From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #437 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, January 23 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 437 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: From Bo ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: From Bo [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Crosby/Stills/Joni <3 [Jerry Notaro ] Fwd: STRAWBSWEBNEWS - JANUARY 2008 - JM mention ["Barbara Stewart" ] Re: From Bo [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Joni for your eyes [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Joni for your eyes ["Donna Binkley" ] RIP Suzanne [Bryan ] RE: From Bo ["Phyliss Ward" ] Cat Power performs Blue [Joseph Palis ] Re: Joni's complaints ["Mark Scott" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:18:42 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: From Bo Bo, I had the wonderful opportunity to meet her & chat with her a bit (mostly her chatting!) not too long ago, at her art opening in LA & have to say that she met, perhaps even exceeded my expectations. I think she is very much the same person in public & private (although this was in public so what do I really know?). Kate > I now have similar fears as to what might happen if I ever met Joni. I am sure Joni has a public and private persona. And, I wonder if we as a whole, imagine Joni to be what she is in her every day life. Does anyone feel the same way? Hugs to you, Bo< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:20:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: From Bo > Hi Joni-People, > Does anyone feel the same way? No. I have met all of my glorious J's (Joni, Judy, Joan, and Janis) sometime over the years and they have all been nothing but brilliant and warm. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:21:39 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Crosby/Stills/Joni <3 > Well, I suppose the looks thing is subjective. I'd say in his prime, Nash > was the best looking one, in my opinion. He had very pretty eyes, was very > thin.....and Still is, by far. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:47:17 -0500 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Fwd: STRAWBSWEBNEWS - JANUARY 2008 - JM mention I'm also on The Strawbs list - a UK band from the late 60s-70s that once had Sandy Denny as lead vocalist. They tour the US about once a year, and I've found their shows to be fantastic and original. And last year they headlined the Fairport Convention annual 3-day festival in the UK (excellent, btw!). Dave Cousins, band founder and main composer, is touring US & Canada semi-solo this spring (Mar 6 in NYC). The following newsletter has various name drops regarding the tour material and the new solo album consisting of those numbers. See the JM reference ... (and Gord Lightfoot!). If anyone plans to go to the NYC gig, contact me offlist if you wish to meet up..... Check out the website, folks! B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King >>> From: Dick Greener To:, Date: 1/22/08 8:42 AM Subject: STRAWBSWEBNEWS - JANUARY 2008 - PART 2 Hi all More January news from Strawbsweb. Not ONE but TWO new albums to tell you about this time and some Stop Press news about the March North American tour. Still some news to come about some new features on the website, but that may not be till February now owing to other pressures. DICK ==== Contents - -------- * Cousins US tour - Cutler joins for first 8 dates * Dave Cousins: Secret Paths * Best Of Strawbs (Zounds) ================================================ COUSINS US TOUR - CUTLER JOINS FOR FIRST 8 DATES ================================================ News just in that fiddle player Ian Cutler will be joining Dave Cousins for the first part of Dave's "solo" tour. I understand he'll be with Dave for the first 8 shows only, having to return to the UK for other commitments after that. We've already been delighted by Ian's fantastic fiddle playing over here in the UK, both as part of the Blue Angel Orchestra, and at the one-off Cousins, Cronk & Cutler gig back in November. We'll no doubt get the chance to preview what those US shows will be like at the one-off Cousins & Cuter folk club gig in Gravesend on 25 Jan. Watch this space. =========================== DAVE COUSINS: SECRET PATHS =========================== At the beginning of the year, Dave went into the studio with steel guitar player Melvin Duffy to record a CD which will be sold on the forthcoming US tour. But don't worry - it will be available through record shops and also from www.witchwoodrecords.co.uk as well. In fact those who buy from www.witchwoodrecords.co.uk will get a bonus MP3 track fere of charge - "The Broken Hearted Bride", which Dave recorded on dulcimer for the Secret Paths album, but which will actually be used for the forthcoming Strawbs album instead. Secret Paths focuses on the songs that Dave will be singing on the solo shows. Songs include "Ringing Down The Years", written by Dave on the news of former band member Sandy Denny's tragic death; "Canada" has the endorsement of Gordon Lightfoot; "I'll Show You Where To Sleep" using a tuning shown to Dave by Joni Mitchell; while the new "Plainsong' is as atmospheric as any songs he has ever written. The secret weapon of Secret Paths is steel guitarist Melvin Duffy - Melvin has spent three years on the road with Robbie Williams and has recorded with Joe Cocker and Zucchero among many others. The album is produced by Chris Tsangarides whose studio is littered with gold discs for albums by Yngwie Malmsteen, Judas Priest, and Thin Lizzy, and who stars in the new film Anvil b The Movie. Track listing for Secret Paths is: Song Of A Sad Little Girl Plainsong The Shepherd's Song I Turned My Face Into The Wind Ringing Down The Years Josephine (For Better Or For Worse) Canada How I Need You Now I'll Show You Where To Sleep Beat The Retreat Falling In Love Again Release date is 3rd March 2008. Preview review to follow shortly on Strawbsweb. Two tracks from Secret Paths - "Song Of A Sad Little Girl" and "I'll Show You Where To Sleep" - are on Dave's MySpace site along with selections from Boy In The Sailor Suit and Cousins & Conrad's album High Seas. http://www.myspace.com/davecousinsuk ======================== BEST OF STRAWBS (Zounds) ======================== German label Zounds have licensed a selection of tracks for a new compilation album, mainly from Witchwood Media, but "Part Of The Union" is also on there too. It's an interesting and really enjoyable selection with detailed sleeve notes (in German) and some well-chosen photographs to illustrate the booklet. Track listing as follows: Part Of The Union (Ford/Hudson) - Bursting At The Seams I Only Want My Love To Grow In You (Cousins/Cronk) - Deep Cuts Grace Darling (Cousins) - Greatest Hits Live Burning For Me (Cousins/Mealing) - Burning For You Evergreen (Cousins) - Acoustic Strawbs: Baroque & Roll Lay Down (Cousins) - Blue Angel The River/Down By The Sea (Cousins) - Greatest Hits Live The King (Cousins) - Blue Angel Forever Ocean Blue (Cousins) - Wakeman & Cousins: Hummingbird Cold Steel (Lambert) - Deja Fou If (Cousins) - Deja Fou Heartbreak Hill (Cousins/Cronk) - Heartbreak Hill Deep In The Darkest Night (Cousins) - Cousins & Conrad: High Seas Hero And Heroine (live) (Cousins) - Complete Strawbs Where Is This Dream Of Your Youth (live) (Cousins) - Recollections You can get this from a variety of sources via the web - currently in stock at: www.amazon.de (at prices from 12.90 Euros on the day I looked) www.elimbo.de www.musicline.de has some clips loaded up so you can listen before you buy. We are looking into the possibility of getting some stock into www.witchwoodrecords.co.uk to sell. I'll let you know if that happens. [ends] DICK GREENER London, UK e-mail: dgreener@ndirect.co.uk STRAWBSWEB - www.strawbsweb.co.uk "You'll scarcely believe all the pleasures inside" - --^---------------------------------------------------------------- This email was sent to: Barbara.Stewart@sesameworkshop.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84CgD.ciSCUi.QmFyYmFy Or send an email to: strawbswebnews-unsubscribe@topica.com For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER - --^---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:58:56 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Stormy love affair with Christ Hi David, thanks for your email about Moriarty. His article about Both Sides Now isn't sad, I think, it's just a bit crazy because his statements are unfounded. But it's inspired! I'll send it to you in a separate attachment, in case you still can't open the website. I'm working on a text to add to the Wikipedia entrance on Joni, abut her religious standpoint. I'll submit it t the list first so that everyone can bring up any criticism. It's an interesting question, and I think it's a relevant piece of info for Wikipedia, because there are so many Biblical references in her texts that it would be easy to conjecture that she is a born-again Christian, which chelarly she is not. I'll submit that in a few days to see what you all think. Bene Noticing that the days are really visibly longer in this part of the world. We're on the right side of winter, yay! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:16:32 +0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: re: john stewart r i p So sorry to hear the news of John Stewart's passing. I have, on vinyl, "The Lonesome Picker Rides Again" & "California Bloodlines". Both excellent albums imho, his own version of "Daydream Believer" is superb. He will be missed. Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: From Bo Hmm, well I sometimes think about if I were to meet Joni what I would say. I actually have a 4 point speech memorized in my head that I would tell her. My biggest fear in actually meeting her wouldn't be that she wouldn't live up to my expectations but that I would come off as an idiot or she'd think I was with probably my ongoing rambling. I would bet that if you did meet her in a nice, proper way (at a gallery, after a concert, vs. barging in on her eating dinner with friends or doing something private or whatever) she would be very kind. That's just my guess though. -Monika Peep Richman wrote: Hi Joni-People, I now have similar fears as to what might happen if I ever met Joni. I am sure Joni has a public and private persona. And, I wonder if we as a whole, imagine Joni to be what she is in her every day life. Does anyone feel the same way? Hugs to you, Bo - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni for your eyes Out of boredom on a day off from work, I started searching for Joni pictures and found some real nice ones. Have a look if you are as bored as me or just curious: http://musicsojourn.com/AR/Folk/img/m/MitchellJoni/PI/JoniMitchell_Wolman_300.jpg (Joni late 60's performing) http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/Joni-Mitchell-folk-singer_180211.jpg (Joni with a flower in her hair sitting by ?) http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/arts/photos/2006/11/09/mitchell-joni-cp-1224888.jpg (Joni looking happy) http://www2.2space.net/images/upl_newsImage/1192117390.jpg (Joni and her buddy Herbie) http://malkamarom.com/interviews/facetoface.jpg (A very pretty picture of Joni from '74) That's that for now. Hopefully all those links work alright. You just never know...I don't trust technology and such. -Monika - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:14:30 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Joni for your eyes Nice pics Monika. Most I've not seen before. In the second one I'd swear to the heavens that that was Cher sitting next to Joni. What does anyone else think? db >>> Monika Bogdanowicz 1/22/2008 1:12 PM >>> Out of boredom on a day off from work, I started searching for Joni pictures and found some real nice ones. Have a look if you are as bored as me or just curious: http://musicsojourn.com/AR/Folk/img/m/MitchellJoni/PI/JoniMitchell_Wolman_3 00.jpg (Joni late 60's performing) http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/Joni-Mitchell-folk-singer_180211.jpg (Joni with a flower in her hair sitting by ?) http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/arts/photos/2006/11/09/mitchell-joni-cp-122488 8.jpg (Joni looking happy) http://www2.2space.net/images/upl_newsImage/1192117390.jpg (Joni and her buddy Herbie) http://malkamarom.com/interviews/facetoface.jpg (A very pretty picture of Joni from '74) That's that for now. Hopefully all those links work alright. You just never know...I don't trust technology and such. -Monika - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:49:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bryan Subject: RIP Suzanne >Also sad to see one of my old flames Suzanne Pleshette pass on - I had a huge crush >back in the Bob Newhart days. >Bob Gosh, even this here gay guy had a sort of crush on SP back then. A "class act," she was. Funny how the death of someone who wasn't extraordinarily famous seems to have had a considerable impact on the public. Maybe it was just a slow news day, or maybe her subtle but sassy elegance really resonated with those of us who appreciate fine things (Joni fans, for example). Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:23:45 -0500 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: RE: From Bo Monika, I've had the (extreme) pleasure of meeting Joni three times, in 3 different situations (gallery, restaurant with friend, restaurant alone). Although she didn't remember me the second or third times, (nor did I expect to or ask her to try) She was always extremely friendly, kind and genuine. The first time I DID come off as an idiot. My heart was racing out of my body and I could barely put two words together. She could see how nervous I was so she just stood up from her chair and gave me a big hug to calm me down. It doesn't get any better than that. Phyliss Hmm, well I sometimes think about if I were to meet Joni what I would say. I actually have a 4 point speech memorized in my head that I would tell her. My biggest fear in actually meeting her wouldn't be that she wouldn't live up to my expectations but that I would come off as an idiot or she'd think I was with probably my ongoing rambling. I would bet that if you did meet her in a nice, proper way (at a gallery, after a concert, vs. barging in on her eating dinner with friends or doing something private or whatever) she would be very kind. That's just my guess though. -Monika Peep Richman wrote: Hi Joni-People, I now have similar fears as to what might happen if I ever met Joni. I am sure Joni has a public and private persona. And, I wonder if we as a whole, imagine Joni to be what she is in her every day life. Does anyone feel the same way? Hugs to you, Bo - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:13:56 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Cat Power performs Blue Sorry if this was already mentioned/discussed here, but today I heard Chan Marshall sing "Blue" from her newest album of covers called "Jukebox". I like the sweet deconstruction, just like the woman she is paying tribute to. Let me also say that it is only this week that I got me Joni's "Shine" and Herbie's "The Joni Letters". I am excited to listen to them for the first time and may re-surface sometime in the future to share what I thought/experienced of/from these musics. Joseph in northcentral NC np: Dengue Fever - Connect Four - --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:15:32 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni's complaints - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" wrote: ....if Joni felt like Janis Joplin didn't like her and Joan Baez wanted to break her limbs, well that's just what she felt so I can't say it's wrong or just paranoia (although as I already expressed my dislike for Baez I would not be surprised about her hating almost everyone). and Mark writes: I finally got my hands on the Mojo interview. There is a lot more to it than Joni's comments on Joan Baez and Janis Joplin. Some of it is very interesting. Maybe I will address some of it in another post. But since Joni's opinions about some of the other female artists of her time have been the subject of several posts, I have had some thoughts churning around my brain on the subject. Actually these thoughts have been churning around for a long time. In another interview from several years back (it could be 10 or 20 years for all I can remember - as Sandy Denny wrote 'who knows where the time goes?'), I remember Joni saying that whenever she was playing a festival or gig where Joan Baez was also on the bill, Ms. Baez always managed to see to it that at least one of Joni's songs got cut from her set. I also remember Joni saying that Judy Collins was once supposed to give her a ride to a particular event that they both were performing at and Judy never showed to pick Joni up! I was a bit surprised at her comment about having problems with Laura Nyro since Joni has always expressed admiration for Laura. I was also surprised to read that Janis Joplin even thought much about Joni as a rival. Of course, from everything I've read about Janis, she was a very insecure, troubled person. But the two had such different styles as performers that I can't imagine that Janis would have felt threatened by Joni. I sometimes think it is a mistake to always take Joni completely literally. The Mojo article quotes Joni as saying Rolling Stone made Joni queen of rock & roll and Janis hated her after that. Not sure what she meant by that exactly. I can maybe see Rolling Stone giving Joni that title in the Court & Spark era but that was several years after Janis died. Whatever Joni's music was in Janis's time, it doesn't seem like rock and roll to me. But then I suppose it depends on how you define rock and roll. My feeling is that Joni probably inspired some resentment and envy among the women who were already established performers when she first hit the scene. I mean, here was this young, relatively unknown woman with a pristine 3 octave voice, perfect pitch, accomplished, unique guitar playing who was also a highly prolific writer/composer of songs that were of a calibre that none of those other women could hope to approach. And then there was the fact that she had long, beautiful blonde hair, amazing cheekbones, deepset blue eyes and the men (fellow musicians and fans alike) were all smitten with her. (Stills was maybe the exception and Judy Blue Eyes was no slouch in the looks department either.) She also projected a personality that was quite captivating and endearing - or could, I imagine, be very annoying, depending on your point of view. I can see how she might have brought out the worst in some of her fellow female performers. I would imagine the field was much more wide open for men then and that it continues to be that way. I'm sure the women had to fight much harder for recognition and just for work and they probably still do. Others have mentioned David Hajdu's book 'Positively 4th Street'. That book gives a portrait of Joan Baez as a very competitive, ambitious person at the beginning of her career. Hajdu describes one incident when Joan was appearing at one of Boston's coffee houses on the same bill as another singer that she had often practiced with. Joan appeared first and performed just about every song in this other woman's set list, causing the other singer to leave the venue without having even performed. Hajdu also says that Joan would sit in the audience at some of these coffee houses when she wasn't on the bill and sing along with whoever was performing on stage. She would sing loud enough and persistently enough that the performer would feel compelled to invite her up on stage. That being said, I think Baez more than likely has probably grown up considerably since those days and I do admire her for both her talent and her commitment to the betterment of the human condition. And although I have never met Joni myself, many people on the JMDL have. Every story I can remember reading here about meeting Joni has been positive. My understanding is that Joni has been gracious and even affectionate with many JMDLers who have had the good fortune to meet her. Shutting up for now. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #437 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)