From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #235 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, August 4 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 235 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- La Bocca della Verita bites back [Gordon Mackie ] She had a mouth like yours ["Michel BYRNE" ] Here's something that everyone can laugh at ["Patti Parlette" ] Parlette's Syndrome is Everywhere on this Marbled Bowling Ball! [Smurf ] Re: SONG FOR JONI [Motitan@aol.com] Re: joni & cohen [JoniPD ] RE: Stalking Starbucks ["Sherelle Smith" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 10:03:12 +0100 From: Gordon Mackie Subject: La Bocca della Verita bites back Hi all I'm always running behind the time on this list - a direct result of skimming, so please forgive if I later state what is to some, old ground. Thanks to Donald the Bruce for his kind and eloquent reply to my nit picking. Now that is what I like about this list - a community that debates but does not take personally .....though sometimes...lol. Anyway, the line 'I met a woman, she had a mouth like yours' does not make me think of a literal 'mouth'. I always thought it was a poetic use of language meaning she 'spoke' like you, had a similar accent or phrased sentences the same way. And whilst I'm on a roll, I suppose having a physical mouth like someone could be purely co-incidental and not necessarily implying of a relative at all. I agree though with (Mc) Bruce that Joni does use a fair bit of catholic imagery here (or maybe, in dour Scotland it's more accurate to state non-reformation Christian imagery). Have as peaceful a weekend as is possible everyone Gordon (in dull, dour Glasgow) Bah humbug! (whatever that literally means) A Mouth Like Yours (Hardcover) by Daniel Duane "I really do think I'm better off, both for having lost Joani Artois and for having loved her in the first place..." Key Phrases: New York, San Francisco, Joan Artois This took the thunder off my face ! See more on Amazon....does this count as a Joni in literature reference?? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:03:12 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Shine sampler Hi Mark, I'm taking a long time to respond to digests at the moment - I wanted to say thanks for the sampler a long time ago! These songs sound good to me - I like the lively version of BYT. From the Ghost interviews I didn't really get any impression of the new music. I'm opmitmistic now! But I have to say that I don't hear that her voice has recovered to its previous strength. I love her mature voice, so I don't consider it a loss. I just wonder why they are saying that she has recovered... Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:46:15 +0000 From: "Michel BYRNE" Subject: Number One Great new video recently posted on Youtube - Joni at an Amnesty International benefit singing Number One (from Chalkmark). A great slinky sly rhythm to it, but marred by poor sound balance - the backing singer who's meant to underpin the whole song (can't remember who she was) is almost inaudible. Enjoy! _________________________________________________________________ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:52:58 +0000 From: "Michel BYRNE" Subject: She had a mouth like yours I've always instinctively understood that line as meaning the woman was as garrulous or as prone to swearing as the singer's lover, in the sense of a woman who would be/may well have have been a match for the man, as a former or potential lover. It only occurred to me later that the line might refer to a relative of the man's, or simply someone who's face reminded the singer of her ex. A passing observation... _________________________________________________________________ Get Pimped! FREE emoticon packs from Windows Live - http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:01:47 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Here's something that everyone can laugh at Danke schon, darlings, danke schon. Bei mir bist Du schon! (I know, Liebchens Moni und Marion, that it should be "sind Sie" but then nobody would get the Andrews Sisters reference.) Laughter is good for the soul and now mine is refreshed. Ahhhhhhh.....deep cleansing breath. The "This Flight Tonight" one especially made me bust up laughing. Sometimes -- not too often -- I get this crazy uncontrollable laugh that comes from my very soul that makes my best friend say: "STOP IT! You're SCARING ME!" (But it's a good thing, really. Laughing and crying, you know....) Speaking of Stevie and Joni, does Stevie have the reputation for being a good dresser, elegant or something? Some kind of babe? I'm no fashionista so what do I know. I only ask because my wonderful friend Mary (some of you met her at the Tribute at Carnegie Hall or in the French Barangrill) called to wish me a good time at my son's wedding. She had helped me pick out the thirtys evening gown, and went shopping one day for jewwwwels, and she said: "You are going to look just like Stevie!" I immediately joked/whined back: "But I don't *want* to look like Stevie. I want to look like JONI!" Mary sighed (probably rolled her eyes) and smiled though the phone lines and said: "Okay, okay! You can look like Joni!" (I wish.) Happy Friday! Oh, wait. Attendez un instant. What are we supposed to do today? "If overseas, phone a friend nearest a Starbucks." Phew. Most of us get a day off today. Maybe not Paz, though, and anyone else who is traveling, traveling, traveling. And I'm kinda looking forward to the decadent cheetos day. Seems like many dim years ago since I've seen cheetos dust on my face, and then picked up the scent on my fingers all the live-long day. What aisle of the health food store are they in? Love, Patti P. **** LOL Bob!! I like this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgEdqlfPZg0 It isn't Joni but a Stevie Nicks parody. I heard this (or something extremely similar to it) on the radio years ago, and have been looking for it for awhile now. There it was above your link. I like Stevie....but this one always made me laugh. Best regards, Gary Bob Muller wrote: >Don't worry, this will never make a Covers Volume. Several LOL moments on >this one: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo4ADHjSb3I > _________________________________________________________________ Tease your brain--play Clink! Win cool prizes! http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 12:24:21 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Here's something that everyone can laugh at On Aug 3, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > > Happy Friday! Oh, wait. Attendez un instant. What are we > supposed to do today? "If overseas, phone a friend nearest a > Starbucks." They're building one two blocks from my apartment, even though there's already one two blocks away in the other direction. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:13:11 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: joni & cohen Joni ; Rainy night house : So you packed your tent and you went to live out in the Arizona sand You are a refugee From a wealthy family You gave up all the golden factories To see who in the world you might be Cohen: Famous blue raincoat : I hear your building your house deep in the desert Your living for nothing now I hope you4re keeping some kind of record.... These two text appeared in a short while through the great shuffle ipod I acchieved due to Bob4s kindness (+you know he lit a candle for my loveluck and hey, 18 $ went up in smoke...and then we have the shipping costs for donating money to jm.com, that still appears a little strange, Les) Anyways, achieving this precious gift from Mr.Muller has opened a new world for me. Suddenly I can carry all this great music in my pocket, and it weighs nothing. Well, enough about that. Listening to the ipod I suddenly traced a recembllence with these two texts. Both Joni and Cohen sings about some person who has retreated to his/her secret place- - - I started wondering if this could be the same person. Most likey not, since I believe Coehn sings about a woman and Joni ablut a man, those artist are JUST SOOO STRAIGHT! Oh MY GOD! Well I believe I4ve heard that Joni and Cohen had some sort of relationship in the sixties, and I4ve also heard from great my Joni scholar and friend Karen Marie, that Cohen4s Rainy night house might have a connection with Joni. So who in the world might help me with this one, if any? Jonilove from Oddmund --- who is happy to pay only 10$ for Turbulent IOndigo the other day, so finally I own a copy of this precious album ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Parlette's Syndrome is Everywhere on this Marbled Bowling Ball! I am addicted to Gawker.com, which has some of the funniest writing on the Internet -- even if they're often very unkind. Anyway, here's what they have posted there now (their second Joni reference this week!): << This was such a magical week for comments, you guys. Seriously! (A circle jerk of hilarity amid the vituperation!) We sometimes found ourselves laughing so hard we cried. Laughing and crying, you know, it's the same release.>> Have a great weekend, tout le monde! --SoB . - --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:04:29 -0400 From: Vacheresse Joseph Subject: SONG FOR JONI I WROTE A SONG FOR JONI --- IS ANYONE INTERESTED ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:19:56 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: SONG FOR JONI Sure I'd like to read the lyrics or hear it (if you provide a link)! - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 01:12:00 +0200 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: joni & cohen Hi, Oddmund! Oh well, that's a tempting subject! I think I can shed a little light (or maybe more darkness, you know...) about this matter. First, I think you've got it a little wrong: Famous Blue Raincoat is, obviously, about a man "And what can I tell you my brother, my killer What can I possibly say? " It's a song "in second person"; ie: a letter written to someone (just like Rainy Night House!), but... who's that "You"? Well, believe it or not, some Leonard Cohen fans think it's about Leo Cohen himself; that it's a kind of "open letter" to him, a kind of "speaking to oneself in the mirror" therapy after he broke his marriage. There's something he tells in a BBC interview back in 1994: "The problem with that song is that I've forgotten the actual triangle. Whether it was my own - of course, I always felt that there was an invisible male seducing the woman I was with, now whether this one was incarnate or merely imaginary I don't remember, I've always had the sense that either I've been that figure in relation to another couple or there'd been a figure like that in relation to my marriage. I don't quite remember but I did have this feeling that there was always a third party, sometimes me, sometimes another man, sometimes another woman. It was a song I've never been satisfied with. It's not that I've resisted an impressionistic approach to songwriting, but I've never felt that this one, that I really nailed the lyric. I'm ready to concede something to the mystery, but secretly I've always felt that there was something about the song that was unclear. So I've been very happy with some of the imagery, but a lot of the imagery... The tune I think is good, I remember my mother approving of it, I remember playing the tune for her, in her kitchen, and her perking up her ears while she was doing something else and saying "that's a nice tune". Of course, that's very obscure! Could it be our Joni that "another woman"??? Did Leo played that tune in some Florida kitchen? I too have read in the JMDL that Rainy Night House might have a connection with Cohen, isn't it? Anyway, that's my two cents on it. I'm sorry I didn't help much... and grateful to you for marking that resemblance in two of my favourite songs ever. Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Al Gromer Khan & Amelia Cuni: Monsoon Point Oddmund Kaarevik escribis: > Joni ; Rainy night house : > So you packed your tent and you went > to live out in the Arizona sand > You are a refugee > >From a wealthy family > You gave up all the golden factories > To see who in the world you might be > > Cohen: Famous blue raincoat : > I hear your building your house deep in the desert > Your living for nothing now > I hope you4re keeping some kind of record.... > > These two text appeared in a short while through the great shuffle > ipod I acchieved due to Bob4s kindness (+you know he lit a candle for > my loveluck and hey, 18 $ went up in smoke...and then we have the > shipping costs for donating money to jm.com, that still appears a > little strange, Les) Anyways, achieving this precious gift from > Mr.Muller has opened a new world for me. Suddenly I can carry all this > great music in my pocket, and it weighs nothing. Well, enough about > that. Listening to the ipod I suddenly traced a recembllence with > these two texts. Both Joni and Cohen sings about some person who has > retreated to his/her secret place- - - I started wondering if this > could be the same person. Most likey not, since I believe Coehn sings > about a woman and Joni ablut a man, those artist are JUST SOOO > STRAIGHT! Oh MY GOD! Well I believe I4ve heard that Joni and Cohen had > some sort of relationship in the sixties, and I4ve also heard from > great my Joni scholar and friend Karen Marie, that Cohen4s Rainy night > house might have a connection with Joni. So who in the world might > help me with this one, if any? > > Jonilove from Oddmund --- who is happy to pay only 10$ for Turbulent > IOndigo the other day, so finally I own a copy of this precious album ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:01:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Stalking Starbucks Dear Patti, The reception is coming in loud and clear from my end! I love how you are doing a saga leading up to "Shine Day". Joy and rapture that my Starbucks store is only a few feet from my apartment complex! I'm not sure I can get up that early but I think I can get there to buy it before the maddenning crowd arrives! Tres Magnifique mon amie!!!! Love, Sherelle Patti wrote: > >WARNING: Very long and JMOCDed and ooby shooby. If there's no good >reception for this, or you don't have time on your hands, then tune me out. > ; ) > > >Bon Chelsea matin, Joniami(e)s! > >Because our calendar girl Suze said: > >"August 2nd - find nearest Starbucks" > >I must follow zee orders! Jawohl! > >Parce que je suis une jeune fille rangee (Sherelle, ma belle: "Because I >am a good and dutiful girl", the title of Simone de Beauvoir's first >autobiography), I went to Starbucks yesterday. A day early! No >procastinating when it comes to Joni stuff! > >I have been in a Starbucks maybe three times in my life. > >So if you haven't followed the Cameronian Calendar yet, come, take my hand. > I'll make you welcome in! > >The streets are filled with passersby and pigeons fly >and people are sipping their tea and lemonade in the shade of the front >awning >as Patti in a coat of flowers >Steps inside a Starbucks store > >There are lots of pretty people there >Reading Rolling Stone reading Vogue > >They say: "How long can you hang around?" > >I say: "Not long, but I'll be back on CD-Day!" > >Nice grad student: "CD-Day?" > >Me, the chirp: "Don't you know? Joni Mitchell is releasing her new CD on >September 25th. Shine. It's the talk of the Joni Town! Be here, or be >square. You don't know Joni Mitchell? What, are you DAFT? You're so >square. Baby, I don't care." > >(Only kidding. That was a fictional "conversation" -- I'm not THAT >"twisted".) > >Okay. Patti's in the coffee shop. It is a lovely neutral cafe! >Earthtones. Colors of the sand and the sea. Scrumpdiddlyicous-looking >slices of cakes and breads and brownies today and the aroma of freshly >brewed coffee. It stuck to all my senses. Oh, won't you stay, we'll put >on the day! > >Let's look at the music rack, dreaming of the pleasure we're going to have >watching SHINE being displayed thereon. We spin it around and around, >playing a circle game, and see some tantalizing CDs: > >-- Ella > >-- Paul McCartney (my first musical love -- the walrus was Paul) > >-- Grateful Dead (a two-CD-set. When I read the song list I flashback to >my college roommates --"like America and Russia, we're always keeping >score": "Patti played two Jonis and we only got one Dead tonight so >far...bring her out a bottle and get her away from the turntable!"...LOL!) > >-- Surfer Music (not sure of the title, but it has some Beach Boys, >naturellement, and the theme from"Endless Summer".....ah, 1967, the Summer >of Love...."catch a wave and you're sittin' on top of the world".....la >nostaglie....."we can't return we can only look behind from where we >came"....sigh) > >And you know there may be more.... > >Let's look around the shop. Chocolate-covered espresso beans, fancy >coffee-makers, a display of Tazo teas, some stuffed animals, fancy cups, >incense owls by jewel-light and candlelight, crimson crystal beads to >beckon.... I sing in your ear: "I'd like to buy you everything >A wooden bird with painted wings >A window full of colored rings..." > >We saunter over to the counter to ask for the manager. She is not in so I >pick up her business card: > >Courtney Cheever >Store Manager >Starbucks Coffee Company > >I gotta talk to this chick to see if she wants extra help on CD-Day. She >probably has no idea that there will be THOUSANDS of people in the streets, >singing songs and carrying signs, saying: "Hurray for our SHINE!" outside >her store at 5 a.m. on September 25th. Yep, 5 a.m. is when they open. >I'll be there while the sun is ascending, right after I brush out my brood >mare's tail, of course. > >Okay, mes ami(e)s, time to leave. I'm going to buy a CD. Just one for >today, but the others are so tempting, makes me weak in the knees. Some of >the crazy you get from too much choice. And the music rack, it goes round >and round. Paul it is. It had to be you, Paul. And some tea. Yeah, >some tea! I select "Iced Black Tea." There is even French on the >box....ooh la la! Life is for learning French! "Le the noir glace de tazo >tonifiant et rafraichissant est un melange de feuilles de the de >l"Indonesie, du Sri Lanka et de l'Inde choisies ave soin, rehausse du'un >soupcon d'essences naturelles d'agrumes." > >Come up to my kitchen, and I'll show you my best reci-tea! > >I whip out my brand new, never-been-used Southwest Airlines visa card >(gotta start racking up miles of aisle-seat points for these flights >tonight!) and pay. The fair young maiden puts my purchases in a nice >brown paper Starbucks bag and I carry it out of the store, like a prize. > >Wow. > >Something tells me we're into something good. Baby, baby, can't you hear >my heart beat? > >Thanks for coming with me. That was fun! > >Now what are we doing tomorrow? I'll have to check. > >Love, > >Patti P. in Morning UConn Town > >_________________________________________________________________ >A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. >http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us > _________________________________________________________________ A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #235 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)