From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #16 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 14 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 016 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: lyrics that suck ["Anita Tedder" ] Joni license plate [Patti Parlette ] link to marcel desilets on cd baby [Mags ] re: lyrics that suck ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Night Ride Home locus [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Joni license plate ["Cassy" ] Re: Night Ride Home locus ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Night Ride Home locus [Bob Muller ] Re: The More Things Change, The More They Remain The Same (Joni-influenced content)/Autism [Jeannie Subject: RE: lyrics that suck 'Girls in tight dresses who drag with moustaches Chick driving fast on bikes with long lashes' The L Word theme tune. Not only the world's worst melody but also worst lyric in the world ever. BTW, ever seen a Harley with eyelashes? How could the producers of this show allow the lesbian community be seen as the uncoolest people in the world by commissioning this dreadful theme music? Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:16:36 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni license plate Chelsea Morning! The CBS Sunday Morning Show (Hi Jerry!) just had a segment on license plates, which called to heart and mind an idea I had a while back....when I bought my new vehicle and y'all helped with christening song ideas (Hejira won, impossibly gentle hands down) and other advice (Muller said: "Don't drive it into a ditch" -- that son of a b@#$h!) and Patti W. designed those awesome bumper stickers. (WWJD, My other car is a big yellow tax, SIQUOMB, and Don Juan's Reckless Driver?) and Em sent me the "Joni Mitchell Never Lies" one. (Merci encore une fois, cheri(e)s!) Anyway, my idea at the time was to get a Joni vanity plate. I never ended up ordering one because I didn't want to be wrestling with my ego as I drove around on the black road (double-yellow lines) or the fine white lines of the free free way. Also, there would be the repetitious danger that another asshole passing on the right might yell out: "You're so vain!" (Although in 2005 we were not yet talking about those assholes, of course.) The plate I would have picked was: JONI . 1 That could mean two things: "Joni is number one" or I am a "Joni one" Get the picture? No? Voila: http://www.dmvplate.state.ct.us/VanityPlate.asp?PlateNo=JONI.1&PlateType=Greenways There are different backgrounds/plates you can chose, but I think Joni would like the "Greenways" one best, don't you think? (WWJD?) I know Ms. Treegreen would! It's pretty green, and there are trees on the left...like a little tree museum and....listen...you can almost hear strains of Benny Goodman, coming through the pine wood trees.... With Joni Love on a Sunday morning, Patti P., avoiding doing my tax returns because all the money money money money goes to the WAR and the bloody changes and they won't give peace a chance it was just a dream some of us had and it makes me absolutely f@#$ing INSANE! How do you stop (it)? Somebody tell me, please! You feel so feeble now. It's so out of hand.... (A little yin yang for you folks.) _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:09:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: link to marcel desilets on cd baby i forgot to send the link to marcel on cd baby. i think y'all will like his work. http://cdbaby.com/found?allsearch=marcel+desilets oh yea, he's a joni mitchell kindred spirit. if y'all decide to come on down to winnipeg this july, you might just get to hear him . as zooby says, much joni to y'all on this chill in the air kinda day. mags - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:32:28 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: re: lyrics that suck there's a restaurant down the street / it's where hungry people go to eat. ha / ha / ha / ha / stayin' alive / stayin' alive. BGs (I hate that song) dance / dance / dance / let's make some ro-mance. Steve Miller (but I like the song anyway). I guess that's the yin and yang of bad lyrics. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:55:38 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Night Ride Home locus Hi everyone, The list talk has been a bit slim and lacking in Joni content of late so here's an actual topical question for you mavens. We've been doing Night Ride Home for years and it's been one of our most popular Joni covers as it's so easy to get into the imagery and the song is so straightforward with no Martian chords. The other day we got into a spirited debate about where the night ride actually takes place. Vote A was for Hawaii (Hula girls, Ukulele Man, and an actual dark horse running alongside the car. Vote B was for somewhere out in the desert, maybe around Las Vegas, a familiar drive for most Southern Californians. Out there are plenty of silver power lines, caterpillar tractors, big blue moon and neon signs of things like ukulele players and hula dancers. I proposed that the big Dark Horse, red tail lights on his hide, was in fact a brand name for some kind of big rig truck and as you merge onto a freeway it is right along side and you rev for stride. We never resolved the debate but I said I'd pose it to the gurus. What 'a ya got....? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:19:09 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Joni license plate From: "Patti Parlette" <<< The plate I would have picked was: JONI . 1 >>> It was 1994 that Turbulent Indigo came out, serendipitously Michigan began allowing 7 characters on their license plates the same year and after listening to Sex Kills I began to really think about Joni-personalized plates, in 1999 I finally ended up purchasing SIQUOMB for myself. When I moved to the Seattle area last year I was very nervous that it wouldn't be available but it was so I've continued the tradition. I've been wearing that plate since October 1999 and I don't know what I'd do without it. My other possibilities at the time were: SEXKILS (they wouldn't let me have this) HEJIRA LAKOTA (I decided to use this one to name my dog instead - R.I.P.) TWISTED COYOTE FORFREE I was wishing I had more letters available because I would have loved to have SISOTOWBELL DAWNTREADER BLACKCROW Did you decide to get the plate, Patti? <<< Patti P., avoiding doing my tax returns because all the money money money money goes to the WAR and the bloody changes and they won't give peace a chance it was just a dream some of us had and it makes me absolutely f@#$ing INSANE! How do you stop (it)? Somebody tell me, please! You feel so feeble now. It's so out of hand.... >>> Patti, you're my heroine! love, love, love, Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:24:40 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Night Ride Home locus Well, if we're going to go along with her painting of the same name ('Big Blue Moon There' 1987) I will say Kauai - which is an island (or a place? My geography of Hawaii isn't great) in/near Hawaii. And the video will also go along with the beach idea. However the 'open road' and 'horse' images that she brings to it, take it away from my idea of Hawaii. OK so the horse is a metaphor for a car but she brings it to the table. As archivist to the jonimitchell.com/painter website I'm ashamed to say that I don't seem to have a copy of this painting on the site! Must hunt for it. Though I did have it hanging on my wall, as it was a poster for the exhibition Much Joni Jamie Zooby On 13/04/2008, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Hi everyone, > The list talk has been a bit slim and lacking in Joni content of > late so here's an actual topical question for you mavens. > > We've been doing Night Ride Home for years and it's been one of our > most popular Joni covers as it's so easy to get into the imagery and > the song is so straightforward with no Martian chords. The other day > we got into a spirited debate about where the night ride actually > takes place. Vote A was for Hawaii (Hula girls, Ukulele Man, and an > actual dark horse running alongside the car. Vote B was for somewhere > out in the desert, maybe around Las Vegas, a familiar drive for most > Southern Californians. Out there are plenty of silver power lines, > caterpillar tractors, big blue moon and neon signs of things like > ukulele players and hula dancers. I proposed that the big Dark Horse, > red tail lights on his hide, was in fact a brand name for some kind > of big rig truck and as you merge onto a freeway it is right along > side and you rev for stride. We never resolved the debate but I said > I'd pose it to the gurus. > > What 'a ya got....? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:32:40 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: lyrics that suck , neil young edition From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > dance / dance / dance / let's make some ro-mance. Steve Miller (but I > like the song anyway). Snake eyes, french fries, I got lots of gas Full moon and a truckin' tune You don't have to ask C'mon baby, let's go downtown... Hello cowgirl in the sand Is this place at your command? Old enough now, to change your name When so many love you, is it the same? Got mashed potatoes Got mashed potatoes Got mashed potatoes Ain't got no t-bone (repeat over and over for 9 minutes) Rapid transit. Public service. I'm standing in my line. Melt down. Containment. I'm standing in my line - -Neil Young ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:54:57 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Night Ride Home locus From: "Dave Blackburn" > We've been doing Night Ride Home for years and it's been one of our > most popular Joni covers as it's so easy to get into the imagery and > the song is so straightforward with no Martian chords. The other day > we got into a spirited debate about where the night ride actually > takes place. Okay, I thought this song was about a road trip she took with Larry to Canada ie home. (Or home being back to L.A.). I don't know about the Hawaiian images, but the song is pretty vague in general. One of our Joni herstorians surely knows. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Night Ride Home locus Nope - Hawaii is the correct answer, but we do have some nice parting gifts for you Mr. Remote. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Chris Douridas in 1994: Music up: "Night Ride Home.") CD: It's so nice listening to you guys play this song and to see your exchange of smiles at that one point in the song where you say, "I love the man beside me." JM: Oh, yeah, this was a beautiful trip we took. It was. We went to -- fourth of July we went to Hanalei. Was it Hanalei? Larry Klein: Yeah, it was Kawai, yeah. JM: And we had a really nice evening and there was like a lot of, like, local kind of hula stuff while it was light, and then there was a band -- there were two bands. A traditional ukulele band, like slack-key band playing in one room, and then there was a rock band playing in the other. And we befriended the wife of one of the band members that night. Then the drive home was really kind of surreal. Actually you've got to get kind of a pre-setting to it. We rented this house and before we left, the people who rented the house next to us had decided to have this barbecue on our beach. Now we weren't going to be using that beach that night, but when you pay for a private beach, it kind of like bugs you to see these people like frying burgers on your beach, you know. CD: You want to at least be able to look at it. JM: So -- and plus they were shooting off these rockets, right? And I was standing at the window thinking that's our beach, you know. We paid for that beach and everything. So anyway, then logic enters into it and you think, well, you know, we're not going to be using it, we're going on the other side of the island. So we go over to the other side of the island. We have a pleasant evening listening to this traditional music and a little bit of the rock. And we're coming home -- either we had a tinted windshield in the car or else there was a real blue moon, but the clouds were scudding overhead real fast. They were moving like, you know, on our route anyway they were moving right to left across, and there was a big blue moon hanging in the sky. LK: Oh, yeah. JM: And everything seemed enchanted. The dots on the highway seemed enchanted. The wires as they scooped along outside the window seemed more silver than ever and in the distance we thought we saw a flying saucer land. We couldn't figure it out. It was like this patch of light in the middle of the field. Well when we came up on it, it was a big yellow tractor with the headlights on and guys in overalls with one leg up on the bumper drinking beer and laughing in the middle of this cane field. Then when we came to our turn-off, this horse loped alongside of us literally with the taillights of our car reflecting on his hide and his big eye staring in the window. When we got back to the house, we walked in and it smelled of burn. It smelled like wet firewood. Went into the bedroom, and we had just found a kitten a couple of days earlier, a little runty kitten, like, that was prematurely weaned and really high-spirited. And we left her in there. We came into the house and there was a stink of fire, wet fire. Went into the bedroom. The bed had been moved out into the middle of the room and all the bed clothes were soggy and there was a big hole in the roof and a note from the neighbors who'd had the barbecue on our beach saying, "Gee, suddenly your roof caught fire. We don't know how it happened, but we rented your house on our last vacation so we knew where the spare key was so we stuck a garden hose, like, up on your roof and we came -- " but they started the fire -- CD: With their rockets. JM: -- because they were with their rockets at the beginning of the evening and this little kitten was in there. But the whole thing was kind of surreal and enchanted. LK: Like a film. JM: Yeah, it was like this funny little film. ********************************************************* Bob NP: Joni, "Two Grey Rooms" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: The More Things Change, The More They Remain The Same (Joni-influenced content)/Autism How are y'all? I don't know why I have been so sensitive lately. The doctor says it's depression and the priest told me it was compassion and that is why I mourn, morning, noon and night, these days. I'm sure many of you have seen the documentary on HBO On Demand on the subject of autism and the innocent dance of love the autistic children perform. I can't help the emotions of joy when I see autistic children bloom and the pain I feel for the ones still locked away in a world of no communication. There is this sweet child who sings Joni's, ' Urge For Going' so real and so free and beautifully at the beginning of the documentary. Mr. and Mrs. Steven Stills and their unbelievably special, funny and intelligent autistic son appear on the documentary. I praise all parents who teach their children well under any circumstance such as Steven Stills and and his beautiful wife and so many other compassionate and determined people who give their all and who truly are the pioneers and seekers of mental health. Jeannie Brian Gross wrote: http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2008/04/10/news/local/doc47fd46f94c509613389585.txt Brian, who continues to firmly believe there is Joni-content everywhere. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ~nj~ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:30:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: lyrics that suck , neil young edition Well in Neil's defense, that first set of lyrics wasn't written by him. The song was mostly written by Danny Whitten. Neil's lyrical contribution to it was minimal--his lines only were the "sure enough they'll be selling.../moon lines." This is a song sung by Whitten which Crazy Horse did in or around '70. Neil found a recording of it (live I believe) and slapped it onto "Tonight's The Night" feeling this song was essential to that album. As for the mashed potates lines, well maybe he had just smoked up prior to writing those and was REALLY hungry. Haha, that would explain the length, lack of direction and the words then! -M, who likes the lyrics to Cowgirl In The Sand Randy Remote wrote: Snake eyes, french fries, I got lots of gas Full moon and a truckin' tune You don't have to ask C'mon baby, let's go downtown... Hello cowgirl in the sand Is this place at your command? Old enough now, to change your name When so many love you, is it the same? Got mashed potatoes Got mashed potatoes Got mashed potatoes Ain't got no t-bone (repeat over and over for 9 minutes) Rapid transit. Public service. I'm standing in my line. Melt down. Containment. I'm standing in my line - -Neil Young Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #16 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe