From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #488 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 15 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 488 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Hejira Warning [Michael Flaherty ] RE: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna) [anon anon ] Re: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna) [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Girls Like Us reviews [Patti Parlette ] Re: Hejira Warning [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Photos from the new book [Patti Parlette ] FW: Photos from the new book ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Photos from the new book [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Photos from the new book [Catherine McKay ] Joni Covers, Volume 98 - information and opinions [Stewart.Simon@sunlif] Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour [Patti Parlette ] Subject: Re: Joni's Voice [seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour [Michael Flaherty ] RE: Photos from the new book [dsknyc05 ] Re: Never saw this discussed here: Joni & percussion [David Eoll ] Re: Photos from the new book ["Mark Scott" ] Re: photos from the book [Laura Stanley ] Re: Photos in the Book [JOSEPHBMCGOWAN@aol.com] Re: photos from the book [Bob Muller ] Re: Hejira Warning ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: Photos from the new book [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Hejira Warning [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Photos from the new book [Catherine McKay ] no country for old men/hejira warning ["gene" ] Re:hejira warning [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Photos from the new book [dsknyc05 ] Hejira Warning [Robert Procyk ] Hejira warning ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: Misc Music News now sjc [Sherelle Smith ] Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour [David Eoll Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour > I just can't help it. I cannot take an organization seriously that > honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows > the same honor on....Madonna > Mark in Seattle I hear ya, still, it was one of the high points* of the night when Leonard recited some of the verses to the great "Tower of Song", after which Damien Rice delivered a lovely solo rendition of "Halleluah". Also funny when Cohen recalled the Rolling Stone writer who wrote "I have seen the future of rock and roll, and it's not Leonard Cohen". Madonna is to rock and roll as Steven Hawking is to pole vaulting. I do think she is a genuis...of self promotion. And I do enjoy some of her recordings, despite all that. RR *also, The Ventures' 2 song set, Mellencamp's 3 songs. The rest, a masochist's dream, 4 hours of too many long-winded speeches, esp. Tom Hanks' overcooked homage to the inconsequential Dave Clark Five, and Justin Timberlake's self-impressed intro to Madonna's ode to self. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:46:46 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna) > From: "Mark Scott" > Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link > I cannot take an organization seriously that > honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows > the same honor on....Madonna. > > You know, Mark, it's funny... my last post was about Joni's voice. Now, I'm not a big Cohen fan (another voice I just don't like) OR a Madonna fan (not into that pretentous thing), but I respect Cohen as a great songwriter and Madonna as a great singer. Kenny B ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:39:28 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Hejira Warning Perhaps some of you will remember my mentioning giving my copy of Hejira to a friend as a gift last week. Well, I followed up with her this week to see what she thought of it, and she said that she was afraid to listen to it now as there was TOO MUCH PRESSURE on it (I told her when I gave it to her that it's the greatest album ever recorded). Just a word of warning to those of you who gift Hejira in the future...learn from my mistake. When you give someone Hejira, DO NOT tell them that it is the greatest album ever recorded, instead just say one of the following: 1. I bought this at a yard sale and it made me think of you. 2. Here's a CD that I think you might like - I think it's pretty good (note: practice this one a couple of times so you can say it with a straight face) 3. Happy Birthday - don't know if you already have this one or not. 4. I bought this for you because it has such an interesting title. 5. I know you like good photography so I thought you'd appreciate this album cover - I only hope the music on the disc is as good. 6. When I saw the beret I thought it was a Rickie Lee Jones CD - since it's not, I don't need it, you can have it. In so doing you can hopefully avoid the pitfall that I put on the situation. Bob, always up for performing a public service NP: Joni, "I Had A king" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Hejira Warning yeah, just let it sneak on in the back door.... all subtle-like.... keep it light..keep it light... :D it needs to sort of infect their brain. Like Mad Cow, but in a goooood way. Em - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Just a word of warning to those of you who gift Hejira in the > future...learn from my mistake. When you give someone Hejira, DO NOT > tell > them that it is the greatest album ever recorded, instead just say > one of > the following: > > 1. I bought this at a yard sale and it made me think of you. > 2. Here's a CD that I think you might like - I think it's pretty good > > (note: practice this one a couple of times so you can say it with a > straight face) > 3. Happy Birthday - don't know if you already have this one or not. > 4. I bought this for you because it has such an interesting title. > 5. I know you like good photography so I thought you'd appreciate > this > album cover - I only hope the music on the disc is as good. > 6. When I saw the beret I thought it was a Rickie Lee Jones CD - > since > it's not, I don't need it, you can have it. > > In so doing you can hopefully avoid the pitfall that I put on the > situation. > > Bob, always up for performing a public service ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Hejira Warning >>>1. I bought this at a yard sale and it made me think of you. I don't know, Bob. Considering some of the lyrics, I'd be careful who I said this to. ;) Michael F. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:00:05 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: RE: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna) > From: PassScribe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:46:46 -0400> Subject: Re: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna)> To: joni@smoe.org> > > From: "Mark Scott" > > Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link> > I cannot take an organization seriously that> > honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows> > the same honor on....Madonna.> >> >> You know, Mark, it's funny... my last post was about Joni's voice. Now,> I'm not a big Cohen fan (another voice I just don't like) OR a Madonna fan> (not into that pretentous thing), but I respect Cohen as a great songwriter> and> Madonna as a great singer.> > Kenny B> I love Leonard Cohen's songwriting AND his voice... Is it a technically great voice? no, of course not. But, as Robert Christgau pointed out long ago, it is the "most intimate voice in popular music". It ls pleasing to the ear, and able to cut to the bone, more then conventionally "pretty" voices can. Madonna sung a few fairly decent songs, but it is a shame that she has maybe 1% of the talent that Leonard has, and is about 1000 times better paid and well known... _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: More Voices (Cohen & Madonna) Well I think an organization called "The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" has some questionable entries. If I was in charge, I wouldn't put half of the people who have been inducted in there since they are clearly not "rock." I can understand branches of rock--folk rock, prog rock, classic rock, etc etc but some of the bands/artists in it are just silly. I think if the Rock Hall was the Music Hall of Fame, I'd put Madonna in just for her success as an entertainer and determination to succeed. She's much more an entertainer than anything else whereas Cohen is a songwriter. -M, not a Madonna fan and not too familiar with Leonard Cohen's work PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > From: "Mark Scott" > Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link > I cannot take an organization seriously that > honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows > the same honor on....Madonna. > > You know, Mark, it's funny... my last post was about Joni's voice. Now, I'm not a big Cohen fan (another voice I just don't like) OR a Madonna fan (not into that pretentous thing), but I respect Cohen as a great songwriter and Madonna as a great singer. Kenny B ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Hejira Warning Good one Bob. You scared her off! But if I were Joni, I'd hire you as my PR/Press person. -M Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Perhaps some of you will remember my mentioning giving my copy of Hejira to a friend as a gift last week. Well, I followed up with her this week to see what she thought of it, and she said that she was afraid to listen to it now as there was TOO MUCH PRESSURE on it (I told her when I gave it to her that it's the greatest album ever recorded). Just a word of warning to those of you who gift Hejira in the future...learn from my mistake. When you give someone Hejira, DO NOT tell them that it is the greatest album ever recorded, instead just say one of the following: 1. I bought this at a yard sale and it made me think of you. 2. Here's a CD that I think you might like - I think it's pretty good (note: practice this one a couple of times so you can say it with a straight face) 3. Happy Birthday - don't know if you already have this one or not. 4. I bought this for you because it has such an interesting title. 5. I know you like good photography so I thought you'd appreciate this album cover - I only hope the music on the disc is as good. 6. When I saw the beret I thought it was a Rickie Lee Jones CD - since it's not, I don't need it, you can have it. In so doing you can hopefully avoid the pitfall that I put on the situation. Bob, always up for performing a public service NP: Joni, "I Had A king" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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It's filled with nuggets I hadn't known about, and this generation of women is my subject! If you love the singers and the songs, you'll tear through Girls Like Us." - -- Sara Davidson, bestselling author of Loose Change: Three Women of the Sixties and Leap!: What Will We Do with the Rest of Our Lives? " ANTICIPATION!!!! Love, Patti P., with a mighty mighty thirst to read this book _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:49:37 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Hejira Warning You wouldn't be saying that if you were here when Travelogue came out, or when she was putting out compilations every other month. I wasn't a very good Joni PR person then. 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Hot hot blazes, come down in smoke and ash. xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:19:59 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: FW: Photos from the new book - -----Original Message----- From: Richard Flynn [mailto:rflynn@frontiernet.net] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:18 PM To: 'Patti Parlette' Subject: RE: Photos from the new book Chuck Mitchell in #5 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Patti Parlette Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:03 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Photos from the new book Underneath the picture of the book, there are five photographs, four of which I have never seen before. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Girls-like-Us/Sheila-Weller/e/9780743491471 /?itm=2 Who's the man with Joni in picture #5? And look at Carly and JT. Ooh la la! Think that was their honeymoon? Hot ginger and dynamite! Looks like he might burn her hair with that cigarette, though. Hot hot blazes, come down in smoke and ash. xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:34:15 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Photos from the new book That would be your basic Chuck Mitchell - they're probably in the tenement castle. I am also excited about this book. Bob NP: Amy Correia, "Chinatown" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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It does say who's who in the pictures, although it's not as obvious in some as in others. If those pics are in the book, that alone might be worth the price. I love the one of Carly as an 8-yr-old with a missing tooth. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:44:54 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 98 - information and opinions 16. Vanessa Jackman - Hejira: This is an unreleased live performance in a small Paris cabaret, just Vanessa's jazz vocals and an electric guitar, nearly 11 minutes long and I don't mind a bit. The guitarist steps up and does some fine soloing. A nice way to close out the CD, I thought. I discovered this gem on youtube a few years back - I have no idea who Vanessa Jackman is but this version of Hejira in the little Paris Cabaret is absolutely worth investing the 11 minutes to watch.....I'd love to hear other opinions. http://youtube.com/watch?v=DeAboND09f0 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:13:44 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour Mark in Seattle wrote: I just can't help it. I cannot take an organization seriously that honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows the same honor on....Madonna. Personally, I think Joni was right on when she skipped that particular 'honor' at the time she was inducted. **** I think Leonard agrees with you, Mark. I caught one of those scrolling newsbanners on CNN yesterday that quoted him: "I have seen the future of rock and roll and it is not Leonard Cohen." Ha ha. My first introduction to Leonard Cohen -- like many of us, I daresay -- was Judy Collins' 1967 Wildflowers. I loved Sisters of Mercy (it's npimh). And then of course, Joni's BSN and Michael From Mountains. Wow, did I ever play that album over and over again on my little blue plastic record player in my room with the hot pink and orange daisies all over the place. And so it began....Meet the Joni! (As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, amen!) Love, Patti P. P.S. Just went you-tubing for Sisters of Mercy. Couldn't find that but found another gem: Graham interviewing Judy and then Steven comes out to play. Sweet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzDvY10Fkw&feature=related _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:23:27 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: Photos from the new book > That's Chuck. It does say who's who in the pictures, > although it's not as obvious in some as in others. If > those pics are in the book, that alone might be worth > the price. I love the one of Carly as an 8-yr-old with > a missing tooth. > Thanks, everyJonibody. Chuck. But of course! Et merci, CoT. I did not see the captions at first. (Weak and a lazy mind did not scroll down.) And "tenement castle" -- LOL Bob! Sitting there with their reel to reel... xo, pp P.S. Look, Ma! No politics! _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:48 -0400 From: seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Subject: Re: Joni's Voice Monika Bogdanowicz motitan75@yahoo.com> ?Subject: Joni's singing ? >> That being said, would you consider Joni to be one of the greatest female vocalists ?? >> ? Yes, as of 1998 to the present. ? ?- Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour >>I think Leonard agrees with you, Mark. I caught one of those scrolling newsbanners on CNN yesterday that quoted him: "I have seen the future of rock and roll and it is not Leonard Cohen." Ha ha. Just for the record, Leonard was quoting an early bad review. That said, I don't take the Hall of Fame seriously at all, although one day when I found myself with free time in Cleveland, I went to the museum itself and it was a lot of fun (in an amusement park sort of way). Michael Flaherty ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:58:28 -0700 (PDT) From: dsknyc05 Subject: RE: Photos from the new book - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Thanks, everyJonibody. Chuck. But of course! > > ... And > "tenement castle" -- LOL Bob! > Sitting there with their reel to reel... Yes, Joni and her king in their tenement castle in Chelsea NYC. The neighborhood still has some of those old apartments -- not much floor space, tall ceilings and big huge windows with wooden frames that rattle in the winter from the wind coming through. Brrr! Such tenement buildings are five floors tall (any taller and building code requires an elevator). Higher the floor, cheaper the rent. So Joni and Chuck probably walked up at least four long narrow flights of stairs to get home. Lots of sunlight could come in through those big windows on the higher floors. On a happy day, it would be like butterscotch. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:08:15 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: Never saw this discussed here: Joni & percussion > From: "Vince Lavieri" > Subject: Never saw this discussed here: Joni & percussion > > I have never seen a discussion - there could have been one that I > missed - on Joni and percussion. > > Driving on a lengthy car trip the other day Hana snuck up on me off of > Shine and I pondered anew Joni's use of percussion - other than The > Jungle Line which everyone thinks of when referring to Joni and > percussion - Actually, the first thing I thought of was Side 3 of DJRD. That's starting about halfway through the CD for those of you that are vinylly-challenged. Actually, even CDs are becoming passe these days, aren't they? Aw, hell, its on your iPod somewhere, go find it yourself. Tenth World is obviously Latin/Carribean, and Dreamland has some kind of... oh, ethnically tinged rhythm. I'm not a percussionist, so I don't know. A really interesting, and subtler, use of percussion, also from Side 3, is Otis and Marlena. There's a little snare drum flourish during the "as muslims stick up Washington" lines. Peace, David Eoll ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 03:20:18 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: Never saw this discussed here: Joni & percussion Vince asks~ >>I have never seen a discussion - there could have been one that I missed - on Joni and percussion. Driving on a lengthy car trip the other day Hana snuck up on me off of Shine and I pondered anew Joni's use of percussion - other than The Jungle Line which everyone thinks of when referring to Joni and percussion - she often uses percussion in the most intriguing ways - I thought maybe the musicians who know much much more than I might have some comments on Joni's use of percussion<< O Vince Her use of percussion is perhaps the main reason i LOVE Joni most! She has said that it wasn't until DJRD/Mingus that she found a band capable of playing her music (see MOJO 01-08). The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey was when i first began to fathom her brilliance as a percussionist (on the guitar no less). & i hear that song echoed in If. HANA is Weather Reportesque & i adore it but the entire SHINE is likewise brimming with incredible syncopations & undulations NEVER HEARD BEFORE from anyone. Our Joni is completely unique which is sadly why most people don't get the breadth of her music. my partner is always asking "where is the melody?" Joni often play the piano & guitar like a base drum, sometimes out of tune (which i adore the most, like Mingus). Slouching Toward Bethlehem is my favorite example. O people, do any of us truly realize what a consummate artist Joni is? Leonardo daVinci was the last genius with such broad scope that our sad world has encountered. It makes me feel SO grateful just to be alive to witness it. O & Bad Dreams Are Good is, for lack of a better term, AWESOME!!! Representing the post-Hissing fans ET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:43:05 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Photos from the new book Actually, I believe that particular photo was taken in the "tenement castle" that Joni and Chuck rented in Detroit (see the "Detroit News" caption at the far right of the photo.) when they lived in the area. The building still stands and was the subject of an article that appeared a few years ago in a Detroit newspaper called "Joni Doesn't Live Here Anymore." It can be found here: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=647 Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit dsknyc05 wrote: >--- Patti Parlette wrote: > > > >>Thanks, everyJonibody. Chuck. But of course! >> >>... And >>"tenement castle" -- LOL Bob! >>Sitting there with their reel to reel... >> >> > >Yes, Joni and her king in their tenement castle in >Chelsea NYC. The neighborhood still has some of those >old apartments -- not much floor space, tall ceilings >and big huge windows with wooden frames that rattle in >the winter from the wind coming through. Brrr! Such >tenement buildings are five floors tall (any taller >and building code requires an elevator). Higher the >floor, cheaper the rent. So Joni and Chuck probably >walked up at least four long narrow flights of stairs >to get home. Lots of sunlight could come in through >those big windows on the higher floors. On a happy >day, it would be like butterscotch. > >Debra Shea > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >Looking for last minute shopping deals? >Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:21:45 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Photos from the new book - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" If > those pics are in the book, that alone might be worth > the price. The photos in the Vanity Fair excerpt are enough to make me salivate. In high school I bought the single 'It's Too Late' and then the album 'Tapestry'. I became enamored of Carole. Later in my freshman year of college I got hooked by 'You're So Vain' and bought 'No Secrets'. The first 2 Carly Simon albums were soon added to my record collection and I became a fan, anxiously awaiting her next release. Then somewhere, sometime, about a year or two later I bought 'Court and Spark'. It totally blew everything the other two did out of the water. I lost interest in Carole's output after 'Fantasy'. I still admire her as one of the greats, though. I have stayed pretty loyal to Carly over the years although her last couple of releases seem to lack energy or passion or something. But there is no-one that I feel the same way I feel about Joni. To this day if I open my mouth to sing a song to myself (which many of my close friends can tell you is a frequent occurrence - just ask Travis) it is more likely than not a Joni Mitchell song that comes out. After all is said and done, seeing the three separate photos of each of these women at the beginning of the VF article brought a tear or two to my eye. Such beauty, so much wonderful music and so many memories. It all comes welling up into my sentimentally influenced tear ducts. Some of the content borders on being a bit too gossipy for my taste (quotes from one-time 'lovers', etc.) but overall it is well-written. Judging by what I have read so far, anyway, reading during my Star Track time at the gym on Mon-Wed-Fri. I will hopefully finish the article tomorrow night. I think I will probably have to buy this book. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:26:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: photos from the book Bob posted: That would be your basic Chuck Mitchell - they're probably in the tenement castle. Hi Bob, You got me curious about the photos by identifying Chuck in one. Great photo! It makes me think he is the cutest one out of all of Joni's passions. I am intrigued with him now as I listen to his album Dreams and Stories. I woke up with The Bilboa Song playing in my mind. He and Arlo Guthrie have a similar style and sound on some songs. His rendition of the song Stackerlee reminds me of Dylan's song The Ballad of Frankee Lee and Judas Priest. My favorite song on the album is his very own Look Out Girl. Joni picked a very talented one for sure. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:19:22 EDT From: JOSEPHBMCGOWAN@aol.com Subject: Re: Photos in the Book The Chuck and Joni Photo Shows them Learning an Unrecorded Gordon Lightfoot Tune " When Spring was O're the Land". This is the First Song Joni would ever Record in a Studio. Perhaps my Favorite Item among my Collectibles is the Actually Sheet music in this Photo that Lightfoot had Giving to Chuck in 1966. Joey, **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:09:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: photos from the book And so did he. And I'm thinking he's probably not such a bad guy, I hope he gets the chance to tell his story sometime - I'll bet it contrasts a bit with the opinions we have of him based on what we've heard from Joni. Bob, who feels guilty to be surrounded by such unbelievably gorgeous weather today - no moody skies to be seen. NP: The Heartless Bastards, "No Pointing Arrows" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:54:06 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Re: Hejira Warning My policy is to keep my mouth shut because everyone knows what a freak I am about her. Anything I say is perceived as crazy talk. I have a brother-in-law who likes movies and anytime I suggest he watch a movie that I think is brilliant, he either doesn't watch the thing or if he does and I ask him about it (I always have to ask, "Did you watch it?") he shrugs and says, "Yeah, I guess it was okay." What a brat. It's frustrating, isn't it? Lindsay P.S. My theory on how "No Country for Old Men" became so highly acclaimed is that one perceived cognoscenti said they thought it was great and in order not to look like dopes, everyone jumped on the bandwagon. There was probably a big discussion on the list about it, but I've missed a lot of it the last few months. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Photos from the new book Now I know Larry Klein is quite a bit younger than Joni but whenever I see pictures of them together in the early 80's, he doesn't look as young as he was. In fact, she looks younger than she was at that time and he looks much older to me. They look almost the same age in the photos I see in the early 80's. Could be the facial hair maybe? Sometimes, in certain photos, he almost looks older than her (though of course he is not). -M - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:48:18 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Hejira Warning > P.S. My theory on how "No Country for Old Men" became so highly acclaimed > is that one perceived cognoscenti said they thought it was great and in > order not to look like dopes, everyone jumped on the bandwagon. There was > probably a big discussion on the list about it, but I've missed a lot of it > the last few months. I'm one who thought No Country for Old Men was a great movie, and as anyone who knows me knows, I am no jump on the bandwagon kind of guy. I thought it was half Hitchcock, half David Lynch, and all genius. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Photos from the new book - --- Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Now I know Larry Klein is quite a bit younger than > Joni but whenever I see pictures of them together in > the early 80's, he doesn't look as young as he was. > In fact, she looks younger than she was at that time > and he looks much older to me. They look almost the > same age in the photos I see in the early 80's. > Could be the facial hair maybe? Sometimes, in > certain photos, he almost looks older than her > (though of course he is not). > -M > To me, every picture I've seen of Larry Klein looks completely different from any other picture I've seen of him, such that I really don't think I know what he looks like! Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:02:39 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: no country for old men/hejira warning > P.S. My theory on how "No Country for Old Men" became so highly acclaimed > is that one perceived cognoscenti said they thought it was great and in > order not to look like dopes, everyone jumped on the bandwagon. There was > probably a big discussion on the list about it, but I've missed a lot of > it > the last few months. Thanks for your comment on the movie Lindsay. I saw it for the first time last night, and it was very disturbing. The acting, action, and suspense kept me my attention throughout the movie. But I'm an old fashion type of guy and like to see the good guys win in the end. Realistically, there are probably people like the antagonist walking our streets today. Was the message evil will always be around us and we must be vigilant at all times. That good does not always win? Boy! it was a downer. On the same line, I make some cd's of Joni and give them to friends. More often than not, the people like the music but the lyrics are too thought provoking. Too intense. They just want to be entertained and relax by music. Sorta like the "good guys always win" thought I have for movies. just my 2 cents, gene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:23:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re:hejira warning I have given only two friends Joni mixed cds or mixed cds with a few Joni songs on them---one a good friend of mine who loves Joni now and an ex boyfriend who I gave a mixed cd of music I liked when we were dating. He only responded that Joni's songs were "ok." I should have walked out right there and then! Anyhow, I always talk Joni up but when I give someone a cd, I nag them about it. I always ask, "did you listen to it yet? Did you listen to it yet?" I do so until they listen! Music is impoartant! -Monika NR: The Book Thief by Markus Zusak gene wrote: On the same line, I make some cd's of Joni and give them to friends. More often than not, the people like the music but the lyrics are too thought provoking. Too intense. They just want to be entertained and relax by music. Sorta like the "good guys always win" thought I have for movies. just my 2 cents, gene - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: dsknyc05 Subject: Re: Photos from the new book - --- Gary Z wrote: > Actually, I believe that particular photo was taken > in the "tenement > castle" that Joni and Chuck rented in Detroit ... Guess I'm homesick for my former home! Looks like NYC to me (but then lots of things do these days). Joni must have been much happier in her earlier Chelsea Morning apartment. Thanks for the corrected info, Gary. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34:03 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: Hejira Warning Oh Bob that made me laugh because I feel like some sort of door to door religion salesman when I gift Joni - I have a friend who I know would absolutely love Joni if she would only have the "Joni epipheny" listening to one of her albums. You see, she already had one of those ghastly compilations (I don't remember which one) and then she ordered Clouds. Well, call me cynical, but Clouds ain't gonna convert anybody. So then I made her buy Blue, because it was the one that rocked my world, but then when she said it was good but didn't call me in the middle of the night crying "touching souls... Joni touched mine!" I realized that perhaps Blue worked for me because I was 17 when I discovered it, and she's, well, not 17. SO, for Xmas I sent her C&S and FTR, hoping that these would work, but I've had to refrain from sending a detailed email explaining who and what all the songs are about. I figured C&S would be more up her alley since she is re ally into Tapestry, and I threw the FTR in there for the heck of it, since FTR is now, after years of resistance, probably my almost favorite Joni album (they rotate, but FTR, HOSL, and DJRD are tops for me right now). So, after all those years of wondering what was wrong with everyone who chose FTR as their favorite (Ashara, Kakki, et al), I get it now. Now if only I could get a shine for Shine.... Anyway, I haven't got much of a response about the gifts - I really want to ask, but I don't want to put the pressure on. Ah well, I guess it just shows that our work here is far from done ;) Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:09:22 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Hejira warning The other day I discovered that a long-time colleague of mine had Shine in her car! I never knew she liked Joni - we just never got to talk about her - but I knew she likes jazz. So I asked her what else she had of Joni's and she replied that Shine was the only cd, she didn't really know that much about Joni. So of course, as we were sharing a ride, I immediately recommended Hejira, which for the time being is my favourite. Now, reading about your experiences, I wonder if maybe I shouldn't have. I haven't heard from her since then so I don't know if she did buy Hejira. Maybe Mingus would have been a better choice, considering my colleague's interest in jazz (she plays the saxophone quite nicely). Then again, for the same reason, if she didn't like Mingus that would be the end of her interest in Joni. And I am just so glad I found somebody within my immediate circle of people who even knows something about Joni so I don't want to risk it. Funny how being a "Joni person" can get you into predicaments like this one, isn't it? Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:58:28 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: Misc Music News now sjc Oh Patti, That is one of my most favorite quotes! Thank you for including it! So happy to hear that Paul McCartney, Queen and Annie Lennox will be playing to honor Nelson. How wonderful! Yes, I wish Joni would go as well!!! Sherelle> From: loveuconn@hotmail.com> To: joni@smoe.org; treegreen1@hotmail.com; sherellesmith@hotmail.com> Subject: Misc Music News now sjc> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:26:01 +0000> > > These are always so interesting. Muchas gracias, amigo!> > "Paul McCartney, Annie Lennox and Queen will play London's Hyde Park on June 27 to honor Nelson Mandela on his 90th birthday. "> > Quelle synchronicity! Someone just sent me this wonderful Mandela quote this morning:> > "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others."> > (Pssssst....Joni! Hi Joni!!! You should go, too, and sing Shine for him. C'mon, Joni. You could take an ocean-liner -- you know you love to watch that green water in motion. And they'd probably let you smoke on the deck. Pack your suspenders! I'm sure that Queen Lucy or Jamie or some Jonibody would be happy to pick you up.)> > "Joan Baez' new CD is being produced by Steve Earle, who also has 3 of his songs on the disc. Expect late summer/early fall release. Says Earle: "It's a fuckin' great record, man"."> > Ooh la la! Vive l'esprit de Camp Casey. Bring it ON! (Or, in Jonispeak: I call out for it to be released!)> > In my search for peace, that don't seem to cease,> > Patti P.> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:31:09 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Re: Leonard Cohen - tix purchase link for entire tour > > >>I just can't help it. I cannot take an organization seriously that >>honors a genius like Leonard Cohen and then at the same time bestows >>the same honor on....Madonna >>Mark in Seattle My parents' generation had Leonard, Joni, Judy, et al. My generation had Madonna. Now they've got Britany. WTF is happening? > Madonna is to rock and roll as Steven Hawking is to pole vaulting. *cough*, *cough*, *sputter*... Stephen Hawking? I'll grant Madonna is not entirely devoid of talent, but Hawking is a serious freaking genius. Maybe its just me, but I don't think Madonna is the Stephen Hawking of anything. > *also, The Ventures' 2 song set, Mellencamp's 3 songs. John Mellencamp was one of the (few) bright spots of the 80s, which for the most part sucked, IMHO. Stevie Ray Vaughn was another rare gem. I remember hearing Pride and Joy for the first time on the radio, and thinking "Who is this guy, and why doesn't he suck?" And I remember my friends at the time making fun of the song, and me staring at them in disbelief, thinking "What, are you all deaf? Hate music, or something?" Going through high school was hell enough for me, but doing it in the musical doldrums of the 80s was worse. And that hair. And the clothes. And Reagan. And Mr. T. Ugh. Peace, David Eoll ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #488 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)