From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #20 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, April 18 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 020 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Night Ride Home locus ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Girls Like Us ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: "The Music of Joni Mitchell" ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Girls Like Us ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] WFUV Tonight: Sheila Weller ("Girls Like Us') interview [PassScribe@aol.c] Re: The Windfall (Everything For Nuthin) Discussion ["Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Night Ride Home locus The kitten she took home with them and became either Pansy or Neitzche or Malt-Loaf or whatever the cats are called.... Don't quote me on Malt-Loaf On 16/04/2008, Marian Russell wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to the kitten? > > The song is prettier than the story. Leave it to Joni to create something > beautiful out of what must have been a horrible end to their otherwise > pleasantly surreal evening. I guess that's what true artists do. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:58:38 -0500 From: "Russell Laird" Subject: The NYTimes review of "Girls Like Us" http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/books/17masl.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:33:49 EDT From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Review of "Girls Like Us" in The New York Times Hi Everyone, Just delurking for a moment to send this link of the New York Times review of "Girls Like Us". I haven't gotten the book yet, but the review is very interesting to read. Scroll down to the bottom and there's a link to related articles on Joni. There are some things I hadn't read there as well that are interesting so you might want to check them out. I'd talk more but I'm going to baby sit my beautiful 10 1/2 month old granddaughter Lilly this morning and I have to be there in half and hour. Have a great day. Love to all, Pearl in Hollywood, Florida **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:56:59 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: "The Music of Joni Mitchell" http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0195307992/ref=pe_3421_10236601_pe_snp_99 2 Got this note from Amazon today. I hadn't heard of this book on the list (but I may have missed it). Sounds very in-depth. I'm not sure I'd even understand it. But I may have to purchase it anyway . Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:53:43 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Girls Like Us I'm not sure why Carly was picked for this group. It seems Joan Baez is more deserving to be included with Carole & Joni who were all the musical icons of that time. Although Carole's voice is less than perfect I just LOVED Tapestry & never really noticed her voice since the songs were just so great. Joni came along & topped that with her beautiful songs, extraordinary guitar playing & gorgeous voice & awesome voice & ethereal beauty. I thought Carole was beautiful too in a NY down to earth way. The first thing I remember about Carly was that cover of her album. For some reason her voice always annoyed me (too pitchy) & I never thought much of her songs. Although there was the naked Joni photo inside the album (I'm thinking that it preceded Carly's cover?) it was different in the way Carly presented herself for her cover. She is the first songwriter that I remember used sexuality to promote her album. There was a hooker like quality to that cover. Decades later this hooker theme among young female performers has become commonplace. So maybe because of that she deserves to be considered. Although I don't care for Carly's music (love her harmonizing with James though) I think very highly of her as a person. From what I have read she seems to have a lot of integrity & raised her kids right. It seems her kids adore her too. I liked the article, thanks for posting it! http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/books/17masl.html?ref=arts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:54:41 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: "The Music of Joni Mitchell" Lloyd Whitesell has several articles archived in JoniMitchell.com. Really interesting stuff! Zooby On 17/04/2008, Lindsay Moon wrote: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0195307992/ref=pe_3421_10236601_pe_snp_99 > 2 > > Got this note from Amazon today. I hadn't heard of this book on the list > (but I may have missed it). Sounds very in-depth. I'm not sure I'd even > understand it. But I may have to purchase it anyway . > > Lindsay > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:04:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Girls Like Us Kate Bennett wrote: > I'm not sure why Carly was picked for this group. It seems Joan Baez is > more deserving to be included with Carole & Joni who were all the musical > icons of that time. Or Laura Nyro. Maybe she included Carly instead of Laura because Carly's public life was much more glamorous and well known. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:38:25 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Girls Like Us LOL Apparently the book makes the connection - They've all had James Taylor in some form or another! Jamie Zooby On 17/04/2008, Jerry Notaro wrote: > Kate Bennett wrote: > > I'm not sure why Carly was picked for this group. It seems Joan Baez is > > more deserving to be included with Carole & Joni who were all the musical > > icons of that time. > > Or Laura Nyro. Maybe she included Carly instead of Laura because Carly's > public life was much more glamorous and well known. > > Jerry > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:55:07 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: WFUV Tonight: Sheila Weller ("Girls Like Us') interview Hi, all, I know the "Girls Like Us" book has been quite a controversial item here on the JMDL, so I thought some of you might like to hear an interview with the author tonight at 9 PM, on WFUV (90.7 FM and streaming online at WFUV.org.) As their promo says: Words and Music from Studio A: Sheila Weller, author of Girls Like Us: Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon b and the Journey of a Generation, chats with Dennis Elsas in Studio A. If I'm around at that hour and I remember, I'll record it in case anyone wants a copy. Kenny B ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:41:02 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: The Windfall (Everything For Nuthin) Discussion Well it's good to see that The Windfall from NRH has generated so much discussion. I think it is the anger in the song which is palpable in her vocals that strikes me about the song, especially in the refrain where overdubbing builds noticeably from "you want" to an even louder "everything". I know for myself there is always some "troublemaker" in our lives. I am still working on what I believe to be Buddhist teaching that you take pity on the troublemaker and realize that he/she is suffering and in pain and um...I forget what next but as I said I am working on it... I really can identify with these lyrics too: Going to the church You chant For my downfall Chanting for my house My friends You want it all When you are at the height of your struggle with that troublemaker, a maid, a friend that has betrayed you, your landlord, and especially any authority figure, you can endow that person with so much power (letting them take up space in your head free of charge) you can sometimes (maybe often even) get to the point where you believe they are spending every free second working on your demise as reflected in the lyrics above. It's a bad place to be in, it drains your own energy, and I have a feeling this song was very cathartic for Joni. Anger is an emotion we all have, with varying degrees of difficulty in expressing it, and IMHO I am glad that we have this work of art she produced out of that anger, however controversial it may be, instead of a 45 minute session with some psychotherapist. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #20 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe