From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #323 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 13 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 323 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Painting with words and music query [S Thomas ] SJC Dog eat Dog [missblux@googlemail.com] sjc, Nobel Prizes [Patti Parlette ] Shawn Colvin and Joni ["Cassy" ] Re: sjc, Nobel Prizes [jeannie ] SV: dog eat dog ["Marion Leffler" ] SV: dog eat dog ["Marion Leffler" ] People ["Jerry Notaro" ] pretty picture of Joni from 1970 [Deb Messling ] Joni's political songs... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Joni's political songs [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: pretty picture of Joni from 1970 [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Joni's political songs... [Em ] Re: sjc, Nobel Prizes [Catherine McKay ] Re: SV: dog eat dog [Catherine McKay ] RE: JMDL Digest V2007 #411 (SJC) [Sherelle Smith ] sjc, nobel prizes [Marianne Rizzo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:43:15 +1030 From: S Thomas Subject: Painting with words and music query Hello, My apologies if this is a silly question, but having just recently seen Woman of Heart and Mind, and the bonus songs from Painting with Words and Music, is this concert only available on DVD? Is the music available on CD? The guitar she plays has a fabulous sound. Regards, Susan _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:56:39 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: SJC Dog eat Dog I guess everyone has heard this before but... 'cynic' and 'cynical' are from Greek kynikos, which means doggish; 'dog' is _kyon_ in Greek. (The word was borrowed by the Romans as cynicus, and eventually they began to pronounce the c as an s, and it was passed on to us in the pronunciation 'synical'). Obviously you are cynical if you think it's a dog-eat-dog world. Doctress B ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:43:29 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc, Nobel Prizes Woke up to hear that the Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. "We face a true planetary emergency," Gore wrote on his Web site this morning, adding that he is "deeply honored" to win the award. "The climate crisis in not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level." I'll bet Joni is saying: "Good on you!" Ms. Treegreen, too. Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place. And when it was announced that Doris Lessing won the Nobel Prize in Literature, and that her first novel was "The Grass is Singing", did anyone else think of The Hissing of Summer Lawns? Happy Friday! Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:01:16 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Shawn Colvin and Joni They' did a bit on the Seattle radio this morning about Shawn Colvin and Joni. One of our local radio stations has released their 2007 compilation "Live From the Mountain Music Lounge" which has Shawn doing "Fill Me Up". It is available from Starbucks and was released the same day as Joni's "Shine". They commented that they've been asked several times how they were able to get an artist of Shawn's caliber to participate in this project and jokingly said it's because of a "feud" and Shawn decided to participate so that she could beat Joni by selling more records on release day. The local radio release did in fact beat Joni at the Seattle area Starbucks for the entire first week. It's actually a pretty good CD: Keane - Is It Any Wonder Michael Franti - I Know I'm Not Alone Shawn Colvin - Fill Me Up Paul Simon - Father and Daughter Ray LaMontagne - Till The Sun Turns Black Gomez - See the World Rodrigo y Gabriela - Tamacun Regina Spektor - Fidelity John Butler Trio - Better Than The English Beat - Save It For Later Brett Dennen - She's Mine Brandi Carlile - The Story The Damnwells - Golden Days Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars Patty Griffin - Heavenly Day Low Stars - Calling All Friends Matt Nathanson - Car Crash Amos Lee - Shout Out Loud Warmly Cassy NP: Scissor Sisters - Take Your Mama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:01:47 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: sjc, Nobel Prizes Patti, on today's early morning news, before I fell asleep, they mentioned that Al Gore may possibly run for the presidency. There's some kind of online petition to recruit Gore onto the ticket. Hillary seems kinda pissed! Well, Gore may sound like a good choice. A glimmer more of hope, though I still do not know who I'd be voting for. I like many of the Democratic candidates, but I still don't know which one of them possesses the greatest conviction, like most of us do here, to rid our skies of those white washed hawk-eye militants, and who peddle hate, calling it love. I hear the cries of so many doves and songbirds in the dungeon, more than ready to spread their wings. Patti P., with you I can paint pictures of hope in my head, for our planet. You should play around with the BYT lyrics, changing the picture a full circle around. :) Jeannie PS: Patti, let's hop a ride on the backs of those pretty painted ponies on the carousel of time, way down yonder. PS II: Hey Patti, really, thanks for your poltical fervor. It's highly appreciated by me. Patti Parlette wrote: Woke up to hear that the Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. "We face a true planetary emergency," Gore wrote on his Web site this morning, adding that he is "deeply honored" to win the award. "The climate crisis in not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level." I'll bet Joni is saying: "Good on you!" Ms. Treegreen, too. Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place. And when it was announced that Doris Lessing won the Nobel Prize in Literature, and that her first novel was "The Grass is Singing", did anyone else think of The Hissing of Summer Lawns? Happy Friday! Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:00:45 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: dog eat dog Thank you, Jerry, from another non-native English speaker! I've been wondering the same as Rian but were afraid to ask:-)Your explanations are crystal clear. Thanks again. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Jerry Notaro Skickat: den 11 oktober 2007 19:45 Till: rian afriadi; Joni List Dmne: Re: dog eat dog It comes from the expression, "It's a dog eat dog world." From GoEnglish: Dog-Eat-Dog ( people are looking out for their own interests ... ) "dog-eat-dog" "dog-eat-dog" Dog-eat-dog describes a world in which people fight for themselves only and will hurt other people. Example: "I have been in this business for twenty years. It's dog-eat-dog. The competition is always trying to steal your customers." Dog-eat-dog means that a person is like a dog that will eat another dog. Sometimes people say, "It's a dog-eat-dog world", as an excuse when they have hurt another person. Example: "I can't believe you sold him your motorcycle for so much money!" Reply: "Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world." It's a dog-eat-dog world means that you must first watch out for your own interests, because other people will be watching out for theirs. There is no letter s at the end of any of the words in dog-eat-dog. "Example: "That school is dog-eat-dog. The students cheat and even destroy each other's work to get better grades." > i'm not english native speaker > i don't understand the term "dog eat dog" > can > you help me? > i know the meaning can not be "a dog bit another dog and then ate > it". > > NP : Harlem In Havana > ____________________________________________________________________________ _ > _______ > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user > panel and lay it on us. > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:02:28 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: dog eat dog Thank you, too, Catherine! Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Catherine McKay Skickat: den 12 oktober 2007 00:18 Till: rian afriadi; joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: dog eat dog - --- rian afriadi wrote: > i'm not english native speaker > i don't understand the term "dog eat dog" > can > you help me? > i know the meaning can not be "a dog bit another dog > and then ate > it". > > NP : Harlem In Havana > It means that it's a mean, dirty old world, so everyone for himself (herself.) People will get you, if you don't get them first. Here's another use of the expression in "Cloud 9" by the Temptations: Folks now they tell me. They say, give yourself a chance and don't let life pass you by. But the world around you is a rat race Where only the strong survive. It's a dog-eat-dog world and that ain't no lie. (Ain't no lie) Listen, it ain't even safe no more, to walk the streets at night. Here's another animal expression: Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:44:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: People Shine is the top Quick Cut in the new People Magazine. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Deb Messling Subject: pretty picture of Joni from 1970 Found this picture rooting around in one of my library databases. I haven't seen it before and thought it was sweet: http://sensibleshoes.vox.com/library/post/old-photo-of-joni-mitchell.html Deb Messling http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni's political songs... Well there has been some talk of Joni's love/life songs vs. Joni's political/socially conscious songs. We know Joni's more known for her love/confessional/life songs but she's done quite a bit of political work (with the latest being Shine) that can't be denied. That being said, what is your favorite political song that Joni has written? -Monika - --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni's political songs Well there has been some talk of Joni's love/life songs vs. Joni's political/socially conscious songs. We know Joni's more known for her love/confessional/life songs but she's done quite a bit of political work (with the latest being Shine) that can't be denied. That being said, what is your favorite political song that Joni has written? -Monika (My apologies if this posts more than once!) - --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:08:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: pretty picture of Joni from 1970 Thanks for posting this! It is a pretty picture! -Monika Deb Messling wrote: Found this picture rooting around in one of my library databases. I haven't seen it before and thought it was sweet: http://sensibleshoes.vox.com/library/post/old-photo-of-joni-mitchell.html Deb Messling http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:47:22 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Joni's political songs... I guess we'd have to define "political." I think the songs on Shine are more spiritual/moral than political, swipes at "lousy leadership" notwithstanding. But if can use your phrase "socially conscious" rather than "political," I think my favorite might be Banquet. "Dog Eat Dog" (the song) is up there, too. At 04:58 PM 10/12/2007, you wrote: > Well there has been some talk of Joni's love/life songs vs. > Joni's political/socially conscious songs. We know Joni's more > known for her love/confessional/life songs but she's done quite a > bit of political work (with the latest being Shine) that can't be > denied. That being said, what is your favorite political song that > Joni has written? -Monika > > >--------------------------------- >Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni's political songs... "Banquet" and "Turbulent Indigo". Is "Cold Blue Steel" political? I love it most... Em - --- Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Well there has been some talk of Joni's love/life songs vs. Joni's > political/socially conscious songs. We know Joni's more known for her > love/confessional/life songs but she's done quite a bit of political > work (with the latest being Shine) that can't be denied. That being > said, what is your favorite political song that Joni has written? "You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm." Sidonie Gabrielle Colette ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: sjc, Nobel Prizes - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Woke up to hear that the Nobel Peace Prize has been > awarded to Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental > Panel on Climate Change. > Yup. I was pleased to read that. Congratulations to algore. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: SV: dog eat dog - --- Marion Leffler wrote: > Thank you, Jerry, from another non-native English > speaker! I've been > wondering the same as Rian but were afraid to > ask:-)Your explanations are > crystal clear. Thanks again. > Marion > Don't ever be afraid to ask. Someone always knows the answer. Whether it's what kind of headphones to buy, or the meaning of a word or expression. I didn't know about the origin of the word "cynic" until Bene explained. It's so cool that there is always at least ONE person who has the answer. (Go ask the dancer.) Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:49:51 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2007 #411 (SJC) I am also about 10,000 digests behind but wanted to say that you are in my heart. I feel terrible that I am so behind! There seems not to be enough time anymore. Sigh... I am listening to Shine and I really like it. It reminds me of both Taming the Tiger and Turbulent Indigo but it has a style and flair of it's own. I think I really like Hana best right now, that may change. I love hearing Joni play piano again. I love hearing her voice after so many years. I've never heard anything after Turbulent Indigo. She has a deep a smoky voice that I really like. Is it Brian Blade on drums? (I'm listening Strong and Wrong) Also like Shine...actually like all of the songs in different ways. I love any direction that Joni feels to take with her music. I have loved and admired her creativity and her willingness to do what she wants to do instead of what's popular. She's at a different place in her life and her music reflects it. My ears welcome it. Paz, I'm so happy you cna make that tribute! I emailed you earlier today figuring you were probably on the road but wanted to tell you how happy you can make it! That's wonederful. I've never seen Joni live and would probably hop a plane to go see her now. Happy to hear such good things about Randall's music! Wonderful! I wish him the best of success! Patti my dear friend, I am so sorry that I have been out of touch! Life has been good but crazy as you well know. I will keep that person you responded to and her father in my heart and prayers as well. Please forgive that I can't remember the spelling of her name. I'm trying to remember as much as I can from this digest. Ooh Patti, Shine is right down your heart-line my friend! Ann Wilson of Heart has a solo CD coming out called Hope and Glory. I think you would be moved to hear the songs she covers. I absolutely LOVE her voice! She rocks forever! My thoughts go to Kakki and hopes that she is recovering well. (Just thought I'd add that for my friend). Everyone take care of yourselves and love one another as much as sisters and brothers can! That's kind of what we are here. Again, apologies for being so behind in digests! Love, Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:11:03 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: [none] ~ , l lET yOUR little LIGht . . . . . . ~ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:33:57 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: sjc, nobel prizes ~ >Congratulations to>algore.yes, I'm for Al He's mY gUY (these are my buttons. . . imagine them round.) And congratulations to us all . . now It is up to the rest of us to carry on the message of what is good for all. - --- Patti Parlette wrote:> Woke up to hear that the Nobel Peace Prize has been> awarded to Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental> Panel on Climate Change.> Yup. I was pleased to read that. Congratulations toalgore.Catherine ~ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. 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