From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #419 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, January 6 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 419 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- ACOY cover [Michel BYRNE ] ACOY cover P.S. [Michel BYRNE ] Jack Nicholson behind his Joker [anon anon ] Re: new joni interview in mojo ["Randy Remote" ] RE: new joni interview in mojo ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Jack Nicholson behind his Joker [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: From Bo/Saturday [Peep Richman ] Re: new joni interview in mojo [Laura Stanley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:35:33 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: ACOY cover Thanks Bob - that cover's a pleasure. Dave Brown's got a great voice, and it's good to hear the song performed by a male. My only reservation is that the vocal is so close to Joni's own version on Travelogue (the lovely violin intro is from there too, of course). But it's such an incredibly difficult song to sing well, so fair play to the man. Thanks again. Michel, in ever-grey Glasgow. _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:41:36 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: ACOY cover P.S. Not Travelogue, BSN of course! _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:10:46 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: Jack Nicholson behind his Joker According to the new biography of Jack Nicholson, the line "Jack behind his joker" in the Joni Mitchell song "People's parties" was referring to Jack Nicholson... I remember someone on this list suggesting that years ago... strange that Jack Nicholson actually portrayed the Joker in the movie "Batman" about 15 years after the song was written... _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:45:05 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: new joni interview in mojo From: "Kate Bennett" > Joni has made a huge sweeping generalization, one that rings very false to > me. I agree. For one thing- what effing baton was passed? When did this happen? Reagan's crowd came from the Nixon camp, and went on to Bush's. There was never any transfer of power. The corporate culture has only consolidated it's control and power, and the media, which controls the discussion, is part of that. And yet, in the 70's, the 60's generation managed, without any help from the mainstream establishment, to instigate the following world-changing movements: Civil rights The modern feminist movement Stopped Vietnam Free clinics The modern ecological movement Organic farming/food Herbal/natural medicine/alternative health Alternative media: free-form FM, newspapers, TV and news Pioneered alternative power Personal computers and the world wide web Overhauled the Barbie & Ken 50's fashions Revolutionized music, art, literature, etc And you know, Joni, there may be more! While it's true that many (esp rock stars) got mired in drugs and self-centered behavior, others rolled up their sleeves and got to work on what needed doing. You know it never has been easy whether you do or don't resign- but don't disregard the work that has been accomplished, and continues. RR > "In their youth, my generation was ready to change the world, but when the > baton was passed to them in the '70s, they fell into a mass depression > because all revolutionaries are quick to demolish and slow to fix. When > handed the baton to fix it, they didn't know what to do so they kind of > degenerated into the greediest generation in the history of America: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:34:32 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: new joni interview in mojo So very true! I ran far away from that world (rock stars & drugs & self centered behavior) because it felt so very dark. Sensitive pisces that I am & was even moreso then :~}. Joni is a strong woman, she was able to navigate beautifully in that world. But that world was not the big picture by a long shot. When you are famous at a young age like Joni was, you see the whole world through a different prism than most of us do. No blame, it just is what is. >While it's true that many (esp rock stars) got mired in drugs and self-centered behavior, others rolled up their sleeves and got to work on what needed doing. You know it never has been easy whether you do or don't resign- but don't disregard the work that has been accomplished, and continues. RR< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:35:14 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Jack Nicholson behind his Joker Hmm, interesting. The line makes sense. I know I've seen pictures of a mid 70's Joni hanging out with Jack Nicholson in L.A. How is the book in general? -Monika anon anon wrote: According to the new biography of Jack Nicholson, the line "Jack behind his joker" in the Joni Mitchell song "People's parties" was referring to Jack Nicholson... I remember someone on this list suggesting that years ago... strange that Jack Nicholson actually portrayed the Joker in the movie "Batman" about 15 years after the song was written... _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:00:00 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection "Crazy Cries of Love": "Everyone was at the wing-ding" "New Frontier" (Donald Fagen, the Nightfly): "Yes, we're gonna have a wing-ding" Oddly, Don Freed wrote the words to "Crazy Cries of Love". On 12/30/07, Jim Kauffman wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On > > Behalf Of Dan Olson > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:14 PM > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection > > > > Okay, the exceptions are S&L (Weather Report's record label > > prohibited more than one member appearing on tour with > > anyone, and Jaco was the one) and oddly, Shine. I've > > wondered what is up with that, since she has someone else > > playing soprano sax, and clearly Wayne is still around (he > > plays brilliantly on Herbie's River). > > The Shine answer is another Steely Dan connection. Bob Sheppard has been a > regular member of the Steely Dan touring band. > > Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:49:29 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: From Bo/Saturday Hello All, Wanted to add my congratulations to Alison!!!! I LOVE the name 'Amelia'...how lovely. And how does Amelia like the planet so far? And, Paz,...I laughed and laughed...never heard of the word "wanker"!!!! Kate, I agree with you completely about Joni's generalization to the 1970's generation...maybe she meant the late, late 1970's or, more pronounced, the generation of the 1980's. I grew up in the 1960's and I still hold the values of that time so close to my heart and my behavior. I hitched to Woodstock for my honeymoon with Ken and arrived 10 days prior to the concerts!!! Now that was an experience I couldn't make it through today....no food...no reasonable bathroom facilities....but did we ever have FUN!!!!!!!! I was so disappointed that Joni wasn't there but maybe we wouldn't have Joni's "Woodstock" if she had been at Woodstock. It sure seems as though the greater percentage of Americans did not integrate the teachings of Earth Day in their daily lives. And the horrid GREED I've seen and felt all around me in the 1980's and 1990's and these first years of 2000. What needs to happen....what tragedy....before the wake up call resonates? "Shine" says SO MUCH!!!! But will enough people listen to the lyrics...or, for that matter, listen to "Shine". Switching gears....I'm so sad to learn that Stephen Sills is dealing with recovery from prostate cancer. I'm sure he has a dynamic support system. Thanks for the link, Patti. Another big gear switch...maybe Stephen Sill's jogged my memory. I wanted everyone to know that I've heard of a very good RX program. It's called "TAKEDA"...no requirements and brand names of meds are covered. For information call 1-800-830-9159 or visit www.tpna.com...wait ...there are requirements...no RX coverage through private or governmental programs....total income does not exceed $20,420 for the first person and $6,690 for each additional person in household. Just wanted to pass the info along. Enjoy Sunday!!! Much love from Bo - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:14:43 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: new joni interview in mojo Kate wrote: Joni has made a huge sweeping generalization, one that rings very false to me. The rock & roll world she was living in was very different from mine. I did go back to the garden, along with many others during the 1970's. It was a remarkable experiment in leaving behind material things & hedonistic lifestyles, to dedicate our hearts & hands to living & working close to nature while seeking to put basic spiritual practices into everyday life. On one level it was hugely successful. On another level, it was not sustainable in that particular form due to what I would sum up as flaws in human nature that were unable to be addressed. Ironically, I was just talking to someone yesterday who observed our particular experiment & who felt that our efforts had had forever changed her life & the culture of our local community (& perhaps beyond) in positive ways that were irrevocable in spite of the flaws. I am still close to many from those days & impressed with the way many are still manifesting the ideals of their youth into the world. We did change the world in many ways. And still are. Happy New Year to all! Kate Hi Kate, Happy new year to you too! I agree with you that more good changes have come as a result of the children of the 60's and 70's than Joni seems to be noticing. As with most experimentation, the things that work are built upon sometimes very slowly. I was listening to John and Yoko yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lMxWWK218 There is so much more freedom of expression today because of the hippie generation where men began to paint their faces and dance with the women. We have a woman running for president who has a hippie heart like her husband. The generation of today is very interested in what went on in the 60's and 70's. It is a good time to be a grown up hippie. I wouldn't underestimate the capabilities and on-goings of the current generation. It seems rather old-folkish to bust out the current generation and blame it on failure of past generations to follow through with their ideals. 'Where did we go wrong? How can we have such disappointing youth today?' GAG!! Can't parents come up with anything new to focus on? Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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