From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #412 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, December 30 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 412 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A mass murder mystery history [Eric Taylor ] Re: Steely Dan Connection [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Steely Dan Connection ["Mark Scott" ] jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You [Rian Afriadi ] Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You [Bob Muller ] Re: JoniQuiz Pt. 8 : For The Roses [Catherine McKay ] Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: Steely Dan Connection [J Kendel Johnson ] JoniQuiz Pt. 8 : For The Roses [Patti Parlette ] Re: best of 2007 sjc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: sjc 10 best list [Bob Muller ] Re: tom sawyer [Victor Johnson ] Re: sjc 10 best list ["Randy Remote" ] Re: sjc 10 best list ["Randy Remote" ] sjc 10 best list ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: SV: SV: Joni's exit not to be thankfully [Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: A mass murder mystery history What can i possibly add to the total disgust the whole world feels over yet another assassination in the name of some stupid god? All we need is yet another conspiracy theory to distract us from what is really going on here people! The testosterone reaks to high heaven!!!!!!!!!! There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with monothiestic men as repeatedly demonstrated by human history. PLEASE GOD let them all be "raptured" off this holy earth so that we "infidels" might enjoy the paridise that our planet was meant to be? Running out of hope (which is exactly what the oil warlords bank on to maintain their grand illusion). O people we are in deep shit! But somehow i still have hope that there is a much greater future unseen by the vast majority. ET ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:40:26 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection Kenny, I totally agree with you. The song, Aja is a masterpiece. I wonder if Joni would agree. She obviously admires the song, Third World Man. I am just falling head over heels in love with Steely Dan. Reminiscent of the way I felt when I really listened to Joni. I have to admit though, I was a little disturbed by the band's name when I found out where it came from. I'm not generally very conservative but, I feel awkward now every time I say their name out loud. I just happen to be a very visual person. Sorry to be off topic once again but, I am dying to ask the Americans on the list about this New Year's tradition from Times Square in New York. I know of Dick Clarke from American Bandstand (didn't he also host Miss America or something?). What I don't get is the significance of the ball dropping. Is this a reference to adolescent boys or what? The countdown is obvious but, I don't understand the ball. We just do about a billion dollars worth of fireworks over the harbour and, since 2000, put a 3 storey lighted symbol on the Sydney Harbour Bridge with some significance to the previous or following year. Can anyone enlighten me? Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:35:38 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection From an interview with Cameron Crowe published in Rolling Stone in 1979: 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns is a suburban album. About the time that album came around I thought, "I'm not going to be your sin eater any longer." So I began to write social description as opposed to personal confession. I met with a tremendous amount of resentment....(snip).... It was my second year in office. The cartoonists had their fun. There weren't enough good jokes left, so it was time to throw me out of office and get a new president. It's politics.' It sounds like it surprised you when it actually happened. 'It really surprised me. In retrospect, it doesn't surprise me at all. I listened to that album recently, 'cause I was going to rework "Edith and the Kingpin." I was surprised. I feel that the times have caught up with it. At that time, I was beginning to introduce - for lack of a better wordjazz overtones. Nobody was really doing that. In the two years that followed, it became more acceptable, and when Steely Dan finally made Aja, with some of the same sidemen, it was applauded as a great, if somewhat eccentric, work. I fail even to see the eccentricity of it, myself. Perhaps there was a weary tone in my voice that irritated people, but there was so much of it that was accessible.' ................................................................................................................................................ This has always sounded to me like Joni was saying that HOSL was a work before its time and that she didn't receive the proper validation for it until Steely Dan released Aja. You can see that her attitude about how her music was being received was already pretty ripe way back then. She did this interview about the time of the release of 'Mingus' and she purposely asked for Cameron Crowe to do the interview. My impression was that she was trying to get some supportive press for 'Mingus' and was already anticipating, at best, a mixed reception for it. I have never been a fan of the Dan. Their music is just too slick and perversely obtuse for me. It just feels kind of calculated, somehow. I think you were dead right, Em. Joni has much more of an organic, spontaneity to her music. I have never felt there would be any great work produced by Joni collaborating with Becker and Fagan. But then again, my favorite Rickie Lee Jones album is 'Flying Cowboys'. Produced by none other than Walter Becker. So go figure. I wonder if her re-working of Edith and the Kingpin is what we heard on Shadows and Light? Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:13:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You I'm listening Down To You again and again, waiting for inspirations to write another Joni Quiz. Then i realized, i don't understand what "down to you" is. Down is a word with too many meanings. Help me. Rian. PS: the word "go down" on the song You Oughta Know on my old Jagged Little Pill CD was bleeped. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:05:14 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: ANSWER : JoniQuiz Pt. 7 : Shine Surely Two Grey Rooms was written on piano in 1982 (or so Joni says when it was known as 'Wordless' or something like that)... what about Man From Mars? Not To Blame? LOVING THESE QUIZZES!!!! Much Joni and Much Jotmas Jamie Zooby On 29/12/2007, Rian Afriadi wrote: > The Answers!!! > > 10. False! > Chronologically, One Week Last Summer is the first piano-led song since Two Grey Rooms. > ( That night the piano beckoned for the first time in ten years ) > > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:12:47 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: best of 2007 sjc In no particular order... 1. Mark Knopfler-Kill to Get Crimson 2 .Rush- Snakes and Arrows 3. Wilco-Sky Blue Sky 4. Joni Mitchell- Shine 5. Neil Young- Live at Massey Hall 6. Alicia Keys- As I Am 7. Bruce Springsteen- Magic 8. Norah Jones- Not Too Late 9. Allison Krauss and Robert Plant - Raising Sand 10. James Taylor - One Man Band Victor NP: Neutral Milk Hotel - Holland, 1945 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You I've always heard it as another way of saying "it's up to you", it's your decision, it's the consequnces of YOUR behavior, etc. Since she segments it out of "it all comes down to you", she just leaves the down in there which is more appropriate since most of what is going on is a downer. My take. Bob - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:24:41 -0800 (PST) From: Karma yeshe Dorje Subject: sd never made you cry? Callme an assuming ass ,but it seems to me that I alwayse cried after deacon blues when I reached 36.Also'rickydon't lose that number because I knw ricky was a girl and the song spole to my endless sadness.Nevertheless,BLUE FOR EXAMPLE BY JONI,is a life changingevent.I was stunned into silence way before I thought of milking it for my need to cry in forlorn sadness.One of thereasons I alwayse liked joni is she speaks to subjects more than personal issues though i know there in there.Joni writes about events and demonstrates her take on it.Briefly;Once doctors clucked over me and it was an interview with joni where she address the issue of mentaly and emotional suffering at timeinour lives,proclaiming it 'shamanicconversion'.Joni'smention ofthis was what I needed to hear.This was instrumental in my learning tolove myself.Ricky don't lose that number will alwayse haunt me with regret.Joni alwayse gave me hope,enen at eight years old. SIGNED SINCERELY...............NOBODY ASKED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STILL...........joni rocks!!!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:27:59 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JoniQuiz Pt. 8 : For The Roses - --- Rian Afriadi wrote: > <> > < the list>> > I remember Dylan Rush. He was one of the very young people on the list. I think he was about 14 at the time he was on and that was maybe a year or two ago. I think he was Australian, but I could be wrong on that point. I do remember that he was quite young and very smart. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:23:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You - --- Rian Afriadi wrote: > I'm listening Down To You again and again, > waiting for inspirations to write another Joni Quiz. > > Then i realized, i don't understand what > "down to you" is. Down is a word with too > many meanings. > > Help me. > More often people say "it's up to you" (meaning, you need to make a choice.) Sometimes they say "It's down to you." I have no idea whether that's a regional thing or a generational thing or whatever. I'm not sure I had ever heard "down to you" rather than "up to you" before this song and yet I understood what it meant anyway. I'm sure it was a deliberate choice, because Joni chooses her words carefully. "Down" has that negative connotation to it. The song itself is a bit of a "downer" and it all about sinking into the dregs, picking up someone that's not up to your "usual standards" because you're a bit desperate and have had a few drinks too many. All in all, rather depressing and sordid and brilliantly done. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:11:54 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection Joni and Steely Dan circa 1974-77 are connected in many ways. Sidemen: 1/ Larry Carlton 2/ Wayne Shorter 3/ Tom Scott 4/ Victor Feldman 5/ Chuck Findley and there may be more...those were off the top of my head... Chords: They both make extensive use of a very distinctive chord called the major 9 no 3rd, better visualized as a V triad over a 1 root (G with a C bass). Down to You and Blue feature this very hip chord in JM's piano writing while the song Josie exemplifies SD's use of it. It has a really early 70's L.A sound and links these two artists conceptually in location and time. Other chord use similarities include parallel minor 7th chord movement, the major add 9 chord. Both extend the pop song form to allow for extended excursions into other musical territory (Aja, Down to You, Car on a Hill, Paprika Plains). Lyrics: Both JM and the SD writers explore rich imagery of ennui, faded hipsters, burned out showbiz types and more and use literary "poetic" language. Sound: C&S and Aja have avery similar production styles and sound, partly due to the players involved and partly due to the west coast studio techniques of the time: padded drum booths, swimmy Fender Rhodes beds, atmospheric lead guitar fills by Larry Carlton, background horn sections, modest use of reverb, unaggressive bottom end to the mix. Dave B (donning the tux Monday night to play Bad Leroy Brown and Proud Mary for old folks who think they're really rockin' now...) Happy New year everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:20:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You How right you are, Catherine. There is a difference, though subtle. Up to you involves the choice. But "down to you" adds a time element to the choice, sort of a now or never connotation. The choice needs to be made now, or I'll make it for you. Joni, ever the genius. Jerry Catherine McKay wrote: > I'm sure it was a deliberate choice, because Joni > chooses her words carefully. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:43:49 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: jmld. Joni Mitchell Lyric Discussion: Down To You From: "Bob Muller" <<< I've always heard it as another way of saying "it's up to you", it's your decision, it's the consequnces of YOUR behavior, etc. Since she segments it out of "it all comes down to you", she just leaves the down in there which is more appropriate since most of what is going on is a downer. >>> Interesting take, Bob. For me, "it's up to you" implies that the decision could be made by more than one party for example - "Which movie would you like to see tonight?" "Oh, I don't know, it's up to you" either of the persons in the conversation could make a choice. In "Down To You", I find the lyrics intensely lead to the conclusion that eventually you are alone and "down to you" doesn't necessarily mean making a choice of any kind it simply means that you can't rely on anyone other than yourself... in the end it's YOU who makes the difference in your own life. Yes, choices are made which affect your life, such as the "strange new flesh" you picked up to satisfy your craving for warmth and beauty but once gone, the reality hits more deeply home that you're alone again. Your mileage may vary but when I was recovering from my stroke it was one song which really helped me realize nobody was going to pick me up out of that bed and make me walk, I had to work at it and only *I* could do it. By process of elimination It really was down to me and only me to change the outcome. Cassy NP: Mellencamp - Paper in Fire Live NH 12-6-2007 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:59:05 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Down To You - --- Catherine wrote: > More often people say "it's up to you" (meaning, you > need to make a choice.) Sometimes they say "It's > down > to you." - --- And Bob wrote: > I've always heard it as another way of saying "it's up to you", it's your decision, it's the consequnces of YOUR behavior, etc. And I say: I don't think it has anything to do with "up to you," guys. To me, the phrase "(it all comes) down to ___" always seems to be used in the context of simplifying a decision, as in, "It all comes down to this: you love me or you don't," or "Whether or not you love me all comes down to you and whatever you decide." That's how it is in my world, anyway. - --SoB NPIMH: Brian Wilson's "Love and Mercy" performed by the boys' choir Libera at the Kennedy Center Honors broadcast earlier this week http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcqvknM6vFI&feature=related ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:33:51 -0800 (PST) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: Steely Dan Connection Dave Blackburn wrote: Joni and Steely Dan circa 1974-77 are connected in many ways. When Aja came out, I seem to recall reading in the music press about some (at least suspected) references to Joni in the album's lyrics. Googling has not turned up anything to confirm this for me so far, but I got to reading the "Steely Dan Connection" dialogue and realized I've had this in my head since shortly after the album's release. Is anyone able to confirm Joni references in Aja's lyrics? Have a just hallucinated this? (Hey, it WAS the 70s!) J ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:58:13 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: JoniQuiz Pt. 8 : For The Roses Uh oh! Rian has called me to the front of the class. Merde, alors! I feel like I'm back in French phonetique class in Rouen, France (circa MOA) and, having artfully dodged mean old Madame Triantafalou all semester (hiding in the back of the classroom), she finallement notices me and points a bony finger at me and beckons me to the blackboard: "Aha! Mademoiselle Parlette, ma petite coquette: Venez! Venez!" I gulp and straighten my kick pleat skirt and head to the front of the class, to face the humiliation my classmates have endured all semester. Last chance lost. Now