From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #123 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 30 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 123 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Covers, Retro Edition #28 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: 10 artists who should stop making music [Susan E McNamara ] Re: 10 Artists Who Should Stop Making Music ["Randy Remote" ] Joni's Green Flag Song at Galway [Bob Muller ] Crete ["Phyliss Ward" ] Re: 10 Artists Who Should Stop Making Music ["Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Retro Edition #28 Just a few words on the retro covers. I've been so busy lately, I only recently got to listen to them. A big surprise for me was to see Margaret Roadknight in there. She is somewhat of a folk legend in this country. Something like Australia's answer to Joan Baez. Although she is a bit before my time, I didn't think she recorded any covers. Let alone a Joni song. She has always been a little on the grungy side but it's an adequate cover. I prefer Doug Ashdown's cover of Marcie though. Another fave is Peter Mulvey's cover of River. Very nice. Interesting to see that people cover the covers. More like Tom Rush's, Urge For Going and there is a cover of Judy Collins', BSN. What's with the Loaded Boxers? Bizarre. Loved the Gaffers', C&S. Very Sufjan Stevens. I also really liked June Tabor's, Fiddle and The Drum. This is live? I couldn't hear any audience noise. Thanks again, Bob, for allowing those of us who missed out on the first batches to catch up. Mark in Sydney NP Forest - Peter Gabriel featuring Hukwe Zawose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:09:31 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Starbucks In Trouble This is tenuous Joni content but it was just announced on tonight's news that Starbucks Australia will close 61 of its 84 Australian stores. There was no solid reason given but the company closed all of its stores today to give the bad news to its employees at Darling Harbour. They said they will concentrate its business on the stores left in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. I'm still not sure if Joni's album, Shine is sold through Starbucks in Australia but it is available through many other sources so, it should not effect sales. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:49:58 -0400 From: Susan E McNamara Subject: RE: 10 artists who should stop making music Or 1 writer who should stop making lists. (I f-ing hate lists, and I think they know people will read them if they put Joni or the stones or the who on them because they know they are still well loved). Bite me dude. sue ___________________ /___________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ http://www.jmdl.com/guitar http://www.cloudheights.blogspot.com "It's all a dream she has awake." - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: RE: 10 Artists Who Should Stop Making Music You're absolutely right in that. The book, overall, was a good read and an interesting interpretation of Joni's work. But, yes, the last chapter was not needed. It was supposed to be about C&S---the dissection of it, if you may and he throws all that in the last chapter seemingly just to get it out there. If you're writing a review on an album, talk about that album alone. I even object to some of his writing on the albums prior to C&S. Some of the album prior, I think, he just wanted to praise as well rather than add any connection between them and C&S. However, it seems like he thought the albums prior to C&S were in a way leading up to C&S but no need to review them when you're writing a book on one particular album. I'd also disagree on some aspects of Blue or FTR leading up to C&S....there may be similarities (of course, they're written by the same person) but I would object to certain connections made.... - -Mon - --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: I enjoyed the book, but I was puzzled by the last chapter or so when he basically used his praise of C&S (nothing wrong with that to be sure) as proof of why everything she did after that sucked. I didn't see any point in that part in the context of what the topic of the book was supposed to be. 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:11:41 -0400 From: Coleen Subject: Guardian interview with Randy Newman There's Joni content in yesterdays Guardian interview with Randy Newman, although not of the kind I would have wished: Does his lack of success bother him as much as his fans think? "No. Occasionally I'll get briefly angry at the veneration accorded some writers, who the generation decides to give a free ride." Such as? "Joni being worshipped is an odd thing for me. [Bob] Dylan knows he doesn't write like he did on those first two records. The tremendous praise that the last two have gotten, I'm not so sure [that would have happened] if they didn't have his name on it." Another surprising comment from the writer of the article was this: On the close-knit, overheated circuit of singer-songwriters in Los Angeles during the late 60s and early 70s, Newman was the outsider, the man who watched several of his peers - Joni Mitchell, Linda Ronstadt, Neil Young - reap millions, while his own career followed a more quixotic, cultish path. Excuse me? Linda Ronstadt? A peer?! That may be the most ridiculous thing I've read this year. (At least in the music category.) I was a huge fan of Randy's back in high school and was completely alone in my devotion. No one I knew seemed to get him. He lost me in later years with his movie theme songs, but hey, a guy's gotta make a living. The article makes much of the fact that he's comfortable with his level of success but I think there's a bit of jealousy lurking inside. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/jul/28/popandrock.usa?gusrc=arss&feed=worldnews Coleen np - It's Not - Aimee Mann ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:09:43 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: 10 Artists Who Should Stop Making Music Plus he disses "Who's Next", the best rock album ever made. No credibility. Guitar Quiz?...too easy RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:11:59 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Guardian interview with Randy Newman <<< I was a huge fan of Randy's back in high school and was completely alone in my devotion. No one I knew seemed to get him. He lost me in later years with his movie theme songs, but hey, a guy's gotta make a living. The article makes much of the fact that he's comfortable with his level of success but I think there's a bit of jealousy lurking inside. >>> I never did get Randy Newman. He's just so NOT my cup of tea. Regarding his Joni comments, sounds like sour grapes to me and for the life of me I can't figure out why since HE is the one with the Oscars. Of course the fact that he writes for kids movies has brought him more mainstream and I still don't like his stuff. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:38:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni's Green Flag Song at Galway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkAEn1HHSA This guy videotaped the exhibit and set it to Joni...kudos to him for including "Strong and Wrong"...and "Fiction"....this guy is a true fan. Bob NP: Joni, "Strong & Wrong" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:38:25 -0400 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: Crete Hi All, I've de-lurked to let you know that I'm fortunate enough to have booked a cruise this fall which stops in Crete, Greece for a day. If anyone has insight into how I might follow Joni's steps while there, it would be much appreciated. I have no idea what might remain from back in the day... Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:29:35 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: 10 Artists Who Should Stop Making Music From: "T Peckham" > > Erm, much as I've enjoyed the discussion about title copyright, I > must point > out that Nelson writes for a newspaper called "The Stranger" in > Seattle. > (Hence my comment that the Seattle-ites on the list might be > familiar with > his scribbling.) :-) > Terra Hi Terra, I can't say that I am familiar with the author of this bogus list (I'm ashamed to admit it but I haven't read his 33 1/3 book about 'Court and Spark') but the style of writing is in keeping with the publication known as 'The Stranger' which started as a free 'alternative newspaper'. However, it has evolved into a more mainstream affair. Some of you may have heard of Dan Savage. He writes a fairly randy sexual advice column and has published at least one book. He is now the editorial director of 'The Stranger'. 'The Stranger' still has a bit of an irreverant edge to it which is in keeping with the style of the 'list' in question. It is also still free. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #123 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe