From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #134 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 2 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 134 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow"-instrumental????-Darned wrong!!! [Victor] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow"-instrumental????-Darned wrong!!! [jeann] hello, for the 1st time.... ["Christian MACKOWSKI" ] Re: hello, for the 1st time.... [jeannie ] My Generation ["Cassy" ] Various [srobe444@aol.com] Re: My Generation [Victor Johnson ] Thoughts and question [Motitan@aol.com] Re: My Generation ["AJ" ] Re: My Generation ["Happy The Man" ] Re: It MAY be time for more Joni Covers! (Or...more Joni Covers? May Day, May Day!!) [Mark-Leon Thorne ] SV: Joni now and then ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at [jeannie Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow"-instrumental????-Darned wrong!!! On May 1, 2007, at 3:39 PM, anon anon wrote: > I really don't understand why DITS would be played as an > intrumental... It doesn't make any sense... the lyrics to this song > are so powerful and important!!! Whoever made this descision was > NOT thinking clearly in my opinion. Unless its the Jason Marsalis Quartet. If that was the case then it would totally kick ass! Victor, thinking back all those years ago to 2000 in New Orleans but will be spending this Memorial Day weekend in Boston! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:44:11 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow"-instrumental????-Darned wrong!!! The beats after, "You be polite" would be worth it to me to hear what he does with it. On Joni's album, I can't categorize that sound genre. Is it jazz with a little disco feel? Bob, I had never thought of Joni as being cryptic, but you're right. Now, I want to be a joni cryptanalyst. :) I'll could get myself an office like those 1940 black and white movies with a sign on my frosted glass door, Roberta Joan Anderson Cryptanalyst. "Too cosmic to be cryptic and to cryptic to be cosmic," is what I've been told before and that would be my personal motto. NP El Purajhei De Teresa Parodi 33 1/3 record. I got myself a turntable so I can listen to Joni's DJRD on a platter. How can I get myself a copy? I want to hear the crystal clear sound, now. - --Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > as an intrumental... > It doesn't make any sense... the lyrics to this song > are so powerful and > important!!!> > > While the lyrics are complex and among Joni's most > cryptic, the melody > stands on its own. That's what makes it an > interesting cover, and Brad > Mehldau is certainly one who can find and expand the > melodic nuances in > the song as he did earlier with "Roses Blue". Joni's > melodies and chord > structures open themselves up so much to > instrumental interpretation by > jazz musicians, it doesn't mean that the lyrics are > not worthy but rather > that the musical composition is equally strong. > > Bob > > NP: Bruce Sprinsteen, "The Price You Pay" >> - Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:25:00 +0200 From: "Christian MACKOWSKI" Subject: hello, for the 1st time.... I'm coming into this JMDL for the first time and it's such a great moment...I've been waitin' for this moment for almost 35 ys,admiring all the Artwork of Joni, which I never saw in concert....I'm living in France, and got all the "masterpieces" in music albums,discs & DVD....first of all, I want to congratulate her because all she did is exceptionnal of beauty, it's enormous..really...and more, she's a painter too!!! does anybody knows if a "manifestation" in anyway is possible ?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:34:11 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Miles Beyond... I completely "get it" what you've been saying. I feel that way too. But trying to get Joni to give us what she no longer wants to give us, or is no longer capable of giving us, is like trying to stop a force of nature, I think. There are no levees to contain her desire to spread out. And every once in a while a golden nugget like the song "TI" pops out, just to tease and let us know its still there - we just can't have it. "No, Tony, you may NOT have a pony". We have to eat more "dense social" whatever it was. Good thing there are other songer/songwriters still doing the other thing, so we don't starve. Em ps but I do like Hejira...drone or no drone. I mean its a cocaine road trip and those tend to "drone"...like the drone of the engines of a Lockheed Electra I wonder what the average age group is of this discussion list. I am thinking that the majority that post are between 45 - 55. Like so many of you, I first stumbled upon Joni when she released C&S. And kind of like Monika is doing now, I bought Blue next and then went through the rest of her releases right through HOSL which was out by the time I was ready for it . I think that the reason I love the period from STAS - C&S as my favorite is because Joni just seemed to hit my buttons with everything she wrote. It was as personal, as self confessional, as introspective, as honest and as pure music as I had ever heard. .....But it was even more than that. Nobody had ever gotten inside my head and made me think and feel the way those songs did. The pureness and honesty of her words, the delicate meolodies, her beautiful voice, it was like a drug when you got sucked in and you do want more and more so you kind of resist the change at first - until you understand where she went and you take the time to get there yourself. I wasn't ready for a cocaine induced road trip when Hejira came out but by the time I had listened to it for the 100th time I sure as hell was. ..... And I really enjoy hearing everyone's differing opinion out here but I have this theory that many of us who are partial to C&S, FTR and Blue were actually introduced to her music in the C&S period when we were teenagers. As a matter of fact - my 15 year old daughter recently fell in love with Blue and is repeatedly playing it all night long. I keep telling her to listen to FTR or C&S or LOTC but she tells me - "Dad - its not the same as Blue. I never heard anyone sing from their heart like that - I really feel what shes saying - she makes me cry sometimes" This is a great thread....................Stewart - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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Coincidence that he just came home from work, sat me down on his computer and made me read this NYT article. He's going to the grocery store now to buy himself and me a carton of this stuff. Maybe Joni and all smokers can switch if this brand would be less harmful. I have a bad cough, too. Tobacco, the air, herb, and all those things contribute to this cough. Don't let us get sick Don't let us get old Don't let us get stupid, alright? Just make us be brave And make us play nice And let us be together tonight ~Warren Zevon~ Jeannie MAGAZINE | June 12, 2005 Incendiary Device By JON GERTNER A new cigarette filter may make smoking a lot less harmful. But is that a good thing? http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/12/magazine/12FILTER.html?emc=eta1 - ---------------------------------------------------------- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help@nytimes.com. NYTimes.com 500 Seventh Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 17:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: hello, for the 1st time.... Hello Christian, and welcome to the JMDL. If I'm understanding your question correctly, you're wanting to know if one can actually purchase and/or own Joni's artwork. She doesn't see it per se but sometimes some unique art pieces come up on ebay, and lithographs, even signed lithos, are fairly common there. Bob NP: Three Mo' Tenors, "Twisted" - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 16:55:35 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: hello, for the 1st time.... So, so glad you finally made it home where you belong!! I recently took the night ride home, too! Bien, bienvenido, amigo. Jean - --- Christian MACKOWSKI wrote: > I'm coming into this JMDL for the first time and > it's such a great > moment...I've been waitin' for this moment for > almost 35 ys,admiring all the > Artwork of Joni, which I never saw in concert....I'm > living in France, and got > all the "masterpieces" in music albums,discs & > DVD....first of all, I want to > congratulate her because all she did is exceptionnal > of beauty, it's > enormous..really...and more, she's a painter too!!! > does anybody knows if a > "manifestation" in anyway is possible ?? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:20:02 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: My Generation Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com <<>> I am 52 yrs old and my first Joni Album was Song to a Seagull followed closely by Ladies of the Canyon. I ran into a very cool video on You tube the other day, speaking of generations... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFrCUrEbY I thought it was very very cool. Warmly, Cassy NP: Joni - Black Crow (Shadows & Light version) Black Crow is one of my "repeats" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:24:28 -0400 From: srobe444@aol.com Subject: Various I remember reading of Jaco's death in the NY Times , and for some reason I thought he had died in a knife fight in a bar, but close enought I guess. I recall that he was strung out on heroin and I don't think he had actually played for a couple of years prior to his death. Which is a shame all the way around. On the tribute album, I had to check the album twice when Emmylou Harris sand because I thought it was Joni. I liked the Dreamland. did not get the Surfjan thing at all and sweet Jesus what the heck is Bjork? The Boho Dance is one of my favorite songs but it was unrecognizable. On the MOA front, I think the version of Cactus Tree there is incredibly beautiful and rich and dep and soulful " ...with his facts and figures scrawl.." On a different note, I assume that many know this but for those of you who don't the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band put out a triple album in 1972 called "Will the Circle Be Unbroken " to capture the last of the reaal roots country/bluegrass musicians like Flatt and Scruggs and the Carter Family. There is a guitar instrumental of Both Sides Now at the very end that is breathtaking. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:40:13 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: My Generation On May 1, 2007, at 8:20 PM, Cassy wrote: > Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com > > << I am thinking that the majority that post are between 45 - 55. >>> > > I am 52 yrs old and my first Joni Album was Song to a Seagull > followed closely by Ladies of the Canyon. I am 37 yrs old going on 24 (inside joke)....but my first Joni album was still Song to a Seagull. I borrowed it from a friend at college and was instantly mesmerized. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:33:32 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Thoughts and question I went to the library today and decided to watch my love, YouTube. I watched a load of different music performances including a bunch of Joni. I saw that '65 performance in Canada that someone had mentioned here on the list. She was so young there and already playing stuff more complex than just pure folk! I also saw the entire "Get Together" performance from the Big Sur with CSN (I can't believe I found that!), a performance of "Help Me" from the 70's (top notch!), a '74 performance of the CSNY song "Helpless" in which Joni is on stage for (good stuff man!), and a perfomance of "Borderline" some time from the 90's (very moving!). I also watched a few performances by others as well. My question is where the performance of "Borderline" is from. All I know is that Joni was alone playing acoustic, her hair looked a bit messy, the audience looked mesmerized (and now for something that could be considered a clue), and behind her was a big sign or banner that said "Folk Troubadour" or "The Folk Troubadour." That's all I saw of that sign. So could someone clue me in on what that was from or what that was? Thanks! - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:52:28 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: My Generation I turn 52 tomorrow and my first JM album was FTR. Of course I'd heard "Both Sides Now" (owned the single by Judy Collins) and "Woodstock," but FTR was my introduction. And my favorite all-time JM song is on it (although my favorite album is THOSL). I intend to have "Judgement of the Moon and Stars" played at my memorial service, when that time comes. You've got to your shake fist at lightning you gotta roar like forest fire - --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:17:52 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: My Generation Happy Birthday AJ 48 here going on......oh what the hell..... MOA followed quickly by C&S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "AJ" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: My Generation >I turn 52 tomorrow and my first JM album was FTR. > Of course I'd heard "Both Sides Now" (owned the single > by Judy Collins) and "Woodstock," but FTR was my > introduction. And my favorite all-time JM song is on it > (although my favorite album is THOSL). > > I intend to have "Judgement of the Moon and Stars" > played at my memorial service, when that time comes. > > You've got to your shake fist at lightning > you gotta roar like forest fire > > --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:57:59 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: It MAY be time for more Joni Covers! (Or...more Joni Covers? May Day, May Day!!) Thanks Bob for another fascinating instalment. I find Vinegar Brain's, Little Green grows on me. Joni's original can bring tears to my eyes but when you're all cried out, this can help you just bop along. Much like Counting Crows', BYT. Very catchy. I absolutely loved Pamela Shane's SFS. It's faithful to the original but not robotic as many covers are who try not to stray from Joni's version are. There is real feeling here. I do tend to like the covers which try to remain faithful to the original because it is the subtlety of the performer that I enjoy rather than people who try to reinvent the song. Especially if they are really into the song. I look forward to these volumes. Thanks for keeping it up, Bob. Mark in Sydney NP Song For Sharon - Pamela Shane ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 19:19:12 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at On 1-May-07, at 4:21 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Don't feel bad, Catherine--my dad always felt the same way towards > Joni's > music. And while I'm at it, he also thought she was a DOG to look > at (!?!?!). There is no explaining taste in looks. I know a guy who thinks Diana Krall is g.o.r.g.e.o.u.s. while I think she is plain and even homely. Same goes for the late Princess Diana. The media made such a big fuss about her being beautiful, but I thought she had a way-too-big shnozz and was nothing special to look at, just pretty in a plain-jane kind of way that good clothes and hairdressers will do for a girl. Some kind of mass hypnosis thing going on, maybe? Kind of the way boys with guitars are sexy, and when they're not playing, girls don't notice them? Joni has had periods in her life when she was stunning, and others where she wasn't. I think this is more realistic. And most of us can probably relate to it much better on a personal level. I have had days when I could knock socks off, and days when I might as well have been the socks. Another thing I notice is that in books accompanied by photographs, women in particular are often described as being real beauties and such, and I look at the pictures and say "Huh?" and just don't get it. Most photos simply do not show the spirit that enlivens beauty, usually. And then there's that "eye of the beholder" thing; no getting around that. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:29:06 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at You're so right, Kate! What I find special about Joni's looks is that she looks so different in different photos and even more so when you watch her on dvd/video. Also, I don't know of any other artist who let herself be photographed/filmed without any make up on! (Of course, at times she does wear make up - a lot of it at that!) Have a nice day, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Kate Johnson Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 02:19 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at On 1-May-07, at 4:21 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Don't feel bad, Catherine--my dad always felt the same way towards > Joni's > music. And while I'm at it, he also thought she was a DOG to look > at (!?!?!). There is no explaining taste in looks. I know a guy who thinks Diana Krall is g.o.r.g.e.o.u.s. while I think she is plain and even homely. Same goes for the late Princess Diana. The media made such a big fuss about her being beautiful, but I thought she had a way-too-big shnozz and was nothing special to look at, just pretty in a plain-jane kind of way that good clothes and hairdressers will do for a girl. Some kind of mass hypnosis thing going on, maybe? Kind of the way boys with guitars are sexy, and when they're not playing, girls don't notice them? Joni has had periods in her life when she was stunning, and others where she wasn't. I think this is more realistic. And most of us can probably relate to it much better on a personal level. I have had days when I could knock socks off, and days when I might as well have been the socks. Another thing I notice is that in books accompanied by photographs, women in particular are often described as being real beauties and such, and I look at the pictures and say "Huh?" and just don't get it. Most photos simply do not show the spirit that enlivens beauty, usually. And then there's that "eye of the beholder" thing; no getting around that. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:41:19 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: My generation First of all, happy birthday, Aj! I am 57 (am I the oldest one on the list?) and have listened to Joni since 1970. I started with STAS and bought every album that followed up to and including WTRF. Joni's music was my life aid, I wonder where I would have gone with my emotions if I hadn't had Joni to put them in words and sing them so beautifully. Then my life changed and I stopped listening to music for a long time. So lately I have been replacing all my vinyls with cds (except for Mingus and DJRD) and completed with what followed after WTRF. All this means that I was not familiar with Joni's work after 1983 and are still in the process of taking it all in. As I said in another post, I think the essential Joni is there through all her work, the changes she made do not bother me. Or maybe it's because I've grown older, too. Emotions tend to be less intense while the intellect works harder, I find. Marion ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:46:00 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Joni now and then Thank you, Jean. Your impressions of FTR made me think about that album in a new way, I hadn't thought about it like that before. And it seems to me that you have a very good point there! Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr jeannie Skickat: den 1 maj 2007 23:21 Till: Marion Leffler; 'JMDL' Dmne: Re: Joni now and then For me, FTR was more like her offering herself like a lover over to nature (like a virgin maiden) and surrendering love's pain and suffering over to nature, truly for the first time. She put up the white flag and said, "go ahead, fuck your strangers, I'm here now, for the roses." Kind of reminds me of Ingmar Bergmans,'The Virgin Spring.' And the spring's still flowing and with that spring, I feel refreshed and I too, partake of this virgin renewal whenever I listen. The pain and joy of love is still there but she's stronger because she's rooted to the earth now instead of being rooted only to love like a sturdy rose bush and she makes it clear that she's got thorns along with her budding beauty. Marion, your observations are delicate and sensitive, similar to roses, themselves. Sincerely, Jean - --- Marion Leffler wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I've been reading the discussion on THOSL and the > pros and cons for Joni > then and before and now, and I feel I just have to > contribute. > > To my mind, Blue was a profound change from the > previous albums, STAS, > Clouds and LOTC. The folk songs were gone > altogether, and as we all know, > Blue was extremely personal. FTR I feel was a > follower-up to Blue, maybe not > quite as strong but surely just as emotional and > confessional. With THOSL > Joni turned outward, as has been pointed out in > other posts. To me, however, > descriptions of that that album as being > "emotionally bankrupt", > "superficial" and "glossy" are missing the point > completely. I find it just > as emotional and deep as any before, and this > applies to Joni's way of > singing as well as the lyrics. I feel that on THOSL > she is attempting to > empathize, to consciously try and express not her > own but other people's > feelings, emotions she has observed in other people > around her. Harry's > house is a good example, even if I think she is a > little biased in Harry's > favour :-). COS is like that as well but at the same > time a return to > self-observation. I think this goes for all the > following albums as well, > even DED, although to me, DED is the album that > differs most from Joni's > other work. (She sounds so angry, and the beat > actually hurts my ears.). So > what I want to say is that to my mind Joni has > continued to struggle with > emotions but does it in different ways - ways that > you can either like or > not like but hardly call "emotionally bankrupt". > > Summing up, I really do not think that Joni has > changed as profoundly as > people tend to point out. The essence seems to be > the same to me, whereas > her forms of expression have changed, she has tried > to deal with life in > different ways. Joni's songs have made me think a > lot and helped me > understand things. If this hadn't been the case, I > would have stopped > listening to her. We can't complain about the way > she does things, it's her > mind, her heart and her life. We can admire her, we > can be grateful for the > insights she has given us, or, if we feel she has > nothing more to offer us, > we can ignore her and just let it go by. > > This is the way I see it. Thanks for letting me have > my say. > > Have a nice evening, > > Marion in Sweden Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at I differ with you in opinion concerning Joni's use of make-up. I mean, shhe's not drenched. Just like her paintings, she's never brusque. Well, on her self-portraits like Vincent's, she does some rough brushstrokes there! But Joni blends colors exquisitely, to me. Peace to you, Marion, Jean NP: Third World Man--Steely Dan Marion Leffler wrote: You're so right, Kate! What I find special about Joni's looks is that she looks so different in different photos and even more so when you watch her on dvd/video. Also, I don't know of any other artist who let herself be photographed/filmed without any make up on! (Of course, at times she does wear make up - a lot of it at that!) Have a nice day, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Kate Johnson Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 02:19 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at On 1-May-07, at 4:21 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Don't feel bad, Catherine--my dad always felt the same way towards > Joni's > music. And while I'm at it, he also thought she was a DOG to look > at (!?!?!). There is no explaining taste in looks. I know a guy who thinks Diana Krall is g.o.r.g.e.o.u.s. while I think she is plain and even homely. Same goes for the late Princess Diana. The media made such a big fuss about her being beautiful, but I thought she had a way-too-big shnozz and was nothing special to look at, just pretty in a plain-jane kind of way that good clothes and hairdressers will do for a girl. Some kind of mass hypnosis thing going on, maybe? Kind of the way boys with guitars are sexy, and when they're not playing, girls don't notice them? Joni has had periods in her life when she was stunning, and others where she wasn't. I think this is more realistic. And most of us can probably relate to it much better on a personal level. I have had days when I could knock socks off, and days when I might as well have been the socks. Another thing I notice is that in books accompanied by photographs, women in particular are often described as being real beauties and such, and I look at the pictures and say "Huh?" and just don't get it. Most photos simply do not show the spirit that enlivens beauty, usually. And then there's that "eye of the beholder" thing; no getting around that. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: It MAY be time for more Joni Covers! (Or...more Joni Covers? May Day, May Day!!) The best I've ever seen was Cyndi Lauper doing, 'Carey,' live on that tribute show a few years ago. I would love to have a copy of that show. I just have it on VHS and I don't have that equipment anymore. Can somebody please let me know where I can get a copy...and Joni looked stunning, as did her daughter and boyfriend and everybody looked pretty and handsome because happiness is the BEST facelift. Jeannie Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: Thanks Bob for another fascinating instalment. I find Vinegar Brain's, Little Green grows on me. Joni's original can bring tears to my eyes but when you're all cried out, this can help you just bop along. Much like Counting Crows', BYT. Very catchy. I absolutely loved Pamela Shane's SFS. It's faithful to the original but not robotic as many covers are who try not to stray from Joni's version are. There is real feeling here. I do tend to like the covers which try to remain faithful to the original because it is the subtlety of the performer that I enjoy rather than people who try to reinvent the song. Especially if they are really into the song. I look forward to these volumes. Thanks for keeping it up, Bob. Mark in Sydney NP Song For Sharon - Pamela Shane - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:10:26 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at No, Jean, not nowadays she isnt but if you look at pictures taken in the sixties and early seventies her eye make-up is very accentuated  but of course that was the fashion then. Marion _____ Fren: jeannie [mailto:dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 07:57 Till: Marion Leffler; 'Kate Johnson'; joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at I differ with you in opinion concerning Joni's use of make-up. I mean, shhe's not drenched. Just like her paintings, she's never brusque. Well, on her self-portraits like Vincent's, she does some rough brushstrokes there! But Joni blends colors exquisitely, to me. Peace to you, Marion, Jean NP: Third World Man--Steely Dan Marion Leffler wrote: You're so right, Kate! What I find special about Joni's looks is that she looks so different in different photos and even more so when you watch her on dvd/video. Also, I don't know of any other artist who let herself be photographed/filmed without any make up on! (Of course, at times she does wear make up - a lot of it at that!) Have a nice day, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Kate Johnson Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 02:19 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at On 1-May-07, at 4:21 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Don't feel bad, Catherine--my dad always felt the same way towards > Joni's > music. And while I'm at it, he also thought she was a DOG to look > at (!?!?!). There is no explaining taste in looks. I know a guy who thinks Diana Krall is g.o.r.g.e.o.u.s. while I think she is plain and even homely. Same goes for the late Princess Diana. The media made such a big fuss about her being beautiful, but I thought she had a way-too-big shnozz and was nothing special to look at, just pretty in a plain-jane kind of way that good clothes and hairdressers will do for a girl. Some kind of mass hypnosis thing going on, maybe? Kind of the way boys with guitars are sexy, and when they're not playing, girls don't notice them? Joni has had periods in her life when she was stunning, and others where she wasn't. I think this is more realistic. And most of us can probably relate to it much better on a personal level. I have had days when I could knock socks off, and days when I might as well have been the socks. Another thing I notice is that in books accompanied by photographs, women in particular are often described as being real beauties and such, and I look at the pictures and say "Huh?" and just don't get it. Most photos simply do not show the spirit that enlivens beauty, usually. And then there's that "eye of the beholder" thing; no getting around that. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? _____ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 23:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: SV: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at Yes, at that time even she mentioned she was wearing all those "false eyelashes and black eyeliner," like Marlo Thomas in, 'That Girl,' and yet, Joni wear's it very well. Marlo Thomas nor Mrs. Onassis has nothing over her. Jeannie Marion Leffler wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} No, Jean, not nowadays she isnt but if you look at pictures taken in the sixties and early seventies her eye make-up is very accentuated  but of course that was the fashion then. Marion - --------------------------------- Fren: jeannie [mailto:dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 07:57 Till: Marion Leffler; 'Kate Johnson'; joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: SV: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at I differ with you in opinion concerning Joni's use of make-up. I mean, shhe's not drenched. Just like her paintings, she's never brusque. Well, on her self-portraits like Vincent's, she does some rough brushstrokes there! But Joni blends colors exquisitely, to me. Peace to you, Marion, Jean NP: Third World Man--Steely Dan Marion Leffler wrote: You're so right, Kate! What I find special about Joni's looks is that she looks so different in different photos and even more so when you watch her on dvd/video. Also, I don't know of any other artist who let herself be photographed/filmed without any make up on! (Of course, at times she does wear make up - a lot of it at that!) Have a nice day, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Kate Johnson Skickat: den 2 maj 2007 02:19 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: a dog to look at, a goddess to look at On 1-May-07, at 4:21 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Don't feel bad, Catherine--my dad always felt the same way towards > Joni's > music. And while I'm at it, he also thought she was a DOG to look > at (!?!?!). There is no explaining taste in looks. I know a guy who thinks Diana Krall is g.o.r.g.e.o.u.s. while I think she is plain and even homely. Same goes for the late Princess Diana. The media made such a big fuss about her being beautiful, but I thought she had a way-too-big shnozz and was nothing special to look at, just pretty in a plain-jane kind of way that good clothes and hairdressers will do for a girl. Some kind of mass hypnosis thing going on, maybe? Kind of the way boys with guitars are sexy, and when they're not playing, girls don't notice them? Joni has had periods in her life when she was stunning, and others where she wasn't. I think this is more realistic. And most of us can probably relate to it much better on a personal level. I have had days when I could knock socks off, and days when I might as well have been the socks. Another thing I notice is that in books accompanied by photographs, women in particular are often described as being real beauties and such, and I look at the pictures and say "Huh?" and just don't get it. Most photos simply do not show the spirit that enlivens beauty, usually. And then there's that "eye of the beholder" thing; no getting around that. Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #134 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)