From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #176 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, June 12 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 176 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Live Earth [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Some Stormy Weather for ya [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Hissing lawns [Moni Kellermann ] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #226 [Peep Richman ] Fwd: about your thoughts [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Possible Joni reference in book title [Kerry ] Last Sopranos (spoiler) sort of a little jc ["Randy Remote" ] Stormy Weather Joni [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:00:17 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Live Earth Hello Joniphiles. Last month there was a news story here about a pretty ambitious world-wide project happening in July. Live Earth is supposed to be like Live Aid with simultaneous concerts around the world with a video hook up. This time for environmental awareness. Australia's contribution is a concert at Sydney Olympic Stadium with performers, Wolfmother, Missy Higgins, Eskimo Joe, Sneaky Sound System, Paul Kelly, (a reformed) Crowded House, Jack Johnson and Toni Collette with her band, The Finish. I haven't seen any further publicity for it and I was wondering if this thing is being publicised anywhere else? I was thinking that this something Joni would fit perfectly into. It would be just like her to show up at something like this and not publicise it. I loved Live Aid and even donated money to it at the time. I would love to see more of this kind of thing - a world-wide music festival to motivate people everywhere to act on a common cause. To help even out the wealth of the world and support the less fortunate nations or help clean up the planet. I understand that it is an enormous undertaking to coordinate shows in so many places and it can't be achieved very often but the power it can generate is worth it. I don't understand why Live Earth hasn't generated more publicity. I'm not sure if they are asking for donations and to what. Maybe it's just to promote awareness to environmental causes and climate change. I hope it will be broadcast on TV and I hope it will be global. They said it would. Live Aid was dominated by the simultaneous concerts in London and Philadelphia and Australia's contribution was minor and probably missed by most of the world but from this side, it was pretty exciting to part of it. I remember the performance of INXS on that one. Could this be the avenue for the world-wide release of Joni's album? Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:38:13 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Some Stormy Weather for ya Wow! Bob, what a treat. I love this stuff. I was surprised like most people when Joni released the album, BSN but, as I've said before, that album helped me to appreciate the classic jazz songs she performs and inspired me to seek out more. I'm now a fan of this style of music where I never was before. Thanks so much for this, Bob. Thanks to Joseph too for bringing this album into the spotlight here and giving such a great review to preview it. Mark in Sydney NP Good Guy - Trisha Yearwood ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:46:17 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Hissing lawns When I was visiting a friend in the countryside, she was watering her big garden with a sprinkler and when I heard the sound it made I thought "Hey, the Hissing Of Summer Lawns!". I put my fave pic up on my MySpace page, so I wanted to share this with you. http://www.myspace.com/kellerfrau Greetings from Krautland, moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #226 Hi and a Good Monday Mornin' To Ya!!!! This will be a fabulous week.......feel it in my bones. Bob...about Joni's tour? You said "nope" and I say "hope". How are you, Mark???????? Oh...four Poodles are singing their "get me out (again) song...got to go...love to all. Bo - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:10:38 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Fwd: about your thoughts ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Return-path: From: Dflahm@aol.com Full-name: Dflahm Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:09:07 EDT Subject: about your thoughts To: ginosar@2xtreme.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain You wrote: "A weak government is dangerous: it may feel a need to over act, or under act militarily to satisfy internal political pressure. A strong government is also better able to face external political pressure; as anti Israeli attitude around the world is continuous and powerful." What is "strength" in a government and how is that strength maintained? You also wrote: "The values of the Western world based on equality, human rights, freedom of religion and tolerance, live and let live attitude, is basically foreign to the Arab world." I believe that the best we can say is that these are ideals for which a significant number of people struggle. I also believe, sadly, that there is much in Western culture that pushes back against the attaining of those ideals. DAVID LAHM ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:51:02 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Ah...how interesting! It's funny that your highlighted color in the word "colors" is pretty close to what I actually see. E and E flat chords are varying shades of purple. However, with Joni's music, things get a little crazy because she uses chord combinations that take a synesthete like me from zero to mach 1 in sixty seconds or less! Except for those first two beginning chords, the rest of the song is in a minor key of some sort like b flat minor which is a predomintanly dark color like brown and olive green interspersed. Listening to Joni is like looking through a kaleidescope. She's just so unique musically. "The Jungle Line" is like eating chocolate, rich and good. ( Side note: I don't talk about my own musical colors because it confuses the heck out of another synesthete who might be reading or listening. Each one of us are set in our own ways with music/color combinations from birth) I too am pretty sure she is referring to Henri Rousseau in this song. If you look at some of his jungle paintings, you can't help but make the connection. I did a little research after I first posted and found out that he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname which I can't recall right now. Bob wrote: > > > > But what I want to know is - what colors do you see when you hear this >one, Sherrelle? I can only imagine whats conjured. > > I was always under the impression (a little art pun there) that Henri >Rousseau was the painter she was singing about but I'm open to being >corrected on that. > > Bob > > NP: Soundgarden, "Limo Wreck" > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of >spyware protection. _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:01:47 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Wow! I'm so glad someone else loves this song like I do! (listening to it now!) Thanks so much for sharing your story of first hearing "The Jungle Line" I can almost see your first reaction when you put on the headphones at Barnes and Noble! (smile) You are so right about those drums! They are what get me too. It's like something goes through your soul and you have to just move some part of your body! Joni rises to the occassion by matching them with lyrics and melody that makes me feel I'm actually in a jungle peeking and watching for wild animals or whatever else may come around the bend. As I look at Rousseau's paintings of the jungle, it seems that he wants to put you in that frame of mind. I think she captures it perfectly. The song is meant to be a little dark and wary in my opinion. Sherelle Monika wrote: >In a message dated 6/10/2007 4:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: > >I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer >Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the >beginning! > > >-------------------------------------- > I absolutely love this song! It's one of my favorites off the album >and probably one of the greatest songs ever recorded! It seems so very >ahead >of its time thinking about what else was going on musically in 1975. It's >such an experimental track and to me it works! > I still remember hearing a little clip of it the first time and >listening to it in its entirety for the first time. The first time I >heard a clip >was when I was in a Barnes and Nobles. They had a music system there >where you >didn't have to find the album to scan it to listen to but merely had look >it >up. So I did that with THOSL, put the headphones on and remember hearing >that song more than the others due to its nature. And then when I did >actually >buy the album and the cd was changing from track 2 to track 3 I remember >thinking on first listen, "I'm definitely going to listen to that one >again >right away after I'm done with the album," (and that's just what I did >right >after "Shadows and Light"...went right back to track 2...). I was just >fascinated by the song and the sounds of the song. Those drums man! >-Monika > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:01:07 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: The Johnny Cash Show again... I recently bought a 4 episode set of the Johnny Cash show, including the series premiere featuring who else but miss Joni Mitchell, off Ebay. I was mistakenly sent two copies of it and after emailing the seller about this, he told me to just not worry about it and keep them both. That being said, I have no use for the second copy. So if anyone on the list would like the other copy please email me offlist. If somebody else knows how to make copies and wants it that'd be nice too for anyone else who may want it (I don't have a DVD burner nor do I know how to make copies of DVDS). The first episode featuring Joni is excellent (it also features Bob Dylan). She sounds fantastic on her own and it's also a real treat to hear her sing with Johnny Cash. They sound very good together. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:08:33 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Catherine I couldn't agree with you more with your thoughts on Rousseau's flowers, vegetation, and Joni's singing on this song as Rousseau-like. I was actually checking out that same URL yesterday but missed this painting. I actually just wrote something similar to what you said right before I read your post. We are definitely on the same wave length with this! I truly think that the poor "Sleeping Gypsy" is about to be the lion's next meal! The colors and imagery are so wonderful in this painting that I have to have a print of it for my wall one day! Sherelle Catherine wrote: > >That's what I always thought. I see the images that >Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream >images with lush vegetation and something just a bit >ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the >flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check >this one out: >http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm > >and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping >gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of >the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? > > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to >Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:14:56 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Whoa Laura! That is awesome information! I don't play very much guitar but I understand what you are saying for the most part. Great information! Nobody writes lke Joni! Amazing! Love, Sherelle Lady Laura wrote: > > >Sherelle asks: > >in the very beginning of the song when the >"Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she >playing on the guitar. > > >Hi Sherelle, > > In the Joni Mitchell Complete contraband book she has the guitar >tuning >as open A: AAC#EAE (A-12-4-3-5-7). The first chord is like a normal A >chord >finger formation but on the 5th fret covering the top three strings (AAC# >strings) and the pointer put down on the 4th fret fourth string (E string) >to >look like this: > > o 4th fret >ooo >2341 (fingers) > > Then lift the pointer (1) and alternate between lifting and replacing >it >each measure (8 measures total) and then strum an open A on the last beat >of >the 8th measure of introduction. > > The verse begins with barring all the way across on the ninth fret >and >then for the second measure putting two fingers down on the C# and E >strings >on the 11th fret while still holding the bar across the 9th fret (trumpet >paths). > > Hope this makes sense to you and gives you a start. > >Love, >Laura > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:17:57 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... In a message dated 6/11/2007 12:03:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: Joni rises to the occassion by matching them with lyrics and melody that makes me feel I'm actually in a jungle peeking and watching for wild animals or whatever else may come around the bend. As I look at Rousseau's paintings of the jungle, it seems that he wants to put you in that frame of mind. I think she captures it perfectly. The song is meant to be a little dark and wary in my opinion. Sherelle - ------------------------------------------- Oh yes, it is so dark and wary sounding. It's almost a bit ominous as well. I think I may have to check out Rousseau's jungle paintings now. Connect the words to the image--connect the dots perhaps. And you're absolutely right before when you mentioned those two beginning chords. The song changes quite drastically. The very beginning guitar bit almost sounds pretty for a second or two there. And then when Joni comes in to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always think that) but when the synths come in, when the tone changes, when you really get the feel of the drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's not very pretty at all. Even her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but with warning). After listening to this song a few times I remember thinking it was "very pretty singing in a very ugly background." But then after listening to it more I notice Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be "ugly." I wonder if I'm making sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general sense which would mean I don't like the song and find nothing appealing about it. I mean it in a different way. You follow? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed > correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname > which I > can't recall right now. possibly "Douanier Rousseau"..as he was known. He was a customs agent (thats what douanier means). Just more of the useless and worthless knowledge that comes with an art degree. :) Em Stand, don't you know that you are free? well at least in your mind, if you want to be... ...Sly Free your mind and the rest will follow.. ..En Vogue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:17:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I absolutely follow Monika! I get exactly what you are saying and I agree with you 100%. There's a darkness to this song that is necessary to properly express it alongside the drums of Burundi. Please check out Rousseau's pantings, especially his Jungle ones when you get a chance. I found out that through searching yesterday that I missed this exhiibit when it came to D.C. last year! Rats! Now my goal is to see one of Rousseau's paintings up close and personal. I believe that "Sleeping Gypsy" is on display in New York. Sherelle Monika wrote: > > Oh yes, it is so dark and wary sounding. It's almost a bit ominous >as >well. I think I may have to check out Rousseau's jungle paintings now. >Connect the words to the image--connect the dots perhaps. > And you're absolutely right before when you mentioned those two >beginning chords. The song changes quite drastically. The very beginning >guitar bit >almost sounds pretty for a second or two there. And then when Joni comes >in >to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always think that) but when the >synths come in, when the tone changes, when you really get the feel of the >drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's not very pretty at all. >Even >her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but with warning). After >listening to this song a few times I remember thinking it was "very pretty >singing >in a very ugly background." But then after listening to it more I notice >Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be "ugly." I wonder if I'm >making >sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general sense which would mean I >don't like the song and find nothing appealing about it. I mean it in a >different way. You follow? >-Monika > > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:27:30 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... (Mind is freeing as we speak...thank you for those last quotes Em) That's the nickname I saw! In one article I read, they said he never really became a custom agent though he had the nickname. He came from humble beginnings and was actually not very well accepted in the Art society. Perhaps this is one reason why Joni admired him enough to write a song about his art. Wish we could ask her! Sherelle >From: Em >To: Sherelle Smith , scjoniguy@yahoo.com, >joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) > >--- Sherelle Smith wrote: > > he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed > > correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname > > which I > > can't recall right now. > >possibly "Douanier Rousseau"..as he was known. He was a customs agent >(thats what douanier means). >Just more of the useless and worthless knowledge that comes with an art >degree. >:) >Em > >Stand, don't you know that you are free? >well at least in your mind, if you want to be... >...Sly > > Free your >mind and the rest will follow.. >..En Vogue _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:31:35 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Live Earth I think it's been pretty well publicized here in the US- it helps that it is being organized by Al Gore, who, it is still hoped, will try to regain the presidency he won in 2000 by running again next year, and who has been riding the wave of popularity from "An Inconvienient Truth". I've written about it a couple of times here on the list. The specific purpose of the concerts is to raise awareness of climate change. The event happens on 7-7-07 (some esoterics claim 777 is the number of Christ, though I have not yet signed on to the Gore- is-Jesus movement), and will be televised, radioized, and webcast, though details are still pending. I agree it would be a good fit for Joni, considering that Shine will be environmentally themed.. So far she has not been on the list of performers. http://www.liveearth.org/ RR > Hello Joniphiles. > > Last month there was a news story here about a pretty ambitious > world-wide project happening in July. Live Earth is supposed to be like > Live Aid with simultaneous concerts around the world ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > And then when Joni comes in > to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always > think that) but when the > synths come in, when the tone changes, when you > really get the feel of the > drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's > not very pretty at all. Even > her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but > with warning). After > listening to this song a few times I remember > thinking it was "very pretty singing > in a very ugly background." But then after > listening to it more I notice > Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be > "ugly." I wonder if I'm making > sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general > sense which would mean I > don't like the song and find nothing appealing about > it. I mean it in a > different way. You follow? > -Monika > Makes perfect sense to me. I think "ominous" is a good choice of words. Ominous, or sinister. I'm going to have to listen to it when I get home (goofing off at work again!) I can't hear the guitar part in my head. All I can hear is the drums and the synth (that sort of saxophone or maybe low-voiced clarinet sound.) Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:19:58 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... That vine laying there.......left out for a reason...?? OR did he simply think something was needed to even the painting out? A bit amateurish at first glance? >Catherine I couldn't agree with you more with your thoughts on Rousseau's >flowers, vegetation, and Joni's singing on this song as Rousseau-like. I >was actually checking out that same URL yesterday but missed this painting. >I actually just wrote something similar to what you said right before I >read your post. We are definitely on the same wave length with this! > >I truly think that the poor "Sleeping Gypsy" is about to be the lion's next >meal! The colors and imagery are so wonderful in this painting that I have >to have a print of it for my wall one day! > >Sherelle > >Catherine wrote: >> >>That's what I always thought. I see the images that >>Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream >>images with lush vegetation and something just a bit >>ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the >>flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check >>this one out: >>http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm >> >>and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping >>gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of >>the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? >> >> >>Catherine >>Toronto >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to >>Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows >Live Hotmail. >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:23:58 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Just how long are your fingers..Laura? >Whoa Laura! That is awesome information! I don't play very much guitar but >I understand what you are saying for the most part. Great information! >Nobody writes lke Joni! Amazing! > >Love, Sherelle > >Lady Laura wrote: >> >> >>Sherelle asks: >> >>in the very beginning of the song when the >>"Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she >>playing on the guitar. >> >> >>Hi Sherelle, (fingers) >> The verse begins with barring all the way across on the ninth fret >>and >>then for the second measure putting two fingers down on the C# and E >>strings >>on the 11th fret while still holding the bar across the 9th fret (trumpet >>paths). >> >> Hope this makes sense to you and gives you a start. >> >>Love, >>Laura >> >> >> >>************************************** See what's free at >>http://www.aol.com. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Need a break? 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Games. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:45:04 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Hi Bree! I think they were left out for a reason deliberately as a symbolic gesture for something. Though the flowers are neatly arranged in a vase, the vine to me is to remind us that they are still wild and from the jungle.. That's my take anyway. Love, Sherelle Bree wrote: > >That vine laying there.......left out for a reason...?? OR did he >simply think something was needed to even the painting out? A bit >amateurish at first glance? > _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:51:08 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths In a message dated 6/11/07 2:26:47 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Just how long are your fingers..Laura? > In the Z position (contracting the lumbricals), extending the IP joints, begining the measurement at the approximate midpoint of the MP joint, i.e., at the proximal end of the proximal phalanges, to the distal most point of the distal phalanges, left hand fingers only: pointer = 9.5cm middle finger = 10.5cm ring finger = 10.25cm little finger = 8.33cm ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:14:13 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Can you break that down for me? I'm recalling that sci-fi movie now...The Ten Thousand Fingers Of Doctor X... or something like that. Scary!! > > Just how long are your fingers..Laura? >In the Z position (contracting the lumbricals), extending the IP joints, >begining the measurement at the approximate midpoint of the MP joint, i.e., >at the >proximal end of the proximal phalanges, to the distal most point of the >distal phalanges, left hand fingers only: > >pointer = 9.5cm >middle finger = 10.5cm >ring finger = 10.25cm >little finger = 8.33cm > > > > > >************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:42:45 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths In a message dated 6/11/07 3:14:55 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Can you break that down for me? I'm recalling that sci-fi movie > now...The > Ten Thousand Fingers Of Doctor X... or something like that. Scary!! > > No, and I won't scratch your itch either. And, please keep your scary, X-rated doctor-finger movies to yourself. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I am loving this discussion about Jungle Line. I bought this album on release and in those days you didn't really hear snippets of new songs like you do now. So the song was a major shock to almost all those who had heard Joni, and it was hard to imagine that the same person of Ladies of the Canyon could have released such an amazing composition. I loved all of the album -- but a lot of fans, and I mean a lot, deserted Joni... and I think the song Jungle Line was responsible for a lot of that. But as history shows the deserters were wrong. Anyway Jungle Line contains one of my most favorite paintings in words and music as follows: There's a poppy wreath on a soldier's tomb There's a poppy snake in a dressing room Poppy poison poppy tourniquet It slithers away on brass like mouthpiece spit. ... signing off for now, Peace, David - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:11:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerry Subject: Possible Joni reference in book title Catherine wrote: >I was browsing around a bookstore yesterday, when I >spotted an interesting title: "Kiss the sunset pig," >by Laurie Gough. It's a travel book, about her trip >from Ontario (Canada) to California. I wonder if she >ever listens to Joni? >http://www.lauriegough.com/books1.html I think I read somewhere that the title was inspired by Joni's song, but I can't remember where I saw it. Mr. Murphy already has the book listed on Joni.com. I read her other book, "Kite Strings of the Southern Cross" and liked it a lot. It's sold under a different name in Canada and here's the reason, as quoted from her website: '"Island of the Human Heart" is the Canadian title for Kite Strings of the Southern Cross. Confusing, I know, but the Canadian publisher, Turnstone Press, wouldn't allow me to keep the Kite Strings title since they thought Canadians wouldn't know what the southern cross was (perhaps they felt Canadians never looked at stars and had no interest in constellations?) and also because they felt Canadians might think the book is about the Ku Klux Klan.' Silly, huh??? Kerry - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:13:09 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Last Sopranos (spoiler) sort of a little jc First of all, what a rip-off bullshit ending. Also, there was a scene where young AJ quoted the Yeats lines that included "slouching towards Bethlehem" except he called him Yeets. And finally... what a rip-off bullshit ending! RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:10:42 -0400 From: merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... For me, The Jungle Line was the only song on this album that I loved when this album came out.B The rest of the album did nothing for me at all.B I'm not sure why, but I remember thinking that you would need to be a female to appreciate this album.B I've never felt that way about any Joni album before or since.B When Hejira came out, I loved it from the second the needle hit the grooves (though I still didn't like HOSL). Fortunately, I had a very persistant room mate at the time, and finally, about 6 months after Hejira came out, and after about the 100th listening (at my room mate's insistance), I finally got it.B It was like a light switch was flipped, and the album suddenly made sense to me.B Now it's hard to even imagine what I didn't like about in the first place. Jack - -----Original Message----- From: David Sapp To: joni list Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 6:32 pm Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I am loving this discussion about Jungle Line. I bought this album on release nd in those days you didn't really hear snippets of new songs like you do now. o the song was a major shock to almost all those who had heard Joni, and it was ard to imagine that the same person of Ladies of the Canyon could have released uch an amazing composition. I loved all of the album -- but a lot of fans, and mean a lot, deserted Joni... and I think the song Jungle Line was responsible or a lot of that. But as history shows the deserters were wrong. nyway Jungle Line contains one of my most favorite paintings in words and music s follows: here's a poppy wreath on a soldier's tomb here's a poppy snake in a dressing room oppy poison poppy tourniquet t slithers away on brass like mouthpiece spit. .. signing off for now, eace, David - -------------------------------- eed a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:53:09 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... In the Glossary, there's an entry for Rousseau. http://jonimitchell.com/research/glossary.cfm Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:27:06 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Live Earth Thanks so much, Randy for supplying that link. It's an excellent web site. This should be very exciting and it's being streamed on MSN. I wonder if any of the commercial networks here will pick it up also. Al Gore certainly is winning over people around the world including Australia. He toured here for the opening of the film and it was a huge success. He has a commanding personality and was a favourite on the talk shows on TV. If someone cares this much about the planet, has the right balance of domestic issues and global perspective, he deserves to win the Presidency. I'd vote for him for World President. He's a Democrat, right? I'm a Democrat voter in this country even though they are a minor party. This is a wonderful project, taking in 9 cities. I can't wait to see what Shanghai and Istanbul comes up with. It would have been even better if more cities were involved like, Toronto, Milan, Barcelona, Paris, Moscow and Los Angeles. Apparently Tokyo is doing two shows at two different venues. As you said, much of Joni's album has environmental themes, it would have been the perfect showcase to debut the album. I believe she is a Democrat voter too, right? Something like this is bound to have some surprise appearances so, who knows? She may turn up after all at the New York show. Toni Collette is using the occasion to present her first musical release. Mark in Sydney NP Holy War - Joni On 12/06/2007, at 3:31 AM, Randy Remote wrote: > I think it's been pretty well publicized here in the US- > it helps that it is being organized by Al Gore, who, it > is still hoped, will try to regain the presidency he won > in 2000 by running again next year, and who has been > riding the wave of popularity from "An Inconvienient > Truth". I've written about it a couple of times here on > the list. The specific purpose of the concerts is to raise > awareness of climate change. The event happens on 7-7-07 (some > esoterics claim 777 is the number of > Christ, though I have not yet signed on to the Gore- > is-Jesus movement), and will be televised, radioized, > and webcast, though details are still pending. > I agree it would be a good fit for Joni, considering that > Shine will be environmentally themed.. So far she has > not been on the list of performers. > http://www.liveearth.org/ > RR > >> Hello Joniphiles. >> Last month there was a news story here about a pretty ambitious >> world-wide project happening in July. Live Earth is supposed to be >> like Live Aid with simultaneous concerts around the world ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:00:06 -0700 From: Subject: Stormy Weather Joni Bob, It's so funny you sent a link to my original review. I had forgotten it completely and wrote it while on my way to the first Jonifest at Julie's in Pittsburgh. After nearly 10 years past I thought Joseph's review of the event, based on the CD, was much more spot on - and he wasn't even there for the live show. It's too bad the CD did not include all of the songs everyone performed. I have to add that I also was not a Gwen Stefani fan until that show - she was really surprisingly impressive. Don Henley put on another Walden Woods benefit a few years later with many of the original line-up, including Joni, but it was kind of a bust on many levels. He let his private dinner party go on way too long and as a result had a couple thousand people chain smoking and pacing angrily outside the Wiltern until they let us all in several hours late. Then they made it all political, which got a lot of boos. People had spent a lot for the show and there was not much done to mitigate the rudeness of making those wait who had spent a ton and taken time out on a work night. He hasn't done another one since that I know, but that first benefit was golden. Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #176 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)