the trials are trumpet scored, oh will I pass the test? 1. Guitar chord If you're [D] driving into town With a [A] dark cloud above you [G] Dial in the number Who's [??] bound to love you a. A b. B c. C d. D e. E <> <> Merde! I'm not a musician. (Psssst to the back of the class: Victor, Dave, RR, Jenny -- someJonibody HELP ME!) 2. Which "some" is not mentioned on Banquet? a. Some watch their kids grow up b. Some watch the paint peel off c. Some turn to Jesus d. Some turn to rambling round looking a clear sky f. And some turn to heroin d. It's a *clean* sky. (Very tricky, Rian!) ; ) 3. Who sings Merry Christmas on the song Barangrill? a. Nat King Cole b. Bing Crosby c. Louis Armstrong d. Natalie Cole e. None above e. None of the above. It was the guy at the gas pumps who had a lot of soul, who sang Merry Christmas for you just *like* Nat King Cole. 4. When was "you" and "me" engaged in a deep kiss? a. morning b. midday c. afternoon d. early night e. midnight d. early night (with the sun going down). One of my favorite Joni fantasies. Ah, you know my needs, you sweet tumbleweed! ; ) 5. Sometimes I get that feeling / And I want to settle / And raise a child up with somebody / I get that strong longing / And I want to settle / And raise a child up with somebody / But it passes like .... a. the day b. the rain c. the spring d. the summer e. a train d. the summer (I'm a wild seed again, let the wind carry me...) 6. True or false : For The Roses has 12 songs but the time length is shorter than Court and Spark (which only contains 10 songs) Je ne sais pas! (I really don't know.) Wait, though. Hold on! Hold on! I have a fifty-fifty fire and ice chance here, right? Darn right. False (TIC! alarm). Final answer (TIC! me, my love): False. 7. She tapes her regrets To the microphone stand She says "You can't hold the hand Of a rock 'n' roll man (Very long) Or count on your plans With a rock 'n' roll man (Very long) Compete with the fans For your rock 'n' roll man (........) The girls and the bands and the rock 'n' roll man. 8. Arrange these: (from WOHAM) (1) queen of your dreams (2) lover (3) mother (4) silly girl (5) sister 3, 2 (another), 5, 1, 4 9. True or False : JOTMAS (LT) is Joni's longest Helium-Period song. (Suppose FTR is Joni's last helium-period album) (Joni's voice on C&S is already deep) (disagree? Make a new discussion : which album is Joni's last helium album?) (Lurkers : "helium album??? Whats that? Is that delicious?") True. (If I make a new discussion/essay question, do I get extra-credit, to compensate for not answering question #1?) 10. True or False : Joni was photographed nude for the artwork. True. 11. You're too raw / They think you're too raw / It's the judgement of the moon and stars / ... a. Think what you'd like to have b. All across the sky c. Draw yourself a bath d. Your solitary path e. Not even when you die d. 12. Mention all foods mentioned on the song Banquet! Umm......gravy, gristle, marrow bone, salty soup, cookie, gristle (again), marrow bone...(lobster pot doesn't count, does it? or sweeter fare?) 13. Which sentence is the last sentence of the song Cold Blue Steel And Sweet Fire? a. Or you're going to come later b. Fall into Lady Release c. Or you can come later d. Or if you come on later e. It's down, down, down the dark ladder a. 14. True or False : You Turn Me On I'm A Radio is Jonis second highest charting single, after Help Me. Ummm....(Psssst! Muller! Help Me!) False? What about BYT? Isn't that right up there? Okay, final answer: True. 15. It was just the arbutus rustling / And the bumping of the logs / And the moon swept down black water / Like an empty spotlight Which song contains above verse? a. See You Sometime b. Electricity c. Let The Wind Carry Me d. For The Roses e. Woman of Heart And Mind d. (I heard Joni tell a lovely story about this in August 1974 at Place des Nations in Montreal. She was wearing white jeans and an apricot-colored top. She was beautiful.) Pretty difficult, eh? I expect Patti get a high score. You know, she always quotes lines from this album. Phew! Test anxiety. How did I do? Please don't kick me out of JMU! At least me stay at sophomore jive year, okay? Merci, Rian! You had me back in my freshman dorm room in "The Jungle" (TIC! line) (actually North Campus) where I played just-released FTR over and over and over again, trying to drown out Lisa next door in Hurley 211 as she blasted Loggins and Messina (Hi Kate!) all weekend long. I can picture the album cover on my white Parson's table next to the Pfaltzgraf BLUE and white teapot, underneath the black and white poster of Joni smoking, next to the Indian print curtains with my BLUE Scholl sandals on the oriental rug. (We can only look, behind from where we came....) With heart and humor and humility (worrying -- I worry sometimes -- that my Ph.D just became an Associate's Degree), Patti P. NPOMTV: ESPN, UConn Huskies vs. Wake Forest in the Meineke Car (TIC! on a hill) Care Bowl....looking for my sons who took the refuge of the roads all the way to Charlotte. I had the urge for going (JT TIC! In my mind I'm going to Carolina) and inviting Joseph and Muller, but then decided to stay home. I'm not really a football fan. I mean, can you see JONI at a football game? Ha! WWJD? But I did get a good rise out of the boys when I told them I might go and invite two Joni people. They shake their heads, they tell me that I've changed. In any case, Go Huskies and Go Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:47:03 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: best of 2007 sjc From: "Victor Johnson" > 9. Allison Krauss and Robert Plant - Raising Sand I forgot to list that one-from what I've heard on the radio, they have a very fine blend-ala Knopfler/Harris' "Roadrunning", and some sturdy songs. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 14:52:57 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: sjc 10 best list But it's not a double - it's a single - ? Bob NP: My son and niece & nephew playing "Tom Sawyer" on Rock Band. - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:12:30 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: tom sawyer On Dec 29, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > > NP: My son and niece & nephew playing "Tom Sawyer" on Rock Band. 2007 Award for funniest intro to a song in a concert: http://video.aol.com/video-detail/rush-tom-sawyer-south-park-intro/ 2166608156 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:29:08 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: sjc 10 best list > "Long Road Out of Eden"> > it falls into the 90% double-album rule which states that 90% of all double albums would have been great single albums. Okay, next question (anyone) : Does Herbie's "River" fall under the 90% double-album rule? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:22:49 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: sjc 10 best list > under the 90% double-album rule?> > > But it's not a double - it's a single - ? > > Bob okay...uh....never mind....just makin' sure you're payin' attention... ahem... I see that Amazon has it with 2 bonus tracks: 11. All I Want featuring Sonya Kitchell (Exclusive Bonus Track) 12. A Case of You (Exclusive Bonus Track) Also hadn't heard of this but you probably have: Moon at the Window - Piano Impressions of Joni by Rachel Z (2002) http://www.amazon.com/Moon-Window-Piano-Impressions-Joni/dp/B00006K0B7/ref=cm_cr_pr_mention_t Also, newbies: as long as we're on the subject, jmdler and musician/jazz pianist extraordinaire David Lahm has released 2 CDs of high quality Joni music (and 8 years before Herbie got around to it : ) ) : ten bucks each! Jazz Takes on Joni Mitchell http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Takes-Joni-Mitchell-David/dp/B00000I8AY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1198969675&sr=1-1 More Jazz Takes on Joni Mitchell http://www.amazon.com/More-Jazz-Takes-Joni-Mitchell/dp/B000059LCD/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1198969675&sr=1-3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:36:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: sjc 10 best list Rufus Wainwright - Rufus Does Judy at Carnegie Hall Rufus Wainwright - Release the Stars Bettye Lavette - Scene of the Crime Amy Winehouse - Back to Black Joni Mitchell - Shine Chaka Khan - Funk This Herbie Hancock - River: The Joni Letters Barbara Dickson - Nothing's Gonna Change My World Feist - Reminder Teddy Thompson - Up Front and Down Low Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:47:09 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: SV: SV: Joni's exit not to be thankfully Hmm, very interesting. Thank you for answering my question. I was not familiar with this novel. I could definitely see Joni being interested in something like that though. You're right. -Monika Marion Leffler wrote: Hi Monika, The Cleft is a novel about the origins of men and women and how they came to co-exist. Doris Lessing presumes that women were first and men came after, and at first there was a lot of animosity, they did not live together. It's a sort of legend. The "I" in the novel is an ageing Roman senator who spends his time writing history, trying to make sense of very ancient documents based on oral history. The Cleft is a name of a holy place as well as a name for women and also of what happened. It's hard to retell, you got to read it. What made me think that Joni might like this novel is that it would probably confirm her views of the nature of men and women (as expressed in her lyrics) and their troublesome attraction and relationship. Also, I felt their is a likeness in the way Doris Lessing and Joni write. Marion NR a book on school cultures, more as part of work than leisure. - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Monika Bogdanowicz Skickat: den 28 december 2007 17:06 Till: Joni people!; Marion Leffler Dmne: Re: SV: Joni's exit not to be thankfully Hey there Marion. I decided to add the "NR" at the suggestion of the post, "lurk no more" that came from a librarian, Martha, on this list. She had wanted the "NR" and I thought it to be a swell idea... Now what makes you think The Cleft is a book Joni would appreciate? What was it about? I'm curious. As for Mrs. Dalloway, so far it's quite good. I'm not that far into it as I only just started reading it yesterday during lunch at work (and haven't read it since then but have the day off today and tomorrow so reading shall be one of my friends in my free time!). I like how it is written almost as a string of thoughts flowing endlessly. The writing, the wording, is very different. - -Monika - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------- Marion Leffler wrote: By the way, I like your addition of NR! Hope you have a good time with Mrs Dalloway. Let me add an RR (recently read): The Cleft - Doris Lessing. Somehow I think that is a book Joni would appreciate. Marion - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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