From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #364 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, November 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 364 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re:Number One - video [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Back again , Charlie Rose, Singer Songwriter Cruise, etc. [Michael Pa] Joni on Charlie Rose... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Joni on Charlie Rose [Deb Messling ] Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) [ria] Joni on Charlie Rose [Patti Parlette ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and Dancin Clown [Michel BYRNE ] re: Craving simplicity [Jeannie ] SV: Joni on Charlie Rose ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: For the Charlie Roses [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [merk54@aol.com] Re: Craving simplicity ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [Jeannie ] Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) [Bo] Joni on Charlie Rose ["Lindsay Moon" ] FW: Tavis Smiley transcript and i love chaka..., and high coups ["WATTS, ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Gibson Robot guitar [Michael Paz ] Re: Robot Guitar News story w/Joni mention [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:24:57 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re:Number One - video On 16/11/2007, at 7:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > If I've seen this before I don't remember it. Very cool! Joni looked > like she was having fun and her delivery was so soulful and strong. > > I was listening to 'For the Roses' in the car on the way home from > work tonight. I got to thinking that, even when she was singing in > that pristine soprano voice, Joni has always sung like she's telling > you something. Like she's actually speaking to you. But singing. > > I can't explain it any better than that. I think a big part of why we > love her so much is that she's such a genius at communicating when she > performs. The excellence of the lyrics and the music have a lot to do > with it. But she has a way of getting straight into your head and > heart that is very powerful. > > Mark in Seattle I couldn't agree with you more, Mark. Joni speaks to our souls. She is foremost, an amazing communicator. Not to detract from her musical and artistic achievements but, I think the way she communicates is the main reason we are all here. We are the listeners. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:46:04 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Back again , Charlie Rose, Singer Songwriter Cruise, etc. Hi Phyliss- My heart goes out to you tonight my old friend. I got word this am about the passing of my dear friend Rodolfo Garcia. We grew up together and he moved to Germany where he learned to spek German and graduated medical school in Germany and went home with his German wife to live with their children. I am so sorry for your loss of which we have all had too many of, of late. I would like to hear more about the cruises. I will be home Sunday and home for 12 days before our final tour of the year. I am trying to book a cruise with the band and some other singer songwriters from N.O. for next year. Would love t see you guys. Much love! PaZ P.S. Julian taped Charlie Rose for me so I should be watching it about this time on sunday night. Enjoy all. So much Joni so little time! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 16, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Phyliss Ward wrote: Hello friends, old and new. I've finally caught up....ok mostly deleted... the posts from the last couple of months. My life went into a bit of a tailspin when my brother in law died unexpectedly. I was in Miami helping my sis through this difficult time when the Joni and Herbie CDs came out...didn't get them till weeks later and still haven't had my life in a place to really listen to them much. And of course the posts went into overdrive! Whew! I'll try to be more up to date now (despite upcoming travel) so that I can comment on things and NOT MISS ANOTHER JONI BROADCAST EVENT! Damn! Thanks to U-Tube I did finally see the CBS Sunday Morning thing...nice piece. Yeah, short, but nice. I do not want to miss Charlie Rose though. Does anyone know when this is really going to be shown so I can set my recorder? The website says Guests: Joni Mitchell Appearances: None. What's up with that? Did she cancel? Inquiring minds want to know. Also, Bob and I have booked both the John Mayer and Friends and Cayamo Singer Songwriter Cruises through www.Sixthman.net , back to back in February. Is anyone else from the list going? If not, then WHY? It should be a blast plus: EmmyLou Harris, Patty Griffin, Shawn Colvin, Lyle Lovett, John Hiatt etc etc etc.! Contact me or the website for more info. I've already suggested they do a Herbie Hancock and Friends Cruise. Wouldn't that be interesting! I had a major dream last night. The kind where you wake up and go back to sleep and it picks up again. Started out as annoying unexpected visits from large numbers of extended family (which not surprisingly echoes my current real life) but it turned into a full blown Joni dream when "Jamie Box of Paints" (who I know only from his screen name on this list) shows up and clues me in it's all elaborate ploy to lure Joni to a pool party, which happens successfully. She looks radiant and we do lots of talking, chicken squaking! Yours Truly, Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose... Well I wasn't sure when it said "November 15th" what that exactly meant. Let me explain. CR is on for me at 12 AM so it is now Thursday, November 15th. I started recording on my DVR until I saw that the episode had only Robert Plant and a couple others as guests tonight. Must be tomorrow then, which would be Friday November 16th for me, but could be, yes? -Monika - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:17:34 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose I thought Joni looked stunning on this show, absolutely stunning. The interview felt a little disjointed to me, and I'm sick of the "we're just car salesmen" anecdote, but whose to complain about any Joni appearance. I thought it was cute how Charlie said Joni was "finally" on his show; his was one of the many appearances she cancelled at one point or other. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) I thought i heard a few BOOOOs before Joni sang the song. Did you hear that too? Or is it just an effect of listening Britneys Blackout album??? Rian NP. Britney  Get Naked (I Got A Plan) (Cesspoooooooooooool!!!!) - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:52 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a disappointment? I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-joni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:10:53 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look gorgeous. A Sleepy Jerry.... > Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! > > Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a > disappointment? > > I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much > too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming > to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: > > ***** > > Brian Miller: > I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. > This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed > almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't > seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you > were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and > contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such > endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. > (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic > program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined > to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us > much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) > > ***** > > http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon > i-mitchell > > Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and > hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! > You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" > like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her > impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly > laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. > > Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to > watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- > that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush > administration ). > > Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." > > But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. > > Love, > > Patti P. > > NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) > > In my midnight confessions/impressions > When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it > now. > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 > 33 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:14:34 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and Dancin Clown Thanks to Marianne for correcting the funny misreading in the transcript - 'high coup' for 'haiku'. What's omitted in the transcript too is Joni exclaiming 'And Chaka! I love Chaka!' when discussing the Herbie Hancock album - - it's sort of lost in the exchange and Tavis didn't pick up on it. Re Dancin Clown, i've come to respect the song more since discovering it was an exercise in fitting in as many horseracing names into a song as possible. It's very cleverly done. But I still don't like it.... Michel in dreich (i.e. dreary gloomy) Glasgow _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:10:26 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Who would play Joni in a movie? How about Joni's daughter? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Who would play Joni in a movie? I, too, thought of Joni's very own daughter. Who better than her own child? That would be awesome! Jeannie SweetbirdUR@aol.com wrote: How about Joni's daughter? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:51:24 -0800 From: "William Elliott" Subject: Re: All These Movie Talks....(Now Music Videos) Excuse me, but I am a part-timer who is, more than not, completely out of the loop, but is the GOOD FRIENDS music video available anywhere online? I caught perhaps the last 90 seconds of it once in circa 1986, and I've not seen it since. The same with SHINY TOYS, although I think I did once see that in its entirety at some point in the 1980s. It would be great to be able to see these two neglected chestnuts again. Click here to find great deals on vending machines.

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Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: For the Charlie Roses I can't help it and you are the only ones who care so here goes..I was frankly a lil bummed out after the interview last night.. I looked forward to it alll day wishin and hopin for an hour of charlie and joni...I know that publicity tours are neccessary and thankfully joni is very careful which shows she appears on, but all i got out of the interview is she has an album for sale and a ballet..Charlie was unprepared!! He had an opportunity to have joni for a full hour and decided to fill the majority of the show with OUTDATED(umm sopranos finale?? that was months ago why the importance to discuss it now?) tv talk...Giving joni a matter of minutes to ask so where ya been for ten years and he probably didn't let her smoke lol.. i am rambling a lil but I was dissapointed...When are we really going to get an in depth interview with joni. I wanna see her now on the old dick cavett show(i see her smokin and drinking like bette davis those dvd's are priceless).or anyone who will take a full hour to dig a lil deeper..We deserve better and more! xoxox Kev - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: re: Craving simplicity My heavenly dream on earth would be that we'd all be neighbors, each with our very own cottages nearby, but separate, from one another~~we'd all get together~~kindred spirits who crave simplicity and all sorts of artistry~~singing, painting, meditating, dancing like ballarinas or silly clowns, laughing and crying, it doesn't matter, it's all the same release, with an agreement to disagree most graciously! With one love, one heart, beating to the rhythm of the Universe! Jeannie nj ' - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:44:14 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Joni on Charlie Rose Patti, thank you for the link - although when I clicked it, there is a message on the web side that the video is not yet available. Of course, I have been unable to watch the interview over here so I can neither confirm your impression nor look at it from both sides now. But I do know that you are a person who nearly never says anything negative about anything to do with Joni, so knowing that and reading your sad report, I'm guessing it was pretty awful. Sorry you and Joni had to have such a bad experience! But I bet Joni said to herself "shine on the ignorant ...hole":-) Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Patti Parlette Skickat: den 16 november 2007 14:46 Till: joni@smoe.org; treegreen1@hotmail.com Dmne: Joni on Charlie Rose Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a disappointment? I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-j oni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:59:42 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: For the Charlie Roses IMHO, the best interviews with Joni are the extended radio interviews with public and community owned radio stations. The interviewers are much more knowledgeable about Joni and her work and don't go back to The Flood (polio, bowling money, child out of wedlock) and take up valuable time on what most people know already. Many of them are out there on cd's and are rebroadcast occasionally. Jerry > I can't help it and you are the only ones who care so here goes..I was frankly > a lil bummed out after the interview last night.. I looked forward to it alll > day wishin and hopin for an hour of charlie and joni...I know that publicity > tours are neccessary and thankfully joni is very careful which shows she > appears on, but all i got out of the interview is she has an album for sale > and a ballet..Charlie was unprepared!! He had an opportunity to have joni for > a full hour and decided to fill the majority of the show with OUTDATED(umm > sopranos finale?? that was months ago why the importance to discuss it now?) > tv talk...Giving joni a matter of minutes to ask so where ya been for ten > years and he probably didn't let her smoke lol.. i am rambling a lil but I was > dissapointed...When are we really going to get an in depth interview with > joni. I wanna see her now on the old dick cavett show(i see her smokin and > drinking like bette davis those dvd's are priceless).or anyone who will > take a full hour to dig a lil deeper..We deserve better and more! xoxox Kev > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it > now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:02:55 -0500 From: merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose I was also disappointed by this interview.? Way too short (about 12-13 minutes if I'm not mistaken), and Charlie seemed like he would rather be at the dentist.? I sat through 45 minutes of bather about the fall line up for this? Jack - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Notaro To: Patti Parlette ; Joni List ; treegreen1@hotmail.com Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 8:10 am Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look gorgeous. A Sleepy Jerry.... > Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! > > Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a > disappointment? > > I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much > too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming > to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: > > ***** > > Brian Miller: > I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. > This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed > almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't > seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you > were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and > contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such > endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. > (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic > program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined > to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us > much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) > > ***** > > http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon > i-mitchell > > Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and > hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! > You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" > like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her > impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly > laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. > > Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to > watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- > that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush > administration ). > > Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." > > But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. > > Love, > > Patti P. > > NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) > > In my midnight confessions/impressions > When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it > now. > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 > 33 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:20:24 +0100 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: Re: Craving simplicity What a beatiful dream, Jeannie! Like a never-ending Jonifest! Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: re: Craving simplicity > My heavenly dream on earth would be that we'd all be neighbors, each with > our very own cottages nearby, but separate, from one another~~we'd all get > together~~kindred spirits who crave simplicity and all sorts of > artistry~~singing, painting, meditating, dancing like ballarinas or silly > clowns, laughing and crying, it doesn't matter, it's all the same release, > with an agreement to disagree most graciously! > With one love, one heart, beating to the rhythm of the Universe! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:29:33 +0100 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose I haven't been able to see it yet, as the video has still not been posted. However, when I first went to the site to try to find it, one of the things that came up rather prominently as an option was an interview of Jewel. I don't really know her or her music, but since she has been compared to Joni in the past, I thought it might be interesting to watch it, so I did. Something that struck me about him was a seeming lack of personability - he didn't seem to engage with her or appear to be interested in her at all. He just seemed to read off pre-prepared questions, and then ordered her to read one poem from her book, and then he asked her to read another one, and then he asked her to read another one, and that was pretty much it. The poems he asked her to read were listed on a sheet of paper. It all seemed very mechanical. So I'm just wondering if maybe he's like this with everyone? Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose >I was also disappointed by this interview.? Way too short (about 12-13 >minutes if I'm not mistaken), and Charlie seemed like he would rather be at >the dentist.? I sat through 45 minutes of bather about the fall line up for >this? > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Notaro > To: Patti Parlette ; Joni List ; > treegreen1@hotmail.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 8:10 am > Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose > > > > Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the > Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he > threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look > gorgeous. > > A Sleepy Jerry.... > > >> Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! >> >> Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a >> disappointment? >> >> I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or >> much >> too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was >> affirming >> to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: >> >> ***** >> >> Brian Miller: >> I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. >> This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed >> almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't >> seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you >> were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and >> contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such >> endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. >> (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic >> program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined >> to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us >> much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) >> >> ***** >> >> http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon >> i-mitchell >> >> Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your >> notes and >> hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little >> interest! >> You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get >> her" >> like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up >> her >> impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly >> laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. >> >> Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to >> watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- >> that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush >> administration ). >> >> Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." >> >> But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. >> >> Love, >> >> Patti P. >> >> NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) >> >> In my midnight confessions/impressions >> When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. >> Get it >> now. >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 >> 33 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Thanks for bringing up for us what Mr. Brian Miller wrote on the Charlie Rose.com, Patti. He was right on, concerning those blah, blah, blah, bumbling prime time channel season television show executives. So boring and they sounded off as tinkling cymbals and pounding brass, even though I wasn't listening. They were just there in front of my face. They put me in a bad mood and I was saying out loud, "Shut the freaking hell up, already--I can't take these fluffy-wuffy bull crap conversations over my television set as I'm waiting for Joni to come on!" I mean, are there actually intelliegent folk out there who view Charlie Rose's show as better than most, only to listen to who's doing what and what is going on, on ABC, NBC and CBS? I thought, "Is Charlie Rose genius enough to put these blabbering men right before Joni, just as a contrast, between the shadows and the lights? Or is he oblivious to it all?" Charlie Rose seemed to be right at home with those guys and out of touch with our Joan. She mentally hesitated a couple of times with his weird energy towards her. Maybe he doesn't get it?! I thought he was more intelligent than that! Obviously, not the way I thought he was! And last night he proved it. Maybe he was intimidated with Joni's ultimate grace that flows with Nature and not the Fall TV show ratings. Jeannie ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-joni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 nj ' - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:56:27 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) The 'Boo's' were indeed what you heard. Joni pre-empted someone else who the audience was expecting. Worse is when she sang "Three Great Stimulants" and actually had bottles and trash being thrown on stage. She actually says something to the effect of "hey, stop throwing $hit up here, we're not that bad". She also said later that the anger she felt drove the band to play a very powerful version of "Number One". Bob NP: Laura Nyro, "Springblown" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Nice clips of her performing and some of the ballet. Enjoyable nonetheless and glad she's getting "face time" even though it is at midnight. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:17:07 -0800 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: FW: Tavis Smiley transcript and i love chaka..., and high coups ________________________________ From: WATTS, LESLI Sent: Fri 11/16/2007 12:56 PM To: Michel BYRNE Subject: RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and i love chaka..., and high coups funny.. we all hear different things when joni speaks. i thought she said: tina, i love tina". but then again i've been battling a head cold. heart is singing but ears are ringing in california. and haiku....i think he knew exactly what a haiku was. Tavis: - that's a long high coup (laughter). Mitchell: (Laughter) Tavis: Oxymoronic, I know. joni must have liked him quite a bit. a totally reliable source said that tavis and a few of his entourage had dinner at joni's the day after the show. wow! lesli . From: owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of Michel BYRNE Sent: Fri 11/16/2007 6:14 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and Dancin Clown Thanks to Marianne for correcting the funny misreading in the transcript - 'high coup' for 'haiku'. What's omitted in the transcript too is Joni exclaiming 'And Chaka! I love Chaka!' when discussing the Herbie Hancock album - - it's sort of lost in the exchange and Tavis didn't pick up on it. _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:31:29 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose I admit I was underwhelmed by the interview as well. First off, it was too short. Lucky for me I taped it on my DVR so I had the liberty of fast forwarding through everything until Joni came on. Secondly, it seemed Charlie Rose was too intent on getting through his questions rather than engaging in a conversation with Joni. He said, "talk about Shine or tell me about Shine" and asked about the first track. Joni started talking about Gratitude changing into "One Week Last Summer" (which is where I would have asked if I were conducting the interview, "why did you change the title to One Week Last Summer?") and then a bit about This Place and you could tell she was in the middle of her thoughts on the album when he almost interrupted asking about the Ballet. She wasn't finished Charlie! It seemed he did this quite a bit. Third off, it was basically the same ol' questions which in turn Joni gave the same answers. I mean, how many times can she answer why she didn't make an original album in ten years? You know what I mean? So there are the shadows to the interview but let me shed a little light. First off, it was great to see Joni on another talk show though. Of course, she didn't seem as comfortable on this one as on Tavis Smiley. These last appearances Joni has made were the first times I've seen Joni on an interview at the time they were taped, not years later! Quite exciting for me personally. Secondly, I did really like one question he asked. Sure, it wasn't an original question as I've seen it in print with other artists/celebrities but I don't think I've read anyone asking Joni it. I liked his question on who she wished she could have met. I loved her answer as well (Picasso and Nietzsche, Nietzsche had lots of great ideas you know). Last but not least, I loved the brief clips they showed of Joni performing and of the ballet. You have to see it to believe it. -Monika Jeannie wrote: Thanks for bringing up for us what Mr. Brian Miller wrote on the Charlie Rose.com, Patti. He was right on, concerning those blah, blah, blah, bumbling prime time channel season television show executives. So boring and they sounded off as tinkling cymbals and pounding brass, even though I wasn't listening. They were just there in front of my face. They put me in a bad mood and I was saying out loud, "Shut the freaking hell up, already--I can't take these fluffy-wuffy bull crap conversations over my television set as I'm waiting for Joni to come on!" I mean, are there actually intelliegent folk out there who view Charlie Rose's show as better than most, only to listen to who's doing what and what is going on, on ABC, NBC and CBS? I thought, "Is Charlie Rose genius enough to put these blabbering men right before Joni, just as a contrast, between the shadows and the lights? Or is he oblivious to it all?" Charlie Rose seemed to be right at home with those guys and out of touch with our Joan. She mentally hesitated a couple of times with his weird energy towards her. Maybe he doesn't get it?! I thought he was more intelligent than that! Obviously, not the way I thought he was! And last night he proved it. Maybe he was intimidated with Joni's ultimate grace that flows with Nature and not the Fall TV show ratings. Jeannie ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-joni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 nj ' - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:51:17 +0100 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Well, the interview has finally been posted. I don't really understand what everyone is making such a fuss about. He seemed much friendlier to and even interested in Joni and much more personable than he seemed in his interview with Jewel, and Joni didn't seem uncomfortable at all. I find it interesting to watch her and to hear whatever she has to say. I've never heard her equate herself to Picasso and Nietzsche before - that was a first. Marian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:17:46 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Gibson Robot guitar This guitar looks really cool, but it does not say weather you can make your own presets for Joni tunings. The sound of the guitar is that of a normal Les Paul (one sound only) the VG-8 has umteen sounds of acoustics, electrics, dobro, banjo, mandolin, basses, and synth sounds. It also has on board effects (which Joni likes alot things like Chorus and Delay and reverb) that make it sound very processed. I just purchased the new VG-99 before I came out on this tour so I have not had a chance to crack the box. I have been reading the manual and it is an incredible box. Of course the sounds are greatly improved and more programming available on All levels. It also interfaces directly with your Mac or PC and you can store your edited sounds and banks of sounds on the computer. can't wait to get home and plug in my Parker and get rolling programming my Joni tunings. I will post on this again and let you guys know what is happening. Thanks for posting about the Robot Gibson. Paz in Mexico DF Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:38 AM, c Karma wrote: I don't think it's going to replace the VG-8 for Joni, although it's likely that something else has by now. Joni's system made use of the ultra light Parker Fly to ameliorate the pain from her post polio syndrome. I'd bet that the Gibson Robot is heavier than a standard axe due to the mechanical complexity. Even with all the microprocessors, it's physically tuning the strings. I'm sure that the sound will be less artificial than the Fly/VG-8 since the strings will maintain their mechanically sonorous qualities. The available tunings seem limited, and don't begin to approach the quantity that Joni might use in a single performance, if such a blessed event will ever occur again. If the tunings are customizable this guitar might serve her well in the studio, but I can't see her standing and wearing it for hours at a time. CC _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:19:20 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Robot Guitar News story w/Joni mention You know I feel them same way Marian. Who wants to tune tune tune when you can play play play. Come on over next week and try out my new VG-99. Love Pa Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 14, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Marian Russell wrote: from the article: <<'But the announcement has already created a backlash among some, who call it "lazy" and predict the fine art of guitar tuning by trained ears could be lost if the technology spreads.'>> What rubbish! People who can tune things will still be able to tune things and probably wouldn't need a guitar like this anyway, except that, like the VG-8, it could enable them to switch from one tuning to another more quickly than if they had to do manually. From the little promotional video that Mark sent a link to earlier, however, you still have to push buttons and look at lights, so the VG-8 is still faster - just not as compact as having it all inside the guitar - and more versatile - the VG-8 has more sounds and nearly infinite tuning possibilities with a range of +24 and -24 half tones away from standard tuning. Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: Robot Guitar News story w/Joni mention > http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_16738.aspx > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Joni and Jewel. Marian wrote >>>>However, when I first went to the site to try to find it, one of the things that came up rather prominently as an option was an interview of Jewel. I don't really know her or her music, but since she has been compared to Joni in the past, +++++ Jewel is another good musician who is highly influenced by Joni (she said that). I have her first 4 albums (she has released 5). And now, after knowing Joni, i listened to those 4 albums again as if i had not heard them before. And yes. I think her first 2 albums were intended to be another Blue album. Specially her first album, Pieces of Me, on that album, shes like a cellophane, so defenseless, just like Blue. Her lyrics are good, some of them are confessional (check You Were Meant For Me), her guitar playing was OK, but still so far away from Jonis Blue. My favorite verses, from the song Morning Song: Well sit on the front porch. The sun can warm my feet. You can drink your coffee with sugar and cream. Ill drink my decaf herbal tea. Pretend were perfect strangers and that we never met. My how you remind me of a man i used to sleep with that face id never forget. You can be Henry Miller. And Ill be Anais Nin. Except this time itll be even better. Well stay together in the end. Come on darling, lets go back to bed. Put the phone machine on hold. Leave the dishes in the sink. Do not answer the door. Its you that i adore  Im gonna give you some more. Marian, if you read rollingstone magazine greatest artist of all time issue, youll find that Joni is number 60. And Jewel wrote the description about Joni. This is what she wrote : Joni Mitchell is a bigger icon than she is a star. Bob Dylan and Keith Richards became famous in such a worldwide way that they became stars and icons. But Joni is still quite unknown to a lot of people. The impact she had wasn't big and flashy. But she influenced people who became stars. I remember a friend in high school playing me "A Case of You," from Blue, and me liking it -- a lot. I could tell that Joni was a painter by the way she wrote lyrics. She describes smells and sounds to translate what is happening in her songs, using fewer words to transmit more feeling. Her melodies are all about shapes. The singing lines are slow, steep plateaus. One of the things that I learned from Joni, and that I love about her: If you can tell the story right and keep things moving, you don't need to return to the chorus on time. Joni never tries to make herself more perfect in her lyrics. What she writes is closer to journalism: On Blue, you hear everything she experienced, the highs and the lows. It's such a lonely album: not in the "I don't have any friends" sense but in the sense that you're a little bit removed, and always watching. And it takes a lot of courage to be that honest, especially as a woman -- to talk about love and other intimate things so frankly. When she first did it, it was a very fluffy time -- pretty girls singing about pretty things. Joni had an edginess that not many women expressed then. Most women singers had strong vibratos and a lot of mascara. Joni Mitchell never made a big deal out of being a woman. She had such a strong sexuality, but she didn't feel the need to deny that part of her in order to be taken seriously. She also didn't play it up -- although many of her songs are about sex. I met her only once, at a Vanity Fair photo shoot. It sounds like a pathetically feeble Hollywood story, but Stevie Wonder introduced us. He took my hand -- I guess I led him to her -- and he said, "Joni, I'd like you to meet Jewel." I just shook her hand and tried to swallow. I didn't have anything to say to her. Her influence on me is so obvious. I hope she can hear it. So Marian, IMO listening to Jewels first album this weekend is not a bad idea. Rian NP. Jewel. Serve The Ego. PS: I slept last night in a good hotel I went shopping today for jewels - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. 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