From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #49 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 17 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 049 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Lennon's Playboy Interview ["Paul Ingles" ] Re:Those guys & Todd [PassScribe@aol.com] BYT [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Re: Carly Simon/"Girls Like Us"/guys like them ["Mark Scott" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 07:52:04 -0600 From: "Paul Ingles" Subject: Lennon's Playboy Interview I don't know if this is the whole Lennon/Playboy thing but it's a lot. A great interview. http://www.john-lennon.com/playboyinterviewwithjohnlennonandyokoono.htm You can also find the whole thing in book form. Might be on ebay or amazon... Paul Ingles Independent Producer www.paulingles.com Producer, The Emergence of Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:13:25 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:Those guys & Todd In a message dated 5/16/08 3:32:28 AM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: > Laura, for some reason, out of the blue and cumulus clouds posted some > links for Rundgren and, man, that guy still has it. I had never seen him perform > live or on camera. > He's gotten better with time and age and Taylor and Browne have nothing > over him. > Too bad I never really paid attention to him in the 70's because I thought > he was just another poker chip from the top 40 star-maker machinery. > I hope he's a kind and humble guy. I don't know..I just hope so. He's so > darn cute and super-talented but I won't ever get fooled again by any man. > Se acabo por fin, la tonteria de mierda de la mentira. > Hi, Jeannie, Just a quick note to say I've been a Todd fan for longer than I've been a Joni fan (got into him during his NAZZ days). I've talked to him during a ToddFest (also talked to the other members of his band, Utopia) and found them all very nice guys... but, then again, I've not dated or married them so don't know how they are/were with women. My son met Todd at the first Woodstock Anniversary festival (not the one where chaos broke loose with the rapes & fires, etc.) and he said he thought Todd was a great guy. Speaking of rock stars & their women: You know, I assume, that Todd had/has an arrangement where he lived/lives with two women at the same time... mother of his son and another woman/two separate but connected apartments? If not, email me off-list & I'll fill you in on more. Kenny B ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:19 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: BYT Greetings, Jorge. You have been given a worthy assignment! This is certainly Joni Mitchell's most widely known song in the US, Although most of her fans who listen deeply into her catalog feel it's not her most profound lyrical statement, it's popularity is undeniable by any measure. It has been covered many, many times by other artists, in many styles. You may get 'extra credit' if you can track down some examples. Joni Mitchell was never one to sell many 'singles', i.e. songs intended to be distributed on 45 RPM vinyl perhaps as a sales leader for an LP, or perhaps even released independently of an album. It is a statement on the ravaging of the planetary environment. Her recent work 'Shine' is in large part the evolution of that message. And monetary inflation! 'They charged all the people a dollar-and- half' just to see trees became a higher-priced ticket in later live renderings. I'm afraid to calculate what admission to Joni's 'tree museum' would cost today! It's a song that is so simple in its message and that appeals so broadly. The rain forest destruction is 'paved paradise' in essence. Our fall from Grace is 'paved paradise'. Our despoiling of the lands and seas and species gone forever, for greed, is paved paradise. And it's a bouncy tune. We might as well dance... Chuck Eisenhardt Arlington, MA, USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:29:07 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Carly Simon/"Girls Like Us"/guys like them - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Angelo" > The "court and spark" phase you refer to is almost irrational, and > the many > attempts by countless songwriters to describe and define "love" is > witness > to this initial near-irrationality. I once wrote a song by song mini-analysis of 'Court & Spark' using the theory that the record could have been titled 'Love and Madness'. It begins with 'love came to my door with a sleeping roll and a mad man's soul' and ends with the serious meditation on mental illness, 'Trouble Child' followed by its humorous flip-side, 'Twisted'. In between you have Joni pleading 'Help me' for the time 'when I get this crazy feeling', the Free Man in Paris who longs to escape from 'dreamers and telephone screamers', the declaration 'I told you when I met you I was crazy' accompanied by a list of the crazy things People do at their Parties, the craziness of being 'again and again in the Same Situation for so many years', the perhaps obsessive behaviour of waiting for somebody who 'said he'd be over 3 hours ago', the extremes we are capable of from being 'a kind person' to ' a cold person', from 'a brute' to 'an angel', how love drives the singer to not 'count on nothing' and 'just let things slide' while she's 'always runnin' behind the time' and a song about a crazy hooker who once hooked up with a guy and they 'had a little money' but the nutjob 'bought a '57 Biscayne', 'put it in a ditch' and 'drunk up all the rest'. Anyway my contention was (and still is) that every song on C&S is either about love or insanity or both. My apologies to those who have probably seen me write this in one form or another on more than one occasion before. > "Stay in Touch" (TTT) is written as far as I can tell about that > initial > "best behavior" phase of being reunited with her daughter, and is > one of the > best songs I can think of that addresses this initial > near-infatuation state > from an experienced perspective: Going purely from memory and not pretending to be any kind of 'Joni expert', I believe the songs for 'Taming the Tiger' were actually written before Joni & Kilauren reunited. 'Stay In Touch' was more about Donald Freed who was from Saskatoon and chose to remain there. So there was kind of a long-distance romance going on for awhile that also inspired 'Love Puts on a New Face' with its last verse that begins 'He wrote: I wish you were with me here, the leaves are electric'. Anyway, the feelings that started when Joni met Donald are, I believe, what prompted her to write 'we should stay in touch.' But I also seem to remember that in an interview that closely followed the reunion and the release of TTT, Joni did say that the feelings she wrote about in 'Stay In Touch' were very much like what she was experiencing with Kilauren. I'm sounding too didactic for my own liking so I'm going to shut up now. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 00:50:40 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: FW: Message from website re: BYT: Correction - - I'd like to clarify one issue regarding species extinctions and correct the figure given for explosive human population growth. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Mark Angelo wrote in part re: "Big Yellow Taxi": "It foretold of disappearing species (I have read anywhere from 47-50 per day over the past several decades to a current high number of roughly 200 per day extinct because of Western paradigm "progress". We have succeeded in recreating virtual everythings, and in the process to distance ourself from nature have eliminated much of the reality." The most current numbers are from today's story from Common Dreams: An Epidemic of Extinictions: Decimation of Life on Earth in which a report by the WWF states that humanity's impact on other species) has caused them to be decimated by nearly one third in the 35 years up until 2005. "Land species have declined by 25 per cent, marine life by 28 per cent, and freshwater species by 29 per cent." The last time such a catastrophic reduction occurred on the planet was the Cretacous-Tertiary extinction event associated with the extinction of the dinosaurs, some *65 million years ago.* "...The planet is at "red alert" and if truth be told, "we cover you (the Earth) like a plague". Any species that has grown to such unsustainable numbers and explodes exponentially to 6.6 million, adding 50 million a day, must like yeast in a petri dish, outstrip finite resources to consume and will implode on itself catastrophically. With Homo sapiens, this can be traced directly back to the introduction of cheap, non-renewable fossil fuels." That 6.6 million is an obvious typo and it should read* 6.6 billion**.* In regards to the number of humans added to the planet every day, I had read recently 50 million which I thought rather large, however that too needs corrected, as it appears to be inflated quite a bit! - -Extracted from "A World Without Us" by Alan Weisman: "Worldwide, every four days human population rises by *1 million.*** Since we can't really grasp such numbers, they'll wax out of control until they crash, as has happened to every other species that got too big for this box". I checked Wikipedia which states approximately 75 million humans are added every year which more or less is congruent with the 1 million figure every four days: 75 million / 365 days = approximately 205,479 added per day which is mind-boggling nonetheless! "When it comes to mathematics I have static in the attic" Mark in Florida. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:08:19 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: annie's husband Henry Diltz gave an amazing slide show tonight. Photos & stories I'd never seen/heard. If you hear of him coming to a town near you, especially with a slide show, GO! What an amazing life he's had! Oh, about Annie's husband- he mentioned his partner Gary (Burden) more times than not on his adventures. I think the most poignant photo was the sweet one of Paul & Linda Mc that made Life Magazine. He hung out with Paul a lot. Kate ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #49 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe