From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #489 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, March 16 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 489 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Retro Covers, Volume 24 [Bob Muller ] Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... ["Mark L. Levinson" ] Re: photos from the new book [Catherine McKay ] RE: photos from the new book ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... [Coleen ] Re: Photos from the new book, and Cohen, and stuff [David Eoll ] Re: defending Madonna, SJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: defending Madonna, SJC [Rian Afriadi ] Re: defending Madonna, SJC ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... ["Miguel Arrondo" Subject: Retro Covers, Volume 24 Beware the Ides of March? I think not....rather, the Ides of March can be your vehicle, baby, to take you anywhere you wanna go...as long as your destination is Joni covers! Here's another blast from the past - some names you know and some you don't but all performing songs you know by HEART. http://download.yousendit.com/AA9F7F577CE3D93C The Lineup for Volume 24: 1. Bruce Anthony - The Jungle Line 2. Bruce Anthony - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines 3. Bruce Anthony - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 4. Keb' Mo' - Big Yellow Taxi 5. Thom MacFarlane - Edith and the Kingpin 6. Shawn Colvin - Free Man In Paris (Live) 7. Don Henley - River (Live) 8. The Lilac Time - Big Yellow Taxi 9. Hal Frazier - Both Sides Now 10. Milan & Bibiloni - The Circle Game 11. Sue Medley - Raised On Robbery (Live) 12. Akiko Pavolka - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 13. Akiko Pavolka - Amelia 14. The Newcomers - Both Sides Now 15. Lonnie Knight - For Free 16. Walt Barr - Chelsea Morning 17. Keith Jarrett - All I Want 18. Louis van Dyke/Rogier van Otterloo - Both Sides Now Et tu, JMDLer's....the link is good for 2 weeks and 200 downloads. Bob NP: Ani, "Anyday" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:59:03 +0200 From: "Mark L. Levinson" Subject: Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna in a way. When you listen to their music, you're listening to great arrangements and production work that prop up a flimsy, undeveloped talent for musical composition. Both are using music to leverage their gifts from other fields-- Cohen from poetry and Madonna from dance and design. - --------------------------------------- Mark L. Levinson - Herzliya, Israel - ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: photos from the new book Catherine wrote: To me, every picture I've seen of Larry Klein looks completely different from any other picture I've seen of him, such that I really don't think I know what he looks like! Hi Catherine, I've always thought in his younger days he looked like Lionel Ritchie. When I first bought WTRF, I thought he was Lionel. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:38:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: photos from the new book - --- Laura Stanley wrote: > I've always thought in his younger days [Larry Klein] looked > like Lionel Ritchie. When I first bought WTRF, I > thought he was Lionel. > I never thought about that before but, now that you mention it, in the Joni paintings on WTRF, he certainly does! Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:59:21 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: photos from the new book That's not Lionel Richie???!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:39 AM To: sweetbirdur@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: photos from the new book - --- Laura Stanley wrote: > I've always thought in his younger days [Larry Klein] looked > like Lionel Ritchie. When I first bought WTRF, I > thought he was Lionel. > I never thought about that before but, now that you mention it, in the Joni paintings on WTRF, he certainly does! Catherine - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:15:56 -0400 From: Coleen Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... On 15-Mar-08, at 8:59 AM, Mark L. Levinson wrote: > Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna in a way. > When you listen to their music, you're listening > to great arrangements and production work that > prop up a flimsy, undeveloped talent for musical > composition. Both are using music to leverage > their gifts from other fields-- Cohen from poetry > and Madonna from dance and design. > > "a flimsy, undeveloped talent for musical composition"?? Madonna, yes but Leonard Cohen?! Perhaps you're only familiar with Cohen's own recordings; I admit his voice can be off-putting to many. Have you heard Jennifer Warnes incredible 1987 album of Cohen covers "Famous Blue Raincoat"? The 20th anniversary edition is available now and it's even better than the original recording (I wouldn't have believed that was possible). I admit that Canadians can be a little biased where Mr. Cohen is concerned, but even my Texan husband thinks that album is brilliant - and he previously claimed to hate Leonard Cohen! Also, give a listen to Jeff Buckley's transcendent version of Hallelujah. I think one of the indicators of a great songwriter is whether they're covered by other performers. I don't know of any covers of Madonna songs, do you? Coleen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:12:21 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: Photos from the new book, and Cohen, and stuff Mark Scott wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" > >> I admit that I bought Carly's "Playing Possum" just for the pictures Most of her records would be worth the asking price just for the pictures. Very attractive lady was she. >> Oh those lips. And I read the Vanity Fair excerpt last night - I won't >> tell any spoilers but there's a lot of stuff there I didn't know - >> fascinating. Just whetted my appetite for the book all the more. > > > That's how the VF article is affecting me. There are nice healthy-sized > chunks from the book about each woman. Just enough to make you want > more. And the material about Joni is not the same material that was in > the excerpt that somebody posted to the list. I just noticed that one of the pictures featured in the VF article of Joni and Cros: http://tinyurl.com/2zuy8k is from the same set as one of the Henry Diltz photos that a list member turned me on to. EC and some other very young person were also present: http://tinyurl.com/2lzztn Uh, Dave, y'think you could keep that stuff away from the kids? Thx. Check out how the kid is grooving on Joni's playing. Everyone was smitten with Joni. Everyone. Peace, David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) From: rian afriadi Subject: defending Madonna, SJC ah come on. madonna's not that bad! she does rock the rock & roll music scene. this world would be boring without her. her key records that make her deserve this hall of fame induction: (IMO) 1. Like A Prayer 2. Immacullate Collection 3. True Blue 4. Ray of Light 5. Music 6. Confessions on A Dance Floor. well, and, to be frankly, if we look back at the music history 1960-present, history says that madonna rocks the music industry harder than lots of the already-inducted-musicians, say : sex pistol, prince, or even our joni mitchell. joni's music is smarter and higher in quality than madonna's. but, there is something that madonna does better than joni. you know that something, don't you? rian np. radiohead - how to dissapear completely from Kid A (ummm... Kid A contains lots of suicide-trigger-songs, IMO. am i correct?) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:32:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: defending Madonna, SJC Alright, Rian, you spurred on a few questions from me. What exactly do you mean by "rocks the music industry harder" than other musicians, including Joni? More controversial? (Although the Sex Pistols were very, very controversial in their day and remain famous even though they only let out one album). More successful? As for that something does better than Joni, I can only think of one thing. Perhaps better PR? I can't think of anything else honestly. I say better PR because when Madonna was really popular, I remember (even as a child) her being EVERYWHERE whereas Joni keeps a lower profile. However, I wouldn't qualify good PR as a qualification to be inducted into any hall of fame. Now I had said I wouldn't put Madonna in the R&R Hall of Fame but a general music hall of fame, as she isn't rock. However, I always respect someone much more who writes their own songs. That is a gift yes, but very much a craft as well. Since we're discussing Madonna, isn't Madonna someone who said she was influenced by Joni (among others of course)? Did she say that or should I pass the crack bong along? -Monika rian afriadi wrote: well, and, to be frankly, if we look back at the music history 1960-present, history says that madonna rocks the music industry harder than lots of the already-inducted-musicians, say : sex pistol, prince, or even our joni mitchell. joni's music is smarter and higher in quality than madonna's. but, there is something that madonna does better than joni. you know that something, don't you? rian np. radiohead - how to dissapear completely from Kid A (ummm... Kid A contains lots of suicide-trigger-songs, IMO. am i correct?) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: defending Madonna, SJC [TABLE NOT SHOWN] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:43:30 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: defending Madonna, SJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "rian afriadi" > but, there is something that madonna does better than joni. > you know that something, don't you? > Make a spectacle of herself? Joni once said Madonna looked like a hard hooker. I wouldn't disagree with that. Sorry, Rian. Like I said, it may not be logical or nice, but I just don't like Madonna. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:54:04 -0300 From: "Miguel Arrondo" Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen does resemble Madonna... I've read strange things in these digest before, but... comparing Leonard Cohen with Madonna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some of you may have choosen the wrong pills for the few last days. In the original words of a talented countryman of mine: "?Qui tiene que ver el culo con la timpera?" Saludos, Miguel ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #489 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)