From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #497 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, March 24 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 497 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- SV: Shine listening ["Marion Leffler" ] Joni at Herbie taping ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Joni on Vanilla Sky [Bob Muller ] Re: Shine listening [Bob Muller ] Joni Mitchell/A Bridge/Suicide! ["Phyliss Ward" ] Re: Wow content - Joni and Herbie tonight [Sherelle Smith ] Re: Sheila Weller's "Girls Like Us" blog [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Happy Easter From Bo [Peep Richman ] 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq ["Vince Lavieri" ] sorry ["Vince Lavieri" ] Re: 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq ["gene" ] sorry ["gene" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:05:33 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Shine listening A couple of days ago! I still like One week last summer, Night of the Iguana and If the best but I find I am taking a shine to Strong and wrong as well, despite what I think are rather weak lyrics. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Monika Bogdanowicz Skickat: den 23 mars 2008 03:46 Till: Joni people! Dmne: Shine listening Well it's been a little while now since Shine was released. That being said, when was the last time you listened to it? Just curious. -M - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:10:11 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Joni at Herbie taping I get these notes on butterflies and lilac sprays from girls who just have to tell me they saw you somewhere! Oh wow! Thanks for the reports, Kakki and Lesli! You were so lucky! Good for you! Happy Easter holiday to everyone and to those of you who do not celebrate this holiday, have a nice Sunday. Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:36:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni on Vanilla Sky And there's also a Joni mention in "Into The Wild" which I watched last night - the scene in Slab City when Raney encourages Alex/Chris to go talk to the young singer/songwriter across the lot, referring to her as "our Joni Mitchell". Always fun to see/hear a Joni reference when it's not expected. Bob NP: The Story, "Always" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shine listening About 2 weeks ago - my ears always perk up when I hear it and I like it a bunch. Although I must say that I have come to dread listening to the title track, musically it's a zero and lyrically it's sophomoric and it prattles on for over 7 minutes (seems like more). Bob ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:28:48 -0400 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: Joni Mitchell/A Bridge/Suicide! Actually, the song was originally written for the movie "Grace of My Heart" in which a guy commits suicide by walking into the ocean. "This time you went too far" Joni was inspired by the loss of her cat "Man from Mars", who ran away for a while... Read more about it here.... http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=397 Subject: Joni Mitchell/A Bridge/Suicide! Well, is there any relation between them? Yes there is. Yesterday, i watched a DVD. It was a documentary titled The Bridge. The movie is about suicides committed at the Golden Gate Bridge. In 2004, there were 24 people chose to end their lives there. And the relation with Joni? Well, in the middle of the movie, there was an audio clip that surprised me. It was dam da dam... dam da dam.... (DONT blame me for inaccuracy, onomatopoeia can vary within cultures) I thought Oh damn! That song! It was Man From Mars. Since i lost you I can't get through the day Without at least one big boo-hoo I always thought the song was simply about love. But, the movie opened another dimension of the song. It can be also translated into a feeling of losing a friend who committed suicide (which must be painful, right?). Rian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:23:17 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: Re: Wow content - Joni and Herbie tonight Hi my dear friend, It seems like I always find the perfect timing to come back to the JMDL! My new laptop makes it difficult to reply to posts without a lot of cutting and pasting plus time has found me at a disadvantage to get online the way I used to. This is wonderful Kakki! Simply wonderful!!! I'm so happy for you, Leslie, Pete and anyone else fortunate enough to go to this taping! Words escape me but know how much I appreciate your wonderful review! Hooray that you got a chance to see Bob Shepard again!!!! I remember us sitting together a little over a year ago watching him acknowledge us in a kind nod as we gave our silent admiration for a solo! It seems that Joni's friends never forget her and treasure her. Marcus Miller too??? Oh my goodness! I'm so happy you got an opportunity to see him on the same stage with these greats! That had to be an awesome performance! Thank you again my friend. You gave a fine review! I remember us sitting in the lounge of the very same hotel where you met dear Joni, Van Morrison and so many others. It was almost a magical experience for me to hear you tell your story (you know you have to tell more and I won't let you off the hook if you know what I mean). You made my Easter Sunday a very special one! Love, Sherelle Kakki wrote: Yes, it has been my Joni list avocation ;-) to bring you all a recitation ofJoni and other music reviews over the years but I have to confess I am almoststumped tonight after attending the Herbie Hancock taping. Ah well, I amgetting older and concise articulation is perhaps no longer my forte - hee!So my review of tonight will be all over the place but hopefully you will getthe drift. (I am also exhausted so cut me some slack ;-) The overwhelmingfeeling is, my God, how did I get so lucky? I remember when I joined the listin 1997, none of us had seen Joni perform live in some 15 years and neverexpected to ever see her perform live again. When she did the '98 tours wethought we had died and gone to heaven. Then magically there were more eventsand art exhibits and the PWWAM taping and the 2000 tour and we were alive andthrashing ecstatically once again. Just have to say that once again I won theJoni lottery tonight at the Herbie taping. Lesli and I are the lucky girls.But I digress... We showed up - about 400 of us - and comfortably packed into a small soundstage. Lesli and Pete got front row seats and I got the back but was onlyabout 35 feet away from the stage. I spotted Joni's good friend CharlesValentino ("Val") sitting on a couch nearby with Herbie's wife and daughterand thought this was a good omen. The stage director then somewhatbreathlessly started telling us that we were in for some really big surprisestonight and that he has done 31 tapings with other artists but this one wasgoing to take the cake, so to speak. So Herbie and the musicians come out - King of Sax Bob Sheppard, Joni bandmate Vinnie Coliauta, Marcus Miller on bass and amazing Lionel from Benin onlead guitar. They play and then everyone keeps talking about "surprises."They do a Q and A from the audience with Herbie. One guy asks why Herbiedecided to choose Joni's works for the last album. Of course, Herbie raved onall about Joni. Then he brings her out! She looked absolutely gorgeous. Shewas wearing a fantastic sort of print coat dress that I saw her in during the2000 BSN tour which looks like silk jersey and shows the marbled bowling ballof earth and Krishna swinging on a crescent moon and the stars and comets. (Irecall back then being amazed that she found the perfect Judgment of the Moonand Stars dress). She then performed the most astounding version of River -all jazz and Herbie inflected style. It was just stunning. Joni's singingvoice is amazingly good right now - I felt like I was transported back intime. She then performed Tea Leaf Prophecy and then, surprise, Sonya Kitchellcame onstage to back her up on Hana. Everyone was on their feet. I wasthinking, well, at least in this setting there will not be anyone bleating out"I Love You, Joni" but yes there was! And it was her own best friend Val whoyelled it out with a big grin on his face. It was great! There was some moreQ & A with Herbie and now I was just mesmerized by his thoughts. Those whoare inspired by Mr. Obama will truly feel quite the same listening to Herbie.I must say with all affection that he likes to talk and expound as much asJoni and every sentence is a gem. Personally, I felt like I was listening toevery lesson and word of wisdom ever imparted to me by my father. It maysound weird, but it was very affirming to hear a great like Herbie say so muchof what my dad always said to me over the years, be it the true value of lifeor creativity. A few sound bites from Herbie - success is not measured byfame, celebrity, wealth or power but by how much you give, how much youencourage and by your compassion. He also said that other human beings arenever the enemy - that only you can be the enemy and you have to "wake up"from that. Sonya came back on and sang a very jazzy rendition of All I Want. Yes, I wasjust pinching myself at this point. Herbie also performed Watermelon Man, Cantaloupe and his mindblowing MaidenVoyage - right up there at the top of the most beautiful classical jazzcomposition you will ever hear. As an encore he brought in artist C Minus toplay the turntable to Rockit. Lesli and I talked by cell phone all the way home just ranting and raving.You all can see it yourself on Yahoo on April 1st! Kakki, the most Lucky Girl _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:44:35 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Slight Joni Content; Stephen Stills Content HBO special "Autism: the Musical": LOS ANGELES ON a recent afternoon Elaine Hall, a petite acting coach, sat on the floor of the bare-bones rec room at Vista Del Mar Child and Family Services and guided a half-dozen kids with autism through a finger-pointing, call-and-response game called Zip Zap. Then came a group singalong as the children crooned "Our circle is ready to start/Come share ideas, come share your heart" over and over. Before long Josh, Zoey, Shira and their friends were bunny-hopping across the room and improvising wild solo jigs to giddy applause. This is the Miracle Project, subject of the documentary "Autism: The Musical," which has its debut Tuesday on HBO . It chronicles the 2005-6 incarnation of Ms. Hall's program by tracking a rambunctious cast of children with autism - and their parents - as they prepare to put on a show. The documentary features Wyatt, 10 years old at the time of filming, who expresses uncanny insights about bullies and love; Henry, also 10, the son of the musician Stephen Stills and a fountain of knowledge about all things dinosaur; Adam, a curly-haired, 9-year old cellist; Lexi, a shy 14-year-old singer capable of performing Joni Mitchell songs with transcendent ease; and Ms. Hall's son, Neal, 12, an unpredictable blond charmer. Tricia Regan, the director of the documentary, said the project got rolling four years ago when her friend Janet Grillo, the mother of an autistic boy, asked for advice. "She and other parents wanted to make a film that reached beyond the autism community and expressed to the world how great their kids are. Story continues : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/arts/television/23hart.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Sheila Weller's "Girls Like Us" blog http://tinyurl.com/2n6fr6 If you want to communicate with the author or just read more about the upcoming book. Bob NP: Marc Cohn, "Turn On Your Radio" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:45:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Sheila Weller's "Girls Like Us" blog Thanks Bob for the link. After reading that article (from a link someone kindly posted) I find myself VERY interested in this book. -M Bob Muller wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2n6fr6 If you want to communicate with the author or just read more about the upcoming book. Bob NP: Marc Cohn, "Turn On Your Radio" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:45:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Happy Easter From Bo Hello to everyone! I've been missing for a few months...from everyone..myself included...missing in these creepy reflections of past actions and the prices paid....you know what I mean...the "what ifs". I feel almost estranged from the Digest, although I definitely feel a terrible void...another loss. And so, here I am...Easter night. I read the Digest this morning...Easter Morning...actually, afternoon. Realized how much I miss you...and many thanks to all who turned us on to great articles. Lots of new names and new perspectives. Welcome! Many postings that are written so beautifully as the writer works through many feelings or an event in his or her life. Just wanted to wish you all a Happy Easter weekend! Life feels surrealistic to me...trying hard to emerge from a place, never named, that my dark, dark ladder can leave me in to rot. No transition....just Welcome to all who joined our family........ And Patti...sooooo great to read your postings again...your dream!!!! Wowee! And so to all JMDLER's that I've been so fortunate to know as friends, and to all possible new friends, I wish you peace...inner-peace and peace throughout our planet. I can't get my mind around China accusing the Dalai Lama of stoking Tibetan unrest to sabotage the Beijing Olympics...it's being unable to really climb up the ladder from sandy, gritty darkness to take a wee look into the light, only to read such crap, that keeps me retreating to the safety under the covers, safe from the sunlight and waiting for the night...the safety of darkness...know what I mean? I think about Joni and what she must feel as she works through the events in her life using her extraordinary and multiple talents. Every song she writes and sometimes puts to haunting melodies allows her to free herself from the chains of hurt...of anger...of love gone wrong and I think she might know closure...then her path is free and clear to welcome another adventure. Joni's translation of her perspective on her life, our planet, events that have knocked off our collective socks ....Joni realizes the connecting dots and begins with a new, perfectly blank page....a perfectly blank opportunity to start a new adventure that she then translates through the poetry of her words; the images, the colors, the textures that bring to closure a feeling, an event, culminating in yet another magnificent painting. There is absolutely not one soul who even suggests a similarity to Joni. That's how I feel, anyway. And I've been thinking...I really don't want to meet Joni...as overwhelming a moment as that may be...it would only be a snap-shot. I wish upon many stars that one day I could be with Joni...in her private world....and then I think she is so intensely private...what is the flow of her every day life? And I wonder if she really knows or cares about the power she has to unify people...to provide just the perfect spark for a new friendship. Joni's most incredible power is that she shares her many talents with the souls of our world, inviting each of us who are fortunate enough to know her work, to allow ourselves to go to the places that she invites us to explore....our inner-personal feelings. She freely shares her magic that we can then experience and maybe come to some conclusion in our own lives. Or, sometimes Joni is just so on target that she expresses something intensely personal within us with perfect precision...and we claim our personal closure with her magic. I'm probably not making very much sense...I feel as though I'm having difficulty expressing what I feel...what I think...I do want to share with you that the article about Joni and Carly and Carol and others disturbed me. I don't want an article about Joni to include any other public figure. There is not a human being in the world that can ring true in an article that is sacred in loyalty to Joni. There simply are no comparisons...not for me at least. And I really love Carol King and Carly Simon and so many artists....but not in the same sanctuary with Joni. Joni has the ability to reach deeply within our souls...she invites us and almost provides a challenge to us to explore and bring to conclusion something that has happened in our lives. Oh my...I'm rambling Rose here, aren't I? And so I'll hope that each of you has enjoyed something extra special in your lives today. With love and hugs from Bo - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:45:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Happy Easter From Bo Hello to everyone! I've been missing for a few months...from everyone..myself included...missing in these creepy reflections of past actions and the prices paid....you know what I mean...the "what ifs". I feel almost estranged from the Digest, although I definitely feel a terrible void...another loss. And so, here I am...Easter night. I read the Digest this morning...Easter Morning...actually, afternoon. Realized how much I miss you...and many thanks to all who turned us on to great articles. Lots of new names and new perspectives. Welcome! Many postings that are written so beautifully as the writer works through many feelings or an event in his or her life. Just wanted to wish you all a Happy Easter weekend! Life feels surrealistic to me...trying hard to emerge from a place, never named, that my dark, dark ladder can leave me in to rot. No transition....just Welcome to all who joined our family........ And Patti...sooooo great to read your postings again...your dream!!!! Wowee! And so to all JMDLER's that I've been so fortunate to know as friends, and to all possible new friends, I wish you peace...inner-peace and peace throughout our planet. I can't get my mind around China accusing the Dalai Lama of stoking Tibetan unrest to sabotage the Beijing Olympics...it's being unable to really climb up the ladder from sandy, gritty darkness to take a wee look into the light, only to read such crap, that keeps me retreating to the safety under the covers, safe from the sunlight and waiting for the night...the safety of darkness...know what I mean? I think about Joni and what she must feel as she works through the events in her life using her extraordinary and multiple talents. Every song she writes and sometimes puts to haunting melodies allows her to free herself from the chains of hurt...of anger...of love gone wrong and I think she might know closure...then her path is free and clear to welcome another adventure. Joni's translation of her perspective on her life, our planet, events that have knocked off our collective socks ....Joni realizes the connecting dots and begins with a new, perfectly blank page....a perfectly blank opportunity to start a new adventure that she then translates through the poetry of her words; the images, the colors, the textures that bring to closure a feeling, an event, culminating in yet another magnificent painting. There is absolutely not one soul who even suggests a similarity to Joni. That's how I feel, anyway. And I've been thinking...I really don't want to meet Joni...as overwhelming a moment as that may be...it would only be a snap-shot. I wish upon many stars that one day I could be with Joni...in her private world....and then I think she is so intensely private...what is the flow of her every day life? And I wonder if she really knows or cares about the power she has to unify people...to provide just the perfect spark for a new friendship. Joni's most incredible power is that she shares her many talents with the souls of our world, inviting each of us who are fortunate enough to know her work, to allow ourselves to go to the places that she invites us to explore....our inner-personal feelings. She freely shares her magic that we can then experience and maybe come to some conclusion in our own lives. Or, sometimes Joni is just so on target that she expresses something intensely personal within us with perfect precision...and we claim our personal closure with her magic. I'm probably not making very much sense...I feel as though I'm having difficulty expressing what I feel...what I think...I do want to share with you that the article about Joni and Carly and Carol and others disturbed me. I don't want an article about Joni to include any other public figure. There is not a human being in the world that can ring true in an article that is sacred in loyalty to Joni. There simply are no comparisons...not for me at least. And I really love Carol King and Carly Simon and so many artists....but not in the same sanctuary with Joni. Joni has the ability to reach deeply within our souls...she invites us and almost provides a challenge to us to explore and bring to conclusion something that has happened in our lives. Oh my...I'm rambling Rose here, aren't I? And so I'll hope that each of you has enjoyed something extra special in your lives today. With love and hugs from Bo - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:40:47 -0400 From: "Vince Lavieri" Subject: 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq It has just been announced that the death toll has reached 4,000 Americans and how many tens or hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and for no reason on earth other than than philosophic demands of right wingers Vince Breaking News Alert > The New York Times > Sunday, March 23, 2008 -- 10:27 PM ET > ----- > > 4 Soldiers Killed in Baghdad, Pushing A.P. Count to 4,000 Killed in Iraq > > The U.S. military said four American soldiers were killed by > a bomb in Baghdad, raising The Associated Press's count of > the U.S. death toll in the war to at least 4,000. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:58:55 -0400 From: "Vince Lavieri" Subject: sorry forgot the njc on my last post my apoliogies Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:04:25 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq Feel any safer?????? 4000 Americans dead over a dick-waving or pissing contest. Bin Laden must be laughing his ass off. 4000 dead, many more wounded, hated around the world, dollar is falling and the economy is in the shitter. But we're winning right? And oh yeah! as Dylan said "God is on our side." I'm not against wars----just the Iraq war. gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vince Lavieri" To: "Joni people!" Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq > It has just been announced that the death toll has reached 4,000 Americans > > and how many tens or hundreds of thousands of Iraqis > > and for no reason on earth other than than philosophic demands of right > wingers > > Vince > > Breaking News Alert >> The New York Times >> Sunday, March 23, 2008 -- 10:27 PM ET >> ----- >> >> 4 Soldiers Killed in Baghdad, Pushing A.P. Count to 4,000 Killed in Iraq >> >> The U.S. military said four American soldiers were killed by >> a bomb in Baghdad, raising The Associated Press's count of >> the U.S. death toll in the war to at least 4,000. > > !DSPAM:144,47e71775214221759935082! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:05:24 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: sorry i'm sorry---i forgot the NJC tag. just got a little emotional won't happen again. gene ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #497 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)