From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #232 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, August 2 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 232 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shine sampler [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Eurofest 2008 [missblux@googlemail.com] Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! [Bob Muller ] joni video on cbc website [Mags ] Re: Court and Spark [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Shine sampler [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP [jeannie ] Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP [jeannie ] Re: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert [jeannie ] SV: JMDL Digest V2007 #290 ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E [Catherine McKay ] SJC (LONG) Racism, but also (Starbucks) both sides now... ["Oddmund Kaare] Re: joni video on cbc website [Mags ] Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:22:19 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Shine sampler Monika, I just extracted the little song samples from the Amanda Ghost interview with Joni. They are varying lengths from a couple of seconds to just over 2 minutes. If you're having trouble downloading it, I can e-mail them one at a time to you if you like. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:28:41 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Eurofest 2008 Yes, Dave I want to be there! Thanks for asking.... I suffer from formula-phobia - knowing that I need to figure out if I still have a Pay-Pal account or if I should open a new one is enough to make me postpone signing up for days. For some reason, these things put me off in a way that is completely out of proportion. But I do want to go, and I want to camp put on the land. Lucy, I will read your email again and get it sorted. Will do.... Bene On 7/31/07, Dave Blackburn wrote: > What? No Dr. Bene or Marion nipping over the North Sea to join us in England > next year? It will be great to meet Oddmund, Catherine and the rest. > > So, Lucy, is there some kind of performance area at Holycombe with P.A or > are we envisioning bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? > > > > thanks, > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! Howdy Ho, Joni fans. Hard to believe that the summer is starting to wind down, and that it's time to start talking about 'back to school' and such. And of course, here in America, all the stores will soon be aglow with Christmas displays. But enough of that...let's talk about something that's worthy of REAL celebration - yet another release in the never-ending series of Joni Mitchell Cover compilations. And August brings us to #91 as we inch our way to the Joni Cover Centennial. And as is the case with most of these, I've gone around the globe and back to bring it to you. As is usually the case, I didn't do it by myself. I gotta thank the JMDLer's who chipped in with this one, so a tip and a shake of the cap to Michael Paz and Mark-Leon Thorne for their help. So, let's get into it, shall we? Go get it here: http://download.yousendit.com/990D29456428EE17 And listen along while I jabber my spot-on evaluations and opinions about these artists & songs: 1. Michelle Branch - River: Michelle made an appearance on "Good Morning America" in December 2005 and performed Joni's happy holiday classic. Michelle is a semi-famous solo artist and also is half of The Wreckers, a country duo. Her take on River is quite nice and features some nice instrumentation too. 2. BeTI - Big Yellow Taxi: BeTI is short for "Beyond The Influences". This cover lifts it's arrangement from Janet Jackson's "Got 'til it's Gone" (even including the phrase at times) and as such is sort of a slow-soul-jam. While I don't necessarily dislike it, and I'm always happy to hear a BYT cover that doesn't just try and imitate the Crows' cover, this one goes on too long so a lot of makes it interesting to start with wears thin. 3. Rose Bygrave - Woodstock: Australia makes another fine contribution to the collection. The opening slide guitar sets the scene perfectly, and the pacing and harmonies are divine. She also inserts a unique bridge in the center. 4. Norbert Gottschalk - Both Sides Now: The first of a couple of German entries in this edition, Norbert's guitar playing is very nice and so is his voice, shining with a warmth that is highlighted by his nimble playing. 5. Susan Cowsill - A Case Of You: A JMDL exclusive! Susan has been a part of the music scene for a long time, first as part of The Cowsills and now a singer-songwriter on her own. I love the heartfelt quality of her voice, a perfect fit for this song. Also featured is some beautiful acoustic guitar to match. Susan also contributed "Chelsea Morning" and "The Last Time I Saw Richard" to the 2-CD Pazfest collection. 6. Satin Sheets - Big Yellow Taxi: Semi-Cheesy 70's instrumental arrangement, sounds like the MOA version played at 78 or maybe background music for a magician or a dog act - still, there's some nice horn work and in the right setting I suppose you could get into some serious twisting by the pool with it. 7. Brenda Morie - Twisted: Like her website says, it's a blending of smoky jazz vocals and rich flute. I've always been a flute fan, so I can dig this one as we don't get a lot of flute here in Jonicoverville. 8. Poon Sow Keng - Both Sides Now: Chinese-language version of BSN. To my ears a pretty and tender version of the song. 9. Denise Kaufmann - Edith And The Kingpin: Denise recorded this track in 1976, and that's pretty noteworthy as HOSL had not been out long at that time. She obviously had a better jump on lots of the press that had dismissed the album. Denise stays pretty true to the original arrangement but puts several personal twists and spins on some of the melodic lines. Me likey. 10. Denise Kaufmann - The Last I Saw Richard: Like her or not, you have to give Ms. Kaufmann credit for digging deep into Joni's catalogue for covers. Denise substitutes James Taylor-like guitar for piano and once again sticks close to Joni's arrangement, offering some small deviations to help put her own stamp on it. 11. No Fixed Abode - Big Yellow Taxi: This folk duo from England offers up a spirited version of BYT. Some nice original vocal touches, a solid effort throughout. 12. Steven Curtis Chapman - The Circle Game: From his 2005 CD "Musical Blessings", and a nice fresh arrangement that sets SCC up to navigate the melody in a very pleasant fashion. If I remember correctly, SCC is mostly a Christian-music artist, and has adopted Chinese children. He pays tribute to that union by including a Chinese children's choir here and including part of the chorus in Chinese and part in English. I find it very moving and I like this track a lot. He also release a video to promote the track. 13. b-flower - Both Sides Now: Japanese pop-folk with Byrds-like jangly guitars. I like the peppy arrangement but not so much for the vocal. Although I suppose the liteness and airiness of it complements the musical setting. 14. Rafael Jung Trio with Britta Rex - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: Germany sends this one to us, a solid jazz workout with some great solos from all concerned. Although I hear drums, guitar, bass, organ - not sure how many other members in the 'trio', but that's a minor point as this track is such a strong one. Britta's vocals complement the band and she navigates the changes with ease and even throws in some blue-scatting. 15. Ralph Usdan - Carey: Hmmm...this one hits the ear pretty hard. Ralph's Johnny Cash-wannabe voice is more basso profundo which is odd enough when you're used to hearing Joni's soaring soprano. He alters the lyrics in order to switch gender..."Carey, I'll whip out my cane"??? Reminds me of Blazing Saddles. Will probably not be your favorite track on this one. 16. Linda Wilmot - Big Yellow Taxi: Basic GwG, nothing to get overly excited about. Both girl and guitar are pretty dull. Better than Track 20 at least. 17. Plastik - A Case Of You: Also from England, this website-download-only track came out in 2006. Plastik typically rocks pretty hard so this is a bit of a different sound for them. I don't particularly care for the male vocalist, a bit too much warble and emoting for my tastes. I do like the backing musicians and arrangement however. 18. Julian Dawson - The Gallery: Another English entry, Julian is based in Somerset and is a solo artist as well as a member of the group Plainsong. This Graham Nash-like take on The Gallery (a very underdone song in the Joni canon) was part of his latest CD which was a tribute to women songwriters titled "Nothing Like A Dame". 19. Husker Du - "You're So Square, Baby I Don't Care": I'm happy to include this one, never released by the 80's SST power trio but included on a live bootleg LP. Puts their heavy, dark and fast stylings on display, and stretches out to 4-minutes what most folks do in two. Bob Mould went on to a memorable career, both solo and as the leader of Sugar Blue. 20. David Devaney, Jr. - Big Yellow Taxi: Bad karaoke. In a perfect world, this track would not exist. Hate to end such a fine volume on such a crappy note - but hey, if I'd have kicked #91 off with this track you might not have kept listening. Anyway, hope you found a couple here that you like - as always thanks for reading, thanks for listening, and thanks as always to Joni for writing such an incredible catalogue of songs that continue to inspire musicians from all corners of the world. Bob - --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 05:13:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Shine stuff its great watching you all be so excited about Joni's upcoming new baby. This is her 1st really new musical recorded work she's made since I've been on the list, and its nice to see it. I have high hopes for it! Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: joni video on cbc website Ive tried to run this but for some reason, cannot get it to work. however, here's the link to the cbc home page, where you'll find the video The Scene: Joni Mitchell. if anyone has a suggestion as to how i can get this to work, pls let me know off list, thanks mags - --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail - --------------------------------- Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:16:07 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Court and Spark My sweet bird wrote: > I am rambling .. obvioulsy I have alot of pent up joni in me.. : peace and > love and light to you all.. kevin (the jersey one) lol > Hi Love, Great to read your post! CAS was one of my first Joni albums too, given to me by a friend. I see it sort of as the cover of the book with all the other albums of her songs being the pages. It has a strong radio connection so it can draw people. Recently I heard CAS Help Me overhead twice in Lowes. I go straight to the kitchen section, look for a cat, and start dancing. Keep venting Joni here! Love, Laura ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:50:09 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Shine sampler Oh no, no problem downloading it! It's all saved away in my folder on the computer. It took less time than I thought (only a little bit over 2 hours with being on dial-up and all). It's great to get this sneak preview! Thanks for posting the link! I must say, though I'm a guitar girl through and through (only play a little piano), I love hearing all the piano on the tracks! The piano is one of the most beautiful sounding instruments. I'd say even moreso than guitar (though as I said, I love guitars!). And of course a melancholic song played on piano will get you like no other. So far, I think I like the songs "If" and "Shine" the best. Of course that's most likely due to the fact that these are the longest snippets! All in all, we're waiting for a treat it seems. - -Monika, just back from dropping off her brother and sister to the airport for their Seattle trip...awfully quite in the house now... P.S. Here'a random Joni comment said by my brother the other day. We were talking about them going away to Seattle for a week and he said with a mischevious smile, "you're going to miss me. I know it. You're going to miss all my Neil and Joni bashing. Just admit it." Of course I won't miss that! ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP But, isn't Joni referring to MichelAngelo Buonarroti who painted the Sistine Chapel in the early 16th century, and who would go into these creative frenzies, once he started a project, and not MichelAngelo Antonioni, the film director who just recently died? If it is the latter MichelAngelo, well, I've had he wrong picture all along. Thanks! jean PS: I wish I could have seen Michelangelo the painter in full speed action. Unbelievably breathtaking beauty! Randy Remote 2 magnificent directors died yesterday... Ahughes.net> wrote: From: "anon anon" ntonioni was my favorite > director... I just love "L'avventura","L'eclisse", and "blow up"... how > strange that they should both die on the same day... I'm happy that they > both lived long lives... And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... "Bergman's nordic blues" "these are the clouds of Michelangelo" - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:11:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP Sure...I assumed that's why Michael added the "sort of" in his note. Bob NP: The Arcade Fire, "Intervention" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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This is the only list I've seen where *"it's too cosmic to be cryptic and too cryptic to be cosmic," puzzles we play with. It keeps us alert. I like that. I hope all who read here don't shy away from expressing themselves or asking questions. I got that *quote from one of the reviews written behind one of spacey Kinky Friedman's well-written mystery novels, 'The Love Song Of J.Edgar Hoover." ..and it truly should be, 'The Hypocritical Hate Song Of J. Edgar Hoover'.. So, you see, it's the same concept, if you know what I mean with all of these tongue in cheek puzzle pieces! Jeannie NP: Tom Waits: ~Beautiful Maladies~ :~} Truly some hard core lyrics and melodies. Waits is some sort of creative genius like Michelangelo B. I need to see a Michelangelo A. film. May he sleep in peace. Thanks, Bob, for everything you do to help me and everybody here! j Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Sure...I assumed that's why Michael added the "sort of" in his note. 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Games. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:27:27 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >From: "Randy Remote" >Reply-To: "Randy Remote" >To: "anon anon" , >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:07:51 -0700 >And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... >"Bergman's nordic blues" >"these are the clouds of Michelangelo" there was an Antonioni movie called "beyond the clouds", which I haven't seen, but it came out about 5 years after the Joni lyrics... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:58:00 +0100 From: clive sax Subject: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert Hi all, Long time no post. I wanted to put a request out for a favour. Does anyone have a copy (video or DVD) of the 2000 Joni tribute concert with KD lang, Cyndi Lauper and James Taylor et al at the Hammerstein ballroom that they would be happy to copy for me. If so contacting me off list would be fine and I would be eternally grateful. Many thanks Clive _________________________________________________________________ 100s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP whoa! So, Joni may have meant Michelangelo A. So, so interesting. It could be interpreted as both MA and MB. Thanks for the insight, Michael! jeannie anon anon wrote: >From: "Randy Remote" >Reply-To: "Randy Remote" >To: "anon anon" , >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:07:51 -0700 >And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... >"Bergman's nordic blues" >"these are the clouds of Michelangelo" there was an Antonioni movie called "beyond the clouds", which I haven't seen, but it came out about 5 years after the Joni lyrics... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com - --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:32:17 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >From: jeannie >Reply-To: jeannie >To: anon anon , Joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) > >whoa! So, Joni may have meant Michelangelo A. > > So, so interesting. It could be interpreted as both MA and MB. > > Thanks for the insight, Michael! > > jeannie > > I don't see how that could be. Joni's lyrics was written in 1977. the M.A. movie was released in 1982... _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:33:45 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: "Cagney and lacey" I bought the Season One DVD recently, and I have to say, that this was an excellent tv show... Even now, 25 years later, it's difficult to find a tv program as high quality as C&L was... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert I need a copy, too, please. Cyndi Lauper blew me away with, 'Carey.' Joni looked so beautiful! I cried when I saw her with her daughter and her pal. Roseanne Arquette has Joni's look. Only, Joni's prettier. They could come off as sisters. They're both so beautiful in a category of their own. The show was spectacular. I was writing on some other musician's website as the show was on and that's when alot of the other man's fans were so kind to me because they knew how much Joni meant to me and they were watching the show along with me and they shared in my happiness. Joni seemed shy like she did at those people's parties. Jeannie clive sax wrote: Hi all, Long time no post. I wanted to put a request out for a favour. Does anyone have a copy (video or DVD) of the 2000 Joni tribute concert with KD lang, Cyndi Lauper and James Taylor et al at the Hammerstein ballroom that they would be happy to copy for me. If so contacting me off list would be fine and I would be eternally grateful. Many thanks Clive _________________________________________________________________ 100s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:54:10 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: native american -- joni -- now workplace conversation More workplace Joni! I love it! I just had a nice visit with one of our graduate students who is fast becoming a close friend. He comes for conversation; I comfort him sometimes. He's in Comparative Literature but he has got a thing that's unique and new with Native American Studies. And guess what! He's a Lakota! So, of course, I shared the lyrics with him. He said "wakan" loosely translates to "holy", in case any of you did not know that. (I did not.) Mother earth Mother Rocks pity me Father sky Father Water Standing in a wakan manner Mother earth Oh pity me In a wakan manner, I teach him about Joni, and he teaches me about Native Americans. It's a rich exchange, seems to me. I know no one's going to show me everything, but he showed me a lot in just half an hour. He said the that http://www.indianz.com/ is a good and reliable website to jump off from to other links and stuff. And THEN (oh, I am having to stifle myself, I'm giggling somethin' awful) he recommended a book, "Roofwalker" by Susan Power, about the Native American experience in Chicago. He said the author used to go the American Indian Center (?) there where she got beat up by you won't believe this, Bobble-head Bob HILLBILLYS! Bwaaaa haaa haaa! I think I'm going right out of my head days with all this Joni dizzy-dancing euphoria and JMDL synchronicity (Indians and hillbillys?). Theo then went on tell me that he is half Lakota from his dad and HALF HILLBILLY from his mom who is 1/2 Eastern Cherokee (Louise!) from Blount County, TN. Hey, honey, you got lots of cash, bring us out a bottle and we'll have some laughs! MoonSHINE's what I'm drinking...... Love, Patti P. "Treat the Earth well, it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your Children. We don't inherit the Earth from our Ancestors We borrow it from our Children." (Proverb posted UConn's Native American Cultural Society Office website) I know you will like that one, Earth Mother Marianne! ; ) Put away that DDT now. Marianne wrote: I heard a native american woman being interviewed the other day on the radio. . and her voice reminded me of Joni in some way. the way the words are pronounced I guess this strikes me because I seem to hold native americans with highest esteem. . I often wish /dream that I have native blood. . . but maybe I am only native in my heart. . native americans and their reverence for the earth, animals, the sky, water, air, fire. . every bit of life. . the rocks the soil seven generations. . etc. land preservation reverence spirit that's all where it's all at. . and joni. . this is what joni seems to be about. . so when I hear joni's voice lately I seem to hear the native voice. "let the wind carry me. . ." bring me closer to all these things it's a spirituality. . etc.). . maybe I will make a list sometime Marianne _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP Oh, okay, now with actual dates, this circle game is just a play with synchronicity. So, Joni did mean MichelAngelo B after all. You think maybe Michelangelo A. could have been referring to both Joni M and Michelangelo B? Or simply, Joni M and Michelangelo A were both only reffering to Michelangelo B because of all of his clouds of the Sistine Chapel's ceiling. :) Jean anon anon wrote: >From: jeannie >Reply-To: jeannie >To: anon anon , Joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) > >whoa! So, Joni may have meant Michelangelo A. > > So, so interesting. It could be interpreted as both MA and MB. > > Thanks for the insight, Michael! > > jeannie > > I don't see how that could be. Joni's lyrics was written in 1977. the M.A. movie was released in 1982... _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:00:39 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert Hey, Clive! I can't find any record of your previous postings. j clive sax wrote: Hi all, Long time no post. I wanted to put a request out for a favour. Many thanks Clive _________________________________________________________________ 100s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html - --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:04:36 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP > Or simply, Joni M and Michelangelo A were both only reffering to >Michelangelo B because of all of his clouds of the Sistine Chapel's >ceiling. > :) > > Jean > c'est possible _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:31:54 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP On Aug 1, 2007, at 3:52 PM, jeannie wrote: > Oh, okay, now with actual dates, this circle game is just a play > with synchronicity. So, Joni did mean MichelAngelo B after all. > > You think maybe Michelangelo A. could have been referring to both > Joni M and Michelangelo B? > > Or simply, Joni M and Michelangelo A were both only reffering to > Michelangelo B because of all of his clouds of the Sistine Chapel's > ceiling. > :) > > Jean It must have been the collective unconscious. I've been working on a new song called "Shine", completely unrelated to Joni's upcoming release. It will be pretty cool if I can just get it done. Sometimes wrapping it up is the hardest part. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:54:18 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Covers #91 You're welcome, Randy - glad you took me up on it and went and snagged it. I'm with you on the Robert Downey Jr. cover - it's a goodie. Just saw him in "Zodiac" and thought he did a real good job, but then he seems to always be solid. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "Candy Store Rock" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 00:50:56 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: JMDL Digest V2007 #290 Bruce, you certainly have been diving deep into the well of passion but I think we could agree upon that we all interpret lyrics against the background of our own experiences, hopes, dreams, fears, memories, moods, emotions, knowledge, past and present. In other words, the lyrics have the meaning we each give them and none of us are right or wrong. That's the beauty of a good poem, isn't it? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Bruce Eggleston Skickat: den 31 juli 2007 08:24 Till: joni@smoe.org Kopia: DONALD SHEARER Dmne: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #290 I beg to differ with both points of view on the line "I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet". This is my signature line from my signature song from my favorite Joni album, so I have spent much time contemplating this wonderful metaphor. I see this as the height of passion, where no thought or substance is greater than her feelings for the object of her desire. She laughs off the strong intoxicants because her love and raw desire are much stronger, and she is able to persist in her passion, to still be on her feet. This is the essence of aggressive determined passion. The key to this interpretation is the lines, "I drew a map of Canada, Oh, Canada, And your face sketched on it twice." In that moment of loneliness she calls out to her innermost roots, Oh, Canada, in an epiphany of longing and sorrow for the way things were and the way they might have been. In the center of that passionate outburst for home and sanctuary, your (his) face was sketched on it twice. In the vortex of the duality of loss and passion, of home and loneliness, she recites the litaney, "You are in my blood like holy wine Oh, and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet Oh I could drink a case of you I could drink a case of you, darling And I would still be on my feet Oh, I'd still be on my feet." This is the divine passion, beyond the mundane, beyond ideomatic logic, pure Joni. Then she turns to the threnody, [ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek thrDnEidia, from thrDnos bwailingb + EidD bsong.b] "Oh, I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints. I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid." The passion and outpouring has passed and deep introspection has set in. Joni could have ended the song there, but she divines this coda, a visit from the saintly Mother, "I met a woman, she had a mouth like yours". The Mother causes passion to well up again, but this time around she says, "You're my holy wine", moving form the metaphor to the fact. Bonneville Bruce A Case of You Just before our love got lost you said I am as constant as a northern star And I said, constant in the darkness Wheres that at? If you want me I'll be in the bar. On the back of a cartoon coaster In the blue tv screen light, I drew a map of Canada, Oh, Canada, And your face sketched on it twice. Oh, you are in my blood like holy wine Oh, and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet Oh I could drink a case of you I could drink a case of you, darling And I would still be on my feet Oh, I'd still be on my feet. Oh, I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints. I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid. I remember that time that you told me, you said, Love is touching souls, Surely you touched mine Cause part of you pours out of me In these lines from time to time. Oh you are in my blood like holy wine, And you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet Oh I could drink a case of you, I could drink a case of you darl,ing Still I'd be on my feet, And still be on my feet. I met a woman, She had a mouth like yours She knew your life She knew your devils and your deeds And she said, Color go to him, stay with him if you can, Oh but be prepared to bleed, Oh, but you are in my blood you're my holy wine Oh, and you taste so bitter, bitter, and so sweet Oh, I could drink a case of you darling, Still I'd be on my feet, I'd still be on my feet. On Jul 30, 2007, at 1:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:55:12 +0200 > From: "Marion Leffler" > Subject: A case of you > > Hi all, > > Kevin wrote: > > > > "As I was on a roll I remembered that anther posting said they > could not > > understand the line from "Case of You" - why would you want to > drink a case > of > > you but still be on my feet". I see this as Joni's way of putting > someone > down > > bigtime. This shows that Joni can be ruthless: "constantly in the > > darkness...where's that at?...if you want me I'll be in the bar"; > the image > of being > > two-faced (bitter and sweet/ darkness and light). In contrast to > Strange > Boy" > > where love is the strongest poison and medicine of all the "love" that > exists > > between her and her lover is now as strong as diet coke!" > > > > I beg to differ, Kevin! I think that what she means is that > although he is > "in her blood like holy wine" she will get over him and "still be > on her > feet". That's not putting somebody down as much as encouraging > oneself to > move on. > > > > Marion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E - --- Suze Cameron wrote: > 57 things to do each day while waiting for SHINE > > August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping is really a > sport OK, I give up. What is reuben tipping? Or should it be who is Reuben Tipping? If it has anything to do with American politics, or anything to do with baseball or football, no need to answer. P.S. I'm guessing you kind of like "Gratitude." Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:46:53 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: SJC (LONG) Racism, but also (Starbucks) both sides now... This weekend I attended on of the concerts in beautiful Arendal and the Canal Street Blues and Jazz festival (yes, I know they have an image problem, they want to grasp the whole of it.) Last saturday Lauryn Hill held a consert ,I wasn4t there but heard from inside staff that it wasn4t a great concert. Than again I love Lauryn Hills music, especially the songs of MTV unplugged 2.0 I was therefore sadened to hear that she would only have black guards. Imagine a white artist like Madonna or Joni saying that they only wanted white guards. That would have been in the front pages: under racism. Unfortunately Lauryn gets away with it. Now I know that black have a long history of racism behind them, and I can see why Lauryn here in some way here seem to want to give it back to white, but is this the way to go? Even though this is racism the other way around if what has been ususal in the western world, it still is racism. And it makes me sad that a great artist like Lauryn Hill judge her fellow human beings on behalf of the color of their skin. The organizers in Arendal was just happy that they had two black people (remember were in south of Norway, and the black population isnt too big here) in the staff to please Lauryn4s needs, but it just makes me wear very heavy boots, indeed. I had hoped that we now had come a bit further. But I just guess that all of us, each and one of us just have to go inside ourselfes and fight racism, sexism or whatever kind of surpressing when it4s found near us, and when we have the nerve and the energy to do so. Because, I was dreamin, in dreamin - a livng aspect, bright and fair.... In my living aspect a merge between the great music and composer Joni Mitchell and the beautiful, strong and politically moving artist Ani DiFanco would really rock my world. Oh that would be something, so right.... Of course I4m grateful for Joni getting back to music, and Starbucks inspiring her to do so, and me neither have any strong thoughts about Starbucks since I4ve never had one or TEN in my city. But we do have McDonalds here in Norway. Imagine Joni collaborate with them. Would we then have the same forgiving and reconciling tone...? In some respect I must give Owen and others who has raised their voice against Starbucks cooperation some right. Because Joni did really critizise both Geffen and Reprise for turning into multiconglemorats, we,ve all read dozens of interviews quoting that. Than , her sgning up with Starbuck makes me realize that this wasn4t any big time social critiscism raised from the voice of our great Lady of duality , after all this was just the hurted child, Joni, letting out her anger for being dropped, (and who could blame her for that) So what appears to be social critique, was maybe just, well feelings... Hmm. Well, we all have to look from life from both sides, now. And I don4t think Joni has signed up with the devil. But I4m sure she could do better, if she wanted to....So in my dreamin, it would be like our dear Alison Krauss mangement person says - signed up with Ani DiFranco. A modern symbol of female mepowerment - Righeteous babe! Well, I4m starting to be agitating here...How do you stop, how do I stop...Have to ask Joni, i guess And if Starbuck is able of giving joni to the people - of course I4m grateful for that. It4s the only cure. "There ain4t no cure for love", Cohen has told us, but there are some cure for sorrow, and Joni is some main inspiration for me here...So don4t interrupt the sorrow, darn right !!! Oh that energy. Oh that Joni. oh CANADA ! Our lady of duality.... And despite this quite heavy political content - coming from me i wish you all love and peace ! Oddmund, for the time being in Tromsoe, the most exotic city in Norway. Where the sun never sets, and IT still is light 10 to mdnight, norwegian time... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 22:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: joni video on cbc website Doug wrote: Can you post that link again? yes indeedy, it's www.cbc.ca Doug, it's just the main page of the cbc, and there's a small little icon thingity to the right. As Kev said, it's just a wee bit about Joan signing on with Hear Music. and Doug posted: I found this page of audio and video, which I haven't seen before: http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-68-2462/arts_entertainment/joni_mitchell/ yes, I have seen that one and thanks for the repost. It's wonderful! Mags (on digest, so if you dont cc' me on a post, I may not see it ;--) thanks boyz xo - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:53:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E Cat wrote: August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping is really a sport OK, I give up. What is reuben tipping? Or should it be who is Reuben Tipping? My answer: Ruben is the big fellow from American idol (or as I call it Idull) a few years back. This was my lame attempt at making a snide remark about someone's size, which clearly shows that I am sizest. Suze, who likes Grateful and is grateful to hear new Joni. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get all the Hottest Artists on Your Cell Phone - Plus 10 Bonus Tones Today! Find Your New Ringtone at Lycos Mobile. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 23:31:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: [RE]countdown to S H I N E - --- Suze Cameron wrote: > Cat wrote: August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping > is really a > sport > > OK, I give up. What is reuben tipping? Or should it > be > who is Reuben Tipping? > > My answer: Ruben is the big fellow from American > idol (or as I call it > Idull) a few years back. This was my lame attempt at > making a snide > remark about someone's size, which clearly shows > that I am sizest. > Crikey. Like cow tipping. I actually googled "reuben tipping" and got some results (including at least one person named "Reuben Tipping") but none of them made sense. I thought it might be some weird kind of Michigan or Wisconsin urban slang. I'm a bit disappointed in you, though. I was hoping it was going to be something dirty. ;-) Catherine ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #232 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)