From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #36 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 4 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 036 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The exploding line thread ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Simple sorrow [Bruce Eggleston ] RE: The exploding line thread ["hell" ] Re: Simple Sorrow [AMARY559@aol.com] Girls Lke Us - "Rock 'n' role Models" [AMARY559@aol.com] Simple Sorrow/FTR Songbook [Chuck Eisenhardt ] FTR Songbook [Chuck Eisenhardt ] joni and dylan [Michel BYRNE ] Re: The exploding line thread [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: The exploding line thread ["Jerry Notaro" ] RE: The exploding line thread ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: The exploding line thread ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: The exploding line thread [Dflahm@aol.com] RE: The exploding line thread ["Richard Flynn" ] sjc now, joni and dylan and my brother & me [Patti Parlette ] RE: The exploding line thread [Jeannie ] Re: The exploding line thread ["Mark Scott" ] RE: The exploding line thread [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Fwd: Rickie Europe Tour Update and Show Dates Request [Jeannie ] RE: The exploding line thread [Em ] Re: The exploding line thread [Dave Blackburn ] Re: The exploding line thread ["Mark Scott" ] Re: The exploding line thread ["Mark Scott" ] JoniQuiz Pt.11 : Clouds (pretty easy) [Rian Afriadi ] Mary Grace - remembering ["Vince Lavieri" ] Web question ["Les Irvin" ] Re: The exploding line thread [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Mary Grace - remembering [Michael Paz ] re: The Exploding Line Thread [c Karma ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 01:12:23 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The exploding line thread - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Blackburn" To: Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: The exploding line thread >> How about we share our personal favorite exploding lines? > Great idea for a thread, Dave! 'She has brought them to her senses' 'Gilded galleons spilled across the ocean floor' 'And they tell him, "take your time It won't be long now Til you drag your feet to slow the circles down' 'Part of you pours out of me In these lines from time to time' 'I'm gonna blow this damn candle out I don't want nobody comin over to my table I got nothing to talk to anybody about' 'Only a dark cocoon before I get my gorgeous wings and fly away' '"All the guilty people" he said, "they've all seen the stain On their daily bread, on their Christian names"' 'And you could complete me I'd complete you' 'Cause I've seen some hard, hot blazes Come down to smoke and ash' 'Give me some time, I feel like I'm losing mine Out here on this horizon line With the earth spinning and the sky forever rushing' 'Oh you tireless watcher, what have I done to you? That you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true' 'Once in awhile in a big blue moon there comes a night like this Like some surrealist invented this Fourth of July night ride home' 'Good or bad, they think they know As if thinking makes things so!' '"I'm a burning hearth" he said "people see the smoke But no-one comes to warm themselves, sloughing off a coat And all my little landscapes, all my yellow afternoons Stack up around this vacancy like dirty cups and spoons No mercy, sweet Jesus, no mercy from turbulent indigo!"' 'They're gonna slam free choice behind us' 'The wise are mourning and the fools are joking Oh what does it matter? The wash needs ironing and the fire needs stoking' 'One day I'm gonna die here too and they'll plant me in the dirt Like some lame bulb that never blooms come any spring, not any spring' 'Darling you can't slay these beasts of prey Some bad dreams even love can't erase' 'She dodges the light like Blanche Dubois' 'It seems we all live so close to that line And so far from satisfaction' 'Dressed in stolen clothes she stands cast-iron and frail With her impossibly gentle hands and her blood-red finger nails' 'There is danger and education in living out such a reckless lifestyle' 'My gentle relations have names they must call me For loving the freedom of all flying things' 'A ghost of aviation she was swallowed by the sky Or by the sea, like me, she had a dream to fly' 'I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitudes And looking down on everything I crashed into his arms' 'But now it's just another show You leave 'em laughing when you go And if you care don't let them know' 'It's a rich exchange it seems to me It's a warm arrangement' Oh God, there are just too many! And here I sit typing them when I should be going to bed. A dozen more will occur to me before morning. But for now, goodnight all. 'And you know there may be more....' Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 02:41:00 -0600 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: Simple sorrow Dear Jerry, You moved me with this explanation, it is poetry itself. Bonneville Bruce > Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 16:21:32 -0400 > From: Jerry Notaro > Subject: Re: Simple sorrow > > Makes the lines much more lyrical and poetic. There is the double s > sound, > like smooth and silky. Simple sorrow is much more descriptive. It > reduces > the size of an abstract concept, and then localizes to the guitar > and knee, > like honey pouring from the heart into the heart of music. The > imagery is > pure genius, let alone listening to the sound the words and then > music make. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 20:50:24 +1200 From: "hell" Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Dave wrote: > How about we share our personal favorite exploding lines? This thread pops up pretty regularly, and the first set of lyrics (apart from the ones you already mentioned) that comes to my mind is usually: He wrote, "I wish you were with me here The leaves are electric They burn on the river bank Countless, heatless flames!" I said, "Well send me some pictures then And I'll paint pyrotechnic Explosions of your autumn Till we meet again Hell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:13:39 EDT From: AMARY559@aol.com Subject: Re: Simple Sorrow What a song! - Referring to another thread: this is a killer song, never mind a killer line. From many years ago I can still recall the pride in my brother's voice as he told me that in his music appreciation class the whole of image of the "golden egg" was the basis of one of his lessons. My take on the "simple" is that it is used in the sense that the songs were untainted, pure, honest and intimate This is in contrast to the more contrived affectations that are required to hit a mass market. I think she is saying to JT that he is in danger of selling his soul to the devil called commercialism - something which of course Joni is acutely aware of in her own work (Real Good for Free, etc). Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:32:01 EDT From: AMARY559@aol.com Subject: Girls Lke Us - "Rock 'n' role Models" Hi Not sure I seen anyone else post this but it made me laugh out loud, which was perhaps not appropriate at 7.30 in the morning with most other commuters on the train half asleep. This is a review from the Metro, one of those free low-brow rags we commuters get over here in the UK to help relieve the tedium of the tracks. It normally takes me about 2 mins to scan through picking out the news from the gossip and titbits. On this morning, however, I was roused from my normal slouch and was suddenly bolt upright looking a vision with blonde hair, gleaming smile and legs that went on forever holding a guitar - guess who? Here is the very insightful review form someone who, if he is not a member of the JMDL, ought to be made an honorary member: "Putting together a playlist to soundtrack reading this book told its own story. The subtitle is 'Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon And The Journey Of A Generation' but that for every track of King's or Simon's that made the list, Mitchell (pictured) demanded five. She is the towering timeless talent of this unlikely trinity and the fact that journalist Sheila Wella's readably gossipy hagiography doesn't grasp that point rather undermines her credibility. Having said that, Weller skilfully weaves together the disparate lives of these three, very different, women into a colourful portrait of how the bedsit singer/songwriter princess of the early 1790s became rock royalty and feminine role models, a leap that saw everyone from James Taylor and Mick Jagger to Warren Beatty and Jack Nicholson leaping between their songsheets. Although not, sadly, all at the same time. Poised precariously between celebrity tittle-tattle and a genuine stab at social commentary, Girls Like Us, emerges as a literate soap opera, the naval-gazing heroines' tangled private lives winning the day over the deeper meaning of their musical legacy. But read with their albums Tapestry, Blue and Anticipation (not No Secrets (?)) on a loop and your mucisal Tardis (do you get Dr Who in the US? If not, think Time Machine) will have landed you right in the patchouli heart of 1971". Author - Keith Watson Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:50:01 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Simple Sorrow/FTR Songbook > Subject: Simple Sorrow/FTR Songbook > > For academic purposes only, and with apologies to Crazy Crow Music, > I submit the marker-pen > illustration of FTR from the FTR song folio. The FTR book is > really interesting in that it has > accompanying illustrations, done in this medium, for most of the > songs. Also, delicious studio photos > (Seiff?) that are my favorites ever. > > This book is out of print still, as far as I know. If you ever see > one grab it! > > I could post the rest of the artwork if there's interest, and not > a lot of concern about tromping on > reproduction rights. > > Anyway, this might well be JT.... > > ChuckE > > > o?< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:36:50 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: FTR Songbook as I write this there is an FTR songbook for sale at Alibris.com (a used bookseller bureau) for $87.50.... ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:02:34 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: joni and dylan To be fair, guys, my memory of Joni's reference to Dylan falling asleep during C&S (in the 1979 Rolling Stone interview i think) was that she took it in good humour, as just Bob D being Bob D, although also suggesting that as a woman she could never be taken as seriously in the industry as a man (eg Bob D)would be. In terms of his approval, she also used to cite him as loving Sex Kills. Also, I think the bond with Dancing Clown was that Bob too had used racehorse names in a song (at least, I THINK i've not made that up). CC is chock-a-block with them. And as to the guest appearances, i got the impression that's because these guys happened to be recording in the same studois round about the same time (but i could be wrong on that one again). And while i'm at it ( :)...!), can i just stick up for Re-occurring Dream? I think it's a great choral number, an experimental multi-voiced collage that obviously cant be compared to more traditional song-formats. I wish she'd redone that one on Travelogue with full choir, with or without the recorded ad clips.... That's all. Cheers! _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:20:06 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." DAVID LAHM **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: The exploding line thread "Some get the gravy, some get the gristle." Brilliant. The gr is almost always angry sounding. Jerry Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." DAVID > LAHM > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:10:34 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Isn't it "Kisses light bright flags hung on holidays"? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dflahm@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:20 AM To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." DAVID LAHM **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:28:54 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Sorry for my typo. I meant " Kisses _like_ bright flags hung on holidays." - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Richard Flynn Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:11 PM To: Dflahm@aol.com; beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Isn't it "Kisses light bright flags hung on holidays"? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dflahm@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:20 AM To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." DAVID LAHM **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:08:44 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Could be; "flags/hung" is a little difficult to sing clearly, to not lose the "h" in "hung." I've been wrong before! DL **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:49:53 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Both the lp jacket and http://jonimitchell.com/musician/song.cfm?id=InFranceTheyKissOnMainStreet confirm "Kisses like bright flags hung on holidays." _____ From: Dflahm@aol.com [mailto:Dflahm@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:09 PM To: rflynn@frontiernet.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Could be; "flags/hung" is a little difficult to sing clearly, to not lose the "h" in "hung." I've been wrong before! DL _____ Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:50:42 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc now, joni and dylan and my brother & me LONG AND PERSONAL (Don't say I didn't warn ya!) ; ) Oddmund, I love your emotional honesty and sharing here: "I just got some second thoughts on what I recently sent. I know that my brother do care of my opnions. For many years I thought he didn't, but than after like 25 years I finnaly understood he did. I also understood theat he was no Superman, but he was also, like me vulnerable, and had feelings and could get hurt. I have this little-brother syndrome - and that is something I've been working on for years. He does influence me a lot, mostly in a positve manner, and sometimes wish that it would be rewarded in the other way around. That he would start to ask me of advice and listen more to me. And I sometimes get hurt when he isn't. But all in all we get along very well. And I've learnt to accept our differences, and to show genreiouty and support on his behalf, instead of being envious for he in someway being more succesfull than me. But I'm sure I've had a lot more issuses in this realtion - than he has... So there..." **** Applause, applause, little brother! What a sweet, sweet boy -- not strange at all. It must be hard to live in an older sibling's shadow. We all come from such different sets of circumstance. As the oldest of four, and the only girl (sometimes treated like a mooOOOOooovie queen), I never had such problems, but I have seen this "little brother syndrome" with my own sons. In the spirit of "Love is a story told", let me share one. About 5 years ago my youngest, Michael from Mountains (MfM), confided in me that he thought that Chris "didn't really like him". He said he didn't even know if he should "go to Yankee stadium with him." I told him that of *course* his brother loved him, and that he (Chris) is just a little different. Chris is a jokester about everything and never shows that anything bothers him. (Example: When he was 4 I took him to see ET. When ET was dying, we were both wiping away tears, and I leaned over to say: "This is so SAD, isn't it?" Chris quickly and fiercely wiped away his tears and stuck out his chin and defiantly said: "No, it's not!") You got me thinking about how it must have been for poor MfM growing up (just so you know, they are 5 3/4 years apart), being dragged around to his big brother's baseball and damned hockey games all over New England, and then having the same teachers. (One teacher ask MfM if he was Chris's brother and MfM nodded, and the teacher said: "I'll try not to hold it against you." LOL...MfM like THAT one! Usually it was the reverse.) Catherine, I'm remembering how you once shared that Matt was calling you at work all the time because Sara was trying to kill him or was eating all the food or something....LOL! Chris was the home run king of Mansfield. He grew up to be 6'5" (he was breastfed, LOL!) and MfM is 6' (he was, too.) When MfM was a junior in h.s., he decided to drop out of baseball. I was shocked and blurted out: "You can't do that! It's a family tradition!" and MfM quickly shot back: "Why? Because *Chris* did it?" (Way to be YOU, Mike! Be like Mike!) They both had beautiful eyelashes when they were little, and one day an elderly lady in the grocery store peered down at MfM in the cart (he was about 3) and said: "My, what beautiful eyelashes you have!" Chris tugged on her sleeve and started batting his eyes and said: "*I* have the, too!" (So it goes both ways, this sibling rivalry.) The lady and I cracked up laughing. We have all been here before! Like you have, Oddmund, I'm happy to say that I think they have overcome most of this stuff. With age comes wisdom. Now they do all kinds of stuff together, when good fortune allows (they are 1,000 miles apart, geographically). They go to Fenway and Yankee Stadium (C is his Sox jersey, M in his Yankee pinstripes) and visit each other's homes. LOL...I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they talk about me. Once at dinner I said something crazy (Who, me? Do YOU think I was crazy?) and MfM said: "Chris, when Mom retires, I'm sending her out to live with YOU!" (LOL...he'll get him back for all the childhood stuff!) The cherry on the top was at Chris's wedding, when MfM gave the toast. It was so beautiful and touching, and totally from the heart. (He was raised on Joni-ery, remember!) He talked about when they were little, how C used to beat him up and that his Mom thought she should get him a bodyguard; how Mom used to measure them every few months and pencil a line and date on the climbing ivy for the bathroom walllpaper. MfM said he used to get out the ruler and measure and check the dates and do the math to see if he were as tall as C at whatever age. (All those chalk marks in a rainstorm are still there, which is why I can't bring myself to remove the wallpaper!) Then he got serious and said: "But I finally learned to stop trying to live up to Chris, and to be who I am. I learned to be myself. And now Chris is my best friend." There was not a dry eye in the house, and my toughest, never-show-emotion brother asked (wiping away tears himself): "Wow. Did he write that HIMSELF?" Joni never had to put up with any of that. But Carly did, and even wrote and sang about it. ("She's my older sister.") I'm reading a lot about that in Girls Like Us. Yes, I'm reading the WHOLE thing -- and loving it! There are a few mistakes, of course, but what in life is perfect? Yes, once again Joni touches on universal themes, deeply touching our emotions, so I just wanna to stop, and thank you Joni, I just wanna stop, and thank you Joni! (JT TIC) Here's to brotherly -- and all kinds -- of love! Peace, Love, and Understanding, MoM P.S. Quelle synchronicity! My youngest brother just called to say he's coming to visit me in June. He lives in Utah and has never been to my house (I've lived here since 1986). I'll have to beat him up when he comes....LOL! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:47:29 -0500 From: mia _ Subject: re: Joni Covers, Centennial addition Bob, thanks for sharing Volume "100" with us. I'm really digging "Love is Like a Big Brass Band." I've never heard the melody to thi one before. I'm surprised the singer, Pamela Luccarelli, was able to get hold of it. Were there others during the '60's who covered it? Mia _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ messenger_052008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Listen to, visualize, and feel these words: In the church they light the candles And the wax rolls down like tears There is the hope and the hopelessness I have witnessed all of these years Beautiful... Thinking, I get that knot in my throat, and my tears they begin to roll down my face like wax slowly dripping down a lit candle in a beautiful Spanish cathedral and all you hear is the silence and feel His loving presence all around. I think of these words every time I go into an old, ornate, and splendidly built, by the Native Americans, along with the Spanish Friars, Mission. We have several down here in San Antonio and the feel in these Missions is surreal and Joni lyrics always shine their little lights with my little lights and that's when the healing and teardrops begin. Jeannie ~nj~ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 13:20:07 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The exploding line thread - ----- Original Message ----- From: "hell" To: "Dave Blackburn" ; > This thread pops up pretty regularly, and the first set of lyrics > (apart > from the ones you already mentioned) that comes to my mind is > usually: > > He wrote, "I wish you were with me here > The leaves are electric > They burn on the river bank > Countless, heatless flames!" > I said, "Well send me some pictures then > And I'll paint pyrotechnic > Explosions of your autumn > Till we meet again > Hell! How could I forget this one? One of my favorites too. Such beautiful imagery there so perfectly expressed. I didn't even touch on 'For the Roses' or 'Wild Things Run Fast' or 'Clouds': 'Cold blue steel and sweet fire Fall into Lady Release "Come with me, I know the way", she said "It's down, down, down a dark ladder...."' 'While the song that he sang her to soothe her to sleep Runs all through her circuits like a heart beat' 'You imitate the best and the rest you memorize You know the times you impress me the most Are the times when you don't try When you don't even try' 'Condemned to wires and hammers, strike every chord that you feel That broken trees and elephant ivories conceal' 'Sometime voices in the night will call me back again Back along the pathway of a troubled mind When forest tries to block the light that keeps a traveller sane I'll challenge them with flashes of a brighter time' 'People don't know how to love, they taste it and toss it Turn it off and on like a bathtub faucet' Mark in grey, wet Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: RE: The exploding line thread Wow, where to start? Joni has so many good lyrics but here's a few just from the top of my head: "I wish I had a river, I could skate away on." "I am on a lonely road and I am traveling." "You know it never has been easy." "Sweet Bird" in its entirety.... "Banquet" in its entirety... "He makes friends easy, he's not like me." "We love our lovin' but not like we love our freedom." "Nothing lasts for long." Man, there are just so many. I could sit here on the computer probably all day typing good lines away...but I won't. -M - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:26:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Fwd: Rickie Europe Tour Update and Show Dates Request Hi, again :) I just wanted to forward this e-mail from rickieleejones.com I received earlier What's really cool about this is that Rickie Lee wrote the letter out to us herself and that's why I'm forwarding it. She's a very sweet, simple and beautiful chick from coolsville who makes everybody feel like family and she doesn't sweat out the little shit in life...she bleeds big time, man, for all of mankind, like Jesus did and he still bleeds through Joni and me and many others because truth and justice and compassion run through our blood like holy wine and no one is gonna knock us down as we sip the milk from the real Madonna as we keep truckin' down here in this valley of tears. Jeannie PS: To all Rickie Lee lovers like Mark in Seattle or whomever, why don't y'all check this contest out. Isn't it cool? And she probably just thought about it as she was writing her e-mail. She's always falling up, no matter what! NPIMH: "Flying Cowgirls" - --- newsletter@rickieleejones.com wrote: > To: dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com > Subject: Rickie Europe Tour Update and Show Dates > Request > Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:20:43 -0600 > From: newsletter@rickieleejones.com > > Hi, > > I wanted to let everyone know why the European tour > scheduled for > this April was canceled. > > My tour manager, David Tibet and I had discussed the > European tour > for six months, then I began planning working with > his 'people' in > January. It was David's tour, so his guy was to take > care of all the > paperwork. He has a fellow who arranges his > tours..... one week before > we were to leave, Joey, the bass player, discovered > he must get his > own German visa. He went by himself to take care of > it, and the > Germans told him he would not be allowed to enter at > all. We were very > sad. David seemed devastated. > > It was not a personality issue between David Tibet > and myself, on the > contrary, nor did I want to cancel the tour, except > for my sense that > the paperwork was an indication of other potential > problems that could > manifest on my stage. It was enough work to do the > concept of the tour > without problems like these. The paperwork was not > managed, and we > suffered financial and emotional loss, though David > did his best to > offset these. > > I have had this happen before, when, in 1996, my own > manager (or > agent) did not obtain the visa for my South African > drummer, I had to > cancel the rest of the tour when he was detained in > Brussels. In fact, > every tour to Europe for the past 10 years has been > a disaster. I hope > to continue working with David Tibet, whom I admire > greatly. > > On a different subject, I'm looking for more > information on a few > shows that I played in 1979: > > 1. The date that I performed at the Village Gate in > 1979? How many > shows were there? > > 2. Do you know when I played at Carnegie Hall? > > 3. Do you know the date of the Los Angeles shows in > August 1979? > > We will send you a free CD for the first correct > information, (Let us > know how we can confirm the information, please) and > lots of thanks! > > Rickie Lee Jones ~nj~ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Centennial addition None that I'm aware of. This recording in a recent one. There were a couple of recordings in the 60's of songs that Joni never released: Born To Take The Highway by the Foggy Dew-O Eastern Rain by Fairport Convention Dr. Junk by The Ian Campbell Group These are all wonderful songs, it proves just one more way the depth of Joni's talent that she discarded so many great tunes, better than the best of most of the competition. Big Yellow Taxi has a whole CD of these treats coming up, so stay tuned and share that good news when it comes. Glad you're digging it, Mia - these early songs fascinate me. Bob NP: Radiohead, "Black Star" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: The exploding line thread so what is an exploding line? is it a line that just SLAYS you? a line so exquisite in the way its written AND the way its delivered (vocally as well as musically) that it just makes you go "wow"!??? I'm not familiar with most of the ones that have been mentioned so far, Jerry's being the exception. :) Em - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > Sorry for my typo. I meant " Kisses _like_ bright flags hung on > holidays." > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Richard > Flynn > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:11 PM > To: Dflahm@aol.com; beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: The exploding line thread > > Isn't it "Kisses light bright flags hung on holidays"? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Dflahm@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:20 AM > To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: The exploding line thread > > Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." > DAVID > LAHM > > I have a Sportster ON PURPOSE. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:25:18 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: The exploding line thread Well what I meant by it, for some reason assuming that it would translate, was a line that is so compressed and succinct that it just bursts open in your mind, like a portal into a brilliant new dimension; or maybe like biting into a lychee fruit! I realize this is a standard poetic skill and common stuff if you are reading T.S Eliot or Shakespear but it seems all too rare in the world of popular music, which is essentially the field Joni worked in. I just marvel at the apparent ease with which she tosses off such brilliant lines. So that's what I meant by "exploding line" perhaps being too succinct myself, without the meaning translating as intended. Dave "dusts the table with his shirt and waves another day goodbye" On May 3, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Em wrote: > so what is an exploding line? is it a line that just SLAYS you? a line > so exquisite in the way its written AND the way its delivered (vocally > as well as musically) that it just makes you go "wow"!??? > I'm not familiar with most of the ones that have been mentioned so > far, > Jerry's being the exception. > :) > Em > > --- Richard Flynn wrote: > >> Sorry for my typo. I meant " Kisses _like_ bright flags hung on >> holidays." >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >> Richard >> Flynn >> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 12:11 PM >> To: Dflahm@aol.com; beatntrack@sbcglobal.net >> Cc: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: RE: The exploding line thread >> >> Isn't it "Kisses light bright flags hung on holidays"? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of >> Dflahm@aol.com >> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:20 AM >> To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net >> Cc: joni@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: The exploding line thread >> >> Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." >> DAVID >> LAHM >> >> > > I have a Sportster ON PURPOSE. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 09:46:05 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The exploding line thread I have always heard 'Kisses like bright flags hung on holidays' Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: RE: The exploding line thread > Isn't it "Kisses light bright flags hung on holidays"? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Dflahm@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:20 AM > To: beatntrack@sbcglobal.net > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: The exploding line thread > > Among many, I submit "Kisses like bright flags on a holiday." > DAVID > LAHM > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 14:28:07 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The exploding line thread - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "'Richard Flynn'" ; ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:54 AM Subject: RE: The exploding line thread > so what is an exploding line? is it a line that just SLAYS you? a > line > so exquisite in the way its written AND the way its delivered > (vocally > as well as musically) that it just makes you go "wow"!??? > I'm not familiar with most of the ones that have been mentioned so > far, > Jerry's being the exception. > :) > Em Hi Em, For me it's either that the line (or lines) is so exquisitely crafted that it makes me go 'Wow! How does she do that?' Or it just hits me on the gut level and connects so directly to something in my life or my own thoughts that it becomes personally profound to me. It flashes out there, it won't be ignored. It explodes in my my brain and then brands itself on my consciouness. Joni's words have done this more than any other songwriter and some of those words have been in my head for more than 30 years. 'Heaven knows I loved you 30 years ago....' - - 'Two Grey Rooms' - That whole song is one for me. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: JoniQuiz Pt.11 : Clouds (pretty easy) I;ve heard this Clouds from all sides now From up and down And still somehow... I have to prove Rian that I know this album so well. So let the game begin! (gooooong!) 1. Where can you find this phrase : star-dappled green ? a. That Song About Midway b. The Gallery c. I Dont Know Where I Stand d. Tin Angel 2. True or False : This album won Best Traditional Pop Album on Grammy. 3. Complete this: I think I understand ..... is like a wilderland Stepping stones or sinking sand a. Love b. Fear c. Hope d. This 4. Arrange this! (1) Zen (2) Potions (3) Mysterious devotions (4) Tarot cards (5) Zodiac (6) Religion 5. What was the color of the turtleneck that Joni wore on the front cover? a. Blue b. Brown c. Gray d. Black 6. True or False : In US, Clouds charted higher than Turbulent Indigo 7. True or False : Bill and Hillary Clinton named her daughter after Joni's version of Chelsea Morning. 8. Which song is the longest song on the album? a. Both Sides Now b. I Think I Understand c. Songs To Aging Children d. The Gallery 9. Which line can't be found on BSN .... (ummm, sorry for the grammar confusion, but i know you know what i mean) a. To say "I love you" right out loud b. And if you care, don't let them know c. It's an illusion I recall d. In living every day 10. How many BSNs are there on Joni's album catalogue? a. 1 b. 2 c. 3 d. 4 e. Only Bob knows 11. True or False : Clouds is ranked at #499 on Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest Album of All Time. 12. What is the name of a friend mentioned on The Fiddle and The Drum? a. Oddmund Kaarevik b. Robbie c. Angelina d. Johnny e. Woody 13. How many times did the character on the song That Songs About Midway cheat? a. once b. twice c. three times d. four times e. only the character and God and angels and satan know 14. Arrange this! (from first mentioned to last mentioned on Chelsea Morning) (1) milk and toast and honey (2) song outside my window (3) sun through yellow curtains (4) sun show every second 15. Think fast! Mention the very first thing that appears on your mind! Question: What is the previous album, alphabetically? 16. Which song is not on the album? a. TCG b. TSAM c. STAC d. ITIU 17. What is the penultimate song of this album? a. The Gallery b. Both Sides, Now c. Roses Blue d. Fiddle and The Drum 18. Which verse is the last verse of the Songs To Aging Children? (dont count Songs to aging children / Aging children I am one) a. Some come dark and strange like dying Crows and ravens whistling Lines of weeping, strings of crying So much said in listening b. Does the moon play only silver When it strums the galaxy Dying roses will they will their Perfumed rhapsodies to me c. People hurry by so quickly Dont they hear the melodies In the chiming and the clicking And the laughing harmonies d. Through the windless wells of wonder By the throbbing light machine In a tea leaf trance or under Orders from the king and queen Enjoy! Rian Who is waiting to be nagged by his boss because he did something wrong. NP. Joni  The Gallery Tonight will watch : Taxi Driver with Robert De Niro and Jodie Foster _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:59:33 -0400 From: "Vince Lavieri" Subject: Mary Grace - remembering it is spring and I remember Mary Grace - I looked up her homage and I am a month off when she died but spring is Mary Grace today I feel like remembering Mary Grace http://jmdl.com/remember.cfm?id=8 She was the most special gift of humor, love, and caring and she was a gift to us all Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 20:08:46 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Web question Copy Barb on any responses. - -----Original Message----- I have a dim memory of owning a vinyl album -- almost sure it was "Clouds" -- in the late '60's, but it had different artwork. It was a foldout, with hand-lettered lyrics and sort of collage pieces of Bosch's "Garden of Earthly Delights." Am I imagining this? Was it some other artist? Can't find it reproduced, or even mentioned, anywhere on the internet. Thank you! Name: Barb Clark email: Barb2845@alaska.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 19:13:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: The exploding line thread I'd also say for me personally in addition to what has been said is an "exploding line", it also is a line that DEMANDS you to sing along. There are some lines, no matter where I am or who I am with, I atleast sing the "exploding lines." You just can't not sing along. -M > so what is an exploding line? is it a line that just SLAYS you? a > line > so exquisite in the way its written AND the way its delivered > (vocally > as well as musically) that it just makes you go "wow"!??? > I'm not familiar with most of the ones that have been mentioned so > far, > Jerry's being the exception. > :) > Em Hi Em, For me it's either that the line (or lines) is so exquisitely crafted that it makes me go 'Wow! How does she do that?' Or it just hits me on the gut level and connects so directly to something in my life or my own thoughts that it becomes personally profound to me. It flashes out there, it won't be ignored. It explodes in my my brain and then brands itself on my consciouness. Joni's words have done this more than any other songwriter and some of those words have been in my head for more than 30 years. 'Heaven knows I loved you 30 years ago....' - - 'Two Grey Rooms' - That whole song is one for me. Mark in Seattle - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 22:04:22 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Mary Grace - remembering hear hear Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 3, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Vince Lavieri wrote: it is spring and I remember Mary Grace - I looked up her homage and I am a month off when she died but spring is Mary Grace today I feel like remembering Mary Grace http://jmdl.com/remember.cfm?id=8 She was the most special gift of humor, love, and caring and she was a gift to us all Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 05:34:07 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: The Exploding Line Thread There are just too many for me to choose a favorite, but I will cite Elvis Costello's if it hasn't already been: "Dressed in stolen clothes she stands cast iron and frail, With her impossibly gentle hands and her blood red fingernails." That's a good one, to be sure. I think he may have copped to paying homage to it in "Watching The Detectives." CC _________________________________________________________________ Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista Service Pack 1. http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #36 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe