From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #40 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 8 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 040 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Clouds artwork [Michael Flaherty ] Re: Clouds artwork [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Joni's most philosophical song [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Joni's most philosophical song ["Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Clouds artwork From: David Eoll >>>I'll probably be keeping my records for good at this point, even though I don't even currently have a working turntable. I have a hard time letting go of things anyway, and the records I'm particularly attached to. I have a nice turntable, but if it goes out, well, I'll decide what to do then. When I was in grad school I absolutely had to get rid of a large number of records, but I doubt I would have played any of them in all of these years anyway--I very rarely play the ones I kept. Of course, the Joni collection (everything through CMiRS) stayed, and I still look at them from time to time. I agree with David regarding gate-fold sleeves and sides. I use to love the feel of a new record as I opened it, and cds simply are not the same. Still ... for convenience and, IMO, sound, you can't beat cds. At least (unlike mp3s, which also have inferior sound) you still get artwork. I wish more cds would use the mini lp format. If Joni's albums were re-released with on remastered cds with exact reproductions of the original albums, I'd be tempted to re-buy the lot, or at least through WTRF. Michael Flaherty ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Clouds artwork See, I'm jealous of all you folks who had the opportunity to go to the record store to get the next Joni Mitchell album to come out. I can't be nostalgic for records as those were never part of my days. However, I have started a record collection (so far I have very few, only a handful or two) which I intend to add to. The idea of a record and everything that pertains to it appeals to me greatly. Plus, when you do see that cover on a big record as opposed to a little cd case, it really blows you away. I remember when my sister bought me Hejira on record as a gift a while ago. I just stared it for a while--the cover, the insert even though I own it on cd and have seen the cover/insert thousands of times by now. Someday...I hope to be able to play those records....I have to find a record player... -M David Eoll wrote: And I agree with Terra about records vs. CDs. I'm nostalgic for them myself, and prefer curling up with a good old-fashioned gatefold album cover to look at while spinning the vinyl. I don't even mind having to get up to flip it over. I like the punctuation between the two (or four or six) sides. I'll probably be keeping my records for good at this point, even though I don't even currently have a working turntable. I have a hard time letting go of things anyway, and the records I'm particularly attached to. The trouble with getting a replacement turntable is I just can't see spending the money on a new one. There doesn't seem to be much of a market for a low-end turntable these days. My records are not numerous enough (about 400 or so) or high enough quality to warrent getting more than an el Cheapo. People that still buy turntables are pretty much exlusively audiophiles who are going to go for the high-end equipment. Maybe I can pick up a used one cheap on eBay. Peace, David - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni's most philosophical song Well, reading through everyone's exploding lines (not to mention the interpretations of some of them) got me thinking. Joni has written some songs that tend to reflect on life. What would you say is her most philosophical song? -M, who loves philosophy, both western and eastern - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:16:48 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Joni's most philosophical song Wow, there are so many of them, especially in her later works which are my favorites. As Joni said circa DED, she had "exorcised her compulsion to consider 'what is love, where is love - the anatomy of the crime' which allowed her to contemplate more on the external and vocalize hard--to-digest truths about life itself and the realities she witnessed all about her: "Oh radiant happiness It was all so light and easy Till I started analyzing And I brought on my old ways A thunderhead of judgment was Gathering in my gaze And it made most people nervous They just didn't want to know What I was seeing in the refuge of the roads" (Hejira) All of this off the top of my head, I'd say that two of her most philosophical songs would be her brilliant adaptations of William Yeat's "The Second Coming" - "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" (NRH) and Rudyard Kipling's "If" (Shine). Sweet Bird is philosophical about life and entire paradigms and civilizations and their apparent futility from a galactic perspective and really approaches nihilism IMO and can be very humbling and alienating if you let yourself resonate with it. There are soooooooooo many, but I'll go with "Come In From The Cold" (NRH) for now, and what to me are her "exploding lines" - usually philosophical in nature. When I thought life had some meaning Then I thought I had some choice (I was running blind) And I made some value judgments In a self-important voice (I was outa line) But then absurdity came over me And I longed to lose control (into no mind) Oh all I ever wanted Was just to come in from the cold On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Well, reading through everyone's exploding lines (not to mention the > interpretations of some of them) got me thinking. Joni has written some > songs that tend to reflect on life. What would you say is her most > philosophical song? > -M, who loves philosophy, both western and eastern ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #40 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe