From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #21 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, April 19 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 021 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Channeling Joni again ["Mark Angelo" ] Looking for suggestions [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Looking for suggestions ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Sheila Weller Interview on WFUV [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Looking for suggestions [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Looking for suggestions [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Looking for suggestions [Monika Bogdanowicz ] The Windfall vocal delivery [Russell Bowden ] Re: Channeling Joni again ["Mark Angelo" ] powerful Joni lyrics [Jeannie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:03:55 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Channeling Joni again I know I'm late to this but I just watched clips from Joni on on the Andrew Marr Show part 1 (02.12.07) on YouTube and I can't help but feel I am channeling her when she makes no-holds-barred statements which I think about daily and which I try to proffer myself (if I'm in a non-lurking mood) such as "We've been destroying 47 to 50 species a day ..for 40 to 50 years .. and eventually it will come down to will we be able to survive AND WE'RE THERE NOW' and "I've always been very sensitive to the natural world and ashamed of my species for it's treatment of it and ... that's my cross to bear". I have felt exactly the same way for some time now. I too am ashamed of the human race and their insensitivity (in a collective sense) to the environment and natural world that nurtures and sustains them. I find myself turning to sites such as The Oil Drum http://www.theoildrum.com/ and Money Matters with Elaine Meinel Supkis http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/money_matters/ to find substantive information on the reality of energy resources and resultant effect on the economy (and world population and food) and the latter for relevant information on the economy based on a historical perspective, which has been known to repeat itself they say... Daily Kos http://www.dailykos.com will have a recommended diary on occasion, though most don't make it to the recommended list, that doesn't deal with politics and addresses the Biodiversity Holocaust which Joni correctly mentions has been occurng for decades with little fanfare. Every time I hear her speak I am simply in awe of her clarity of vision of this "massive mess we're in" largely brought on by "worshipping our own egos". Reminds me of the Planet of the Apes and how they worshipped the Lawgiver, also in the form of their own image, and the fate that befell them in the sequel. Also from Beneath the Planet of the Apes when the subterranean mutant humans say to James Franciscus "We are a peaceful people. We don't kill our enemies. We get our enemies to kill each other." Kind of like what the US has done to Iraq, stirring up centuries-old conflicts, and probably plans to do to the entire Middle Eastern region in the quest to control the oil resources there. Anyways getting into NJC grey area here so will stop my rambling. Mark in Florida. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntAJN70bU30 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:35:24 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Looking for suggestions I'm going to make a compilation of Joni tunes for a young friend. Don't think I'll include something from every recording but I'd like to span her career. What I'm looking for is a few suggestions for song combinations (doubles or triples) of songs that folks think are good combos. I'd like to include Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire, Dog Eat Dog, DJRD, For Free, Lesson in Survival, Just Like This Train, Passion Play and others ... but want some fun Joni too. Any suggestions gladly accepted. Dancing Clowns in it for the Windfall need not apply. **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:57:24 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions I'd say bookended with both versions of Both Sides Now for sure! Talk To Me is always fun and the flipside of that one Off Night Backstreet On 18/04/2008, StDoherty@aol.com wrote: > I'm going to make a compilation of Joni tunes for a young friend. Don't > think I'll include something from every recording but I'd like to span her > career. What I'm looking for is a few suggestions for song combinations (doubles - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:18:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions It's not doubles but you must include Coyote followed by Don Juan's Reckless (I always want to put a W at the start of that) Daughter, because they go together. - --- Jamie's Box of Paints wrote: > I'd say bookended with both versions of Both Sides > Now for sure! > > Talk To Me is always fun and the flipside of that > one Off Night Backstreet > > > On 18/04/2008, StDoherty@aol.com > wrote: > > I'm going to make a compilation of Joni tunes for > a young friend. Don't > > think I'll include something from every recording > but I'd like to span her > > career. What I'm looking for is a few suggestions > for song combinations (doubles > -- Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:34:39 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Sheila Weller Interview on WFUV I realize that many of you might not have gotten the notice about the interview with Sheila Weller ("Girls Like Us" author) on WFUV (9 PM Thursday night) until after it aired, but I was able to record the hour-long show and it was pretty good. If anyone wants to hear it, it should be available on the WFUV archives (go to WFUV.org) under "Studio A" events. If anyone has trouble finding or accessing it, I could send you a copy of the show but I will be away for a week (beginning Saturday, the 19th) so I couldn't do anything until I return. Kenny B ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:50:15 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions Tim, How about the "Trouble Child/Twisted" combo from C&S - since one fades into the next it's a natural choice, and Twisted, although it's not Joni's composition, is plenty fun. Bob NP: Karrin Allyson, "Everybody's Cryin' Mercy" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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(http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions I second that suggestion on including Coyote. You must! I go by the notion that if you don't like Coyote, there is something wrong with you! Only kidding. I would suggest possibly Raised On Robbery, which is indeed fun, although not something I'd consider Joni's best. However, I've personally witnessed some interest in that song from non Joni fans. Just saying. Hmm...I'd include something from Shine but the question is what? Let me get back to you and please tell us your friend's opinion on the cd afterwards! -Monika - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:19:51 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: The Windfall vocal delivery Gang, I never heard all that much anger in the song...I did hear some dropped-jaw wry amusement and a dollop ( a dollop, mind you) of pity......When one comes up against such total greedi- and vindictive-ness...one could be angry or shrug it off...sounds to me like Our Queen did both...You go, Girl!! Do people still say that? Been in Maine too long.. Love, Russ _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:00:28 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Channeling Joni again Thanks. I agree "afflicted" is unfortunately more like the condition for sensitive people, particularly artists such as Joni (and the rest of us who see the Western dogma we were endoctrinated with as it is, killing the planet and ultimately ourselves as it is both painful and frustrating to be cognizant about while only being able to deliver a message, while empty suits and big business wield power to try and kill the messenger. "Last night I saw the planet flicker Last night I dreamed I saw the planet flicker Great forests fell like buffalo Everything got sicker And to the bitter end Big business bickered" Three Great Stimulants - DED On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:13 AM, T Peckham wrote: > Very well put. It's extremely difficult, frustrating, and painful to > possess that sort of clarity in these times . . . and for some reason, it > usually seems to be bestowed upon--more like afflicted on!--artists. > Terra > > > On 4/18/08, Mark Angelo wrote: > > > > ...I can't help but feel I am channeling her when she makes > > no-holds-barred statements which I think about daily ...such as "We've been > > destroying 47 to 50 species a day ..for 40 to 50 years .. and eventually it > > will come down to will we be able to survive AND WE'RE THERE NOW' and "I've > > always been very sensitive to the natural world and ashamed of my species > > for it's treatment of it and ... that's my cross to bear". I have felt > > exactly the same way for some time now. I too am ashamed of the human race > > and their insensitivity (in a collective sense) to the environment and > > natural world that nurtures and sustains them. > > > -- > Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss > my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:04:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: powerful Joni lyrics The lyrics that hit me one evening last week like a ton of truth and bricks were: "Fertile farmlands buried under sub-divisions" And I couldn't stop crying and stop my anger towards the Nixon Administration and his greed laden colleagues/leaders of that time, like George Bush, a sire of sorrow and father to the present president, when they decided against a mass transit system and decided to spread the populations of the major cities, large and small, burying the earth and fertile farmlands with the concrete and shoppiong malls and sub-divisions. And, why? To have to drive and use as much gasoline and money as possible with those gigantic V-8 engines that came along with American-made cars. And really look deep and all around us to see the results. And to think that at the turning of this century, we got ourselves another Bush and the oil-rich pimps and politicians, pulling the strings, merrily promoting Humvees and SUVs for the citizens of the USA!?! And the living sleepy-heads and blind patriots fell for it and didn't understand a damn thing about the lyrics in a compact, gasoline-saving Big Yellow Taxi that was riding all around. Some befitting ~Mingus~ lyrics for the Bushes A Chair In The Sky ~~Joni Mitchell~~ 'I see myself in style Raking in what I'm worth Next time I'll be bigger! I'll be better than ever! I'll be resurrected royal! I'll be as rich as standard oil.' So freaking sad and absurd. Imagine the Karma that comes along with this horrific greed and power-lust that one can't help feel pity for the scary wrath that awaits them, falling on them and theirs likes trillions of tons of lead-laden balloons from a chair in the sky. Until A Little Later, Jeannie ~nj~ - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #21 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe