From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #211 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, July 17 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 211 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! nj [missblux@googlemail.com] [none] ["Marion Leffler" ] Catching Up [AsharaJM@aol.com] RE: ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: ["Randy Remote" ] joni fans in unlikely places [Deb Messling ] Re: ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: joni fans in unlikely places [Motitan@aol.com] Joni stamps [Kate Johnson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:51 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! nj You are right, Jeannie, the photos complement that picture. You can also read the story of their love between the lines...or behind the photos or whatever. It must be hard to think back. IBene On 7/15/07, jeannie wrote: > Thanks for the links to Jaco Pastorius' place, Bene. > > I enjoyed viewing the family side of Jaco, which I had never seen before. > All I knew of him, really, was by word of mouth, news clippings, and from > this book I bought, of which his mother had some input into it, along with > the author. > > The book and other sources usually paint him as the tradegian: a hard time, > hard living, hard core, as well as an intense, innovative, intelligent and > extremely gifted musician, as well, and sadly, about the disastrous case of > Jaco's death. > > > If you go to his site, click on and there you will see a letter > written to his two little sons, 21 years ago, nearly to the date, and most > probably written on a sunny Sunday, too, which shows the tender side of the > man, husband, and father. > > j. > > > > missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi Jerry! > > I went to Ingrid's website (at first your message confused me because > I did not know his wife's name was Ingrid!), there is an interview > where someone says Jahco.... But let's see what she says! Yaco is my > invention I'm sure, it's like the many years I couldn't find CDs by > Louis Jordan because I had changed his name to Gordon... > > I found two pics of Joni on his site: > http://jacop.net/joniherbie.html > http://jacop.net/joni_jaco.html > > Best > > Bene > > > On 7/13/07, Jerry Notaro wrote: > > I've written to Ingrid and asked for the correct pronunciation. She is > very > > good about responding to correspondence. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Mark, > > > > > > I thought I had heard Joni saying Yako in some interview, and that it > > > had to do with his Finnish roots. But I wonder now if in fact she said > > > "Jahco", and I added the rest, just because I noticed it doesn't rhyme > > > with wacko.... I guess you are right! > > > > > > Benedicte > > > > > > On 7/12/07, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > > >> Bene, I have been pronouncing it, "Jacko". The J is hard in English > > >> and, since he was raised in the USA, I assumed it to be pronounced that > > >> way. > > >> > > >> One area where Americans differ from Australians is on vowels. > > >> Americans use long vowel sounds. Australians defer to the short vowel > > >> sound usually. Therefore, "Jacko". Americans may pronounce it "Jahco". > > >> Can the Americans confirm this? > > >> > > >> Mark in Sydney > > >> > > >> NP Morphing Thru Time - Enigma > > > > ________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:28:33 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: [none] Hi, listened to FTR this sunny Monday afternoon and was wondering (once again) about the following lyrics from See you sometime: .I'm not ready to change my name again but you know I'm not after a piece of your fortune and your fame etc What puzzles me is the word "but". If the first line means "I'm not ready to get married again yet" - which I have always assumed - then the "but" doesn't make much sense. "And" what feel more logical to me. On the other hand, Joni always makes sense so there is probably something to it that I haven't grasped. Any thoughts would be helpful and appreciated, as always. Hope you all have a good day, Marion in Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:20:27 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Catching Up Hi everyone! Another flash from the past here. I am embarrassed to say this, but I've hardly been reading the list for ages because I've been on the road constantly these days, and have had very little time. However, I'm now in Salt Lake City, hanging with our dear Alison E. for the second time in just a few month's, and she started talking about Joni's new CD coming our in the fall!!! ACK!!! I had NO IDEA because I've been so out of the loop! So, I logged on and read a few digests, and I will be much more in the loop in the future. It's SO great to see Colin and Jimmy's names here as well as the usual suspects. For those of you who like to plan early, Jonifest 2008 at Full Moon will be April (3) 4-7. No signups, or information yet, but go ahead and pencil it into your calendar for next year, and start putting pennies aside. (You know you want to!!) :-) Hugs, Ashara ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:44:37 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: as witnessed...or proof....syntax is a little off.. but if I were interested in your fortune and fame...then I would do it that way..marriage...change my name... Bree >Hi, > >listened to FTR this sunny Monday afternoon and was wondering (once again) >about the following lyrics from See you sometime: > > > >.I'm not ready to change my name again > > but you know I'm not after a piece of your fortune and your fame etc > > > >What puzzles me is the word "but". If the first line means "I'm not ready >to >get married again yet" - which I have always assumed - then the "but" >doesn't make much sense. "And" what feel more logical to me. On the other >hand, Joni always makes sense so there is probably something to it that I >haven't grasped. > > > >Any thoughts would be helpful and appreciated, as always. > > > >Hope you all have a good day, > >Marion in Sweden _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:40:27 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: I agree that 'and' would make more sense. All I can come up with is 1) it's a non-sequitor, like when you start your sentence with 'but you know...' 2) 'and' sounds too much like a rant..'and furthermore' 3) 'but' just sounded better to the ear, making it a more percussive little run ....but you know, there may be more RR From: "Marion Leffler" > listened to FTR this sunny Monday afternoon and was wondering (once again) > about the following lyrics from See you sometime: > .I'm not ready to change my name again > > but you know I'm not after a piece of your fortune and your fame etc > > What puzzles me is the word "but". If the first line means "I'm not ready > to > get married again yet" - which I have always assumed - then the "but" > doesn't make much sense. "And" what feel more logical to me. On the other > hand, Joni always makes sense so there is probably something to it that I > haven't grasped. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:21:57 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: joni fans in unlikely places I have a friend who works in the maintenance department of the city park. She called me today, all excited, because she found out that one of her co-workers is a huge Joni Mitchell fan. He's a retired guy who's working in the park for the fun of it, basically. And his favorite album is THOSL. Now *that's* a fan! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:07:07 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: hmmm nice one to pick up on... I think it makes it more conversational, like they are in mid-argument or something... I think an 'and' would make it literary whereas the 'but' makes it informal. You can never tell if this is just verbatim or is it deliberate? With Joni, I guess you have to assume deliberate but you never know... it maybe the song that she hadn't quite finished when they booked the studio to record the album or something (massive conjecture here) and she just had a bunch of chord changes and some jottings on a piece of paper that she stuck together from all that was going through her head the night before so it was a last minute addition. Or something.... lol much Joni Jamie Zoob On 17/07/07, Randy Remote wrote: > I agree that 'and' would make more sense. All I can come > up with is > 1) it's a non-sequitor, like when you start your sentence > with 'but you know...' > 2) 'and' sounds too much like a rant..'and furthermore' > 3) 'but' just sounded better to the ear, making it a more > percussive little run > ....but you know, there may be more > RR > > From: "Marion Leffler" > > listened to FTR this sunny Monday afternoon and was wondering (once again) > > about the following lyrics from See you sometime: > > > .I'm not ready to change my name again > > > > but you know I'm not after a piece of your fortune and your fame etc > > > > What puzzles me is the word "but". If the first line means "I'm not ready > > to > > get married again yet" - which I have always assumed - then the "but" > > doesn't make much sense. "And" what feel more logical to me. On the other > > hand, Joni always makes sense so there is probably something to it that I > > haven't grasped. > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:30:19 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: joni fans in unlikely places In a message dated 7/16/2007 9:08:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dlmessling@rcn.com writes: She called me today, all excited, because she found out that one of her co-workers is a huge Joni Mitchell fan. He's a retired guy who's working in the park for the fun of it, basically. And his favorite album is THOSL. Now *that's* a fan! - ------------------------------ Ah, very nice. It's always nice to discover more Joni fans...in unlikely places. I dream of the day when I bump into someone when I'm out (I like talking with new people) who is a Joni fan.....if only... - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:16:39 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Joni stamps Did everybody get the commemorative stamps they wanted? Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #211 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)