From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #24 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 22 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 024 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: innocent cats and dogs ["mike pritchard" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2008 #31 ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" ] Re: Judy/joni [Jerry Notaro ] Sandy Denny article - Independent UK ["Barbara Stewart" Subject: RE: innocent cats and dogs >>There are 1,500 shelters for battered women in the United States. There are 3,800 animal shelters (Schneider, 1990).<< mike in bcn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:22:04 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2008 #31 Subject: Re: Night Ride Home locus Kakki wrote: +Thanks for posting the bit of the interview. Pretty amusing, although I cringed a bit with Joni talking paying for their "private beach." There are no "private beaches" in the islands of Hawaii. They are all public under the law and people even have the right to walk through someone's private yard to get to them. There are lots of ranches in the islands an a long cowboy (called paniolas in Hawaii) tradition going way back. *I recall that most of the original paniolas were Portuguese and they brought the guitar into the Hawaiian music.* There is a whole genre of Hawaiian Country music there, too, which is wonderful. I stayed in Hanalei a few years ago and it is a wonder of the world in beauty. I met a lot of the real locals and musicians hanging out there. It is a very magical place.; ######################################################## Hi Kakki, You're absolutely right: in Portugal we call those guitars "cavaquinhos". They are used mainly in northern folk music. Cheers, Samuel NP: The Blue Nile, "High" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:08:17 +0100 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: Judy/joni Very pleased about the potential Joni-covers album (if I read that right) from Judy Collins. It's a natural progression: she's done the Dylan album, the Cohen album, the (less necessary) Lennon& McCartney album. And she could do it like she did with Cohen - take the handful she's got (BSN, Chelsea Morning, Michael from M, For Free, Midway..did I miss any) and add a bigger handful. But choose wisely, Ms Collins - and imaginatively (and we can help you, if you like!) I remember hearing her on a BBC 'Top 12' (choose your favourite tracks) radio programme a long long time ago - I think she chose 'That Song about the Midway' then, and said she'd do a lot more Joni songs if Joni hadn't already sung the definitive versions. Well, it's a point. ( and so Oh wouldn't it be sweet and sensible if she delved into the unrecorded archives, as some enlightened devotee-artists are beginning to do. Couldn't you hear her pull out a great 'Melody in your Name'or even 'Winter Lady'?. I know, I know, I'm a man obsessed) Still, even if she goes for more obvious choices (place your bets ladies and gentlemen) for all Judy's apparent 'straightness' of delivery, she's still a great great interpretive singer, and the body of work she's compiling now, if she does it with soul and sensitivity, could have as much credibility in years to come as Ella Fitzgerald's great 'Songbook' series, and they way that has helped to honour the great outputs of Gershwin, Porter etc. Love to all Jeff, Wales longtime lurker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:44:43 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Judy/joni Great post, Jeff. You need to delurk more often. As per you Ella remarks, I couldn't agree more. As Maureen McGovern says, these are " the second half of the Great American Songbook." I really like that description. Jerry > Very pleased about the potential Joni-covers album (if I read that right) > from Judy Collins. > It's a natural progression: she's done the Dylan album, the Cohen album, the > (less necessary) Lennon& McCartney album. And she could do it like she did > with Cohen - take the handful she's got (BSN, Chelsea Morning, Michael from > M, For Free, Midway..did I miss any) and add a bigger handful. But choose > wisely, Ms Collins - and imaginatively (and we can help you, if you like!) > > I remember hearing her on a BBC 'Top 12' (choose your favourite tracks) > radio programme a long long time ago - I think she chose 'That Song about > the Midway' then, and said she'd do a lot more Joni songs if Joni hadn't > already sung the definitive versions. Well, it's a point. ( and so Oh > wouldn't it be sweet and sensible if she delved into the unrecorded > archives, as some enlightened devotee-artists are beginning to do. Couldn't > you hear her pull out a great 'Melody in your Name'or even 'Winter Lady'?. I > know, I know, I'm a man obsessed) > > Still, even if she goes for more obvious choices (place your bets ladies and > gentlemen) for all Judy's apparent 'straightness' of delivery, she's still a > great great interpretive singer, and the body of work she's compiling now, > if she does it with soul and sensitivity, could have as much credibility in > years to come as Ella Fitzgerald's great 'Songbook' series, and they way > that has helped to honour the great outputs of Gershwin, Porter etc. > Love to all > Jeff, Wales > longtime lurker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:11:34 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Sandy Denny article - Independent UK There is a piece about Sandy in today's Independent newspaper. You can read it online here: http://tinyurl.com/4xy47g (thx to a friend on the Fairport Convention list). B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: I Heard It Through The Grapevine I was just reading the latest addition to the JMDL library and noticed in 1983 Joni did a cover of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine." Does anyone know where I can find a recording of this to listen to? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. -Monika - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:45:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I Heard It Through The Grapevine - --- Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > I was just reading the latest addition to the JMDL > library and noticed in 1983 Joni did a cover of "I > Heard It Through The Grapevine." Does anyone know > where I can find a recording of this to listen to? > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > -Monika > Monika and anyone else that wants it, here is an mp3 of Joni singing "Grapevine" in Toronto, July 12, 1983: http://download.yousendit.com/5CAFD046660219FD Enjoy! Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:22:39 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: And I thought of Anna wild and dear (TTT) I was just out on my small little patio watering the plants, and I saw a plane high above "go blinking by". How long before what is essentially "time travel" in these aluminum tubes nad lately missiles become only a thing for the elite as there is nothing but (formerly) cheap fossil fuel that gives them their gravity-defying abilities? I'm about two hours north of Orlando and this part of Florida is heavily forested, but I can clearly see the jets as they make their approach (still at high altitude) to Orlando. I had thought I would be moving back to Arizona (I'm allergic to humidity it seems) and spent a couple of weeks at my parents' (yes it was a nightmare) further south in Ocala where you can see two distinct lines as some jets make their war towards Orlando and the others towards Tampa. Anyways I felt pressured to find homes for some of my cats as they weren't welcome (to put it mildly) by my parents and found homes for Frances the Ragdoll kitten and Sorrel my 6 year old Himalayan from Tucson. I had two 12 year old Himalayans from Phoenix, and one of them went missing. I found Sophie the next day, she had gotten out somehow and had hidden up on the front axle of the car. So I'm still reeling from that event of March 16. I've had plenty of sympathies thrown in with one "why wasn't she in a cage" remark, none of it means much now... She was ill, she probably didn't have a lot of time left ...this is true. But right now it's still like that scene out of "Adaptation" (wonderful movie) to me where Meryl Streep's soon-to-be Orchid-hunting lover is backing out and his mother is in the back of the car and I believe that a truck collides with the rear of his car in the scene. "People will tell you where they've been, they'll tell you where to go, but til you get there yourself, you never really know". Amelia, I've always loved the song and have always thought of those lines in terms of geography but now I'm thinking they can be emotional references as well. That's the beauty of Joni's lyrics, they continually take on new meanings as we meander through this world of ours hopefully becoming wiser (the name Sophie is from the Latin for knowledge...hence philo sophy, French savoir, Spanish saber). I named her after the movie "Sophie's Choice", another favorite of mine, though the best movie Oscar could have justifiably gone to "Frances" that same year, instead the Academy gave the nod by giving one to Jessica Lange for her supporting role in Tootsie. So anyways I was thinking of Sophie and Sorrel today, the kitten I really did not have that much time to become so attached to. And the TTT reference "and I thought of Anna, wild and dear"...just as was Sorrel. She had to go running about outside everyday, much to my dismay, hated being held, and would leave my hands tattered after trying to comb the mats from her. But I underestimated the affection I had for her after 6 years of raising her. I guess kind of like when Joni threw Nietzche out of the front door, and ended up writing Man From Mars during the two weeks or so he went missing. I fall apart Everytime I think of you Swallowed by the dark There is no center to my life now No grace in my heart ... the description is so apt I can't add anything more... So the lyrics from TTT were playing in my mind while outside tonight. I watched the stars chuck down their spears And a plane went blinking by And I thought of Anna Wild and dear Like fireworks in the sky Fireworks in the sky I'm so sick of this game It's hip, it's hot Life's too short, the whole thing's gotten Boring! The old man is snoring And I'm taming the tiger (you can't tame the tiger) Tiger, tiger burning bright Nice, kitty kitty (boring!) TTT is an obvious reference to her cats, and a no-holds-barred condemnation of the recording industry. I've always wondered if it was speaking of something larger, our wasteful Wester "civilization" which throws away 99 percent of what it buys within 6 months maybe? Maybe it was simply the recording industry and I'm reading too much into it. I have never understood "The old man is snoring" reference though and would love to know what that is about. Mark in Florida. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #24 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe