From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #233 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 3 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 233 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- jonifest UK ["Jeff Hankins" ] Wholy holy? ["Gordon MacKie" ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! [Mark-Leon Thorne] More news on upcoming Herbie Hancock tribute to Joni [Bob.Muller@Fluor.co] More details on the Hancock project [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Still more Herbie [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Still more Herbie ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! [Bob.Muller@Fluor] RE: Still more Herbie [Smurf ] Re: More details on the Hancock project [Smurf ] Re: Still more Herbie [FMYFL@aol.com] Blue transcription up on jmdl "guitar tabs" section [Dave Blackburn ] Random Joni thoughts...(kind of long) [Motitan@aol.com] RE: joni video on cbc website ["Hell" ] Joni in the workplace ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and anger [jeannie ] RE: joni video on cbc website [Mags ] More details on the Hancock project ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:44:17 +0100 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: jonifest UK Hey list I'd like to attend the UK Jonifest next year..What do I do? Who do I tell/ask? Should I wait to be invited? Cheers Jeff in Wales ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:36:51 +0100 From: "Gordon MacKie" Subject: Wholy holy? Holy wine Batman. Bruce, ..or is it Donald....I guess Catholic theology is important to you but I think you squeeze a lot of of vey little. It is inventive though. Sainted Mother? Thats a leap of faith too far for me. Gordon ( in dull and overcast Glasgow) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 21:35:45 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! Thanks Bob for another great covers volume. Hard to believe you're up to volume 91 already. As usual, it's another interesting mix. Love BeTI's BYT. Very mellow and funky. It's more like a cover of the BYT remixes than Joni's original. Denise Kaufmann certainly put lots of feeling into her covers but her voice doesn't really cut it for me. The instrumentation is lovely though. Julian Dawson's, The Gallery is very nice but, I'm afraid I'm of the school that says singers should change the gender of the storyteller in a song to match the singer. So, is this a song about a guy who switched camps for him and then back again? "I gave you all my pretty years". Who's a pretty boy then? "Lady please love me..."? Very confusing. Still, beautifully sung. I also liked Steven Curtis Chapman's, TCG. A little cheesy with the choir and his country music tones but a nice effort. Without meaning to seem biased, my favourite is Rose Bygrave's, Woodstock. I was ready to hate it but was pleasantly surprised. I have never heard of Rose but she has a Beth Orton tone to her voice. I always thought Beth Orton would do great justice to Joni's songs. Rose does a great job on this. Gorgeous instrumentation with the slide guitar and the bass with a hint of production to bring it up to date. This one's a treasure for me, Bob. Thanks. Nice to finally hear a decent Australian cover of a Joni song (Christine Sullivan not withstanding). Mark in Sydney NP Woodstock - Rose Bygrave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:43:29 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: More news on upcoming Herbie Hancock tribute to Joni http://tinyurl.com/25vt3x This is shaping up to be a very exciting project! TINA TURNER, CORINNE BAILEY RAE and LEONARD COHEN are among the stars who'll join jazz great HERBIE HANCOCK on his upcoming JONI MITCHELL tribute album. Hancock has reworked a handful of Mitchell classics on River: The Joni Letters, and he's asked his famous friends to join him in the studio. Mitchell herself joins Hancock for one track, The Tea Leaf Prophecy, while semi-retired Turner sings on Edith + The Kingpin. Other singers featured include Norah Jones and Luciana Souza. 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Looks like I have to take that day off. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003619877 Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Nighthawk Postcards (From Easy Street)" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:19:54 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Still more Herbie From his official website: Herbie Hancock's "River: The Joni Letters" Set For Release on September 25th Herbie Hancock's "River: The Joni Letters" Set For Release on September 25th Featured Guest Vocalists - Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Tina Turner, Norah Jones, Corinne Bailey Rae and Luciana Souza Joni Mitchell and Herbie Hancock, along with Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, Pablo Picasso, and other great artists of our time, share an incessant and profound creative restlessness. They each have always had the desire and need to break fresh ground with each note played or stroke of the brush. It was exactly this kind of curiosity which motivated Davis to hire Hancock in 1963 to be a part of, along with Wayne Shorter, Ron Carter, and Tony Williams, arguably one of the most important groups of musicians of the twentieth century. It was in fact Miles who told Hancock to "never finish anything." Hancock, like Joni Mitchell, has gone on to explore many different genres and mediums to express his incessant curiosity, working in the context of jazz, electronic music, funk, orchestral, and film music. Hancock first worked with Joni Mitchell on the iconic singer/songwriter's Mingus record, an album comprised of collaborations between Mitchell and the great bassist and composer Charles Mingus. Together with Wayne Shorter, Hancock was part of a small group with which Mitchell tried to craft a new "conversational" approach to coupling lyrics with instrumental jazz. "At this point in my career," Hancock says, "I want to do something that reaches into the lives and hearts of people." For "River", Hancock enlisted producer/ arranger/ bassist Larry Klein (Mitchell's long-time producer and creative partner, who has also produced albums by Madeleine Peyroux and Shawn Colvin among many others), to help him go deeply into Mitchell's body of work to select songs that Hancock and Klein could adapt to a genre-less and conversational musical approach, while trying to portray the breadth of Mitchell's gift as a musician and writer. To add another dimension to their picture of Mitchell's musical world, they also included two compositions that were important to her musical development, Wayne Shorter's asymmetrical masterpiece "Nefertiti", first recorded by Hancock and Shorter on Miles Davis' classic album of the same name, and Duke Ellington's prescient standard "Solitude". Hancock and Klein worked for months, carefully reading through Joni's lyrics and music, eventually paring their list down to thirteen songs that they hoped comprised a panoramic view of the poet's work. They then assembled a group of the top musicians in the world, including the incomparable Wayne Shorter on soprano and tenor sax, the brilliant bassist and composer Dave Holland, (a musical cohort of Hancock and Shorter's who shares their adventurousness, as well as the Miles Davis imprimatur), drummer Vinnie Colaiuta (a recent member of Hancock's band as well as having played extensively with Mitchell and Sting), and Benin-born guitarist Lionel Loueke, also a member of Hancock's band. They went on to craft arrangements for songs like the often recorded "Both Sides Now", and "Sweet Bird" (from Mitchell's overlooked classic The Hissing of Summer Lawns) that transformed the songs into lyrical and elegant instrumental tone poems, devoid of the trappings of conventional jazz records. "We wanted to create a new vocabulary, a new way of speaking in a musical sense," Hancock says. Klein adds, "we used the words to guide us. All of the music emanated from the poetry." They were also fortunate to be able to cast the vocal songs with some of the greatest singers in the music world. Joni herself sings the autobiographical musing on childhood "The Tea Leaf Prophecy", Tina Turner turns the beautiful prose of "Edith And The Kingpin" into a timeless piece of song-noir, Norah Jones delivers the wistful classic "Court and Spark", Corinne Bailey Rae turns the mournful Christmas classic "River" into an innocent and optimistic poem of bittersweet romance, Brazilian-born Luciana Souza becomes a dark third voice to Hancock and Shorter on "Amelia", and in a stark and cinematic closer, Leonard Cohen recites the brilliant and surreal lyric to "The Jungle Line" as Hancock provides film score-like improvised accompaniment. River: The Joni Letters represents a journey into a new world in Hancock's search for fresh ground. A world of words. 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:33:37 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Still more Herbie "Tina Turner turns the beautiful prose of "Edith And The Kingpin" into a timeless piece of song-noir" Last time I checked, "Edith" was verse, not prose. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:40:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! Thanks for the feedback, Mark - and of course for your help in assembling it. Glad that you found much to like on it - I agree with most everything you said. An interesting footnote about Denise Kaufmann. On the same album these two covers were on ("Dream Flight") she included an original song of hers called "Song For Joni" which of course is a tribute to her. I had previously uploaded the track and shared it on the JMDL along with her lyrics. I was really ready to dismiss SCC's "Circle Game" cover but instead found it quite pretty & touching. Shame on me for my prejudice. Regarding the gender issue in Julian Dawson's "Gallery" cover, I guess I don't have a problem with a man or woman singing a song written for the voice of the other gender - I actually prefer they do so in fact as opposed to changing the he's to she's and so on. I don't think that it has to be autobiographical in every instance, where the voice of the singer is playing the role of the character in the song. Julian's project (he covers all female writers) is sort of an answer to Tori Amos' "Strange Little Girls" where she covers all male writers. 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: RE: Still more Herbie Richard rote: << Last time I checked, "Edith" was verse, not prose. >> I missed that because I was gagging on "a timeless piece of song-noir." --SoB Richard Flynn wrote: "Tina Turner turns the beautiful prose of "Edith And The Kingpin" into a timeless piece of song-noir" Last time I checked, "Edith" was verse, not prose. - --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:46:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: More details on the Hancock project Muller sez: "And it's even coming out on September 25th! Looks like I have to take that day off." I think a lot of people on this list are going to have their heads explode that day . . . --SoB . - --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:52:00 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Still more Herbie WOW, now there's 2 CD's to look forward to on September 25th! Thanks for the info, Bob. Jimmy In a message dated 8/2/2007 9:23:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: > Herbie Hancock's "River: The Joni Letters" Set For Release on September > 25th > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 06:56:37 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Blue transcription up on jmdl "guitar tabs" section Dear piano players on list, Les has now posted the piano transcription of Blue that Barnaby Finch and I wrote out for our last show. If I may say so it is dead on for accuracy. I did not include the vocal line though; it's only the piano part but I may add the vocal line above it so it is clear where you are in the song. I think Les may be creating a piano section for jmdl but for now the chart resides in the guitar tabs section, searchable in the database, along with Down to You which has been up for a year or so. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:00:51 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Still more Herbie And if you want to complete the hat trick, Chaka Khan's "Funk This" also drops on that date - it has a funky version of 'Ladies' Man" on it. Bob, head percolating already NP: Steely Dan, "Any Major Dude" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:40:42 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Blue transcription up on jmdl "guitar tabs" section Ooh, excellent! I actually have been thinking about learning a Joni song or two on piano (well I only a keyboard but you know). Now I'm not very proficient on the keys due to the fact that my guitar takes up most of my time. I do love the piano though but hardly play it enough to really be anything special. But I can read music a bit. I can't just sit down, look at the sheet music, and start playing right away perfectly. I really find it impressive how people can do that. I mean think about all those session players that can paid (very well) by the hour who just look at the music and play! See, I started out reading music a bit but slowly but surely moved away from it. However, I know if the sheet music is there....and I spend some time on it....and I'm really into it, I could do it. Blue would definitely be a great song to learn... - -M ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:03:09 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Stalking Starbucks WARNING: Very long and JMOCDed and ooby shooby. If there's no good reception for this, or you don't have time on your hands, then tune me out. ; ) Bon Chelsea matin, Joniami(e)s! Because our calendar girl Suze said: "August 2nd - find nearest Starbucks" I must follow zee orders! Jawohl! Parce que je suis une jeune fille rangee (Sherelle, ma belle: "Because I am a good and dutiful girl", the title of Simone de Beauvoir's first autobiography), I went to Starbucks yesterday. A day early! No procastinating when it comes to Joni stuff! I have been in a Starbucks maybe three times in my life. So if you haven't followed the Cameronian Calendar yet, come, take my hand. I'll make you welcome in! The streets are filled with passersby and pigeons fly and people are sipping their tea and lemonade in the shade of the front awning as Patti in a coat of flowers Steps inside a Starbucks store There are lots of pretty people there Reading Rolling Stone reading Vogue They say: "How long can you hang around?" I say: "Not long, but I'll be back on CD-Day!" Nice grad student: "CD-Day?" Me, the chirp: "Don't you know? Joni Mitchell is releasing her new CD on September 25th. Shine. It's the talk of the Joni Town! Be here, or be square. You don't know Joni Mitchell? What, are you DAFT? You're so square. Baby, I don't care." (Only kidding. That was a fictional "conversation" -- I'm not THAT "twisted".) Okay. Patti's in the coffee shop. It is a lovely neutral cafe! Earthtones. Colors of the sand and the sea. Scrumpdiddlyicous-looking slices of cakes and breads and brownies today and the aroma of freshly brewed coffee. It stuck to all my senses. Oh, won't you stay, we'll put on the day! Let's look at the music rack, dreaming of the pleasure we're going to have watching SHINE being displayed thereon. We spin it around and around, playing a circle game, and see some tantalizing CDs: - -- Ella - -- Paul McCartney (my first musical love -- the walrus was Paul) - -- Grateful Dead (a two-CD-set. When I read the song list I flashback to my college roommates --"like America and Russia, we're always keeping score": "Patti played two Jonis and we only got one Dead tonight so far...bring her out a bottle and get her away from the turntable!"...LOL!) - -- Surfer Music (not sure of the title, but it has some Beach Boys, naturellement, and the theme from"Endless Summer".....ah, 1967, the Summer of Love...."catch a wave and you're sittin' on top of the world".....la nostaglie....."we can't return we can only look behind from where we came"....sigh) And you know there may be more.... Let's look around the shop. Chocolate-covered espresso beans, fancy coffee-makers, a display of Tazo teas, some stuffed animals, fancy cups, incense owls by jewel-light and candlelight, crimson crystal beads to beckon.... I sing in your ear: "I'd like to buy you everything A wooden bird with painted wings A window full of colored rings..." We saunter over to the counter to ask for the manager. She is not in so I pick up her business card: Courtney Cheever Store Manager Starbucks Coffee Company I gotta talk to this chick to see if she wants extra help on CD-Day. She probably has no idea that there will be THOUSANDS of people in the streets, singing songs and carrying signs, saying: "Hurray for our SHINE!" outside her store at 5 a.m. on September 25th. Yep, 5 a.m. is when they open. I'll be there while the sun is ascending, right after I brush out my brood mare's tail, of course. Okay, mes ami(e)s, time to leave. I'm going to buy a CD. Just one for today, but the others are so tempting, makes me weak in the knees. Some of the crazy you get from too much choice. And the music rack, it goes round and round. Paul it is. It had to be you, Paul. And some tea. Yeah, some tea! I select "Iced Black Tea." There is even French on the box....ooh la la! Life is for learning French! "Le the noir glace de tazo tonifiant et rafraichissant est un melange de feuilles de the de l"Indonesie, du Sri Lanka et de l'Inde choisies ave soin, rehausse du'un soupcon d'essences naturelles d'agrumes." Come up to my kitchen, and I'll show you my best reci-tea! I whip out my brand new, never-been-used Southwest Airlines visa card (gotta start racking up miles of aisle-seat points for these flights tonight!) and pay. The fair young maiden puts my purchases in a nice brown paper Starbucks bag and I carry it out of the store, like a prize. Wow. Something tells me we're into something good. Baby, baby, can't you hear my heart beat? Thanks for coming with me. That was fun! Now what are we doing tomorrow? I'll have to check. Love, Patti P. in Morning UConn Town _________________________________________________________________ A new home for Mom, no cleanup required. All starts here. http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:08:05 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Random Joni thoughts...(kind of long) Well instead of replying to everything one by one or starting a few different threads, I figure I'll just lump in all my random Joni thoughts in this post. The only way they are connected is that they are all about Joni. That's just how my mind is--full of random, unconnected thoughts that circle 'round and 'round until I get them out into the open. First off, I watched Woman of Heart & Mind again yesterday. Oh, what a wonderful DVD! It's so very informative and entertaining! I just love how Joni said that her goal in life was just to make it through with a good heart. Amen to that! But my question is why is "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" skipped? There's not even a mention of it in the whole DVD. It goes right from C&S to Hejira. I would have liked some discussion on it even if it is brief. That being said, does anyone know of any more recent articles offhand where Joni discusses the album? It's such a brilliant album. I'd like to hear Joni's insight into it and opinion on it after some time had passed. I may have to do a search for it. I'd like to hear what she thinks of it nowadays as opposed to when it first came out. Also, from watching that DVD, I know a question I would ask Joni if I ever met her (I also have 4 things I would tell Joni as well if I met her---but that's for another day). Now I don't think I'll actually ever meet her. The only way such a thing would happen would have to come from stalking on my part. And well, stalking's not really my thing. It doesn't go with my look. :P Anyway, in that DVD Joni said anything that moves her influences her. My question to her would be, "You've got so many influences that have grown and faded throughout the years. You once said that anything that moves you, influences you. What moves you these days?" That would be my question! I remember there was a thread regarding questions you'd ask Joni if you had the chance.... I'm getting so excited for the upcoming new album! I almost can't wait but as it goes "patience is a virtue." I don't think I'm going to dwell on Joni and Starbucks anymore. At first, some of the negativity surrounding this really irritated me (I don't mean to offend anyone on the list who had their own doubts on Starbuck and Joni mind you). In fact, sometimes some comments upset me. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion which I understand. I just want everyone to be happy there's a new album coming out! Sometimes a lot of the negativity in the world (now I'm speaking just in general) really gets to me. It's almost as if there's always some barrier to happiness. Sometimes I wonder if human beings are truly capable of being happy. So I don't understand certain things in the world. I suppose I never will. Enough Joni rambling...... - -Monika, going to blast Joni and Neil...and probably the Beatles...and two other artists on her sister's 5 disc stereo after signing off.... ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 05:29:26 +1200 From: "Hell" Subject: RE: joni video on cbc website Mags wrote: > yes indeedy, it's www.cbc.ca > > Doug, it's just the main page of the cbc, and there's a small > little icon thingity to the right. As Kev said, it's just a wee > bit about Joan signing on with Hear Music. I managed to view it at work - amazing, considering I usually have trouble viewing this sort of thing because of our firewall settings. But did anyone else notice them talking about a "two CD deal with Hear Music"? The first is Shine, but I don't remember hearing about any others - have I missed something? Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:54:27 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Joni in the workplace Wow. Just got some REAL Joni in the workplace. Suki came in. She's the tiny ballet dancer who walked down the aisle to Joni's "Love" and who met her and talked to her twice in the Hammerstein Theater (and Joni was loving and kind). Anyway, she is defending her disseration today. So she comes in with a present for ME? It's her *own* shining hour and I should be giving *her* a present. Anyway, I open the gift bag and what is staring me right in the face: JONI! With a black beret on, her chin resting on her impossibly gentle hand. I started crying. I see something of Joni's self in everyone, just at this moment of the world... Oh. It's a book. "The Joni Mitchell Companion", by STacy Luftig. I don't have it! I'm so thrilled! Make my day! Suki was thrilled, too. She thought for sure I would have it already. It has pictures! One I've never seen before...Joni & Graham, 1969, Corbis/Henry Diltz. He's surrounded by a fur collar and she has on a knitted cap (I want to knit you a sweater, Joni!) and he is absolutely BEAMING! (Well, wouldn't you beam if you were cheek to cheek with Joni?). "A love like I have *never* known...." The billboard for MOA.....oh my, oh my!! Bonnie and Joni in Illinois in 1985. She has short hair! I know, I should calm down. Prolly all these essays are in our library. (Thank you, Les!) It's just the timing, you know? I"m porous with Joni fever, and I'm so glad I'm not alone here! She wrote inside: "For Patti, who knows what's important. Love, Suki" Joni is important! And so is Love & peace, Patti P. P.S. Yet another gift today. A grad student just back from her home in the Netherlands brought me some Droste's chocolate. NPIMH: Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam...... P.S.S. Monika, are you here? Recently you said you can do something good and get 15 people to say something nice, and then ONE PERSON says something negative and spoils it. That just happened. Boopsie, the Joni-hater in my dept., just came in and I showed her the book and she scowled and asked if I were seeing a therapist. I told her my analyst told me it's good to have some passions in life, and she sniffed and said: "It's clearly over the line into obsession." Harrumph! Some people! Joni was right encore une fois: There's always somebody bringing you down. _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see troublebefore he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:11:26 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and anger Dear Donna, Well, as long as it's only your delete button and not your index or middle finger that's worn out. ;} Listen, here in San Antonio, pit-bull fighting is out of control, like child murders and child abuse and most are commited by breath-taking ignorant Latinos. It's people, like the ones I know and admire, who are changing these evil ways of the city. San Antonio can be a backwood, boondock city in many ways, too, and our animal care services are run by educated backward fools. Everytime I'd go to the City Pound, the director would use illiterate sign language to the employees to rush to do the things they're supposed to be doing, like being compassionate to animals and throwing the whistle-blowers out of their territory. We've had at least three City Pound directors come and go in just a couple of years, due to the scrutiny. Things are changing, finally. And you know what? When we show the fighting pitbull homeboys the love we have for their fighting pits, they look at us weird. But, who cares? It ends up being effective. We've surely come a very long way. Thanks to cities like Houston, things for the fighting dogs are easing up down here in our neck of the woods. The homeboys are having to lay down their breathtaking ignorance and behind that stupid tough exterior of theirs is usually a very wounded child who came into this world to wander into a breath-taking ignorant environment. But when the good fight for the light here comes on, the use of finesse and strategies using common sense and common etiquette and understanding and listening are highly recommended. If we spew out anger, it'll be ineffective and they won't let down their "fuck-off" finger. ? Sounds like a theme for a Joni Mitchell song to me. Jean Can you imagine if a Hispanic surnamed artist like Jerry Garcia had run a large fighting pit-bull community? Or present day sportsters like "Big Papi," David Ortiz or Manny Ramirez, Alex Rodriguez, Tony Romo, Tony Gonzalez, and so many more. I'd be so hurt and upset. These are my "Homeboy Homies." Anarchy on the JMDL? "Lay down your arms.. Lay 'em down, lay 'em down, now." jean ley wrote: Well as much as i hate to have to chime in on this STUPID THREAD, the Hispanic community gets the blame for the pit bull bullshit in my neck of the woods, and guess what go a little further east, say AK or MS and you can blame it on the white rednecks. I guess there are assholes everywhere. Jeez let one person make one comment and it turns into fucking anarchy around here. Sorry but my delete button is worn out. db >>> Debra Shea 8/1/2007 11:31 PM >>> - --- jeannie wrote: > So, with this pit-bull issue, yes, the Black > community > gets the shit blame. I wish I could tape this coming > Saturday evening conversation at the joint as > proof. I'm not used to such overt racism. The kind I hear is much more subtle, which in some ways is even harder to do battle against. > It leads to much conversation with me, 'ya see? Yes, I see. Your chatty charm is crystal clear. :-) Debra Shea - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:13:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni in the workplace You are lucky, Patti. There are a lot of bad books about Joni out there but Staci's book is one of the better ones. Jerry Patti Parlette wrote: > Wow. Just got some REAL Joni in the workplace. > > Suki came in. She's the tiny ballet dancer who walked down the aisle to > Joni's "Love" and who met her and talked to her twice in the Hammerstein > Theater (and Joni was loving and kind). Anyway, she is defending her > disseration today. > > So she comes in with a present for ME? It's her *own* shining hour and I > should be giving *her* a present. > > Anyway, I open the gift bag and what is staring me right in the face: > JONI! > With a black beret on, her chin resting on her impossibly gentle hand. > > I started crying. I see something of Joni's self in everyone, just at > this > moment of the world... > > Oh. It's a book. "The Joni Mitchell Companion", by STacy Luftig. I > don't > have it! I'm so thrilled! Make my day! Suki was thrilled, too. She > thought for sure I would have it already. > > It has pictures! One I've never seen before...Joni & Graham, 1969, > Corbis/Henry Diltz. He's surrounded by a fur collar and she has on a > knitted cap (I want to knit you a sweater, Joni!) and he is absolutely > BEAMING! (Well, wouldn't you beam if you were cheek to cheek with Joni?). > "A love like I have *never* known...." > > The billboard for MOA.....oh my, oh my!! Bonnie and Joni in Illinois in > 1985. She has short hair! > > I know, I should calm down. Prolly all these essays are in our library. > (Thank you, Les!) It's just the timing, you know? I"m porous with Joni > fever, and I'm so glad I'm not alone here! > > She wrote inside: "For Patti, who knows what's important. Love, Suki" > > Joni is important! > > And so is Love & peace, > > Patti P. > > P.S. Yet another gift today. A grad student just back from her home in > the > Netherlands brought me some Droste's chocolate. NPIMH: Maybe I'll go to > Amsterdam...... > > P.S.S. Monika, are you here? Recently you said you can do something good > and get 15 people to say something nice, and then ONE PERSON says > something > negative and spoils it. That just happened. Boopsie, the Joni-hater in > my > dept., just came in and I showed her the book and she scowled and asked if > I > were seeing a therapist. I told her my analyst told me it's good to have > some passions in life, and she sniffed and said: "It's clearly over the > line into obsession." > > Harrumph! Some people! Joni was right encore une fois: There's always > somebody bringing you down. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Now you can see troublebefore he arrives > http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: RE: joni video on cbc website Hell wrote: Hell on wheels wrote ;--P But did anyone else notice them talking about a "two CD deal with Hear Music"? The first is Shine, but I don't remember hearing about any others - have I missed something? and now moi: hey Hell, thing is , Im sure everyone has chimed in already but since you asked ;-) ... yes there's a two CD signing so we can look forward to more. yay...much MORE Joni (hi Jamie ;-) - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:31:34 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: More details on the Hancock project Musik Meister Muller wrote: "And it's even coming out on September 25th! Looks like I have to take that day off." Say what? You haven't already asked for CD-Day off? Baby, I'm amazed! xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see troublebefore he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:43:23 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E I have to agree...i was counting on something dirty.... ;-) C - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" To: "Suze Cameron" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E > --- Suze Cameron wrote: > >> Cat wrote: August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping >> is really a >> sport >> >> OK, I give up. What is reuben tipping? Or should it >> be >> who is Reuben Tipping? >> >> My answer: Ruben is the big fellow from American >> idol (or as I call it >> Idull) a few years back. This was my lame attempt at >> making a snide >> remark about someone's size, which clearly shows >> that I am sizest. >> > > Crikey. Like cow tipping. I actually googled "reuben > tipping" and got some results (including at least one > person named "Reuben Tipping") but none of them made > sense. I thought it might be some weird kind of > Michigan or Wisconsin urban slang. > > I'm a bit disappointed in you, though. I was hoping it > was going to be something dirty. ;-) > > > Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:30:11 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Still more Herbie Songlist makes me expect something spectacular DAVID LAHM ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:58:40 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Chicago Area Shine Release Listening Party Just wondering if there is anyone out there interested in joining me on the night of the 25th for a Shine Release Listening Party? I've got a few friends already planning on coming over. I'll serve some snacks and cocktails (and maybe some frapachinos!), and we can listen to the new Herbie, and of course Shine! Some older Joni will probably also be on the menu. I've got a very nice stereo, and a very comfortable party room in the basement. I can accommodate about 10 people. So if you're in or near the Chicago area, and feel like joining a few Joni fans for the release of her new album, contact me off the list. In case it matters, I live in the western suburb of Bartlett. Jack ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Chicago Area Shine Release Listening Party - --- Merk54@aol.com wrote: > Just wondering if there is anyone out there > interested in joining me on the > night of the 25th for a Shine Release Listening > Party? I've got a few friends > already planning on coming over. I'll serve some > snacks and cocktails (and > maybe some frapachinos!), and we can listen to the > new Herbie, and of course > Shine! Some older Joni will probably also be on the > menu. > > I've got a very nice stereo, and a very comfortable > party room in the > basement. I can accommodate about 10 people. > > So if you're in or near the Chicago area, and feel > like joining a few Joni > fans for the release of her new album, contact me > off the list. What if we were to do something like that virtually? What time's your party, Jack, and what time zone? Maybe we could go to the chat room (if we still have one) and listen and... chat. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Chicago Area Shine Release Listening Party I was thinking the same thing, Catherine - and yes, we still have a chat room. You can bookmark it now or go to the homepage, click on "Banquet" and follow the links. http://pub24.bravenet.com/chat/show.php/1976158344 I would imagine that there could be an all-day chat given all the time zones represented here. Of course, I don't want to rain on Jack's parade - I only wish I lived in Chicago area so I could show up at Jack's. Not a lot of JMDLer's in the Upstate SC area. Bob NP: XTC, "Smartest Monkeys" - --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Random Joni thoughts...(kind of long) That had me scratching my head too, Monika - I certainly don't know why it was totally skipped over but it's certainly conspicuous in its absence, isn't it? Maybe there's an entire extra DVD in the works about HOSL, he said with tongue firmly inserted in cheek. Bob NP: REM, "Low" - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:07:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Chicago Area Shine Release Listening Party - --- Bob Muller wrote: > yes, we still have a chat room. You can bookmark it > now or go to the homepage, click on "Banquet" and > follow the links. > > http://pub24.bravenet.com/chat/show.php/1976158344 > > I would imagine that there could be an all-day > chat given all the time zones represented here. > > Of course, I don't want to rain on Jack's parade - > I only wish I lived in Chicago area so I could show > up at Jack's. Not a lot of JMDLer's in the Upstate > SC area. > We'd all be there in person if we lived nearby. As it is, we'll be there virtually for 24 hours more or less, and he'll never be able to get rid of us. We'll arrive early and stay too late. We'll use a new glass every time we get something to drink. We'll spill red wine and cheetohs on his carpets. We'll eat him out of house and home and make long-distance calls all over the world using his phone, and he'll wish he had never invited us. But we'll all have a good time. (I'll probably forget the date.) Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:15:18 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Random Joni thoughts...(kind of long) In a message dated 8/2/2007 10:03:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scjoniguy@yahoo.com writes: That had me scratching my head too, Monika - I certainly don't know why it was totally skipped over but it's certainly conspicuous in its absence, isn't it? Maybe there's an entire extra DVD in the works about HOSL, he said with tongue firmly inserted in cheek. Bob - ---------------------------------------------- If only we could make things true just by simply saying them...... Now who here had seen Woman of Heart and Mind when it first aired? Didn't it first air on PBS before being released? Now when it aired on PBS, I read that some of the footage was considerably absent in the release. I read that there was some early footage of Joni smoking a joint with the boys (who I take to be CSN or CSNY), as well as scenes of Joni and Graham Nash riding in a car, etc etc (which I can understand why those would be edited out). Of course I read there was quite a bit added to what was released--more of Joni's painting, more later concert performances, etc. Can anyone verify if what I read is indeed the case? - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Here's something that everyone can laugh at Don't worry, this will never make a Covers Volume. Several LOL moments on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo4ADHjSb3I Bob NP: see above - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:08:55 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Here's something that everyone can laugh at LOL Bob!! I like this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgEdqlfPZg0 It isn't Joni but a Stevie Nicks parody. I heard this (or something extremely similar to it) on the radio years ago, and have been looking for it for awhile now. There it was above your link. I like Stevie....but this one always made me laugh. Best regards, Gary Bob Muller wrote: >Don't worry, this will never make a Covers Volume. Several LOL moments on this one: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo4ADHjSb3I > > Bob > > NP: see above > > >--------------------------------- >Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:54:59 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: RE: joni video on cbc website Hello, Hell. Yes, she's working on the morbid Christmas CD after this. LOL. No, it's a 10 song cycle on Hitler's religious views. The working title is "Adolf: The Fuhrer, Son, and Holy Ghost." No, there's been no word on the disc after "Shine", but the crops rotated, the bravado is back, and she's thinking. She's thinking. Jim L. Hell wrote: >But did anyone else notice them talking about a "two CD deal with Hear Music"? The first is Shine, but I don't remember hearing about any others - have I missed something?> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:18:39 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Shine release listening party A cool cat wrote: > Maybe we could go to the chat room (if we still have > one) and listen and... chat. > Sounds cool. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 05:23:29 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Peace, and some Joni... Dear Ones: It's very late when I walk in....I was just about to share something about the great Joni book I received today (you are right, Jerry...it's one of the better ones!) and then the latest digest popped up. I just read (skimmed) it and it made me sad. There seems to be some bad vibes/misunderstandings going around. Maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, but it's touching my soul in a bad way. And then I got an email ten minutes ago from someone in Europe who wants to unsubscribe, and s/he asked me how to do it. C'mon people, smile on your Joni brothers and sisters, everybody get together, try to love one another right now. We're going have to have ourselves a peace talk, in some neutral cafe. Starbucks, anyone? Or Jack's place? Hi Jack! Please don't flame me. I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. I swear to Joni! Okay, let's get down to Joni, the reason I turned my computer back on so late. Probably most of you already know about this, but it's new to me, and probably will be to Monika, and you know there may be more... It's delightful! In the introduction to "The Joni Mitchell Companion: Four Decades of Commentary", edited by Stacey Luftig, I read: (and I'm typing this out in a labour of love, with tired eyes, so please forgive all typos, which I hate, as does Monika....speaking of which, I am mortified at my "deja vous" comment today which should have been"deja vu"....merde! lol...) "My gratitude also goes to two creators of wonderful Web sites: to Wally Breese, for the multifaceted Joni Mitchell Homepage at http://www.jonimitchell.com; and to Les Irvin, for cheerfully, speedily, and tirelessly helping me track down all sorts of Joni-related facts and for his library-of-a-site at http://www.jmdl.com. Thanks also to the jmdl discussion group for their open-hearted support (hey! that's us!) ; and particular thanks to John Melchert of the jmdl discussion group, for his feedback and editorial support and for his listening." Three cheers for Les and the JMDL! Nice, isn't it? Don't you love it when you pick up a book and there's a personal connection or a mention of a place you have been...like Hemingway's "A Moveable Feast" that mentions Place Contrescarpe in Paris (where I spent my first night as a free woman in Paris) , or Wally Lamb talking about South Campus at UConn, or..... Good night! With lots of love and peaceful vibes to all, Patti P. NP outside my window: crickets, and tree frogs _________________________________________________________________ Learn.Laugh.Share. Reallivemoms is right place! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #233 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)