From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #182 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 18 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 182 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: This is a rant about Rousseau, Joni, O'keefe and erotic imagery [Mark] Joni and The Wall ["Michel BYRNE" ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 15 Disc 2 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] VLJC Article [Motitan@aol.com] Joni word of the day [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni and The Wall [Motitan@aol.com] Re: vagina fad [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too [Motitan@aol.com] Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too [Victor Johnson ] SJC (tiny, though...) Mostly Norwegian music ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] 5 albums that changed my life ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: SJC (tiny, though...) Mostly Norwegian music [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:42:51 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: This is a rant about Rousseau, Joni, O'keefe and erotic imagery >And some people seem to have a harder time accepting apologies, which in my opinion is just as important. It puzzles me why anyone would insist on being offended, even after apologies have been given and it has been made clear there was no intent to offend. At that point, they're just being stubborn but if someone wants to hold a grudge, it's their life. Kind of silly, especially if its over something that was so trivial. Victor< e-mail is free so, I can carry this on for as long as necessary even though this has no Joni content. If stubbornness is the issue, the term, "it takes two to tango" comes to mind. Talking about White Supremacists might be "trivial" or funny to me but may be offensive to others. It's a matter of perspective. A point I've tried to make before. I'm sure I would remember an apology if it was sincere. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:50:33 +0000 From: "Michel BYRNE" Subject: Joni and The Wall For William W's info - and any others! You'll find Joni singing 'Goodbye Blue Sky' (Pink Floyd's THe Wall, live in Berlin) on Youtube. Floyd fand seem to hate it, judging from the comments, but I loved the song (never heard the original) and totally loved J's soulful vocal. There's also a lovely version of Night Ride Home, Joni sitting outside in a sunny garden (in Saskatchewan?..) singing to (I presume) an interviewer. Check it out before they remove it! _________________________________________________________________ Win tickets to the sold out Live Earth concert! http://liveearth.uk.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:53:13 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 15 Disc 2 Thanks again Bob for another fascinating collection. I was particularly interested in the Australian band, Frente's cover of Blue. They had a big hit in this country in the early 90s called, Accidentally Kelly Street but were never really heard from again apart from a surprise hit with an a capella cover of the New Order song, Bizarre Love Triangle. Blue is not an easy song to sing but the child like vocals of the lead singer seems to pull it off. I also love UK singer, Caroline Lavelle's cover of ACOY. It was the first Joni cover I ever heard but was unaware of these remixes. I always look forward to these volumes. We are very privileged. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:36:50 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: A Case of You, and a wedding too I was playing a wedding gig last night, at the Bona Allen Mansion in Bufurd, and had the wonderful opportunity to play and sing "A Case of You" for the first dance. It was kind of an odd setup...I was playing in the grand room though she (the wedding coordinator) had me set up around the corner, kind of behind the edge of a wall that hung out, so I really did not have any view of the room...I was able to see just the edge. So when it came time to play "A Case of You, I couldn't even see the bride and groom dancing! But I thought it went really well...it was a fun song to sing as the words are so passionate. The bride told me when they first met, the groom had made her a mix tape of Joni Mitchell which is why they chose that particular song. She said she likes the Diana Krall version the best though he likes the Joni version the most. When my friend, a trumpet player, first mentioned this gig to me a month or so ago, I practically jumped at the opportunity. I love playing regardless, but getting to sing "A Case of You" made it even more enjoyable. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:35:19 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: VLJC Article This is an article written by Pete Townshend's daughter talking about not just her life with her Dad, but a little bit on Woodstock, and a great deal about music. There are a couple mentions of Joni in the article as well as a whole load of other people (Sufjan Stevens, Prince, Radiohead, Stephen Sondheim, Charles Mingus, etc.) Have a look if you like: _http://arts.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2653172.ece_ (http://arts.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2653172.ece) - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:31:47 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Joni word of the day fey ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:10:54 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and The Wall I like Joni's performance of the song. I own the Wall (big Floyd and Roger Waters fan) and would easily say she's probably the best performer of all the guest performers. I originally got that concert for Mr. Waters but found even more delight in it recently with my awareness and growing fondness of Joni. Though, I could understand, some Pink Floyd fans not liking it. They are awfully picky, that bunch. I think Joni does a fine, fine job but some of the other performers annoy the hell out of me. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:54:09 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: vagina fad Mark wrote: > She may well have sung to her vagina at some time. It was a bit of a fad > for a > while. > death and birth and death and birth I'm going to lay down some place shady, with dreamland coming on When I get that crazy feeling, I know I'm in trouble again Come in from the cold You're a push button window!" says Rowdy Yates With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swinging hot spot You turn me on I'm a radio I am a pretty good cook, sitting on my groceries, come up to my kitchen... She does the winter shoveling; he does the winter shoveling; they do the winter shoveling You're a coward against the flesh - coward - caught between yes and no, Reckless this time on the line for yes, yes, yes! Restless sweeps like fire and rain, Over virgin wilderness... behind my bolt locked door There are box cars down there on your snake. (LOL) It was plane to train my friend, It was just plane shadow to train shadow, But to me it was skin to skin Snakes in the grass and the list could go on and on... Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:01:20 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too In a message dated 6/17/2007 10:43:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, waytoblue@comcast.net writes: The bride told me when they first met, the groom had made her a mix tape of Joni Mitchell which is why they chose that particular song. - ---------------------------------------- Aww, that's so sweet. Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself as well! A Case Of You is such a beautiful song. Will you continue performing this song then elsewhere? - -Monika "The more one suffers, the more one helps. The purer the suffering, the greater is the gain." - -Mohandas Gandhi ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:38:32 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too On Jun 17, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/17/2007 10:43:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > waytoblue@comcast.net writes: > The bride told me when they first met, the > groom had made her a mix tape of Joni Mitchell which is why they > chose that particular song. > ---------------------------------------- > Aww, that's so sweet. Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself as > well! A Case Of You is such a beautiful song. Will you continue > performing this song then elsewhere? > -Monika > "The more one suffers, the more one helps. The purer the suffering, > the greater is the gain." > -Mohandas Gandhi > I hadn't thought about it but, hey, why not? Speaking of performing elsewhere, I've really got to get on the ball and line something up. Adding a little Joni to the repertoire never hurt...:) "A Case of You" seems to be a song that resonates with a lot of people, kind of like "River." Speaking of covers, afterwards, I went to see some friends play at a local tavern. Their band is called Deep Blue Sun and they are so much fun to see live. They do many originals but also throw in cool covers. Last night they played Led Zeppelin "Standing in the Rain" which totally smoked. They had three dummers, two trap kits and one Latin percussion, plus a really good bass player on a 5 string bass and keys, plus a couple of guitars. In their first set, which I missed, I heard they played "Help on the Way/Slipknot" by the Dead which if you're not familiar with is not an easy piece to pull off. Their music is great to dance to....a blend of rock, funk, a little rockabilly....more than anything else, they are really tight which really makes a difference. The Atlanta music scene is not what it used to be, compared to the eighties and early nineties but I'm glad there are a few bands around that still rock. While I'm writing this, my cat Jessica, a brown tabby, is sitting in my lap. If I try to put her on the ground, she hops back up. It's like I can't keep her out of my lap. That's what I love about cats....they are so sweet. Joni, the orange tabby, is in the other room, napping. I don't think she's too pleased that I have sports radio on at the moment. When my friend Amy looks after my cats, she says they watch "Grease" and other stuff like that. Amy went to Bonnaroo this weekend so I look forward to getting a good review when she comes back. Victor NP: The John Kincaid show/ESPN radio PS. I was glad to hear that Mike Nyfong, the D.A. in Raleigh who tried to destroy the lives of the Duke Lacrosse players this weekend was disbarred in Carolina. There is some justice on this earth after all. I mean how evil is that, to seek to destroy someone else's life, just for your own personal gain. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too Lol! So ... do these two have absolutely no understanding of the words? This reminds of Sting and the shock he felt when he heard "Every Breath You Take" was being played at weddings. Michael Flaherty Just before our love got lost you said "I am as constant as a northern star" And I said "Constantly in the darkness Where's that at? If you want me I'll be in the bar" Oh, you're in my blood like holy wine You taste so bitter and so sweet She knew your devils and your deeds And she said "Go to him, stay with him if you can But be prepared to bleed" - --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:09:58 -0400 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: vagina fad Never occured to me! Still doesn't. I guess some things are simply in the Eye of the Beholder! But then, that is what Art is all about. /Robban - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of LCStanley7@aol.com Sent: den 17 juni 2007 11:54 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: vagina fad death and birth and death and birth I'm going to lay down some place shady, with dreamland coming on When I get that crazy feeling, I know I'm in trouble again Come in from the cold You're a push button window!" says Rowdy Yates With a pink hotel, a boutique, and a swinging hot spot You turn me on I'm a radio I am a pretty good cook, sitting on my groceries, come up to my kitchen... She does the winter shoveling; he does the winter shoveling; they do the winter shoveling You're a coward against the flesh - coward - caught between yes and no, Reckless this time on the line for yes, yes, yes! Restless sweeps like fire and rain, Over virgin wilderness... behind my bolt locked door There are box cars down there on your snake. (LOL) It was plane to train my friend, It was just plane shadow to train shadow, But to me it was skin to skin Snakes in the grass and the list could go on and on... Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:09:41 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: SJC (tiny, though...) Mostly Norwegian music I have to add some music for you dear fellow-listers. Just recently being aware of the serch opportunity in myspace, I found one of my new favorites there. (Many thanks to the links that some of you have sent me here, the librarian (I know this is embarrassing) finally found out that it's possible to search for all kind of music... To my defence, I'm finnaly connecting to internet from my home pc, I can't dive into all the music I like while on work...) Siri Gjfre is a norwegian, some would call her Jazz singer, I don't know. Listenig to her latesy album "Survival kit" I would rathercall her life-singer (but I guess this may sound a bit pathetic), like Joni it's not easy to put her into a fixed box. I know she and her musican friends admire Jonis music. And for me it's easy to trace this admiration, even though no single track or her voice quality in any way quite resembles Joni, it's just the feeling, the flow, the taste. All of it. She is real. I like the thought about music being a survival kit. I think it has been that for me. In times that I've been really depressed music - albums - songs - or a single voice have been a great comfort for me. Last winter I had a period like that, and found grat comfort in both Joni's "Taming the tiger" as well as our own Sherelle Smith's "Do what you love" I think music can change your life, and in fact, music can make you live life. I guess some of you find this strong or offending, but it's true for me... I think of Joni, wnhen she worte A case of you. Such strong content. In an utterly elegant way she just puts it all in those two lines 'Cause part of you pours out of me In these lines from time to time... For me those lines has always been especially storng, but the whole song is so full of content, that my cuppeth runneth over... Well back to my thread, in popoular music today, well in norwegian popular music, we have the same issues like you have. Much music is just surface, and no content. When I listen to Siri Gjfres voice and her music, than I feel that she share some of her message to me, to all of humanity (parodon my strong word, this is definately a bit pathetic...) oh well, that just gives me hope, and hope is something I like to cherish and embrase, whenever found, especially when found in popular music. Norway has been blessed with several gifted Jazz-singers. Radka Toneff stands for many of us as some sort of queen, but new vopices like Solveig Slettahjell, Sirig Gjaere and Live Maria Roggen are also amazing. As well as the experimental and ever changing Sidsel Endresen, she is an experience...Well, we could talk about Martha We could talk about landscapes...And I guess I just could go on and on talking about norwegian music, but I won't, 'cause I guess you other things to put your mind into. And I don't want to cause any "Boring ! The old man is snoring" situation here...:-) But before I go I wil leave you with to links wort to check out: Siri Gjaere: * * http://www.myspace.com/sirigjaere Both songs here stands out, also on the grat album Survival kit. And since this is the JoniMitchellDiscussionList, and even though this is Mr. Bob Mueller's domain, I want to share the coolest Woodstock cover I know, by the band Tuba, consisting of Live Maria Roggen and her partner. Mr.Mueller has of course already added this to his great cover base, and I'm sure he can inform us in wich compilation it may be found, but for newbees or the corius ones, pleas check i out : *TUBA DUO:* http://www.myspace.com/tubaduo And song two "Woodstock" That's all for now, and I know this was long. So thansk for reading all the way to here !!! Best Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:49:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too I thought the same thing, Michael - I was in disbelief that someone would pick this breakup song for a kickoff to their wedding. Better buckle your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Reminds me of all the times people would request "The One I Love" by REM and dedicate it to boy/girlfriends. On the other hand, if ignorance is bliss, they are starting their lives together quite blissfully. Bob NP: America, "Sandman" - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:38:17 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: 5 albums that changed my life Bree chose: Peer Gynt Suites: Edvard Grieg I'm with you on that one Bree, was addicted to it in my early teens Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: SJC (tiny, though...) Mostly Norwegian music Hi Oddmund, Thanks for the links - Siri sounds a lot like Sheryl Crow, both in style and vocal quality. Don't mean that as a dis since I like Sheryl. I love that cover of Woodstock - just tuba & voice - very creative. Woodstock has more than any other Joni song (including the franchise) opened itself up to a wide variety of treatments. And if you ever want to know what volume a Joni cover appears on, just click on the little blue square to the left of the title and it will give you additional information about it. Bob NP: Feist, "The Water" (one of the most beautiful, haunting songs I've heard this year) - --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:12:39 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: A Case of You, and a wedding too On Jun 17, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > the words?> > > I thought the same thing, Michael - I was in disbelief that > someone would pick this breakup song for a kickoff to their > wedding. Better buckle your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Now that you mention it, that is kind of funny... Then there was the man who walked by and said, "Do you know any Lynyrd Skynyrd? Play Freebird, that will liven up this party." I knew then that I was definitely in Buford, Georgia! Victor NP: ESPN Sunday night baseball with Jon Miller and Joe Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:40:56 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni referenced So my eye-rolling non-Joni fan friend sends me the following email today: Deb, Joni Mitchell is referenced in National Wildlife's Reader's View on p. 8. At the expense of commercial success, Mitchell discussed environmental issues in her songs. "We've got to get ourselves back to the garden." I find it amusing that my eye-rolling friends start noticing Joni references in spite of themselves. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #182 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)