From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #175 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 11 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 175 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) [Mark-Le] Re: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) ["G] joni to tour again? ["Paul Headon" ] Some Stormy Weather for ya [Bob Muller ] Re: joni to tour again? [Bob Muller ] Re: joni to tour again? [Motitan@aol.com] RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) ["Kate ] Re: joni to tour again? [Michael Flaherty ] Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Bob Muller ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths [LCStanley7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:25:50 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Hey Joseph. Thanks for the review. An enjoyable read. I had been aware of this album and read somewhere about the purpose of it but didn't realise it was a live album. Do you know if this is available as a video on DVD? I am very interested in hearing/seeing the performances by Stevie Nicks and Bjork. Mark in Sydney NP Blue - Way Out West ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:04:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Can you supply an intelligible, usable, communicable definition of > "tessitura?" > > I'd be grateful (THIS IS NOT A JOKE) Anyone who plays a stripper in Gypsy :) > ****************************************************************************** > ****** > "Gloomy Sunday" was given magnificent nightly readings, for a week or > two, > by Ruth Brown (with Don Pullen on organ!) at the Village Gate in NYC > about > 1974. Marian McPartland had a wonderful tribute to Ruth last night at 9 pm on NPR. I was a big fan of Ruth's. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:38:10 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: joni to tour again? Hi Having travelled a 6000+ miles round trip to see Joni in her last concert in New York in 2000 I wonder will she tour in order to present her next album. Having seen The Who , with Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend in their 60s, in my home city of Swansea last week I have my passport ready. What do other people think?... Best Wishes, Paul Headon. In Wales ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Some Stormy Weather for ya As was previously mentioned, this was a promo CD given away by AT&T. There are ALWAYS copies available on ebay, it typically sellf for $5 - $10. For those who would like to hear it, I have taken the liberty of uploading it for you: http://download.yousendit.com/C54A967741E540B2 Aside from the Joni track, my favorite is the Sandra Bernhard. As Joseph stated, it's a pretty good collection and was definitely Joni's inspiration for her BSN project. She also performed "What Is This Thing Called Love?" with Bjork. Some nice pictures and a wonderful write-up by Kakki can be found here: http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=94&year=1998 Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Button My Lip" - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: joni to tour again? I think nope. Bob NP: Supertramp, "Dreamer" - --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:22:56 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: joni to tour again? In a message dated 6/10/2007 7:57:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, paul.headon@ntlworld.com writes: What do other people think?... - ------------------------------------ One can dream! There's no harm in that! - -Monika That was just a dream some of us had.... ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:17:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Thanks for the great review Joseph. At this point I forget the details but I was fortunate to see that show on one of my rare journey's to LA for a show (which usually involves Joni!). It was a very fun event- all the women were decked out in their finery & it was a treat to hear most of them singing songs outside of their normal genre. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: joni to tour again? >What do other people think?... Depends on how you define "tour". If you mean lots of dates in lots of cities all over the world, them almost certainly no. A few cities? Maybe. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:48:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the beginning! Anyway, as I was listening to it a couple of weeks ago on a new mp3 player given by my dear daughter which replaced the stolen one, I became mesmerized with the lyrical imagery of Rousseau's paintings! I went to art.com to check them out. Boy! I get it now! Doing that helps me appreciate the song so much more and Joni's love for art. I fell in love with a painting called "Sleeping Gypsy". I guess I better make sure I have the right "Rousseau" though There is a Henri Rousseau and an Henri J.F. Rousseau. Will the experts please step forward to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm looking at the work of Henri Rousseau. My question to anyone is, what exact painting is Joni referiring to in this song or is she referring to several different ones? Also, to the guitar efficiandos, in the very beginning of the song when the "Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she playing on the guitar. It sounds like an E or E flat chord. After all these years, you can still find something new and refreshing about Joni's music and now, I'm also determined to get a print of "Sleeping Gypsy" into my home! Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:10:06 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... On Jun 10, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of > Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, > especially the beginning! I love "The Jungle Line"....brings back memories of Ashara's living room and the antics of Polifka, Muller, Ashley and company...the best part of the whole thing was that there was a quiet song circle going on down the hall. It could never be duplicated in a 1000 years. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #225 Thank you for many loving welcome back e-mails....feels very, very good. Sherelle, I am so absolutely empathetic with you recent horror. Please have faith and try not to get caught in the web of PTSS. In 1985, there I was, in South Phila/center city unlocking my front door....I 'felt' someone looking at me. About a quarter of a block, facing in the opposite direction that I was, stood a man...and then I heard the footsteps running closer....and all I could think of was 'why doesn't this guy have on Reebok'.....then I feel his finger gently, ever too gently hooking underneath my pocketbook. I gave him an audition (well, no...I got the part by then) of what a really street smart 27 year old he had chosen for his (next) victim. And, his applause manifested in a gun placed in my mouth. "Com'on now." Well, I threw up my hands and announced that this is the Wild Wild West and I was in the splendid state of total surrender...whoops, gotta pee...(dancing came in so handy and I dropped to a deep plie (can't spell it...sorry) and then another as I announce I had the urge to POOP. I rambled on for a while...what felt like a long while and this man grabbed my pocketbook (loaded with VCR's and all things I hold dear to my heart...pictures...you know....the stuff you shouldn't carry without being prepared to lose them....the man ran....The last time I saw Richard was in 2002 but he finally found the key to open the front door from inside the apartment and took off after this un-named phantom of the night. The police showed up...this was a one-way street and WamBam two police cars converged on the street. I somehow got to the police car before the policeman got out of the car and yanked this poor man out of the back-seat by his EAR.....this guy was smaller than my 5'5" average frame and when I realized it wasn't "him" I apologized profusely. In the mean time the policemen were yelling, "Lady, Lady, you can't touch the suspects!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "What suspect? The only thing this gentleman has in common with the guy that accosted me is the color of his skin!!!!" And then there was another suspect and then I climbed into the front seat of the police-car and 'ordered' the officers to help me find my pocketbook!!!!! Kazoom! I was put in the back of the car and taken to open lots....and I politely asked what the statistical chances were of me seeing a rat...not good odds. We went to the police station where I was met by a top brass sort of huge man who ask me, "What do you call a nig..... with a gun?" I looked at him as though he was from some reform school...he answered, since I didn't...."Sir!"....And after I got his name and badge number other equally obnoxious things happened. I have three stories and offer to be your support buddy, Sherelle. On to another subject...favorite guitarist: he's on Cher's Farewell Tour...the CD cover I can't find so I don't know his name....but I'll find it and tell you. A long time ago I wrote: I live in the realm between reality and illusion, between blue skies and deep brown earth, between air to breathe and air to gasp, between injury and healing....and I can't find the darn piece of paper that concluded the ramblings. GGGGRRRRR. Mark, of course I remember you...and I think we shared some e-mails off the Digest. Thanks for the info. Benne....oh wow....a comparative linguist with such a mighty title for your dissertation....I'm intrigued. Are you fluent in all those languages? My hat is way off to you with cheers of congratulations! For those of you who love a good read....Jodi Picoult....wow...read several of her books..."The Pact" was great as all of them were . And Ane Brun's "A Temporary Dive" is fab. I've missed you...and love you.....darling Jonilista's!!!! Bo - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... But what I want to know is - what colors do you see when you hear this one, Sherrelle? I can only imagine whats conjured. I was always under the impression (a little art pun there) that Henri Rousseau was the painter she was singing about but I'm open to being corrected on that. Bob NP: Soundgarden, "Limo Wreck" - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:30:00 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... In a message dated 6/10/2007 4:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the beginning! - -------------------------------------- I absolutely love this song! It's one of my favorites off the album and probably one of the greatest songs ever recorded! It seems so very ahead of its time thinking about what else was going on musically in 1975. It's such an experimental track and to me it works! I still remember hearing a little clip of it the first time and listening to it in its entirety for the first time. The first time I heard a clip was when I was in a Barnes and Nobles. They had a music system there where you didn't have to find the album to scan it to listen to but merely had look it up. So I did that with THOSL, put the headphones on and remember hearing that song more than the others due to its nature. And then when I did actually buy the album and the cd was changing from track 2 to track 3 I remember thinking on first listen, "I'm definitely going to listen to that one again right away after I'm done with the album," (and that's just what I did right after "Shadows and Light"...went right back to track 2...). I was just fascinated by the song and the sounds of the song. Those drums man! - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > > But what I want to know is - what colors do you > see when you hear this one, Sherrelle? I can only > imagine whats conjured. > > I was always under the impression (a little art > pun there) that Henri Rousseau was the painter she > was singing about but I'm open to being corrected on > that. > > Bob That's what I always thought. I see the images that Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream images with lush vegetation and something just a bit ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check this one out: http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:49:04 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth >Oh Mein Papa. beautiful patti. . the song the day you were born - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Patti Parlette" To: joni@smoe.org, ubehpy2003@yahoo.com, treegreen1@hotmail.com, sherellesmith@hotmail.com Subject: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:13:41 +0000 Peep Richman wrote, in part: > My grandmother died on Christmas morning. She was >104 and 4 months old. The last thing she said to me >was, "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". That was the day I began to >choose Joni-lyrics that described my feelings. I >haven't been able to stop searching the poetic lines >of Joni's lyrics. In silence she urged me back to >living. I've always felt, and continue to feel that >Joni saves my life. Yes, in times of trouble, Joni Mitchell comforts us. Speaking words of wisdom...let it be. Welcome back, dear Bo! I'm so glad to hear you peeping again. I've missed you, and have often wondered how you are. (I worry sometimes.) What beautiful parting words from your grandmother! "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". You must keep them in your heart forever. Precious. >Love is precious. (I just had a flashback. My maternal grandmother, Nana, used to call me "Precious." I had forgotten all about that!) NPIMH: "I Will" Who knows how long Ive loved you. You know I love you still. Will I wait a lonely lifetime If you want me to  I will. For if I ever saw you I didnt catch your name. But it never really mattered I will always feel the same. Love you forever and forever. Love you with all my heart. Love you whenever were together. Love you when were apart. And when at last I find you Your song will fill the air Sing it so loud I can hear. Make it easy to be near you For the things you do endear you to me You know I will. I will. Speaking of deathbed messages, I recently read that George Harrison's was: "Love one another." Exactement! "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." And in the spirit of "Love is a story told", let me share one with you. My only channelled aspiration is that it will comfort some of you who could not physically be with a loved one when he or she passed away. When my Dad died last year, I could not be with him physically, but I was with him spiritually. He was in a nursing home/rehab center in Utah for 3 weeks. He died at approx. 5 a.m. (2/13/2006) But at 4:30 a.m. he awoke, and shared this w/ his roommate. "Larry, you awake?" Larry: "Yeah." My Dad: "I just had a dream. You and I went to Patti's birthday party in Connecticut." (This was two days after my birthday.) All in a dream, all in a dream the loading had begun...... He dreamt about me just before he passed away. I cannot tell you what comfort this has given me. I was with him! Some say that dreams are your soul travelling through place and time. To think that he was dreaming of me, and loving me tonight (npimh: "Somewhere, out there", by Linda Ronstadt), just before he passed gives me tremendous peace. And that he was awake and shared the story with Larry (Papa's faith is in people), who in turn told my brother. And that he was not suffering... Maybe, Bo, with these deathbed messages, we really *do* know love at all. What a gift. Oh Mein Papa. By the way, the link Cassy (Hi, Cassysweet!) sent, about the #1 song when you were born? (Sorry to be running behind the times...and running on!) It was "Oh, Mein Papa." Ach du Lieber, et quelle coincidence! This blew my mind! I used to sing this to my Dad whenever we had the good fortune to be together in later years. We would have a bottle of German wine to drink, and I would put on my best German accent and sing: "Oh, mein Papa. To me you are so vundervoll! Oh, mein Papa, to me you are so grand!" He would always get so choked up. *Now* I know why. It was playing the week I was born. His soundtrack to being a new Dad. Muller, I know you are getting this! (Nate, Born in the U.S.A...) Okay, I'll stop. So deep between the forceps and the stone! Bon rest of the weekend, tout le Jonimonde! And a big hug to Sherelle, my Strawberry Fields Sister! Love, Patti P. P.S. Thank you for interrupting my sorrow, which is this: Written on my spirit this sad song.... Maggie's gone. My yellow lab. Dear companion. ~ Rest in Peace ~ ~ Miss Maggie Mae von Schaff ~ ~ June 8, 1996 -- June 7, 2007 ~ "Death and birth and death and birth." Notice how close her death day and birth day was. Weird synchronicity. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:51:53 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Shine" tour? was: joni to tour again? Hi Paul, I have no insider information, primarily because I can't keep a secret. Those who might know are not talking. Anyway, she's in good spirits this year so I'm hoping for a replay of the BSN mini-tour. I don't think she'd be able to smoke on *any* commercial aircraft this year. I wonder if Joni would like touring on a bus? She could leave the driving to someone else, smoke all day and even take her cats. I know she rode busses in the early days but has she ever conducted a tour on a bus? The video from the Refuge tour is in cars. Was MoA on the bus? S&L? Jim L. "You're either on the bus or off the bus." Ken Kesey, but I think it was from Tom Wolfe's "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test", not "On the Road." Paul Headon, In Wales >Having travelled a 6000+ miles round trip to see Joni in her last concert in New York in 2000 I wonder will she tour in order to present her next album.> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:01:47 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... >I fell in love with a painting called "Sleeping Gypsy".< I love that painting! I have it in poster form somewhere (& it used to hang over my desk in my office of my previous home) I will have to see if I can dig it out! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:11:48 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Sherelle asks: in the very beginning of the song when the "Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she playing on the guitar. Hi Sherelle, In the Joni Mitchell Complete contraband book she has the guitar tuning as open A: AAC#EAE (A-12-4-3-5-7). The first chord is like a normal A chord finger formation but on the 5th fret covering the top three strings (AAC# strings) and the pointer put down on the 4th fret fourth string (E string) to look like this: o 4th fret ooo 2341 (fingers) Then lift the pointer (1) and alternate between lifting and replacing it each measure (8 measures total) and then strum an open A on the last beat of the 8th measure of introduction. The verse begins with barring all the way across on the ninth fret and then for the second measure putting two fingers down on the C# and E strings on the 11th fret while still holding the bar across the 9th fret (trumpet paths). Hope this makes sense to you and gives you a start. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #175 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)