From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #427 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, January 14 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 427 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Covers in the New Rolling Stone [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Chuck Mitchell [] Re: Joni Ringtones? [Chris Marshall ] Dave Blackburn's Down To You [Michael ] RE: Joni Ringtones? ["Phyliss Ward" ] Re: Dave Blackburn's Down To You [Dave Blackburn ] re: sally barker ["joe farrell" ] re: sally barker [Bob Muller ] Ladies Man/WTRF faves [Monika Bogdanowicz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:09:27 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Covers in the New Rolling Stone Interesting name, Okkervill River. Okker is a slang term in Australia for a person who is a bit rough, usually from the outback. Sloppy dress and strong accent. An American equivalent would be a hillbilly from the Ozarks. Well deserved praise from Rolling Stone though. They do a fine job of BITB, Bob. I am dying to hear Cat Power's cover of Blue. I first heard her on the Faithless album, To All New Arrivals. She sings the song, A Kind of Peace. She has an earthy voice. She would be well suited to some folk sounds. Mark in Sydney NP A Kind of Peace - Faithless featuring Cat Power ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:16:43 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Ringtones? Hi Phyliss. I believe you can just use any mp3 as a ringtone on the iPhone. You just need to direct it to the mp3 in your set up screen. Unfortunately Australia is still waiting for the iPhone because the silly people at Apple made it a 2.5 G phone and we have long since been a 3 G network. I've held off buying an iPod or a new phone in favour of this. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 8:00:29 -0800 From: Subject: Chuck Mitchell It is indeed nice to see Chuck get a website going. I have seen him several times over the last few years at the annual Folk Alliance conferences. He is a witty and charming man and an "entertainer" rather than just a singer, weaving poems and stories into the songs (including Circle Game one show.) He seems very relaxed and comfortable with who he is. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:27:31 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Joni Ringtones? On 13 Jan 2008, at 04:14, Rian Afriadi wrote: > I make my own Joni ringtones! > Pretty easy. I cut the mp3s using a simple audio editor software, > then send it via bluetooth to my cellphone. Voila! It's not quite that simple to roll your own for the iPhone, since you currently need the help of third party software to get the ringtones recognised by the phone. Phyliss, Tell us a little about what computer you have, and in particular whether it's a Mac or a PC. If you're using a Mac, I can recommend a couple of bits of software that should set you in the right direction. > Come on Phylis, > That's pretty easy! > For God's sake, you're a PhD! But do you know what her PhD is in? If it's in some obscure facet of Art History, for example, I'd not expect up to the minute knowledge of how to cut'n'slice MP3s, WAVs, etc, and then how to upload them to a closed platform such as the iPhone. - --Chris chrisAThatstand.org (AIM: Chr15Marshall) http://myspace.com/stryngs for Stryngs music & video ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:03:33 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Dave Blackburn's Down To You I finally got a chance this morning to hear Dave Blackburn's transcription for piano of the instrumental passage from Down to You. It sounds great Dave, congratulations ! This was a treat for me, as it is one of my all times faves. Brings back lots of memories - being single, questioning my place in the world, getting stoned, looking for love in the wrong places. I think a lot of us have been there. Anyway, A young fellow from the music conservatory in town answered my call, and performed the piece for me and my partner in his funky living room. A nice moment. He hadn't really heard of Joni Mitchell, so I left him a cd I compiled of some of her piano works. And speaking of piano, after several spins, my favourite tune on Shine is Bad Dreams. I like the others too, but Bad Dreams goes a little deeper, for my taste. Michael (skiing today) in (sunny) Quebec PS You can find Dave's piano transcription of DTY in the Guitar Tabs section of JMDL _________________________________________________________________ Discover new ways to stay in touch with Windows Live! Visit the City @ Live today! http://getyourliveid.ca/?icid=LIVEIDENCA006 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:15:25 -0500 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: RE: Joni Ringtones? Hi Chris, The PhD thing is a joke from a post. I said I thought I had one in Joni Mitchell but had to downgrade to a Masters after these quizes! I looked again and didn't see any way to take MP3's to ringtones right on the iphone. I have a Sony VAIO desktop. I guess I could buy software to download? I saw some online. It would help to know if there is a good one I could trust. Thanks, Phyliss It's not quite that simple to roll your own for the iPhone, since you currently need the help of third party software to get the ringtones recognised by the phone. Phyliss, Tell us a little about what computer you have, and in particular whether it's a Mac or a PC. If you're using a Mac, I can recommend a couple of bits of software that should set you in the right direction. > Come on Phylis, > That's pretty easy! > For God's sake, you're a PhD! But do you know what her PhD is in? If it's in some obscure facet of Art History, for example, I'd not expect up to the minute knowledge of how to cut'n'slice MP3s, WAVs, etc, and then how to upload them to a closed platform such as the iPhone. - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:18:36 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Dave Blackburn's Down To You Thanks Michael. Glad to be of service. And I do like the subject heading.... You'll also find a note for note Blue transcription in the same area of jmdl. One month I'll sit down with 3 cases of wine and do Paprika Plains, that no one will ever play... On the "who's the greatest guitar/bass/keyboardist" thread: I think the question itself is pretty inane. For one thing only "big" name players are being considered here and there are hundreds if not thousands of brilliant players of all instruments working in every city who have not had the big breaks. I have my favorites among the "name" players of course but that's all they are: favorites. And then It is always more appropriate to discuss who plays the perfect thing for the music at hand: Joni is the perfect guitarist for her own music but I'd wager she's never played a lead solo in her life. Jimi Hendrix re-invented the Strat for us all but I doubt he could do much on a nylon string etc etc. There are players who stand out as innovators, others who stand out as technicians, some who's playing is notable for its grace and others for its energy. On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Michael wrote: > I finally got a chance this morning to hear Dave Blackburn's > transcription for piano of the instrumental passage from Down to > You. It sounds great Dave, congratulations ! This was a treat for > me, as it is one of my all times faves. Brings back lots of > memories - being single, questioning my place in the world, getting > stoned, looking for love in the wrong places. I think a lot of us > have been there. > > Anyway, A young fellow from the music conservatory in town answered > my call, and performed the piece for me and my partner in his funky > living room. A nice moment. He hadn't really heard of Joni > Mitchell, so I left him a cd I compiled of some of her piano works. > > And speaking of piano, after several spins, my favourite tune on > Shine is Bad Dreams. I like the others too, but Bad Dreams goes a > little deeper, for my taste. > > Michael (skiing today) in (sunny) Quebec > > PS You can find Dave's piano transcription of DTY in the Guitar > Tabs section of JMDL > > > Books, DVD's, gadgets, music and more. Shop online with Sympatico / > MSN Shopping today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:01:41 +0000 From: Chris Marshall Subject: Re: Joni Ringtones? On 13 Jan 2008, at 19:15, Phyliss Ward wrote: > The PhD thing is a joke from a post. I said I thought I had one in > Joni > Mitchell but had to downgrade to a Masters after these quizes! Ack, bitten by lack of context. I take it back... > I looked again and didn't see any way to take MP3's to ringtones > right on > the iphone. There isn't. > I have a Sony VAIO desktop. OK, let me go check whether the software I used has a Windows version as well as a Mac version. If so, I'll be able to recommend you a route. Cheers, - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:34:17 +0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: re: sally barker Just listened to Sally Barker's version of "Blue", thanks to Paul Castle, her voice is remakably similar to Joni's in that period. Hope to get to see her Joni Mitchell Project in Poynton on the current tour. Regards, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: re: sally barker I hope you do too, Joe - and please report back in and let us know how it was. She certainly is a student of Joni's phrasing - her vocal nuances match Joni's beat for beat. Bob NP: Smashing Pumpkins, "1979" - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:04:21 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Ladies Man/WTRF faves What do you all think of the song "Ladies Man" from WTRF? I have to say I quite enjoy it. I had recently asked you to tell me your favorite songs from WTRF. I'll tell you now that my favorites are Chinese Cafe, Ladies Man, and You Dream Flat Tires. Ladies Man is very different from Joni's other songs until this point. I'll say it's even a soul song or has soul in it (not "soul" as in emotion and leaving you "warm" as opposed to "cold" like in the Clapton discussion...though it's got that kind of soul too...). I don't think we'd ever heard anything like it before. I'd argue that Man To Man is along the same lines. The whole album is really a rock/pop/jazz/soul album I'd say....with I suppose some folkiness in it. Anyhow, I really like the vocal on Ladies Man, the overall melody, and the concept of the song...not to mention the first line is genius....telling the ladies man he could charm the diamonds off a rattlesnake...how clever! -Monika JF: (just finished!) The Bell Jar- Sylvia Plath - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. 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