From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #296 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, September 25 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 296 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: VLJC Dinner with who? [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Shine - Best Price - UK ["Joe Jones" ] Re: Shine in Starbucks on Tuesday... [Deb Messling ] clothes [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: VLJC Dinner with who? [Em ] Re: Woodstock vs. Woodstock. vs. Woodstock vs... [Michael Flaherty ] Re: clothes [Michael Paz ] Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... [mia _ ] Re: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... [Jerry Notaro ] Re: The power of Fox News [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Dinner for six - VLJC ["Marion Leffler" ] SV: The power of Fox News ["Marion Leffler" ] pic of joni in article [Kate Johnson ] RE: The power of Fox News ["Richard Flynn" ] Fox News reaction, part 2 [Les Irvin ] Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 [Catherine McKay ] Missing Digests ["Jonathan Lowe" ] Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 [ajfashion@att.net] Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 [Deb Messling ] Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 [Catherine McKay ] "Shine" detail, spoiler alert ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] I GOT MINE [Michael Paz ] Re: "Shine" detail, spoiler alert ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: VLJC, Dinner with who? [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: "Shine" detail, spoiler alert ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: a starbucks shrug [Motitan@aol.com] Re: The power of Fox News ["Mark Scott" ] Re: a starbucks shrug and the promotional items... [Motitan@aol.com] This Place [kenevans@umich.edu] If you want me I'll be in the STARRRRRRbucks! [Patti Parlette ] Re: The power of Fox News [LCStanley7@aol.com] Doctor, My (Joni) Eyes [Patti Parlette ] Jonifest DVD and Joni CD! [MoVFTYite@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:33:06 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: VLJC Dinner with who? Such an interesting mind you have Monika. This has no Joni content because Joni is not someone I would like to have dinner with. I wouldn't even want to know her personally. There are very few people whom I admire that I would like to know. Her talent and her ideas are unsurpassed but, I feel her personality leaves something to be desired. So, who then? You might be an interesting dinner guest, Monika. I'm sure you would keep the conversations going. 1. My mother (which means I could bring her back to life). 2. The Dalai Lama might be a hoot. 3. Brad Pitt for some eye candy. 4. Jamie Oliver could cook. 5. Cate Blanchett might be interesting to chat to. Wow, this is looking quite boring. What does it say about my personality? Mark in beautiful Springtime Sydney just back from the beach. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:38:34 +0100 From: "Joe Jones" Subject: Shine - Best Price - UK Hi, Shine available in the UK at BangCD.com for #6.99 including postage and packing. http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042 np - Sailin' Shoes - Little Feat Cheers - Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:24:00 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Shine in Starbucks on Tuesday... I think it's a national promotion. If they're doing it in my godforsaken town, they're doing it everywhere. When I first went into my local Starbucks and inquired about the new CD, the clerk said, "Toni who?" At 11:07 PM 9/23/2007, you wrote: > Hmm, I wonder which ones are indeed doing this? I'm > navigating the site >right now for information. Sadly I doubt the Starbucks in my city would >have this Shine luncheon - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:51:53 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: clothes I'm wearing a Joni t-shirt... one today and one tomorrow. Today's is black and tomorrow is white for the darkness on the eve of Shine and then tomorrow for Shine (A Kenny shirt). What an awesome thing for another Joni album to be released!!! Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:12:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: VLJC Dinner with who? ok I will play: 1. Fidel Castro (and I bet the food would be good) 2. Dave Carter (did Dave eat?? I'm assuming so) 3. my grandmother who died when I was 10 4. I'm thinking I *would* like to share food and drink and conversation with Joni Mitchell, but only if she were into it 5. Mildred Thompson, painter/sculptor who passed away a few years ago. I was a former student of hers, who fell from grace... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Woodstock vs. Woodstock. vs. Woodstock vs... Bob Muller wrote: >>>Of the four versions she's released, I WAY like the S&L version the best I rarely disagree with Bob on these types of questions, and normally the S+L version of anything is likely to be a favorite, but, as much as I love that version, I have to go with the original on LotC. The first time I heard that stark piano and Joni's voice I was hooked. (I never really liked the CSNY version, so maybe that made me like this version even more.) In fact, it was from there I started listening to Joni more seriosly, albeit ultimately with a preference for post-LotC albums of the 70s. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:48:22 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Woodstock vs. Woodstock. vs. Woodstock vs... I would go with that one as well if not for the yodeling at the end. It has never rested easily on my ear. I am nutty about the keyboards though. Bob NP: Ani, "Don't Be Shy" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:08:10 +0200 From: "Pamela" Subject: shine on bangcd Hi to all of you! I pre-ordered my copy of Shine on the site bangcd...when I can have it finally in my hands?! Does anyone know? I've just seen the video on youtube...I think that I will love that woman more and more forever.... :) Lots of love Pamela ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:50:25 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: clothes I have my TTT T-shirt on today. I am also stopping by a couple of Starbucks to see if they put out copies this afternoon to get ready for tomorrow. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 24, 2007, at 6:51 AM, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: I'm wearing a Joni t-shirt... one today and one tomorrow. Today's is black and tomorrow is white for the darkness on the eve of Shine and then tomorrow for Shine (A Kenny shirt). What an awesome thing for another Joni album to be released!!! Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:33:56 -0500 From: mia _ Subject: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... ... is the headline of a Fox News article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297798,00.html (Or, maybe someone beat me to the punch as I am on digest.) This line cracked me up: "Mitchell, the original singer-songwriter, presents herself in stark contrast to the dodo-brained warblers of this generation." Tee, hee! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:42:39 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... Joni headlining Fox News? Now THAT'S a publicists dream. Jerry > ... is the headline of a Fox News article: > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297798,00.html > > (Or, maybe someone beat me to the punch as I am on digest.) > > This line cracked me up: > > "Mitchell, the original singer-songwriter, presents herself in stark contrast > to the dodo-brained warblers of this generation." > > Tee, hee! > > Mia > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:49:00 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... No, your submittal of that headline was the first, Mia - I saw it this AM and it was like "Whoa!" Truth be told, she lets ALL churches have it..."Shine on ALL the churches, they all love less & less..." And as David Sapp so astutely pointed out, the anti-religion angle is a major theme of the album. And how can any church that has to take out "Abuse Insurance" on its priests defend itself? I hope in my lifetime that churches are properly taxed for the businesses they are. Bob NP: Elton John, "Funeral For A Friend" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:59:40 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni in FOXNews today September 24, 2007 It's coming on Christmas, Joniamigos! Now we're getting back the best baby That we ever had! Tripping over little Christmas presents all over the place, here's another one that just came tumbling out of a closet: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297798,00.html "Shes back, and not a moment too soon." The gift goes on! Singing songs of joy and peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Its our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:16:08 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church... I hope in my lifetime that churches are properly > taxed for the businesses they are. Amen, Brother. Think how many children could have health care with THAT money. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:22:15 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Edith & the King Pin and Tina Turner Bob, thanks for the great 7 minute you-tube interview of Shine!!! Found this too.........Tina singing Edith and the Kingpin (nice & jazzy) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaRx52OD8IY Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:13:05 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Last Shine lyric of the day, and quote "When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always." - -Mahatma Gandhi (a good quote for us all to remember and one that could apply with the theme of Shine indirectly....) "And everyone's a victim! Nobody's hands are clean. There's so very little left of wild Eden Earth So near the jaws of our machines. We live in these electric scabs. These lesions once were lakes. No one knows how to shoulder the blame Or learn from past mistakes... So who will come to save the day?" - -JONI! - -Monika ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:18:31 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: The power of Fox News Messages to the website this morning after the Fox News story ran: (http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1690) - -------- SHAME ON YOU for defaming my universal Church and attacking my faith based on ignorant assumptions and hearsay. If you knew anything about the actual, beautfiul, loving presence of Christ (who founded the Church 2000 years ago) PURE LOVE - in the eaucharist, in our lives when we welcome Him, you would realize that the horrible actions of less than 1% of the entire priesthood in the whole world who took it upon themselves to go against everything the Catholic Church stands for and do bad things, not only does not represent the Church but actually represents the complete opposite of what it stands for. You prove yourself a simpleton and, ironically, absolutely ANTI- Love, despite your claims. Again, SHAME on you. - -------- According to a column I have recently read, lyrics in "Shine" take a stand against the Catholic Church. I believe you have a right to say virtually anything you want in your songs, but I am curious about your motives. Are you really concerned with less love and mass destruction in some God's name? Or are you only concerned with attracting attention to gain publicity? If you are truly concerned with the former, then why take the safe approach attacking only the Catholic Church and not include any other religion? Is it because you know that this will only give you added publicity since ultimately it is relatively "safe" to attack the Catholic Church? Why not attack Islam? Is it because they are much more of a vocal and possibly dangerous minority and you are afraid for your safety? Afraid that they will protest more and you will get true negative publicity. I think if you are really concerned with hypocrisy and/or violence in religion, you will come out as strong against Islam as you have with the Catholic Church. If not, the world will know that you are more interested in taking the safe road to increased album sales. Hopefully, you will prove this skeptic wrong and show that you not a coward. I would appreciate a response to my comments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:26:13 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The power of Fox News Wow, that's awesome - that's the kind of publicity you can't buy. Now I guess communities will have Joni Mitchell CD/album burnings and such (and then go back out in a year and replace them all). Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Shiver Me Timbers" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:30:05 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Dinner for six - VLJC Hi, my five dream guests (not together, though) 1. My father who died when I was six. There is so much I would like to ask him. 2. Janis Joplin - no special reason, I just think it could be fun. 3. Karl Marx. There is so much I would like to ask him. 4. Hermann Hesse who was my favourite writer when most of life still lay ahead of me. Nostalgia. 5. Christina, queen of Sweden in the 17th century. She appears to have been a very complicated and interesting woman. Marion ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:32:49 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: The power of Fox News Funny how some of these responses assume that attacking the Catholic church will sell more cds. If they are so sure of their case, why not assume she will sell less? Marion (http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1690) - -------- SHAME ON YOU for defaming my universal Church and attacking my faith based on ignorant assumptions and hearsay. If you knew anything about the actual, beautfiul, loving presence of Christ (who founded the Church 2000 years ago) PURE LOVE - in the eaucharist, in our lives when we welcome Him, you would realize that the horrible actions of less than 1% of the entire priesthood in the whole world who took it upon themselves to go against everything the Catholic Church stands for and do bad things, not only does not represent the Church but actually represents the complete opposite of what it stands for. You prove yourself a simpleton and, ironically, absolutely ANTI- Love, despite your claims. Again, SHAME on you. - -------- According to a column I have recently read, lyrics in "Shine" take a stand against the Catholic Church. I believe you have a right to say virtually anything you want in your songs, but I am curious about your motives. Are you really concerned with less love and mass destruction in some God's name? Or are you only concerned with attracting attention to gain publicity? If you are truly concerned with the former, then why take the safe approach attacking only the Catholic Church and not include any other religion? Is it because you know that this will only give you added publicity since ultimately it is relatively "safe" to attack the Catholic Church? Why not attack Islam? Is it because they are much more of a vocal and possibly dangerous minority and you are afraid for your safety? Afraid that they will protest more and you will get true negative publicity. I think if you are really concerned with hypocrisy and/or violence in religion, you will come out as strong against Islam as you have with the Catholic Church. If not, the world will know that you are more interested in taking the safe road to increased album sales. Hopefully, you will prove this skeptic wrong and show that you not a coward. I would appreciate a response to my comments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:08:20 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: pic of joni in article see http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html? id=2185559a-4c87-4eda-9bb4-b7639e7862e1 - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:51:49 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: The power of Fox News And "Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church" is among the top e-mailed stories on Fux News though not quite as popular as Man Accused of Ripping Head Off Live Duck in Hotel Lobby http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297763,00.html - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les Irvin Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 12:19 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: The power of Fox News Messages to the website this morning after the Fox News story ran: (http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1690) - -------- SHAME ON YOU for defaming my universal Church and attacking my faith based on ignorant assumptions and hearsay. If you knew anything about the actual, beautfiul, loving presence of Christ (who founded the Church 2000 years ago) PURE LOVE - in the eaucharist, in our lives when we welcome Him, you would realize that the horrible actions of less than 1% of the entire priesthood in the whole world who took it upon themselves to go against everything the Catholic Church stands for and do bad things, not only does not represent the Church but actually represents the complete opposite of what it stands for. You prove yourself a simpleton and, ironically, absolutely ANTI- Love, despite your claims. Again, SHAME on you. - -------- According to a column I have recently read, lyrics in "Shine" take a stand against the Catholic Church. I believe you have a right to say virtually anything you want in your songs, but I am curious about your motives. Are you really concerned with less love and mass destruction in some God's name? Or are you only concerned with attracting attention to gain publicity? If you are truly concerned with the former, then why take the safe approach attacking only the Catholic Church and not include any other religion? Is it because you know that this will only give you added publicity since ultimately it is relatively "safe" to attack the Catholic Church? Why not attack Islam? Is it because they are much more of a vocal and possibly dangerous minority and you are afraid for your safety? Afraid that they will protest more and you will get true negative publicity. I think if you are really concerned with hypocrisy and/or violence in religion, you will come out as strong against Islam as you have with the Catholic Church. If not, the world will know that you are more interested in taking the safe road to increased album sales. Hopefully, you will prove this skeptic wrong and show that you not a coward. I would appreciate a response to my comments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:59:13 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Fox News reaction, part 2 More reaction coming across the website from the Fox News story. Interesting to note that it's a generally favorable review, not really living up to the (purposefully?) inflammatory title "Joni Mitchell Attacks Catholic Church" (http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1690). Could it be that these people are not actually reading the piece?. Naww... Les - ---- Who do you think you are attacking the Catholic church? Get a life and pray for forgiveness. - ---- Dear Joni Mitchell, My father was a US Marine, a Catholic and a very warm and decent human being. He saved many people who now have a chance at a free life, but it humbled him at how bravely they would fight, without training and will useless weapons, those who would take their freedom and their families lives. He told us that he was particularly proud to defend the right of free speech for people like you - who sit in a safe place and complain about how everybody else is wrong and only you have the insight on Truth. May God Bless your foolhardy soul and may you find some peace some day. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:32:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 - --- Les Irvin wrote: > More reaction coming across the website from the Fox > News story. > Interesting to note that it's a generally favorable > review, not really > living up to the (purposefully?) inflammatory title > "Joni Mitchell Attacks > Catholic Church" > (http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1690). > > > Could it be that these people are not actually > reading the piece?. Naww... > Les > > Could it also be that none of them have actually READ THE FREAKIN' LYRICS to her song? Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:39:41 +0200 From: "Jonathan Lowe" Subject: Missing Digests Like Jim, I also missed digests 372 and 375. Jonathan [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:08:16 +0000 From: ajfashion@att.net Subject: Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 - -------------- Original message from Catherine McKay : > --- Les Irvin wrote: > > > More reaction coming across the website from the Fox > > News story. > > Interesting to note that it's a generally favorable > > review, not really > > living up to the (purposefully?) inflammatory title > > "Joni Mitchell Attacks > > Catholic Church" > > (http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1690). > > > > > > Could it be that these people are not actually > > reading the piece?. Naww... > > Les > > Could it also be that none of them have actually READ > THE FREAKIN' LYRICS to her song? Someone at Fox News can read? News to me. - --Aleda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:55:33 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 If I were the author of the review, I'd be mighty pissed. I'm sure he was not responsible for the headline, and he obviously respects Joni and likes the album. What worries me is that this stupid Fox story might color all the press coverage of the album. We all know about the herd mentality of the media. At 03:59 PM 9/24/2007, you wrote: >Interesting to note that it's a generally favorable review, not really >living up to the (purposefully?) inflammatory title "Joni Mitchell Attacks >Catholic Church" (http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1690). > >Could it be that these people are not actually reading the piece?. Naww... >Les - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fox News reaction, part 2 - --- ajfashion@att.net wrote {about Fox's article quoted at jonimitchell.com): > > > "Joni Mitchell Attacks > > > Catholic Church" > > > > (http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1690). > > > > > > > > > Could it be that these people are not actually > > > reading the piece?. Naww... > > > Les > > > > > Could it also be that none of them have actually > READ > > THE FREAKIN' LYRICS to her song? > > Someone at Fox News can read? News to me. > > --Aleda > I can see how much everyone loves Fox (heh-heh.) The article itself was actually quite positive and, I thought, rather balanced. I think it's usually the editor, not the writer, that chooses the headline, and s/he chose one that was bound to grab some attention - as indeed it did. If it's true there's no such thing as bad publicity, then this headline could be picked up elsewhere and generate lots of heat for Joni, and maybe some sales, or as someone (Muller?) suggested, a good-old fashioned record burning! There are some Catholics who view anything that questions the Catholic church as a personal attack. I suppose you could say the same about any religious group as well. I remember these people (shudder) from my Catholic schooldays. Fortunately they are in a minority, but they are a very vocal minority - the type that want to bring back the Latin Mass and the Spanish Inquisition. - - I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition! - - NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Bring out the comfy chair! - - The comfy chair?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:55:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Shine" detail, spoiler alert * Our local npr affiliate has been playing something from "Shine" every weekday for a week. * "Shine" is playing in the living room now. (1) * Grandma Joni dedicated this one to Marlon and Daisy. * It's easier to follow her piano through "One Week Last Summer" on the big stereo than on the computer speakers. I love the oboe counterpoint; knowing that she played it on a synth doesn't detract at all. Although I like DED now, I'll "take" these layers over the ones on DED, big time. * The night I met my second girfriend she was playing piano in a Christmas service. Maybe I was hard-wired for chicks who play music. (Or is Joni an archetype who represents Susan?) Anyway, it's just great to hear Joni playing piano again. I mean, it's really great. This is like the best drink of water after the longest drought (2). (Joni, I've I've never met you, but I'm very proud of you. Congratulations and thanks!) The gift goes on, eh? Back to the living room, Jim L'Hommedieu (1) The independent "record store" in town had it on display today. As the clerk rang it up (along with the new Rascal Flatts, to be released tomorrow too), he said, "We're not supposed to sell this today. So don't tell anyone where you bought it." heh heh It was almost like buying an ounce, all those years ago. (2) Steven Speilberg when he finally won an Oscar for directing "Shindler's List". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:08:23 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: I GOT MINE YIPPIE! Even though I have an advance copy I still had to have the real thing purchased from a store and I talked some cute little thing at Starbucks into selling me on the day before she was suppose to. She said, "I guess I can just say oops I didn't know!" God Bless her. It sounded so good riding home in the rain listening to new Joni. I sincerely hope she does well with this one and it leads to a tour and I hope she falls in love again so we can get some new material that is not quite as ominous. She is right on target and when she got to the line about "them crazy crows always making a commotion" in the song "This Place", I thought to myself, YES SHE IS!!! The craziest crow of all! Love ya Joni. Best Paz P.S> Geaux Saints! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:06:43 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: "Shine" detail, spoiler alert * On page 4, the blue disc is definately Africa and the Sinai Peninsula, not a blue moon. It's the marbled bowling ball. Score one for the "words people". Who called that first, Monika, AJ? * North America gets the image of Europe at night too. back to the living room, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:22:27 +0000 From: "Owen Duff" Subject: Shine at Number 7 on Amazon UK Um, just what the subject line says really! It was at number 6 yesterday... Lycos email has 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:31:45 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: VLJC, Dinner with who? Monika asked: > If you could have dinner with 5 people, living or dead, who would they be > and why? > Deceased: 1. My mother (I miss her) 2. My cousin Ricky who died when I was 13 (I miss him) 3. My brother Timmy who died before I was born (I never had the chance to get to know him) 4. Laura Nyro (dinner and a movie with her because...) 5. Joni's mother (I know I'd like her, and I'm a good listener) Living: 1. Marianne and Bree (they are a package deal; I miss them) 2. Joni (to be her friend) 3. Any lister (we'd always have something to talk about) 4. My high school English teacher (she always got me thinking) 5. Judy Collins (forget dinner... I'd want one of her singing lessons and to go to an AA meeting with her) Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:03:21 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: "Shine" detail, spoiler alert Kenneth Gamble, Leon Huff, and Anthony Jackson said, (through The O'Jays): > Money money money money, MONEY... > People will steal from their moth'a.. > People will rob their own broth'a. > People can't even walk the streets, > because they'll never know who in the world they're gonna meet (1) James Taylor: > Well, you can mea-sha your manhood by it > You can > Git yo' chil-dren to try it > You can > Bring your en-emies > to their knees > with the possible exception > of the North Vietnam-ese (2) Neil Peart in Rush: > Big money goes around the world > Big money underground > Big money got a mighty voice > Big money make no sound (3) Bob Dylan: > Money doesn't talk > It swears. (4) Roger Waters in Pink Floyd: > Don't give me that do-goody, goody > bu-1-1-sh!t (5) Joni, > Money, money, money... > Money makes the trees come down. > It makes mountains into molehills > Big Money kicks the wide, wide world around.(6) Jim L'Hommedieu (1) "For The Love Of Money", 99 cents on iTunes! Great single and not overplayed. (2) "Money Machine", you can almost hear him trying to be an honorary O'Jay (3) "The Big Money" (4) ? (5) "Money" (6) "This Place" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:20:12 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: We all "Shine" on... I noticed Shine is at #12 on Amazon (US). Good news indeed. Now is anyone going to the Shine listening at Starbucks tomorrow? After getting my Neil Young tickets at the presale tomorrow morning, I'm off to purchase the album and then off to Starbucks to listen to Shine for the first time with a book in my hands (and I'll try their iced tea that I hear is magical). I wonder if anyone else at the store will be there particularly for the Shine listening. I guess we'll see! What a day we've got coming! Who would have thought we'd have a new Joni album? Anything is possible folks! - -Monika ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: a starbucks shrug I walked into Starbucks in a popular, swingin' part of the city called The Village here in the Peg, and the person behind the counter shrugged, and said she didn't know "much at all" about the new Joni CD Shine. She said they didn't even have it in yet. Hmm. No posters, no promotional stuff at all. Interesting, eh? Mags - --------------------------------- Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:32:03 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: a starbucks shrug In a message dated 9/24/2007 9:28:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca writes: person behind the counter shrugged, and said she didn't know "much at all" about the new Joni CD Shine. She said they didn't even have it in yet. Hmm. No posters, no promotional stuff at all. Interesting, eh? Mags - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------------------- Hmm. I'd call them and hope to get someone more knowledgable. - -M ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:32:46 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The power of Fox News - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Irvin" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:18 AM Subject: The power of Fox News > SHAME ON YOU for defaming my universal Church and attacking my faith > based > on ignorant assumptions and hearsay. Well *I* certainly would *never* attack any faith that is based on ignorant assumptions and hearsay! ;-) > If you are truly concerned with the former, then why take the safe > approach > attacking only the Catholic Church and not include any other > religion? I guess this person either didn't bother to read the next line of the lyric as printed in the very next line of the article. Or maybe all they read was the headline. Sigh. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:47:20 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: a starbucks shrug and the promotional items... In a message dated 9/24/2007 9:35:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Motitan@aol.com writes: No posters, no promotional stuff at all. Interesting, eh? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----------------------------------- I wonder when I go to Starbucks if they'll have any little "Shine" posters up or a little sign in addition to anything else they may have? I wonder if they do have any little "Shine" promotional items up, if I ask to have one, would they let me? What's the worst that can happen? A cashier looks at me like I'm crazy and says no. The world keeps on turning. I think I'll ask if I can. When I interned in promotions with a radio station people would ask at events for some of the radio station banners we had. Most of the time we said sure and the times we didn't were only because the person asked for one of the huge banners....... - -Monika ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:56:41 -0400 From: kenevans@umich.edu Subject: This Place Sparkle on the ocean, eagle at the top of tree..... Sprit on the water, darkness on the face of the deep.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:59:05 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: If you want me I'll be in the STARRRRRRbucks! Bon soir! So does everyone have their day tomorrow all mapped out? I drew a map of Starbucks, with Joni's face sketched on it twice. Yep. I called Starbucks of Mansfield today to make sure they have the CD (yes, but it won't be released until tomorrow) and that they will be doing the 3 hour thing, and the young man said yes. Yes! I told a bunch of friends and co-workers that if they want me I'll be in the Starrrrrrrbucks from 11 a.m. and until 2 p.m. I mean, how can a Joni person actually *work* when only a mile away they'll be playing three hours of solid Joni? I'll bring some work but probably won't work. I told people that I will be holding court and spark there and that if they want to stop by in between classes I will buy them a drink. Our secretary Mary, who is usually so patient w/ my JMOCD but has seen it building up for weeks said: "I'm not going any where NEAR that place. Are you kidding?" When I told my son Chris (the great Joni-teaser) that Starbucks is playing 3 hours of Joni he shot back: "They don't want any business for three hours? What, are they going to wash the floor for three hours?" (Bratty kid. I said: "Get down off of there!") When I went out to the quick lunch stand today I finally *came out* to the owner, Lizzie of Lizzie's Curbside Cuisine. I asked her if she liked Joni Mitchell, and she said "Oh, yeah. I remember her!" So I told her how she is coming out of retirement with a new CD and Lizzie said: "I'd go see her!" and I said: "Oh, no. We don't know anything about a tour yet!" and then went on to tell her about this list and about "the quick lunch stand" and "Proud headed Queen Lizzie" lyrics and how I've written to the list about her quick lunch stand and she was touched by that. She said: "Wow, it's so nice to see someone so passionate about something! Have fun tomorrow!" (She probably shook her head after I left and joked with customers who were behind me in line, but I don't care.) I hope some of our grad students stop by so I can share the joy. If not, maybe I will find someone else to spark with. Or just sit in dark cafe. N'importe quoi. I really wanted to write a new "Night Before Christmas" today, but time and good fortune would not allow. Very busy at work, plus I have 3 dear friends in the hospital (one getting a triple-bypass, another with breast cancer surgery, and another getting a diagnosis) and a 24 year-old kid in town (a former baseball teammate of my younger son) committed suicide. I've been doing a lot of laughing and crying today. Very both sides now, so please forgive me if I am more ooby shooby than usual. Enjoy tomorrow and the second coming of SIQUOMB, Joniamigos. Thank you for taking me as I am. Thank you for your presence and for being here and everything. Thank you very much! Carpe CDiem! Love, Patti P., going off to hang my long-silk stockings by the chimney, with care NPIMH: O holy night! The stars are brightly SHINEing, It is the night of our dear Joni's re-birth. Long lay the world in sin and error pining. Till She appeared and the Spirit felt its worth. A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices, For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn. Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices! O night divine, the night when Joni was re-born; O night, O holy night, O night divine! O night, O holy night, O night divine! (down on your knees, Marianne and Bree!) _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Its our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:02:01 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Washington Post on "Shine" This ain't what I'd call a terrific review. For example, " Constructed around pianos and synthesizers, with minimal percussion and languid arrangements, "Shine" is heavy-handed and medicinal." Ah, well. A Stick From the Tree Museum By Allison Stewart Special to The Washington Post Tuesday, September 25, 2007; Page C05 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/24/AR2007092401592.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:17:15 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: The power of Fox News Les posted: > Messages to the website this morning after the Fox News story ran: > > (http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1690) > > > > - -------- > > > > SHAME ON YOU for defaming my universal Church and attacking my faith based > on ignorant assumptions and hearsay. If you knew anything about the actual, > beautfiul, loving presence of Christ (who founded the Church 2000 years ago) > PURE LOVE - in the eaucharist, in our lives when we welcome Him, you would > realize that the horrible actions of less than 1% of the entire priesthood > in the whole world who took it upon themselves to go against everything the > Catholic Church stands for and do bad things, not only does not represent > the Church but actually represents the complete opposite of what it stands > for. You prove yourself a simpleton and, ironically, absolutely ANTI- Love, > despite your claims. Again, SHAME on you. > > > > - -------- > > > > According to a column I have recently read, lyrics in "Shine" take a stand > against the Catholic Church. I believe you have a right to say virtually > anything you want in your songs, but I am curious about your motives. > > > > Are you really concerned with less love and mass destruction in some God's > name? Or are you only concerned with attracting attention to gain > publicity? > > > > If you are truly concerned with the former, then why take the safe approach > attacking only the Catholic Church and not include any other religion? Is > it because you know that this will only give you added publicity since > ultimately it is relatively "safe" to attack the Catholic Church? > > > > Why not attack Islam? Is it because they are much more of a vocal and > possibly dangerous minority and you are afraid for your safety? Afraid that > they will protest more and you will get true negative publicity. > > > > I think if you are really concerned with hypocrisy and/or violence in > religion, you will come out as strong against Islam as you have with the > Catholic Church. If not, the world will know that you are more interested > in taking the safe road to increased album sales. Hopefully, you will prove > this skeptic wrong and show that you not a coward. > > > > I would appreciate a response to my comments. > > Hi Les. Please forward this to the: Dear Catholics who listen to Fox News, Interesting stretch to interpret Joni's prayer, "Shine on the Catholic Church/And the prisons that it owns" as her 'coming out against' or 'attacking' the Catholic Church. "Shine" strikes me as an adult verson of the children's song, "This Little Light of Mine," a prayer for light to dispell darkness, a very Catholic prayer. Joni's prayer for the Catholic Church in "Shine" reminds me of the powerful Easter Vigil prayer we pray when the Church is in total darkness until the Easter candle is brought in by the priest: "Accept this Easter candle, a flame divided but undimmed, a pillar of fire that glows to the honor of God. Let it mingle with the lights of heaven and continue bravely burning to dispel the darkness of this night." Joni's prayer also reminds me of St. John of the Cross' lyric poem, "The Living Flame of Love" that flowed out of his experiencing life in one of the Catholic Church's dark prisons located in a Carmelite monastery. Embracing dark realities in the Church and praying for them to be shined upon is not against the Catholic Church but right in step with Her tradition in my experience as a Catholic. I join with Joni in praying for the Catholic Church. Love, Laura (Mary Athanasius, bscd) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:36:44 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Doctor, My (Joni) Eyes Oh, geeze Cherokee Louise! I just checked my calendar for tomorrow. September 25th. In big big letters it says: JONI! SHINE! and then in tiny little letters it says: "Dr. Reardon. 4 p.m." Merde! That's the eye doctor. I meant to cancel the appointment but, in all the excitement, forgot. And now I'm remembering that the last time I went. I was waiting in the check-out line, bored, and casually opened my file, thinking I would not understand a word, and saw, in Dr. Reardon's finest hand, on the top left corner of the manila file folder: "Joni Mitchell Fan!!" I kid you not. I was startled, wondering how that got in there. Huh??? Then I remembered talking w/ Dr. Reardon about Joni a while back. I don't know if I was wearing my Cassy-made "JMDL Carnegie Hall" pin and that sparked the conversation, or if I just started spouting off. (That happens.) But now I remember the conversation a little. Dr. Reardon told me she loved Joni back in the 70s. She drifted off to the memory, of the way she looked in medical school, hearing Joni at a rest-stop in her orange VW bug, w/ some kind of special reverb speakers or something. Oh, man. I don't want to get my eyes dilated after such a Joni day. Don't they say that the eyes are the window to the soul? She's going to shine that bright light into my eyes and be shocked. She'll hand me a mirror and say: "Patti! You laugh, she'll say, you think you're immune Go look at your eyes they're full of moon You like roses and kisses and pretty men to tell you All those pretty lies pretty lies When you gonna realise they're only pretty lies Only pretty lies just pretty lies..." And there I will be, clutching SHINE in my grateful hands, asking her if she's heard it yet. "PSYCH! STAT! Off to a sterilized room. Pre-existing JMOCDed condition." I'm doomed! Let your little lights shine. Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever  Get MORE with Windows Live Hotmail.. NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:28:17 EDT From: MoVFTYite@aol.com Subject: Jonifest DVD and Joni CD! Wow - it's a Joni week for sure! I just want to stand up and applaud Adriano -- he worked so hard on videotaping, archiving, organizing, editing, splicing, and creating a marvelous set of DVDs from this year's Jonifest!!!!! Fantastic! I just watched the first of the 3 discs and it brought me right back to that wonderful gathering we had. Now I need some hugs and some people around here to sing with -- I miss you all! Looking forward to making a stop at a Starbucks for the Shine CD -- I'm excited because I finally have purpose for the couple of Starbucks cards I've gotten as gifts over the last couple years (I don't drink coffee and even if I did, it would be at some local mom and pop coffee shop - gotta support small businesses!) Now I feel like playing some guitar... yes, it's 12:23 a.m. Perfect, at the 'fest we'd be having a song circle right now. I got a new guitar 3 weeks ago and I'm proud to say that it is very happy in alternate tunings. Also, I finally got an acoustic amp, so lately I've had fun playing some of the songs from STAS, with the amp set to a bit of a hall/echo/chorus sound just for that STAS effect... fun stuff!! Hoping to attend 'fest in '08, and I'll think about Eurofest. Sure would love to do that as well! Happy Shine day, everyone! Angela "Apod" Gold Denver, CO. NP(from Adriano's DVD): "Night Ride Home" ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #296 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)