From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #141 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 8 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 141 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni on albums [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Taming the Tiger [Garret ] Re:Stevens' FMIP tribute [Garret ] Re: Joni on albums [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni on albums [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Joni on albums [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni on albums ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] SV: Taming the Tiger ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: Joni on albums ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: Joni on albums ["Richard Flynn" ] Crown and Anchor not particularly JC ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni on albums [Motitan@aol.com] Re: VW bug ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago ["Kate Bennett" ] SV: Joni on albums ["Marion Leffler" ] Two Joni Tributes [PassScribe@aol.com] setlists, jonifest, plus more about taming the tiger ["patrick leader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 19:09:19 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni on albums Anybody needing information about Joni and her music have the opportunity to search the jonimitchell.com web site just as any inquiries made in a conversation could be arrested by simply doing your own research. So, why bother having a conversation at all? Why bother discussing Joni when you can just look everything up? Marion and Monika, you can find a lot of fascinating information at jonimitchell.com (including some fabulous wallpapers) but I'm happy to discuss any topic you might raise regarding anything Joni. If I can't contribute, I'll keep quiet. Marion, I wasn't aware that Joni had been mentioned in a James Mitchener novel. I have never read any of his works but it is interesting nonetheless. I have been curious about the movie you mentioned and I will now watch it on your recommendation. Monika, being a true fanatic, I have been searching for music that Joni has contributed to for some time. You may recall that I talked recently about the Tom Scott piece called, Love Poem. I have the song because I'd heard that Joni contributed some vocals to it. Her vocals are very subtle but the piece is lovely anyway. There was also mention of the Joan Baez song, Dida. It's also a lovely song yet dated. There is also a song by Dan Fogelberg that I tracked down called, Nexus that Joni supposedly sang on but she is part of the a group of singer and hard to distinguish. Same goes for two songs by David Crosby - Laughing and What Are Their Names. Apart from the early contributions Joni made to James Taylor and Carole King, my favourite Joni contribution to another artist's music was, Seal's song, If I could. It is more of a duet with separate vocals for Joni. I had already been a fan of Seal before this song and was excited about the prospect of those two getting together. There was an interesting article in the New York based, Interview magazine at the time. It was a staged phone interview between Joni and Seal with a photograph of each talking on the telephone. Seal had been a long time fan of Joni and it was his dream to record a song with her. It was a reciprocal arrangement with Seal singing on Joni's song, How Do You Stop. If I Could is one of my all time favourite songs. Beautiful lyrics and arrangement. Check it out. That's some of the vocal contributions I know of by Joni. Mark in Sydney NP If I Could - Seal with Joni Mitchell PS Happy Mothers Day for next weekend where applicable. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:57:23 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Taming the Tiger I finally picked up TTT, the only Joni album i did not own. I am listening to it for the first time. Mixed feelings. How do others feel about TTT? In response to the recent "bad lyrics" thread this is one of Joni's weakest, imo: "Since I lost you.... I can't get through the day/Without at least one big Boo Hoo". Compare it to one of my favourite Joni lyrics: "I went to see a friend tonight, Was very late when I walked in My talking as it rambled Revealed suspicious reasoning The visit seemed to darken him I came in as bright As a neon light And I burned out Right there before him" GARRET NP- Joni, Taming the Tiger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:00:47 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re:Stevens' FMIP tribute I really like Sufjan's FMIP and LOVE Bjork's Boho Dance. Just thought i'd share that. Some of the other cuts (Dreamland for example) do not work for me at all. The tribute album was number 13 in the chart in Tower records the day before yesterday. I thought that was impressive until someone told me that album sales worldwide had hit a worldwide low and it would probably would not take many sales to chart at this time. GARRET NP- Joni, The Crazy Cries of Love ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:02:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni on albums - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > > Apart from the early contributions Joni made to > James Taylor and Carole > King, my favourite Joni contribution to another > artist's music was, > Seal's song, One that I really love is "Blue River" by Eric Andersen. I uploaded it to yousendit.com If you've never heard this before, I know you will love it. Joni's contribution is just lovely. Link: http://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJaSmIxT001UjQwTVE9PQ Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:26:36 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni on albums Thank you, Catherine. Lovely song. Very bluesy. What year was this? Mark Sydney On 07/05/2007, at 10:02 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> >> Apart from the early contributions Joni made to >> James Taylor and Carole >> King, my favourite Joni contribution to another >> artist's music was, >> Seal's song, > > One that I really love is "Blue River" by Eric > Andersen. > > I uploaded it to yousendit.com > > If you've never heard this before, I know you will > love it. Joni's contribution is just lovely. > > Link: > http://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJaSmIxT001UjQwTVE9PQ > > > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk > email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at > http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:48:28 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni on albums I gotta respectfully disagree with that statement. I got that double LP (The Innocent Age) for Christmas, and I think Nexus was song 1 on side 1. I played it, and Joni's easily-identifiable vocal cadence or whatever it was called IMMEDIATELY jumped out. I was very excited and saying to myself "Man, that's Joni Mitchell!" I will agree with you on the "What Are Their Names" track though - finding her in that one is like a needle in a haystack. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Never Let Go" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:57:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni on albums I remember hearing Nexus for the first time, knowing nothing about it, and immediately recognizing it. Same thing with a Jimmy Webb song. Her distinctive voice soars above the others. Jerry Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > that Joni supposedly sang on but she is part of the a group of singer > and hard to distinguish.> > > I gotta respectfully disagree with that statement. I got that double LP > (The Innocent Age) for Christmas, and I think Nexus was song 1 on side 1. > I played it, and Joni's easily-identifiable vocal cadence or whatever it > was called IMMEDIATELY jumped out. I was very excited and saying to myself > "Man, that's Joni Mitchell!" > > I will agree with you on the "What Are Their Names" track though - finding > her in that one is like a needle in a haystack. > > Bob > > NP: Tom Waits, "Never Let Go" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:13:52 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Taming the Tiger Garret, I haven't listened to TTT yet but I read in an interview that Joni wrote those lyrics you refer to for her cat who had been missing for 10 days. Maybe that explains the less sophisticated style? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Garret Skickat: den 7 maj 2007 11:57 Till: list Dmne: Taming the Tiger I finally picked up TTT, the only Joni album i did not own. I am listening to it for the first time. Mixed feelings. How do others feel about TTT? In response to the recent "bad lyrics" thread this is one of Joni's weakest, imo: "Since I lost you.... I can't get through the day/Without at least one big Boo Hoo". Compare it to one of my favourite Joni lyrics: "I went to see a friend tonight, Was very late when I walked in My talking as it rambled Revealed suspicious reasoning The visit seemed to darken him I came in as bright As a neon light And I burned out Right there before him" GARRET NP- Joni, Taming the Tiger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:13:10 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni on albums It was 1972. There is also a live version from the Mudd Club September 18, 1982 that you can get here on yousendit: http://download.yousendit.com/FB72736574205EB8 - ----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mark-Leon Thorne Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:27 AM To: Catherine McKay Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: Joni on albums Thank you, Catherine. Lovely song. Very bluesy. What year was this? Mark Sydney On 07/05/2007, at 10:02 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> >> Apart from the early contributions Joni made to >> James Taylor and Carole >> King, my favourite Joni contribution to another >> artist's music was, >> Seal's song, > > One that I really love is "Blue River" by Eric > Andersen. > > I uploaded it to yousendit.com > > If you've never heard this before, I know you will > love it. Joni's contribution is just lovely. > > Link: > http://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJaSmIxT001UjQwTVE9PQ > > > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk > email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at > http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:32:00 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni on albums Sorry, the date was February 18, 1982. The cut is from a now out-of-print Eric Andersen, Live at the Mudd Club album that used to be available through mp3.com. I'm a big Eric Andersen fan. Is anyone else? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Richard Flynn Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:13 AM To: 'Mark-Leon Thorne'; 'Catherine McKay' Cc: 'JMDL' Subject: RE: Joni on albums It was 1972. There is also a live version from the Mudd Club September 18, 1982 that you can get here on yousendit: http://download.yousendit.com/FB72736574205EB8 - ----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mark-Leon Thorne Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:27 AM To: Catherine McKay Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: Joni on albums Thank you, Catherine. Lovely song. Very bluesy. What year was this? Mark Sydney On 07/05/2007, at 10:02 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> >> Apart from the early contributions Joni made to >> James Taylor and Carole >> King, my favourite Joni contribution to another >> artist's music was, >> Seal's song, > > One that I really love is "Blue River" by Eric > Andersen. > > I uploaded it to yousendit.com > > If you've never heard this before, I know you will > love it. Joni's contribution is just lovely. > > Link: > http://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJaSmIxT001UjQwTVE9PQ > > > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk > email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at > http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 15:29:44 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Crown and Anchor not particularly JC Chuck wrote: "There is a well-known Crown and Anchor establishment on Commercial Street in Provincetown...a complex of several bars, caberet, poolside/ harborside lounges , video discos , a leather bar and, true to it's beginnings as a 'motor court', even some rooms to rent!" Wow. Sounds like a swingin' hot spot! With a wink and a smile, Patti P. in Morning UConn Town P.S. I sometimes stayed (many dim years ago) at the Capeview Motel at the intersection of 6 and 6A...it had a great view of the tip of the Cape. And then the N. Truro camping areas, where the chipmunks stole our croissants and where the beach paths were lined with wild blueberry bushes and you could see the lighthouse beams at night....loved to see that green water in motion....and eat bouillabaisse (now THERE'S a sweeter fare!) at Ciro & Sal's.... Ah, now you've got me wanting to take my dream (a dream that you love someone, a dream that the wars are done) down by the sea Yankee yachts and lobster pots and sunshine..... I've got beach tar on my feet.... YIKES! JMOCDed at work once again! And there are no pillows here for my Cape Cod wanderlust.... My dreams with the seagulls fly out of reach out of cry _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:14:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger Garret wrote: >>>>I finally picked up TTT, the only Joni album i did not own. I am listening to it for the first time. Mixed feelings. How do others feel about TTT? Same here. IMO, it is better than the orchestra albums, but a fall after NRH and TI. That I can't discuss it further without having the song list in front of me says something--that's rarely the case with Joni. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:56:25 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on albums Anybody needing information about Joni and her music have the opportunity to search the jonimitchell.com web site just as any inquiries made in a conversation could be arrested by simply doing your own research. So, why bother having a conversation at all? Why bother discussing Joni when you can just look everything up? - --------------------------------- Oh believe me, I do lots of research on Joni but there are only so many hours in one day! I have checked out all the main sites on her (and looked for individual fan pages as well and such) but sometimes it is good to discuss. And in this case, sure I can look this stuff up (and probably will even with everyone's input), but I figure asking here would not only provide some answers but some opinions rather than just the facts of what she sang on and what year. I am much more interested in opinions like, which contribution of hers on others albums is easy to hear or hard to distinguish and which ones people bring up according to what they like most or find most interesting. That's all. Because realistically as you said, anyone could look up anything on Joni via the net and have their answer. But that's not as fun as discussing it is and this is a discussion list. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Take it or leave it. - -Mon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: VW bug Marianne Rizzo wrote: > My first car was a red VW bug. . > I loved it and so did all my friends. > > I was 16 and I paid 700 dollars for it. . saved all the money my self. . > . > learned to drive a stick shift in that car.. . > > > no heat in the car . . had to scrape the insides of the window as I > drove. I had a 1969 Karman Ghia which I loved. My friends always teased me because I was the only one who had to scrape the INSIDE of the windshield. But I learned ti trick of turning on the defrost and cranking the window a crack. > > one day I was driving from my college town (Geneseo) to Buffalo for a joni > concert. . maybe it was 1980. . and someone else had their car broken > down by the side of the thruway. . I believe that would be 1983. The Center Theater downtown Buffalo. xoxo Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:04:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Four Dead in Ohio -- 37 years ago What a horrible time that was. I had recently been in Ohio, not far from Kent State, just before that happened. I went back later that Spring to see my friends. It had been such a violent couple of years with the assassinations of MLK & RFK & now four students. Everyone I knew was protesting the war at that time (most nonviolently but some otherwise). I headed for the west coast (they had just burned down the Bank of America in Isla Vista before I arrived). I headed for the hills to get back to the garden. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:10:50 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: DJRD has entered the building I am so excited to say that "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" arrived today in the mail. Given all the opinions on it here from the list and from what I have read about it (and the few songs I have heard before from the album), I'm sure it'll be something! And of course I love having new Joni music (new to me anyhow) because it's just another facet, just another door to open, another road to explore. I can't wait to listen to it! I've got a few errands to take care of but I'll rush my way happily through them to get to the album. My opinion on the album will arrive in coming time. "Give me some time, I feel like I'm losing mine." Live and learn, Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 13:15:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Taming the Tiger The same. Harlem in Havana is amazing - I loved it straight outta the gate and still do. Man From Mars is also great, but the Parker Fly guitar/VG8 was not a sound that I cared for and unfortunately it's all over the record. I loved the fact that she was writing middle-aged love songs and not girly love songs (Face Lift, Love Puts On A New Face, Stay In Touch). Some of the songs are a bit unfocused or poorly executed (No Apologies, Lead Balloon)or just plain superfluous (Tiger Bones). At the end of the day, it's an enjoyable record - would have been made much better with some piano or acoustic guitar in lieu of the instrumental sound she got with the Parker/VG8 combo. The issue is simply that the bar Joni set for herself in the 70's is simply unapproachable, even for her. While I'm eagerly anticipating Shine, I'm pretty sure it will suffer from the same symptoms. Bob NP: Ryan Adams, "Goodnight Hollywood Blvd" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:52:32 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: VW bug (NCJ) 1972 VW Squareback I had painted Chocolate Brown. It always had more sand then carpet in it. It smelled like the ocean, sometimes not in a good way. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald A. Notaro" To: "Marianne Rizzo" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: VW bug > Marianne Rizzo wrote: >> My first car was a red VW bug. . >> I loved it and so did all my friends. >> >> I was 16 and I paid 700 dollars for it. . saved all the money my self. . >> . >> learned to drive a stick shift in that car.. . >> >> >> no heat in the car . . had to scrape the insides of the window as I >> drove. > > I had a 1969 Karman Ghia which I loved. My friends always teased me > because I was the only one who had to scrape the INSIDE of the windshield. > But I learned ti trick of turning on the defrost and cranking the window a > crack. >> >> one day I was driving from my college town (Geneseo) to Buffalo for a >> joni >> concert. . maybe it was 1980. . and someone else had their car broken >> down by the side of the thruway. . > > I believe that would be 1983. The Center Theater downtown Buffalo. > > xoxo > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:20:00 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Joni on albums Thank you Mark, for your encouragement! Looking for info on JoniMitchell.com is fun but it takes time and you have to know what you are looking for (of course at the same time you discover many things you werent looking for). Anyhow, its actually more gratifying to ask on this list, since people here will give you surplus information, which is great. And you get an opinion, too. Its always more fun to have a conversation than just to look things up. And if I do look things up I usually would like to discuss them with somebody  again, the list is a great place to go. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Mark-Leon Thorne Skickat: den 7 maj 2007 11:09 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: Joni on albums ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:29:31 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Two Joni Tributes Hi, all, I had emailed some close friends who live in Skaneateles, NY, about the The Skaneateles Area Arts Council presentation of "A Tribute to Joni Mitchell: A Concert by Maria De Angelis and Friends" on Saturday, April 28 at 8 pm at the First Presbyterian Church in Skaneateles. He just wrote to me to say, "Grace and I went to that Joni Mitchell tribute by Maria De Angelis and Friends. It was OK but we couldn't help be reminded of how great Joni's voice is in comparison to other people's trying to do her music." And, since posting my displeasure with the Sufjan Stevens' cover of "Free Man In Paris", on the new CD, I checked the online site where you can hear sound bytes of all the songs; unfortunately, some are just too short to really get a true impression. Last Friday, however, WFUV did an "Under The Covers" set of Joni songs, as covered by other artists, and it included two off the new tribute album. I heard Sarah McLachlan's "Blue" and k.d. Lang's "Help Me", and I thought they were very well done. Kenny B ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 00:20:34 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: setlists, jonifest, plus more about taming the tiger hey adriano- my set was: 1) night ride home, with sue mac on guitar 2) crazy cries of love, with les ross on guitar i also participated in nickey's set, which i think was: 1) time after time (lauper), nickey and me, with sue mac on guitar 2) true colors (lauper), nickey, with the crowd on the choruses 3) big yellow taxi, with half the county on stage after i got back from jonifest, i loaded the albums 'night ride home' and 'ttt' on my ipod, and have been listening a lot to both of them, and loving them. actually, after one complete listen, i reduced ttt to five songs (i also have the much better, unreleased version of 'man from mars' on my 'pod). listening to 'crazy cries' and thinking about this endless debate about her voice, young and now old, i just experienced again how amazing her phrasing has become. yeah, if you listen now, hoping to hear the high clear notes we fell in love with, you'll be disappointed. but if you listen to joni for what she has now... maybe it's me getting comfortable with getting older. i didn't chip in on the age thread, but i'll be 49 next month. i'm still goofy and kidlike, but i love getting older... my deepening perspective on and appreciation of the world. i really really love the song 'taming the tiger', everything about it, the melody, the guitar chords, every single lyric. one of the people who came to jonifest was a jazz writer named michelle mercer (mike pritchard, les irvin, michelle and i took a great snowy hike up the mountain saturday morning). michelle wrote a book about wayne shorter, which i just got from amazon. haven't read the whole book; i cheated and read the joni parts, but i also read about wayne shorter's wife, ana maria, who died in the flight 800 crash after they had 26 years together. i'd known that the line from 'taming the tiger': "...a plane went blinking by and i thought of anna, wild and dear like fireworks in the sky. fireworks in the sky..." was about ana maria, though the first name is spelled different. i came across this in the bio, in the section about her death. "Tina Turner called Wayne to offer her condolences. 'She did it, didn't she?" Tina said. 'She left in the greatest array of light. She went with the whole spectrum.' Tina was acknowledging the Buddhist belief that death is the moment when the true self emerges. In Ana's defining moment of self, the plane went up in a blaze. With Wayne's unique perspective on death, the very explosion of the plane was a consolation to him." (from 'footprints', 2004, michelle mercer) and joni took a moment, when people she loved made something beautiful out of mourning, and she made a beautiful moment in a beautiful, sad, humorous, rueful and wise song. patrick jfp - tori amos, crucify ep, with 'angie', 'smells like teen spirit' and 'thank you' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:08:06 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Re:Stevens' FMIP tribute I heard it for the first time today (on the radio). I thought it was horrible and idiotic. My first thought was that he was too lazy to learn the real chords. It's not the same song at all. He just emo'd it all to hell. Just terrible. RR From: "Garret" >I really like Sufjan's FMIP and LOVE Bjork's Boho Dance. Just thought > i'd share that. Some of the other cuts (Dreamland for example) do not > work for me at all. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #141 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)