From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #307 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, October 1 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 307 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: TV Alert: HUGE JONI CONTENT [Moni Kellermann ] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #394 [Blithe60@wmconnect.com] Bjork's boho dance [Garret ] Re: Good morning sjc [Michael Paz ] Joni on Sunday Morning [Warrenkeith91354@aol.com] Re: Bjork's boho dance [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni on Sunday Morning [] Re: Joni on Sunday Morning [Warrenkeith91354@aol.com] Re: Joni on Sunday Morning [] phrase in SHINE ["Marianne Rizzo" ] RE: TV Alert: HUGE now down to small JONI CONTENT [Patti Parlette ] Joni on CBS & other Press ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case [Bob Muller ] JM audi-video-fotos ["Barbara Stewart" Subject: Re: TV Alert: HUGE JONI CONTENT Wie Patti Parlette so vortrefflich formulierte: > Joni is supposed to be on the CBS Sunday Morning Show tomorrow, 9 > a.m. EST. The website http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/09/sunday/main13562.shtml does not mention Joni Mitchell but lists Annie Lennox. moni ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:40:11 EDT From: Blithe60@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #394 I am learning them now. Piano with slight clarinet. Beautiful Joni, beautiful work. Viva La Joni, she comes again. I think the critics should understand something about the test of time, they seem to evacuate all the right words but with little real understanding. Their loss. Evil thought: Like Islam, who keeps woman from speaking publicly, CRITICS: Paper stuffed, well...........less harsh: Don't write about what you don't understand. Some minds can't compute a great masterpiece, Ellington, Greig. Would Joni be any different? Good day to all, JiTh t > , > So I was wondering if anyone hoere is going to learn to play any of the > songs > from Shine whether it be on guitar or piano? I heard so many wonderful S > performances of Joni songs (and non Joni songs for that matter) at Jonifest > it > makes me wonder if anyone will choose songs from this album. What song > would > you/will you cover? > - -Monika > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:57:17 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Bjork's boho dance I have been rediscovering my love for Bjork's music as much as my love for Joni. I can't find my copy of the tribute album right now and really want to hear Boho dance by Bjork. Would anyone be kind enough to send me an mp3 of this inspired version of an amazing song? I saw Bjork play at a festival recently. It was great. I was worried that, after so many years of being a fan, i would inevitably be disappointed. So wrong. Cirque de Bjork was a great experience. GARRET NP- Fujiya & Miyagi, In one ear & out the other ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:33:00 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Good morning sjc Hi Garret- My tribute album is packed away in my suitcase and I am on the road to the airport in Nashville. I will get it out and try to email that to you before I get on the plane if we have time before the plane leaves if no one else can help you out. I too have been enjoying reading everyones reactions to the new music. I quite like TTT so I can identify with most people that have problems with it or the VG-8 (which I love and have just ordered a VG-99 the latest greatest from Roland with improves acoustic sounds and much more programability) I am particularly fond of Love Puts On A New Face, which since I have been playing that song my wife says it sounds like such a sad song. I think it is joyful song so I guess it's just what makes us all different. I also LOVE Stay In Touch and Loves Cries. The only one I really don't are for is No Apologies on that album. On the new album I like it all except for Hana which I find annoying cause of the incessant drum loop. Elsewise I think it is terrific and can't wait till the new one which I hear is in her contract. We are riding to Nashvegas right now to catch a plane and listening to the new Herbie which all my jazz boys are enjoying. Best Paz NP-Amelia-Herbie Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 30, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Garret wrote: Good morning, i hope people are having good days. I have been having difficulty getting involved in discussion threads recently as i am so very far behind on digest. There have been many very interesting threads recently. Just wanted to say that. Some random thoughts to mark "Joni Month": Have listened to Shine twice through now. I am surprised. Musically, i quite like it. In fact. there were moments that left me very surprised. I was prepared to be underwhelmed. I doubted whether Joni could maintain my interest. This is a lot easier to listen to and, in my opinion, more memorable than TTT, which, let's face it, would not be all that difficult. So, on the surface, i am pleased. I'm still digesting and don't want to tie myself down to anything just yet, but i think it is a fairly mixed bag. I'm loving Shine, Night of the Iguana, and Bad Dreams. The opening track is interesting. I have always wanted Joni to make an instrumental album. I find it far too long though. BYT is pointless and uninteresting. It has none of the spark of the original. My view will inevitably change a number of times in the next while. I have been listening to a lot of Joni lately. The Herbie Hancock album has not yet arrived, but i am looking forward to it. GARRET NP- Fujiya & Miyagi, Photocopier ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:35:39 EDT From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Joni on Sunday Morning Hi all...sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the Sunday morning site at CBS.com list Annie Lennox as this weeks guest. Jonily yours, Warren Keith ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:35:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Bjork's boho dance Garret - your Bjork is attached. I accidentally called it "The Bobo Dance" which gave me a pretty good chuckle. Also, here's a link where you (and anyone else for that matter) can get Herbie's cover of "A fCase Of You". It's not included on the US domestic release, nor on the Amazon issue, nor the I-tunes download. (Warning - it's an instrumental, so if those soprts of things make you angry - be forewarned. I will not be responsible for any acts of terrorism caused by exposure to this track). http://tinyurl.com/3ydeq8 Bob NP: Karrin Allyson, "Blue Motel Room" PS: Get off digest - you'll have an earier time of keeping up. Really. - --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type audio/mpeg which had a name of Bjork - The Bobo Dance.mp3] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 9:29:53 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Joni on Sunday Morning BUT a story on one of Joni's childhood heroes, Gene Autrey! Jerry - ---- Warrenkeith91354@aol.com wrote: > Hi all...sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the Sunday morning site at > CBS.com list Annie Lennox as this weeks guest. Jonily yours, Warren Keith > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:43:03 EDT From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on Sunday Morning wasn't Joni at the dedication of a museum or some such event awhile back...could it be? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:20:46 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Joni on Sunday Morning And performed one her best live concerts ever. Jerry - ---- Warrenkeith91354@aol.com wrote: > wasn't Joni at the dedication of a museum or some such event awhile > back...could it be? > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:40:15 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: phrase in SHINE LCStanley7@aol.com writes: Is there a phrase in SHINE that particularly jumps out and grooves you? g rooves you? grooves you? grooves you? GReat question. "they paved paradise and they put up a parking lot." "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone." THIS is the first thing I thought of when I read the question .. I will never tire of this song. . never, ever. "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone." even tho I think of this all the time. . all the time, all the time. . it still hits my heart when something is lost. . . that even tho I have this loving warning, . . that I am still caught by surprise when something is gone.. . and that I feel that I did not know what I had. tho I try I try to appreciate and cherrish what 'I got. There is no pill for me tho I search. lOve Marianne ps. I will think of this question with the new music too Laura. XOXO _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:44:04 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: TV Alert: HUGE now down to small JONI CONTENT Oh, Dears. I couldn't sleep at all last night I was tossing and turning turnin' and tossin, tossin' and turnin'all night I slept on the strange pillows of my Jonilust I dreamed of Joni on CBS Over censors' bleeping warns Dreams JMDLAmelias - dreams and false alarms. Kind of a portrait of a disappointment. Sweet dreams are made of these, as Annie now tells us. Everybody's lookin' for something... And I was looking for Joni. But instead, we got: Gene Autrey for Hillybilly Bob, and you know... And Annie Lennox. Annie is very good -- great even -- but she ain't Joni. Although there are similarities: The thinking person's rock star... Artistic bent in school... Dropped out of music school, too restrictive... Ignoring record companies looking for more commercial success...(behind the popular song) "Like people that paint paintings, and they tell you they want more blue..." (TIC: Blue!)....("A painter paints a painting"....."paint a Starry Night again, man!") Songs of mass destruction.... (Shine on mass destruction....) We live in tenuous times...(Holy war Genocide Suicide) If I could dream and not let Joni dreams be my master I'd be alright I know You'll be alright You'll be alright. I just need another sleep song. Graham/Willy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDT8_bXJZXQ "While the song that he sang her To soothe her to sleep Runs all through her circuits Like a heartbeat..." Bed peace, Patti P. ________________________________ I'll be at work but I already made sure my sister knows to throw a tape in the vcr at 9! I told her it was of the utmost importance--life or death.> -Monika> ________________________________> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:32:51 -0400 From: motitan@aol.com Subject: Some Joni on YouTube to check out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCsz9uh_BuI?(Hejira live in Japan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ggfs2kgfY?(Slouching Towards Bethleham in NY) (There's actually quite a bit of footage from these two concerts if you care to look....) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoG2pMBAOQ?(Music video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG9K6Zoa7FY?(Joni on Rosie O'Donnell doing Harry's House) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_rl5nSkpqc?(Help Me live in '74) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_qzTpoqpo?(Joni in '86 with some booing) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALSKcWcVEk? (Joni with Johnny Cash) A little fun for your Sunday..... - -Monika ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:37:45 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: TV Alert: HUGE now down to small JONI CONTENT >Dreams JMDLAmelias - dreams and false alarms. good try baby. .. _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case - --- Bob Muller wrote: > here's a link where you (and anyone else for > that matter) can get Herbie's cover of "A fCase Of > You". It's not included on the US domestic release, > nor on the Amazon issue, nor the I-tunes download. > (Warning - it's an instrumental, so if those soprts > of things make you angry - be forewarned. I will not > be responsible for any acts of terrorism caused by > exposure to this track). > > http://tinyurl.com/3ydeq8 > I'm listening to it now and I'm absolutely livid. Where are the fecking words? But seriously, what pisses me off is that they release different versions of the same album. Why do they leave things off the North American version? This is a very pretty arrangement, by the way. Too bad about the lyrics though. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:36:45 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case Shame on you for disseminating this, Mr. Muller. The very thought that people might listen to this make me feel like I'm going to blow a gasket. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:56 PM To: Bob Muller; Garret; Joni LIST Subject: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case - --- Bob Muller wrote: > here's a link where you (and anyone else for > that matter) can get Herbie's cover of "A fCase Of > You". It's not included on the US domestic release, > nor on the Amazon issue, nor the I-tunes download. > (Warning - it's an instrumental, so if those soprts > of things make you angry - be forewarned. I will not > be responsible for any acts of terrorism caused by > exposure to this track). > > http://tinyurl.com/3ydeq8 > I'm listening to it now and I'm absolutely livid. Where are the fecking words? But seriously, what pisses me off is that they release different versions of the same album. Why do they leave things off the North American version? This is a very pretty arrangement, by the way. Too bad about the lyrics though. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:20:34 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: JM on CBS Darn! Missed it! The curse of being in digest mode! Did it get recorded? Is anyone planning a tree? B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:24:21 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Joni on CBS & other Press I taped the show but when they went through the segments at the beginning, it was Annie Lenox they were going to feature so I figured it was unlikely they'd feature Joni as well. So I erased it. Maybe next week. I also got my People this week and in Albums, they had a small photo and blurb on Herbie's album but no Joni. But another big feature on Annie. Hmmm. Who's her PR agent?? (Oh, unrelated to Joni, there's a feature on Heather Locklear and when she is asked how she has kept up her looks, the standard Hollywood response: "Oh, good diet and lots of sleep!" Yeah, right.) I'm having a hard time liking "Shine" but am giving it a few more chances because I often react badly to the first few listens of a Joni album. Needless to say, my kids hated it right out of the gate. Sigh. I'm not fond of all the synth sound and found a direct opposite when Stevie Wonder's Superstition came on the radio. The horn section just gives that song so much life whereas I think it would have livened up Joni's arrangements on Shine to have musicians instead of keyboard imitations. I also find too many similarities to what she's done before, the "Sex Kills" similarity as we've mentioned. I also hear a repeat of "Job's Sad Song" in "If." So far I don't find the lyrics especially inspired, sort of seems like a bunch of throwaway lines she scribbled down on a piece of paper. I know "Fiction" from DED was a similar circumstance of pages and pages of opposites but it seems a better crafted song. And I find too much repetitious notes in songs, for instance "If." The opening instrumental seems unshapen to me, not quite a fully formed composed piece. Just kind of meanders and meanders, never really having a beginning, middle and end, never building up to anything. "Paprika Plains" did a fair amount of meandering, but I think it had more cohesiveness. I'll probably regret saying any of this in a few more days, but that's my feeling for the time being. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case And in the case of this project, as I've stated before, it's highly confusing. The itunes release adds the dangerous "Harlem In Havana" & "I Had A King" (both worth having and clocking in at over 8 minutes apiece), the Amazon release adds Sonya Kitchell's vocal on "All I Want", and the import version adds the riot-inducing "A Case Of You". I'm with you, Catherine - if you weren't paying close attention and wanted to have it all you would potentially have to buy this album 4 times! Madness, I say. Bob NP: Joni, "Electricity" - --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:27:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case I received my Herbie along with Shine of course through Amazon and ACOY is definitely on my CD and is also listed on the website as an Amazon exclusive. So go figure. I am loving Shine but I'm really speechless until I feel I have something more intelligent to say about it. Suffice it to say some of it was immediately accessible and some of the other tunes pose more of a challenge... but that's a discussion for another time... signing off for now, Peace, David - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:54:10 -0700 From: "William Elliott" Subject: Favorite Shine Lyrics The question: Is there a phrase in SHINE that particularly jumps out and grooves you? I like the dazzling darkness restoring us in deep sleep and what we throw away and keep, which is a great segue to Rev. Pearson discarding the heaven/hell scam which has empowered Christianity, in particular, for eons. Similar to John Murray and Thomas Potter, who introduced the idea of Christian Universalism to America in the 18th century, espousing the ideas that God is not the thunderbolt-hurling task-master but a loving force and hell/heaven are human constructs. These were pretty radical (even dangerous) ideas to introduce in a Puritan era. This idea is also referenced in If I Had A Heart...I like the verbal, visual, aural reference to Dickens, Rembrandt, and Beethoven coupled with the smell of sod. JM should be made an honorary Unitarian Universalist. Click for free info on rehab treatments for drug & alcohol dependency.

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Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:28:35 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: JM audi-video-fotos This banner ad for Shine on The Nation webstie has an interview w/Joni.. http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?pid=237751 Hope it's still there when you click in... B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:46:56 -0400 From: lmontelione@netscape.net Subject: Green Flag Song Hi Everyone, I've been literally submerged in Joni-land lately what with learning all new music of Shine and enjoying immensely Herbie Hancock's River the Joni Letters!? I did come up for a breath to drive from the shore of NJ?to Mulberry Street NYC and take in the Green Flag Song exhibit. It was impressive, to say the least.? The images are haunting -- mostly war, death, even a triptych of crucifixion.? I spent a few hours there.?? Shine was playing over and over in accompaniment.? Many people were coming in from the crowded street.? There was a guest book for comments, in which?lots of?people wrote lovely things to Joni.? I purchased a catalogue which will be signed by Joni tonight and then sent to me.??? It was a great experience -- part two of the current Joni Trilogy --?now to see the Ballet!? I did hear from the exhibit curator that it will be screened at the Woodstock Film Festival on October 10th. Also, I have heard from a very reliable source that the Joni segment is tentatively scheduled for 11/4 on CBS Sunday Morning. much Joni to all, Linda P.S.? It was great spending some time with you, CC, at the gallery. ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:17:58 -0400 From: "Jim Kauffman" Subject: RE: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 I know not everyone on this list is into jazz, but after nearly a week I can't take Herbie Hancock's River off my CD player (except for Shine, of course). It's not Cole Porter, it's not Rogers & Hart, it's not Duke Ellington--it's Joni, given her songwriting props like never before. These are guy who played with Miles Davis when they were in short pants, creating a totally new kind of music. In their current prime, they can play anything they want and sell lots of CDs and pack concert houses. Hancock and Shorter have created astonishing music in the last ten years, breaking out of their fusion experiments into pure, delicious art. And they've chosen Joni's music to shine on. Joni must be as proud of this as anything anyone's ever done with her music. This is a level of respect and admiration by the world's finest musicians that none of her peers have ever achieved. None. Not Dylan, not the Beatles, not the Stones, not James Taylor or Jackson Browne. And nevermind the honor. This is a wonderful work of art that stands completely on its own merits--no "tribute" album here. This is a career peak that songwriters and musicians only dream of. Congratulations, Joni! Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 18:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: RE: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 Jim Kauffman wrote: >>>Joni must be as proud of this as anything anyone's ever done with her music. This is a level of respect and admiration by the world's finest musicians that none of her peers have ever achieved. None. Not Dylan, not the Beatles, not the Stones, not James Taylor or Jackson Browne. I couldn't agree more, Jim. Joni is in a different league than the other songwriters of her generation, and having musicians of this caliber take her this seriously is evidence of that. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:36:46 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 On Sep 30, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Michael Flaherty wrote: > I couldn't agree more, Jim. Joni is in a different league than the > other songwriters of her generation, and having musicians of this > caliber take her this seriously is evidence of that. > > Michael Flaherty I'm looking forward to getting the Herbie Hancock cd from Amazon, hopefully this week. I think it's awesome that this project was done, and can't wait to hear it. However, I don't think Joni belongs in a league by herself. Jazz musicians have been playing Stevie Wonder songs for years. The music of the Grateful Dead was recently arranged in a classical symphonic work. Joni's great but she's not above all the other songwriters of her generation. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Bo...Sunday night in response to most recent Digest Hi!!! The recent postings indicate that so many JMDLers have been provoked or evoked to express some really very intense and sometimes disturbing threads. I either come away from reading a Digest feeling really out-of-it....plain right down and dirty DUMB.....sometimes confused and even (a BIG one for me...) the confusion bubbles down deeper into negativity. Just have to tell you this: I LEARN so much from participating/reading/and posting my immediate reactions and responses to a particular posting and/or Digest. I am really fascinated by the event of Joni sharing the amazing gift of "Shine" and seemingly evoking/provoking...who cares which one?....so much related and unrelated strong emotion. Does anyone else find this interesting????????? Anyhow....I'll do some thinking and write more later. BUT...a HUGE thank you to Patti for telling us about Dr. Sacks' new book. He's amazing. Jeannie and Aleda....I have to find your original postings and follow them through to begin to understand what's being exchanged between you....in a bit of a fog right now. As so many of us were....I sat in a similar fashion to a 15 year old waiting to hear her/his "idol" being interviewed and AGAIN this "Sunday Morning" was so disappointing. I really thought we'd see Joni because "Shine" was released this week. For me...(switching gears, here), Joni's words "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone" continues to enrich my view of the circumstances of my life, the lives of others, our planet, war, peace(?), protest...and the list goes on.... Later.... Love, Peace and here's to enjoying the richness of thinking, feeling and having an arena to SHARE (or "Shine"?) with this Digest family. Bo - --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 Victor Johnson wrote: >>> However, I don't think Joni belongs in a league by herself. Jazz musicians have been playing Stevie Wonder songs for years. The music of the Grateful Dead was recently arranged in a classical symphonic work. Joni's great but she's not above all the other songwriters of her generation. I doubt that Herbie or Wayne (or Jaco or ... any other jazz musician I care about) would agree with you. Metallica has been arranged for classical players too. I don't know what else to say. I mean, if you really believe the Grateful Dead wrote as great of songs as Joni, there's not much I can say (or would want to say) to dissuade you. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 Very true, and I had the same thought when I went to Wall To Wall Joni in NYC back in '02. There was a long string of previous honorees; mostly classical composers, and others like Rodgers, Gershwin, Porter, Joni was the ONLY entry from the rock/pop era. Also cool that people like US can recognize that while so many others are oblivious to it. Makes us kinda special too. Bob NP: Foo Fighters, "X-Static" - --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: was Bjork's boho dance now Herbie's missing Case Interesting, David - I was unaware of that. And unfortunately his website is not a lot of help in terms of navigating all of the different versions. Bob NP: Paul Anka, "Both Sides Now" - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:45:18 -0400 From: "Jim Kauffman" Subject: RE: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 Lots of tribute albums are done for novelty or commercial reasons. Frank Zappa is one exception, Joni is another. When the finest artists of our time decide to pay tribute to another musician, that's certainly validating. When people like Hancock and Shorter take the compositions of another musician and elevate them to their level of the musical stratosphere, that's something else. These guy KNOW songs by great songwriters, and they've decided Joni's songs work for them at the same level as the American Songbook folks--and beyond. The great jazz writers as well. Mingus knew an artist when he heard one (and there were plenty of talented people he didn't like as composers). You can't get much better creds than that. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:38:29 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 From: "Michael Flaherty" <<< Metallica has been arranged for classical players too. >>> And what an arrangement it is! I absolutely LOVE Apocalyptica's "Inquisition Symphony". They are a very talented string quartet and putting heavy metal into a classical format (and pulling it off) was brilliant. Including Faith No More's "From Out of Nowhere" was a nice touch too. Warmly, Cassy NP: Sonya Kitchell - All I Want ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:00:53 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 On Sep 30, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Michael Flaherty wrote: > Victor Johnson wrote: > > >>> However, I don't think Joni belongs > in a league by herself. Jazz musicians have been playing Stevie > Wonder songs for years. The music of the Grateful Dead was recently > arranged in a classical symphonic work. Joni's great but she's not > above all the other songwriters of her generation. > > I doubt that Herbie or Wayne (or Jaco or ... any other jazz > musician I care about) would agree with you. I don't think you speak for all jazz musicians. > I don't know what else to say. I mean, if you really believe the > Grateful Dead wrote as great of songs as Joni, there's not much I > can say (or would want to say) to dissuade you. > > Michael Flaherty Whatever...I don't see any merit in putting Joni up on some pedestal as being "better" than anyone else. I am musician, a songwriter, and a very good one at that. I love the music of Joni Mitchell but I also love a lot of other songwriters including songs that were written by the Grateful Dead, particularly songs by Hunter/Garcia. If you don't appreciate their music or do not have any understanding of them that is your loss. You don't have any basis then to judge whether or not they wrote songs as great as Joni's. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:09:47 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni singing Harry's House on YouTube Monika sent: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG9K6Zoa7FY > Thanks! Very nice way to say good night to Sunday. My dad came over today, and I played and sang HH for him. He liked it. Joni left out the centerpiece part which I did too when I played it for my dad, but I felt strange doing so until I saw this little video. Great to see her play it! Thanks Monika! I learned HH out of the Joni Mitchelll Complete Song Book. Wonder when the corrected edition will be coming out? I really really really really appreciate Joni giving us this book. Thank you Joni! Thanks for so much fun in playing your songs from this book! Big smile! Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:14:23 +0000 From: ajfashion@att.net Subject: RE: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 - -------------- Original message from Bob Muller : -------------- > > league than the other songwriters of her generation, and having > musicians of this caliber take her this seriously is > evidence of that.> > > Very true, and I had the same thought when I went to Wall To Wall Joni in NYC > back in '02. For me, it's Mitchell and Sondheim on top, with no one else coming even close (although I do think Stevie Wonder is a genius; I just don't see his songs as being as varied and lyrically brilliant and experimental as Mitchell's and Sondheim's). When I had the honor of speaking with Cassandra Wilson on the phone a year or so ago, I begged her--probably inappropriately--to do an entire album of Mitchell covers. She did say she loved Mitchell. But OMG there are so many Mitchell songs I'd love to hear Wilson sing. The Sondheim jazz tribute is a really great CD. I now see that the new Hancock will be right up there with it on my frequent playlist. - --Aleda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:30:18 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni on NPR's "All Things Considered" TODAY, 9/28 On Sep 30, 2007, at 11:45 PM, Jim Kauffman wrote: > Lots of tribute albums are done for novelty or commercial reasons. > Frank > Zappa is one exception, Joni is another. > When the finest artists of our time > decide to pay tribute to another musician, that's certainly > validating. When > people like Hancock and Shorter take the compositions of another > musician > and elevate them to their level of the musical stratosphere, that's > something else. These guy KNOW songs by great songwriters, and they've > decided Joni's songs work for them at the same level as the American > Songbook folks--and beyond. The great jazz writers as well. Mingus > knew an > artist when he heard one (and there were plenty of talented people > he didn't > like as composers). You can't get much better creds than that. And jazz guitarist, John Scofield, has played with both Phil Lesh and Bob Weir. Jerry Garcia collaborated with David Grisman, an incredibly talented mandolin player. Both of them sang in a band with Peter Rowan, one of the best bluegrass musicians there is and an amazing songwriter as well. I'm not disputing that its great that Hancock and Shorter took on this project and it is certainly an honor for Joni. But I don't agree that she should be elevated above all other songwriters. By the way, the recording I was speaking of has nothing to do with novelty or commercial aspirations. Composer Lee Johnson, actually composed a symphony, Dead Symphony No. 6 that incorporated several motives from Grateful Dead compositions as well as trying to capture their psychedelic spirit and improvisational nature. Everybody is going to have different opinions who they would consider the greatest songwriter or musician from any era. Victor ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #307 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)