuality again I guess!!! I think what it is with singers and myself actually, including Babs and others, is that I am mainly drawn to those that write, sing, and play the instruments themselves (I've never seen Morrissey play an instrument (ahem!) but I know he does write his own music, he is a talented lyricist. (Linda Ronstadt, a singer extrraoridnaire may be the one big exception to this - Karla Bonoff (whose songs "Someone To Lay Down Beside Me", "'Lose Again" and "Goodbye My Friend" were beautifully covered by Ms. Ronstadt, is another singer/songwriter in a similar vein I like. I'm thinking of one artist right now - Matraca Berg for some reason..."Back When We Were Beautiful"... who deserves much, much more attention (even from myself). Interesting also that all the musicians I named, The Smiths (Morrissey), Indigo Girls, Sarah McLachlan, and Tori Amso also included Joni as one of their biggest influences, with the exceptions being Kate Bush and Patti Smith. Yes even, Madonna, remember she practically had "C&S" memorized?? I often wonder if this influence culminated in her opus "Confessions On a Dance Floor" ...ok just kidding... I'll stop I'm being silly. - -- - - A very sleepy Mark in Florida On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Mark Scott wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Angelo" > To: "Mark Scott" > Cc: "Jerry Notaro" ; "jon i" > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums > > > 1 Kate Bush, > > Actually Kate has 2 on the list. 'Hounds of Love' and 'The Kick Inside' > >> >> I've never owned a Bette Midler album, nor a Barbara Streisand album >> either >> for that matter, but Barbara's not being included on the list has finally >> convinced me I'm not a "closet" straight person. >> > > I didn't notice the absence of Babs! How funny, girl! Apparently she's no > longer considered 'cool' in the gay world. Still I think if they're going > to include Garland, they should include Streisand. They are, after all the > grandmother and mother of gay icons! > > Have you ever seen their duet from 'The Judy Garland Show'? A very young > Barbra starts off with 'Happy Days Are Here Again' and Judy comes in with > 'Get Happy' underneath her. By the end of the thing they are both at full > throttle and it is something else again! The 2 songs actually fit quite > well together, both lyrically and melodically. > > Mark in Seattle > aka Chatty Cathy tonight for some reason > > - -- - -Mark in Florida ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 05:26:27 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: From Bo Hey Bo, re Guv'nor Palin: What you said! (Except I don't think she wrote much of that speech . . . not Fascist Karl's style to let his puppets speak unscripted, dontcha know.) I've been meaning to say hello ever since you welcomed me to the list--thank you! I recognize a kindred brain--er, spirit. ;-) Are you familiar with John McManamy's website, mcmanweb dot com and his book? I highly recommend them. Please feel free to write me offlist if you'd like. Cheers, Terra NP: The gazillionth rerun of "A Few Good Men" on TNT--salve for the insomniac. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Peep Richman wrote: > Well...I actually watched the entire horror show...then I immediately went > to get Joni's "The Beginning Of Survival". I want to send Palin and 'them' > a copy of Chief Seattle's Letter To The President"...I'm not convinced any > of 'them'can read...comprehend...consider...ponder...experience empathy (if > they've ever heard of the word)...Palin can easily be diagnosed as having a > life-long case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder...as a matter of fact, > she meets the criteria for most of the personality disorders according to > the American psychiatric DSM. [SNIP] - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 04:39:50 -0700 From: "marian" Subject: OK I feel a need to write something to say that I've decided to return. I received a number of very kind and heartwarming messages from various individuals here that I will respond to as soon as I can. I had to come in to work today and it's looks like I will still need to be here awhile, so I will write a personal reply to everyone who kindly wrote to me when I'm home again. The message from Bob Murphy was not the only message I received. I got a second one that was a lot more dark and terrible and I read the the two messages one after the other, so I felt deeply shocked that people could be so angry with me. I'm not sure the other message went to the whole list, but at the time I thought that it had and that many people shared the angry views of the writer. I felt utterly humiliated and ashamed and like I didn't want to be here anymore. I can't bear such negativity in any part of my life and I apologize sincerely for having been the cause of angry messages from others here because of my bad behaviour. I just wanted to say publically that I now know, painfully and without any doubt, what Bob might more tactfully have said that it really isn't right to forward private email to the list. I don't think I knew this consciously before. I've already said that I wasn't trying to demonize anyone - fowarding the emails was rash, inconsiderate and careless, and I am sorry. I have no hard feelings towards Bob Murphy. I have fond memories of him from Jonifest 2002, and have enjoyed his wise presence on the list for many years. I hope the NJC people will forgive yet another NJC post from me. I wanted to reach everyone with this apology. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 06:59:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: OK no apologies necessary marian. Glad you decided to stick around. Hopefully we can move on now and keep the positive vibes up. Thanks for all your contributions to this community. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:39 AM, marian wrote: I feel a need to write something to say that I've decided to return. I received a number of very kind and heartwarming messages from various individuals here that I will respond to as soon as I can. I had to come in to work today and it's looks like I will still need to be here awhile, so I will write a personal reply to everyone who kindly wrote to me when I'm home again. The message from Bob Murphy was not the only message I received. I got a second one that was a lot more dark and terrible and I read the the two messages one after the other, so I felt deeply shocked that people could be so angry with me. I'm not sure the other message went to the whole list, but at the time I thought that it had and that many people shared the angry views of the writer. I felt utterly humiliated and ashamed and like I didn't want to be here anymore. I can't bear such negativity in any part of my life and I apologize sincerely for having been the cause of angry messages from others here because of my bad behaviour. I just wanted to say publically that I now know, painfully and without any doubt, what Bob might more tactfully have said that it really isn't right to forward private email to the list. I don't think I knew this consciously before. I've already said that I wasn't trying to demonize anyone - fowarding the emails was rash, inconsiderate and careless, and I am sorry. I have no hard feelings towards Bob Murphy. I have fond memories of him from Jonifest 2002, and have enjoyed his wise presence on the list for many years. I hope the NJC people will forgive yet another NJC post from me. I wanted to reach everyone with this apology. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 05:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JM Cookbooks - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Vince wrote: > Smurf is a good person. Marian is a good person. Yes. Absolutely. Love you all! __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:21:58 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: OK I second that motion. Let's keep up the positive vibes. There's been way too much made of this whole business. On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > no apologies necessary marian. Glad you decided to stick around. > Hopefully we can move on now and keep the positive vibes up. Thanks > for all > your contributions to this community. > > Love > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 08:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: OK Dearest Marian, Even though I do no not personally know you, I feel renewed and alive because you have decided to stay---remember, life, love, MichelAngelo style clouds which paint our blue skies ,our beloved planet and all of mankind are our causes and I think the reasons many of us are here...Joni's hopes are my hopes and so many other member's hopes. Jeannie PS: I love Joni and I love the JMDL no matter what we have to go through---it's all good here! - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Michael Paz wrote: > From: Michael Paz > Subject: Re: OK > To: "marian" > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 6:59 AM > no apologies necessary marian. Glad you decided to stick > around. > Hopefully we can move on now and keep the positive vibes > up. Thanks > for all > your contributions to this community. > > Love > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:39 AM, marian wrote: > > I feel a need to write something to say that I've > decided to return. I > received a number of very kind and heartwarming messages > from various > individuals here that I will respond to as soon as I can. > I had to > come in to > work today and it's looks like I will still need to be > here awhile, so > I will > write a personal reply to everyone who kindly wrote to me > when I'm > home again. > The message from Bob Murphy was not the only message I > received. I > got a > second one that was a lot more dark and terrible and I read > the the two > messages one after the other, so I felt deeply shocked that > people > could be so > angry with me. I'm not sure the other message went to > the whole list, > but at > the time I thought that it had and that many people shared > the angry > views of > the writer. I felt utterly humiliated and ashamed and like > I didn't > want to > be here anymore. I can't bear such negativity in any > part of my life > and I > apologize sincerely for having been the cause of angry > messages from > others > here because of my bad behaviour. I just wanted to say > publically > that I now > know, painfully and without any doubt, what Bob might more > tactfully > have said > that it really isn't right to forward private email to > the list. I > don't > think I knew this consciously before. I've already > said that I wasn't > trying > to demonize anyone - fowarding the emails was rash, > inconsiderate and > careless, and I am sorry. > > I have no hard feelings towards Bob Murphy. I > have fond memories of him from Jonifest 2002, and have > enjoyed his wise > presence on the list for many years. > I hope the NJC people will forgive yet > another NJC post from me. I wanted to reach everyone with > this apology. > Marian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:53:57 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc, (mama) lions and pit bulls and (mama) bears, oh my! Funny day, looking for laughter and finding it there.... Yesterday I changed the "status line" on my Facebook page to: "Patti was NEVER a pit bull with lipstick!" My Circle Game son's best friend since third grade (and partner on defense), Jason, added a comment: "I was there Patti, and you were more like a mama bear, My dad was a junkyard dog and Mr. Cass was usually the pitbull without the lipstick....Remember when Mr. Bowne bumped chests with that snooty Simsbury Mom (she wasn't a pitbull, more like a Shit-zu haha) what great memories and fun...." Sweet and funny. Ah, those damn hockey games. And the seasons, they go round and round...the years spin by and now these boys are 30! I'm tempted to correct him and tell him that I'm a mama LION, not a mama bear, but I'll let it be. Oh! Speaking of this boy, I forgot to share that the last song played at my son's wedding was "At Last". I glided up to Jason in my thirties evening gown and said: "Listen! It's a JONI SONG!" and he shot back: "No, it isn't. It's Etta James." And I shot back (hit me with your best shot, fire away): "But Joni sang it, too, so it counts! So I have got a thing that's unique and new, to prove it I'll have the last laugh on you, cuz instead of one Joni song at this wedding, we've got two!" He shakes his head, and tells me that I've changed. Change can be good sometimes, right? Darn right. Love, Patti P. P.S. to Kate and BM: Did I listen to the children singing Circle Game? I *started* to in the ole workplace but then had to shut it down. The tears were already starting to fall like wax does on those church candles. I knew it would start the water works up big time and I wouldn't be able to do my best and good business. Anyone who would have walked into my office (that gets very heavy traffic these days, with some heavy company) would have been subjected to some Joni-ranting and the wedding song, etc. I'll listen today when I have no witnesses. xoxox! P.P.S. Speaking of the ole workplace, I was interviewing a potential student worker one week last summer and she saw my "WWJD" magnet. She said: "What would JONI do?" I said: "Yep. Joni Mitchell. Do you like Joni Mitchell?" Her eyes lit up and she gushed: "I LOVE Joni Mitchell! And the Beatles, and....." HIRED! _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:25:20 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Glen Campbell I don't know if this has showed up on the list and I'm usually not one to post about other Albums but if you get a chance listen to the new Glen Campbell - Meet Glen Campbell. It's covers of The Beatles, Jackson Browne, Travis, U2, Green Day, Foo Fighters..... The guy's like 70 something and the album is great with musicians from pop groups Cheap Trick and Jellyfish (one of my favorite pop bands ever) backing him up. If you don't like the album I won't refund your money cause you be hatin. Peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: River live Some of you (or many of you) have probably heard this verson already but since it is a beautiful, live version of an already perfect song, I felt the need to share it for those who have not heard it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCov0TYXBp8 (From her concert with JT) You may now die happy. - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:16:00 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: JM NYC TV Taping I wrote into the email address and requested tickets a couple of days ago, but no response. It was supposed to have been Friday for replies. Did anyone on the list happen to get tickets? (And do you happen to have no other Joni fans in your circle and need someone to go with? :-))) ) B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums Interesting list but it makes me wonder. What makes an album "gay?" And if these are the greatest, "gayest" albums what are the greatest, "straightest" albums? I also found this quote a bit funny and strange: 99.Joni Mitchell, For the Roses, 1972 "An album to play alone in your bedroom when the phone doesn"t ring after your virginity is gone." -- Tom Kalin, director Savage Grace I don't think I'll ever listen to FTR the same again. I wonder why FTR was chosen? - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:27:27 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends From my friend who lives in Banff: "Last night, Elsie and I went to the Joni ballet, The Fiddle and the Drum at The Banff Centre, newly expanded to include another 4 songs, making it a full ballet. And we were part of the first audience to see it. T'was abso-tute-ly freakin' AWESOME! Jealous? To gild my goading lily, Joni and I were no more than 10 feet apart at intermission, outside the the theatre lobby, fouling the very same air with our nasty ciggy smoke. How cool is that???" Kate Stubblejumpers Cafi http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:14:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: 100 Greatest, Gayest Albums Monika, They were picked by GLBT people who felt they had affected them. Basically, music that gays listened to a lot and whose music affected them. I know out of the hundred I own many of them, and at least 15 were among my very favorites, FTR among them. Jerry Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Interesting list but it makes me wonder. What makes an album "gay?" > And if > these are the greatest, "gayest" albums what are the greatest, > "straightest" > albums? I also found this quote a bit funny and strange: > > 99.Joni Mitchell, For the Roses, 1972 > "An album to play alone in your bedroom when the phone doesn"t ring after > your > virginity is gone." -- Tom Kalin, director Savage Grace > > I don't think I'll ever listen to FTR the same again. I wonder why FTR > was > chosen? > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:14:17 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: Subject: PS22 Sings Circle Game This is the most beautiful I've seen and heard well, since Jonifest. But the fact that it is kids doing - making it their own. Well my skin was just all goosebumbs and I started crying. I touched me in a deep level Thanks Kate for reminding me - because I missed it the first time And thanks Bob for sharing. Thanks for spreading seeds of hope - we really need them in this world we live.... And children brings so much hope ! Love and bless from Oddmund who just come home after a Party in my library, where we celebrated all our wonderful kids who have participated in our summer reading campaign. This was just a perfect ending to that. Thank you so much, Bob ! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:21:22 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: JM NYC TV Taping I must have missed something. What is this referring to? Jack **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:00:56 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends Here is my holiday report after an exhilirating night in Banff, Alberta, nestled among the Canadian Rockies. Last night, my partner and I were one of the lucky few to see the new world premiere of the new extended ballet, FATD at the Banff Center theatre. It turns out that the Alberta Ballet had been offered a two-week residency to flesh out their short ballet into a full-length work. The gamble has paid off. I must admit I was somewhat sceptical at the outset, having seen the dance on DVD and thinking it was just OK. But seeing this new version,live, with the beautiful lighting and the full depth and darkness of the stage, brings a whole new dimension to the ballet, which is not easily captured by a camera. As Kate mentioned, the four new works are Shine, Woodstock(T-Log version), The Reoccurring Dream, and Ethiopia. The theatre is small and intimate; it seats about 650, and all seats were full - - a chatty, enthusiastic boomer crowd. The evening was prefaced by a welcome from a Banff Festival spokesperson, with warm thanks to sponsors such as Chevron Oil(!)as well as a short, largely inarticulate blurb from the Alberta Minister of Culture. The new ballet looks like this : TFATD - a sort of prelude - now done on a black stage without the curtain, since the company faced huge dry-cleaning bills from smeared body make-up in other theatres! Sex Kills - a very strong opener Passion Play - which revolves around a beautiful and athletic male pas de deux The Three Great Stimulants - featuring a triad of soloists Shine - a beautiful dance, which begins with the little girl in white, who is passed from the outstretched arms of one male dancer to another. The costumes are beautiful - all the dancers wear translucent, ankle-length burnt saffron skirts. Possibly the emotional high point of the evening. Woodstock - which begins and ends with a female dancer holding an earth ball above her head, while boys in military garb open with a brief war dance, while the other dancers grind their hips in an affirmation of life. Joni offers some of the lyrics to the to the song in the orb overhead. Part 1 closes with FTR, where a triad of couples waltzes through this romantic and lovely interpretation of the T-log version of the song. Thunderous applause after each dance. At intermission, I went outside for some air, and there was Joni surrounded by friends, discretely to the side, laughing and puffing away. People kept a polite distance; I suspect many did not even know she was among us. As the lights flashed for part 2, people began to file back slowly to their seats. I seized a split-second moment of opportunity to introduce myself to Joni, say hello, and shake her small and gentle hand. She smiled and we chatted briefly about the new pieces. She has beautiful blue eyes. A far too short, but happy Joni moment for me, at long last. Part 2 The Reoccurring Dream - set around a comical old lady watching TV with her cat at center stage , as the dancers impersonate all the different voices in the song - a very strong number. Ethiopia - a dark moody piece where the dancers impersonate animals under the hot african sun. Another knockout performance. Slouching Towards Bethlehem TBOBW IF I Had a Heart I'd Cry IF And BYT after the first curtain call. Much deserved wild applause and whoops and calls for the dancers, who are all beautiful, strong and athletic. They gave a wonderful performance. After the show, guests were invited to stay for a half-hour Q&A with the artists, moderated by Jean Grand-Maitre. He was accompanied by the lighting designer, a dancer, and JM ! Offered below are some of the exchanges between Joni and audience members, although all participants on the panel spoke about their particular perspectives on this project. How did the dancers react to having a non-dancer, Joni, coach them in their moves? They loved her support, energy, comments, and the subtext she offered them to understand the songs. As a nod and an inside joke for her contributions, it turns out that Grand-Maitre actually added one of Joni's personal exercises into the choreography - dancers rotating their hips with hands on their kneecaps. Joni recounted the story of her defective flat-scren TV as a cornucopia of art - - ultimately providing the images for the Green Flag show. Never one to shun controversy, she mentioned Bush, Hitler and Stalin all in the same sentence. She mentioned that the Episcapalian church is the only progressive church left in America - they have a female bishop. She spoke of her treatment by the music industry - how she is a long-distance runner, not the sprinter favoured by music executives. Finally, she spoke of our planetary war - Ecology VS Economy. Native tradition says we are now in the 4th world, which will end in fire. Our monotheistic and patriarchal religions are destroying the planet. We have to get ourselves back to the garden. I had a few questions for Grand-Maitre and Joni, which will wait for another day, since the curtain fell and the audience members left the auditorium feeling full, stimulated and entertained. A memmorable evening was had by all, I'm sure. I did not see any media present. The new show will be re-premiered in Calgary and Edmonton during the winter of 2009. There are plans in the making for a world tour. See this new show if you can. It won't disappoint. Michael in Quebec, from Calgary Kate wrote: Subject: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends From my friend who lives in Banff: 'Last night, Elsie and I went to the Joni ballet, The Fiddle and the Drum at The Banff Centre, newly expanded to include another 4 songs, making it a full ballet. And we were part of the first audience to see it. T'was abso-tute-ly freakin' AWESOME! Jealous? To gild my goading lily, Joni and I were no more than 10 feet apart at intermission, outside the the theatre lobby, fouling the very same air with our nasty ciggy smoke. How cool is that???' Kate Stubblejumpers Cafi http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends Whoo-Hoo! A Joni encounter of the FIRST kind! Congratulations to you, Michael, and thanks for your excellent report. Sounds like it was quite a night. Hopefully I'll catch this show sometime in 2009. Bob NP: My Flexible Friends, "Tea For Two" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends Kate, it just can't get any cooler than that! I don't know what my reaction were to be if I was put in a similar situation with Joni smoking across the room from me as I smoked away on my cigarette pensively. I do know that if Joni was not the internationally famed artist she is I would not feel hesitant or intrusive to strike up a beautiful conversation. But, for me, it's impossible to intrude the privacy of folks prone to intrusion and so many questions from all around. Once and very coincidentally, a few years back, while in Monterrey, Mexico, attending a couple of concerts on my old stomping grounds, I just happened to be a guest at the same hotel Carlos Santana and his band were staying at. I met several members of the Santana and Mana Bands downstairs at the restaurant and at the lonely little bar with the blue TV screen light always on. Well, one morning, I was at the open-aired bar drinking myself a Mexican cup of coffee which I love and reading some Teresa of Avila when all of a sudden the hotel lobby filled up with band members, groupies, roadies and star-struck hotel employees and everyone that was in the bar were removed and in comes Carlos and I got confused at the whole ordeal. It was just him and I since he had the place cleared out and for at least 30 to 45 minutes he stood there leaning back against a back wall and I just stayed at my table reading and not reacting to his presence nor looking his way because I had nothing to say nor do I believe he would have had any substantial thing to say to me. It was a show and the lobby audience were all watching us and it was so awkward and I had to leave due to the discomfort. Carlos loves the limelight and attention and I abhor it. He had a guitar pick sent to me to my room by one of his body guards afterwards and I got even more confused because I couldn't understand a damn thing about it and a "rock star" guitar pick to me is just a plastic piece of crap that means nothing to me. But after all this said, Joni is truly our kindred spirit with so much truth and beauty to share that conversation with her would be as natural as a baby being born, but I could never intrude due to my principles of respecting other's privacy and also due to my shyness. Truly, Jeannie PS: Carlos Santana and the Santana Band are awesome performers by the way. - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Kate Johnson wrote: > From: Kate Johnson > Subject: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 12:27 PM > From my friend who lives in Banff: > > "Last night, Elsie and I went to the Joni ballet, The > Fiddle and the > Drum at The Banff Centre, newly expanded to include another > 4 songs, > making it a full ballet. And we were part of the first > audience to > see it. T'was abso-tute-ly freakin' AWESOME! > > Jealous? > > To gild my goading lily, Joni and I were no more than 10 > feet apart > at intermission, outside the the theatre lobby, fouling the > very same > air with our nasty ciggy smoke. > > How cool is that???" > > Kate > Stubblejumpers Cafi > http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends Thanks for your beautiful post describing a magical night, Michael! Jeannie - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Michael wrote: > From: Michael > Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends > To: monkeyshines@sasktel.net, "joni@smoe.org" , "Les Irvin" , "Mags" > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 7:00 PM > Here is my holiday report after an exhilirating night in > Banff, Alberta, > nestled among the Canadian Rockies. Last night, my partner > and I were one of > the lucky few to see the > new world premiere of the new extended ballet, FATD at the > Banff Center > theatre. > It turns out that the Alberta Ballet had been offered a > two-week residency to > flesh out their short ballet into > a full-length work. The gamble has paid off. > > I must admit I was somewhat sceptical at the outset, having > seen the dance on > DVD and thinking it was just OK. > But seeing this new version,live, with the beautiful > lighting and the full > depth and darkness of the stage, brings > a whole new dimension to the ballet, which is not easily > captured by a > camera. > > As Kate mentioned, the four new works are Shine, > Woodstock(T-Log version), The > Reoccurring Dream, and Ethiopia. > > The theatre is small and intimate; it seats about 650, and > all seats were full > - a chatty, enthusiastic boomer crowd. > The evening was prefaced by a welcome from a Banff Festival > spokesperson, with > warm thanks to sponsors > such as Chevron Oil(!)as well as a short, largely > inarticulate blurb from the > Alberta Minister of Culture. > > The new ballet looks like this : > > TFATD - a sort of prelude - now done on a black stage > without the curtain, > since the company faced huge dry-cleaning > bills from smeared body make-up in other theatres! > Sex Kills - a very strong opener > Passion Play - which revolves around a beautiful and > athletic male pas de > deux > The Three Great Stimulants - featuring a triad of soloists > Shine - a beautiful dance, which begins with the little > girl in white, who is > passed from the outstretched arms of one > male dancer to another. The costumes are beautiful - all > the dancers wear > translucent, ankle-length burnt saffron > skirts. Possibly the emotional high point of the evening. > Woodstock - which begins and ends with a female dancer > holding an earth ball > above her head, while boys in military > garb open with a brief war dance, while the other dancers > grind their hips in > an affirmation of life. Joni offers some of the lyrics to > the > to the song in the orb overhead. > Part 1 closes with FTR, where a triad of couples waltzes > through this romantic > and lovely interpretation of the T-log version > of the song. > Thunderous applause after each dance. > > At intermission, I went outside for some air, and there was > Joni surrounded by > friends, discretely to the side, laughing and puffing away. > People kept a polite distance; I suspect many did not even > know she was among > us. As the lights flashed for part 2, people began to file > back slowly to > their seats. > I seized a split-second moment of opportunity to introduce > myself to Joni, say > hello, and shake her small and gentle hand. She smiled and > we chatted briefly > about the new pieces. She has beautiful blue eyes. A far > too short, but happy > Joni moment for me, at long last. > > Part 2 > > The Reoccurring Dream - set around a comical old lady > watching TV with her cat > at center stage , as the dancers impersonate all the > different voices in the song - a very strong number. > Ethiopia - a dark moody piece where the dancers impersonate > animals under the > hot african sun. Another knockout performance. > Slouching Towards Bethlehem > TBOBW > IF I Had a Heart I'd Cry > IF > And BYT after the first curtain call. > > Much deserved wild applause and whoops and calls for the > dancers, who are all > beautiful, strong and athletic. They gave a wonderful > performance. > > After the show, guests were invited to stay for a half-hour > Q&A with the > artists, moderated by Jean Grand-Maitre. > He was accompanied by the lighting designer, a dancer, and > JM ! > > Offered below are some of the exchanges between Joni and > audience members, > although all participants on the panel spoke about > their particular perspectives on this project. > > How did the dancers react to having a non-dancer, Joni, > coach them in their > moves? They loved her support, energy, comments, > and the subtext she offered them to understand the songs. > As a nod and an > inside joke for her contributions, it turns out that > Grand-Maitre actually added one of Joni's personal > exercises into the > choreography - dancers rotating their hips with hands on > their kneecaps. > Joni recounted the story of her defective flat-scren TV as > a cornucopia of art > - ultimately providing the images for the Green Flag show. > Never one to shun controversy, she mentioned Bush, Hitler > and Stalin all in > the same sentence. She mentioned that the Episcapalian > church is the only progressive church left in America - > they have a female > bishop. > She spoke of her treatment by the music industry - how she > is a long-distance > runner, not the sprinter favoured by music executives. > Finally, she spoke of our planetary war - Ecology VS > Economy. Native tradition > says we are now in the 4th world, which will end in fire. > Our monotheistic and patriarchal religions are destroying > the planet. We have > to get ourselves back to the garden. > > I had a few questions for Grand-Maitre and Joni, which will > wait for another > day, since the curtain fell and the audience members left > the auditorium > feeling full, > stimulated and entertained. A memmorable evening was had by > all, I'm sure. > > I did not see any media present. The new show will be > re-premiered in Calgary > and Edmonton during the winter of 2009. > There are plans in the making for a world tour. See this > new show if you can. > It won't disappoint. > > Michael in Quebec, from Calgary > > > > > > > > > > > Kate wrote: > > Subject: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends > > From my friend who lives in Banff: > > 'Last night, Elsie and I went to the Joni ballet, The > Fiddle and the > Drum at The Banff Centre, newly expanded to include another > 4 songs, > making it a full ballet. And we were part of the first > audience to > see it. T'was abso-tute-ly freakin' AWESOME! > > Jealous? > > To gild my goading lily, Joni and I were no more than 10 > feet apart > at intermission, outside the the theatre lobby, fouling the > very same > air with our nasty ciggy smoke. > > How cool is that???' > > Kate > Stubblejumpers Cafi > http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page > _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends as I mentioned, my friends did go to the ballet. Joni was three rows ahead of them. I have to go numb now because it should have been me there with her. shite. oh well. Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Jeannie wrote: From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends To: monkeyshines@sasktel.net, "joni@smoe.org" , "Les Irvin" , "Mags" , "Michael" Received: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 9:27 PM Thanks for your beautiful post describing a magical night, Michael! Jeannie - --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Michael wrote: > From: Michael > Subject: Re: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends > To: monkeyshines@sasktel.net, "joni@smoe.org" , "Les Irvin" , "Mags" > Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 7:00 PM > Here is my holiday report after an exhilirating night in > Banff, Alberta, > nestled among the Canadian Rockies. Last night, my partner > and I were one of > the lucky few to see the > new world premiere of the new extended ballet, FATD at the > Banff Center > theatre. > It turns out that the Alberta Ballet had been offered a > two-week residency to > flesh out their short ballet into > a full-length work. The gamble has paid off. > > I must admit I was somewhat sceptical at the outset, having > seen the dance on > DVD and thinking it was just OK. > But seeing this new version,live, with the beautiful > lighting and the full > depth and darkness of the stage, brings > a whole new dimension to the ballet, which is not easily > captured by a > camera. > > As Kate mentioned, the four new works are Shine, > Woodstock(T-Log version), The > Reoccurring Dream, and Ethiopia. > > The theatre is small and intimate; it seats about 650, and > all seats were full > - a chatty, enthusiastic boomer crowd. > The evening was prefaced by a welcome from a Banff Festival > spokesperson, with > warm thanks to sponsors > such as Chevron Oil(!)as well as a short, largely > inarticulate blurb from the > Alberta Minister of Culture. > > The new ballet looks like this : > > TFATD - a sort of prelude - now done on a black stage > without the curtain, > since the company faced huge dry-cleaning > bills from smeared body make-up in other theatres! > Sex Kills - a very strong opener > Passion Play - which revolves around a beautiful and > athletic male pas de > deux > The Three Great Stimulants - featuring a triad of soloists > Shine - a beautiful dance, which begins with the little > girl in white, who is > passed from the outstretched arms of one > male dancer to another. The costumes are beautiful - all > the dancers wear > translucent, ankle-length burnt saffron > skirts. Possibly the emotional high point of the evening. > Woodstock - which begins and ends with a female dancer > holding an earth ball > above her head, while boys in military > garb open with a brief war dance, while the other dancers > grind their hips in > an affirmation of life. Joni offers some of the lyrics to > the > to the song in the orb overhead. > Part 1 closes with FTR, where a triad of couples waltzes > through this romantic > and lovely interpretation of the T-log version > of the song. > Thunderous applause after each dance. > > At intermission, I went outside for some air, and there was > Joni surrounded by > friends, discretely to the side, laughing and puffing away. > People kept a polite distance; I suspect many did not even > know she was among > us. As the lights flashed for part 2, people began to file > back slowly to > their seats. > I seized a split-second moment of opportunity to introduce > myself to Joni, say > hello, and shake her small and gentle hand. She smiled and > we chatted briefly > about the new pieces. She has beautiful blue eyes. A far > too short, but happy > Joni moment for me, at long last. > > Part 2 > > The Reoccurring Dream - set around a comical old lady > watching TV with her cat > at center stage , as the dancers impersonate all the > different voices in the song - a very strong number. > Ethiopia - a dark moody piece where the dancers impersonate > animals under the > hot african sun. Another knockout performance. > Slouching Towards Bethlehem > TBOBW > IF I Had a Heart I'd Cry > IF > And BYT after the first curtain call. > > Much deserved wild applause and whoops and calls for the > dancers, who are all > beautiful, strong and athletic. They gave a wonderful > performance. > > After the show, guests were invited to stay for a half-hour > Q&A with the > artists, moderated by Jean Grand-Maitre. > He was accompanied by the lighting designer, a dancer, and > JM ! > > Offered below are some of the exchanges between Joni and > audience members, > although all participants on the panel spoke about > their particular perspectives on this project. > > How did the dancers react to having a non-dancer, Joni, > coach them in their > moves? They loved her support, energy, comments, > and the subtext she offered them to understand the songs. > As a nod and an > inside joke for her contributions, it turns out that > Grand-Maitre actually added one of Joni's personal > exercises into the > choreography - dancers rotating their hips with hands on > their kneecaps. > Joni recounted the story of her defective flat-scren TV as > a cornucopia of art > - ultimately providing the images for the Green Flag show. > Never one to shun controversy, she mentioned Bush, Hitler > and Stalin all in > the same sentence. She mentioned that the Episcapalian > church is the only progressive church left in America - > they have a female > bishop. > She spoke of her treatment by the music industry - how she > is a long-distance > runner, not the sprinter favoured by music executives. > Finally, she spoke of our planetary war - Ecology VS > Economy. Native tradition > says we are now in the 4th world, which will end in fire. > Our monotheistic and patriarchal religions are destroying > the planet. We have > to get ourselves back to the garden. > > I had a few questions for Grand-Maitre and Joni, which will > wait for another > day, since the curtain fell and the audience members left > the auditorium > feeling full, > stimulated and entertained. A memmorable evening was had by > all, I'm sure. > > I did not see any media present. The new show will be > re-premiered in Calgary > and Edmonton during the winter of 2009. > There are plans in the making for a world tour. See this > new show if you can. > It won't disappoint. > > Michael in Quebec, from Calgary > > > > > > > > > > > Kate wrote: > > Subject: Fiddle and Drum plus 4, and Joni attends > > From my friend who lives in Banff: > > 'Last night, Elsie and I went to the Joni ballet, The > Fiddle and the > Drum at The Banff Centre, newly expanded to include another > 4 songs, > making it a full ballet. And we were part of the first > audience to > see it. T'was abso-tute-ly freakin' AWESOME! > > Jealous? > > To gild my goading lily, Joni and I were no more than 10 > feet apart > at intermission, outside the the theatre lobby, fouling the > very same > air with our nasty ciggy smoke. > > How cool is that???' > > Kate > Stubblejumpers Cafi > http://stubblejumperscafe.pnn.com/6853-the-front-page > _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #163 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe