From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #103 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 4 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 103 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's Rare Recordings [Catherine McKay ] Digesting the Fest ["Happy The Man" ] Links to my remastered albums [Dave Blackburn ] Joinfest Thoughts [gpkm6208@comcast.net] Jonifest -- Steve ["Barbara L" ] Re: Keyboard players in Chart music today ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Joni & Bonnie Trees [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni's Rare Recordings [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Jonifest next year [Motitan@aol.com] RE: Coyote's in the coffee shop! ["Richard Flynn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's Rare Recordings - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Hello Joni friends. > > Well, the cat's out of the bag. Many of you got to > hear some very rare > Joni recordings at the Jonifest. I have been sitting > on this secret for > almost a year now. I hate keeping secrets so, it's > been a pain not to > be able to talk about this stuff but, I gave my word > and that's always > important to me. > > In June last year, Joey McGowan wrote to me to ask > me to design some CD > covers for some recording that he had in his > collection. He said these > recordings had never been heard by anyone before, > possibly not even > Joni. > ... > > Joey's intention was to make up CDs and distribute > them to JMDL > members. Two CDs went out to a couple of people but > he was immediately > contacted by Joni's management and asked to stop. > They are deciding if > they want to put together a retrospective box and > include these > recordings. > Thanks for that, Mark. In addition to being able to hear these early and never-before-released-even-among-bootleg-trading-freaks, we did pass around the cover you had designed - done once again with your classy style. If you're not already doing this sort of thing for a living, I really think you should. And I really hope Joni DOES put all this stuff together and release it. Anyone who has have heard Joni live concerts and various boots will not believe how different some of this stuff is. The recordings with the Siegel-Schwall band sounded like they were meant to turn Joni into a pop princess. Very 60s sounding and her voice was quite different than the one that ended up on STAS and Clouds. She sounded very similar to Judy Collins. There were also some recordings of songs that none of us (at least I don't think any of us) has ever heard sung by Joni before, including "Strawflower me" (and I think there was at least one other.) I'm not sure what I make of Chuck's claims and am not sure if it's appropriate to discuss it in writing. I think it comes down to a he-said/she-said sort of thing and what happens when the mists of time and what you want to believe change what really happened into a memory of what you think happened. Too bad we couldn't all get together in person and discuss! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 08:38:33 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Digesting the Fest Wow! Before I further on down the road, let me start with those hours of sleep deprivation from JoniFest that I planned to catch up on the flight home to Austin which were quickly dispelled by a woman vomiting 6" away from me in a packed flight for four hours. Sorry to be so graphic, thankfully the house was empty when I got home and could sleep in. What causes a long time lister who thought JoniFest was a great idea when it was first discussed to wait some 9 years to attend one, (insert your comment here). What the hell was I thinking? And then when Paz was unable to attend, well okay enough of the regrets. Ashara thanks for being a tremendous spirit that gives and thanks for the welcome and you look marvelous darlin, marvelous, and oh so Happy wait that's my moniker. ;) From the moment I picked up Patrick and Mike P (and they didn't shoot me for crossing the Hudson a few times too many) it was a wonderful journey. I think only Adriano's luggage had a better journey. Though the trip took at least an hour more, the opportunity to visit was, well, priceless. So.what was I prepared for? Whatever my preconceived ideas were (and I try not to have any) it was electric.and as Bob said and I will use Joni's lyric to surmise, "Saying laughing and crying You know it's the same release." Oh and Smurf you send me. I'm just thinking I could go on and on about the performances in which I fell in love with everyone starting with Jenny (such a sweet sweet spirit). And as Jenny said and I'll admit, "Man isn't Les the complete package and his performances...agh! Your lucky I'm straight man :). Well enough about Les and the line's a mile long any way. I could talk for hours about all the amazing sets that were performed but I won't, just wait till it comes out on DVD :(. Though I have to say thanks to Kay, oh you tireless worker, oh and thanks again Jenny for the nod to her work, your music is hypnotizing and a needed treat yesterday afternoon. Catherine you don't need to apologize for anything your honesty, and especially your thin skin :) you were around your kindred spirits. The song circle was church for me. I spend so much time on the road living in hotel rooms that to be able to sit around and share communion with you was, (insert adjective here). I don't like naming people because someone is to be left out but Sue, Angela, Bob, Chuck, etc. Thanks. Really, thanks. It was in the song circle that I asked a woman to marry me while another woman was on my lap, yeah you can say it. Okay enough about me. I'm not good at goodbyes because I feel it's all a journey and this part of the journey was surreal and may I never wake up from it. Ashara I regretted not saying goodbye thanks for blessing, and prodding and encouraging and for just being you. Epilogue The ride home was the addition of Adriano and Les I. Thank you friends for hanging with me, and weaning me off the Joni Juice. Les your work is invaluable and some day your name will have it's own heading in Wikipedia.....had to check and make sure it wasn't already there. Sue Mc slouch down to Austin, I've got a stand up club I think I can book you at. Ang, what a smile and Bob M. oh so smittened. Well I look forward to continuing the magic at Kerrville (see you there Donna), and the Strings Attached concerts in July (more to come on that later). Peace, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:43:03 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Links to my remastered albums I had have to pull all the links to my remasters because they got cc'd/quoted in a posting to the whole list. Although I want everyone on the list to enjoy my work on the albums I am worried about liability issues. As benign as my intentions are (to use my talents to enhance the sound of a few Joni albums so we can enjoy them even more) what I am doing is legally speaking unauthorized duplication and carries a stiff penalty. So I'm unsure whether to make these available anymore. My asking that everyone previously own each album was intended as a bit of an affidavit should trouble appear, but it's not much protection. What's even more of a pain is that the lossless album versions take 4-6 hours to upload and I'd done three of them. I'll decide what to do about this. Sorry if you didn't get to download the albums. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:32:25 +0000 From: gpkm6208@comcast.net Subject: Joinfest Thoughts I wanted to have an opportunity to thank everyone for contributing to my fabulous time at the Jonifest. I hope some of you will remember me. I do not believe I contributed anything remarkable. I am not a musician, a singer or (maybe most importantly) as well versed as many/most of you are in music, especially that of Joni. I found out about the fest via the Joni web site and decided quite a few months back that I have been a Joni fan for too long to not go to an event that would have people with similar interests in her. I drove to the Full Moon from Philadelphia. I arrived sometime after 9 PM on Friday evening. I was very uncomfortable as I knew no one and I am not the best at socializing in a group of unfamiliar people. When I walked into the lounge/stage area I was immediately greeted and made to feel very welcome. I was more and more at ease as the fest progressed. I was very impressed with the extent of the talent and really enjoyed the "circle" sing along. My best times, however, were the times I spent talking to people individually or in small groups about their personal Joni experiences. Although I met many great people I am an absolute looser when it comes to remembering names so I will not bother everyone with trying to name individuals (except Ashara) I will just thank everyone for their individual contribution and all for their collective contribution. Ashara, I have been seeing your name since I originally decided to attend the fest. It was great to meet you and put "a face to the name". It was a great pleasure to finally meet you and I wanted to personally thank you for the time and effort you put into making this event so memorable. Peace to all, Gerry Kent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:25:35 +0000 From: "Barbara L" Subject: Jonifest -- Steve Hi Steve, was so good to see you post. You were worried about being gay--ok that is just funny. Thanks for your kind words--I enjoyed our talks during the fest Barbara >From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) >Reply-To: joni@smoe.org >To: joni-digest@smoe.org >Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #138 >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:00:12 -0400 (EDT) > >JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 4 2007 Volume 2007 : Number >138 > > > >========== > >TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >-------- > how my sudden sickness made my friends Joni converts [Joseph Palis > Jonifest >[s.r.shanahan@att.net] > FW: Message from Website ["Les Irvin" >] > RE : Nonesuch Website for upcoming Tribute [Bob Muller > Keyboard players in Chart music today [Andeemac2006 > jonifest weekend ["Kate Bennett" >] > Re: links to Joni Mitchell remasters ["Kate Bennett" > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 03:21:05 +0200 (CEST) >From: Joseph Palis >Subject: how my sudden sickness made my friends Joni converts > >Hi everyone, > > thanks for the long posts about the Jonifest. People like us who were >not there vicariously experience the warmth, the talent and the immense joy >floating in the air during those few days. I am so envious. > > Last week a couple of friends invited me to watch a movie with them. >After dinner, I got really nauseous and suddenly felt cold and clammy. Food >poisoning, I thought. My friend who is an MD have a more grim prognosis but >I won't bore you with that (although I I think it is just an overdose of >very 'heavy' films that I saw back to back: David Lynch's "Inland Empire" >and Cristi Puiu's "The Death of Mr Lazarescu"). > > So we ended up going home and because I felt guilty that I spoiled my >friends' fun by getting sick, I asked them if they want to watch a film at >home instead. So I ended up fishing "Woman of heart and mind" from my dvd >collection. I have not seen this docu in a long time and I found myself >loving it. But the more satisfying realization is that all my friends loved >it as well and now they want to borrow my Joni CDs. > > They are not exactly huge Joni fans although they know a thing or two >about her. Interesting for me to hear what sort of info they know about >Joni. And they found her early life in Canada as the most interesting, >riveting and tears-inducing of all. One remarked that seeing Joni speaking >about her life back then made it look like they are two very very different >people. Not just the voice difference but also the manner she has come to >adopt in later life. One other friend said that the use of songs to tell >her story is a unique touch while another said that her much later (and >presumably darker) voice is more characterful. > > After the docu and after talking about Joni some more, they said that >they never thought she is more talented than what they perceived her to be. >I am often very curious how people get to know an artist, idea, theory, >film, etc. for the first time and how subsequent encounters with those >texts made them form their opinions. WOHAM is indeed a good film for a Joni >intro, but by no means should it be the definitive or the last word about >Joni and her artistry. The politics of representation is such that some >aspects are more emphasized than others while leaving out details that may >be just as interesting (it is like knowing that Helen Keller is not just >this woman famously remembered for her physical limitations but as also a >radical socialist during her time). > > But Joni is Joni as we know her and I often wonder what she thinks about >the representations made about her. And what other info do we not know >about her that may paint a different picture that we have of her. > > Joseph > np: Paul Desmond "El Prince" > > >- --------------------------------- > Dicouvrez une nouvelle fagon d'obtenir des riponses ` toutes vos >questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expiriences des >internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Riponses. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 02:30:40 +0000 >From: s.r.shanahan@att.net >Subject: Jonifest > >This was my first Jonifest and I had so much joy and emotion running >through me, yes even some sadness, that I find it difficult to explain. I >was looking for inspiration and if anyone is stuck, the Jonifest is an >instant cure to get you going again. The Full Moon Resort is a beautiful >place and the food was so healthy and delicious. > >I had to laugh about Jenny and and me watching the video of Joni on Sunday > I knew most of the songs from Turbulent Indigo but seeing Joni sing them >I realized more how truely sad some of the songs were, i.e., Magdalene >Laundries. So Jenny and I took turns crying and then laughing about that >we were crying. And speaking of crying, the most fabulous and talented >Donna said that she cries everytime she hears Jenny sing and I really get >it. Jenny is such an inspiration. After the songwriting group, I wrote a >two page poem and I hope too to stay in touch with Jenny with my ideas. I >told Barbara but I was truely knocked out by her Loudon Wainwright songs, I >heard strains of Etta James, Julie Wilson, Lena Horne, Audra McDonald all >in Barbara's unique new way. Her let it all out approach was just what I >needed to hear. I know Joni is the goddess but there were a hell of a lot >of other goddesses (and honorary male goddesess) at the fest who deserve >recognition. I could go ! > on and >on but it would never be possible to cover everyone's unique talent. But I >have to say Monca is going places. What a fresh talent! I was so happy >to see young people like her and Nicki sharing who they were with us. I >was lucky enough to have Laura next door to me and sleeping off some jet >lag, could always hear her playing her sweet and soothing guitar. God, I >am going on, there was Chuck who played such grounding deliberate songs >that I had never heard, Patrick who always made me laugh and smile and I >can't get the Silky Veils of Ardor out of my head. I know I left some >folks out but believe me I have not forgotten any of you. > >Special thanks to Ashara who made me feel so welcome and making it all >happen and to Les and Kay who worked so hard making the sound system just >right for everyone and I loved Kay's songs too! > >Regarding my concern about being gay, I just have to say were there any >straight people there? : ) > >Everybody, keep writing and singing and remember you are capable of being >as great as you want to be! > >Steve from San Francisco > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:53:20 -0600 >From: "Les Irvin" >Subject: FW: Message from Website > >Copy Flavie on any responses. > >- -----Original Message----- >I am studying popular singing at the University of QuC)bec in Montreal and >i'm doing a research on women who plays guitar and the impact they have on >the masculine "image" of the instrument and on the idea the society have of >them. Maybe you have some clue for me about how Joni Mitchell made her way >through this male industry and about the role she had ( and still have ) in >popular music by inspiring a whole generation of >girls-guitar-player-composer... >I know this is a little bit intense, but we never know. >Thank you ! > >Name: Flavie LC)ger-Roy >email: flavieleger@hotmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:09:19 -0700 (PDT) >From: Bob Muller >Subject: RE : Nonesuch Website for upcoming Tribute > >close the CD.> > > It's actually the other way 'round, Joseph - River closes it. > > Bob > > NP: Matthew Sweet, "Thought I knew You" > > > > >- --------------------------------- >No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 22:29:49 -0700 (GMT-07:00) >From: Andeemac2006 >Subject: Keyboard players in Chart music today > >There practically non existant, in the first place, and some people call it >Midi Music or Eighties Music, Who would be in the top Five keyboard >players today amounst the latest 2007 bands ????????????? Mmmmm > >And yes there is nothing new about Guitar Bass and Drum bands nothing, it >has all been said in the 60's 70's and 80's Guitar music is music of the >Past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I yearn to turn the page and artists to come up with >something new without all this stumming and Pounding of Drums that are >Miked up to the hilt to sound so so powerfull > >The essence of my opinion is:- there is hardly no modern bands that could >sound like Depeche Mode or as good, but Depeche mode could give a very good >impression of a Bass Drum,s and Guitar band > >- ---------------------------------------------------------- > >I agree with all that we should wait to hear the final finished new Joni >album, not judge what couild be backing tracks and demo's, I have heard >three exellent new tracks. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 22:53:44 -0700 >From: "Kate Bennett" >Subject: jonifest weekend > >Thank you all for all of the wonderful stories of your weekend. I was >right >there with you - sounds, sights, smells, tastes, touches as you shared your >amazing stories. Kate > >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:11:23 -0700 >From: "Kate Bennett" >Subject: Re: links to Joni Mitchell remasters > >Just tried to download (april 3) but nothing is there. What am I doing >wrong? Techless in syv > > > Hejira > > > > Apple Lossless version > > http://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoeVdzcklrYUEwTVE9PQ > > Mp3 (320 kpbs) version > > http://www.yousendit.com/download/QlVoeVduQVNHa00wTVE9PQ > >------------------------------ > >End of JMDL Digest V2007 #138 >***************************** > >------- >Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org >Unsubscribe by clicking here: >mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >------- _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Keyboard players in Chart music today From: "Andeemac2006" > And yes there is nothing new about Guitar Bass and Drum bands nothing, it > has all been said in the 60's 70's and 80's Guitar music is music of the > Past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Well, early keyboard instruments go back to 266 AD or so.... so there is nothing new there, either. I would venture to say that more records are being made these days *completely* on keyboards than ever before. Check out "The Bird and The Bee"...they are Inara George (Lowell George's daughter) who sings and (sorry) strums guitar, and this other guy who does the whole rest of the band using keys. I believe The Beastie Boys did some trillion selling albums using synths. Madonna's albums-all synths. The Chemical Brothers, the list goes on, so I don't see how you can say there is any shortage of keyboard-based music. Guitars will never go away. Electric guitar, bass and drums is the sound of rock and roll. There is nothing like it. It has a human touch that keys have never been able to duplicate. And you will never find a plastic box that can do what James Taylor does on an acoustic. And despite the long (and relatively recent) history of the instrument, players come along and reinvent guitar technique from time to time. Kaki King, for instance. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:54:41 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: That post about the Fest Pt 1 OK, so now that I'm caught up I guess I need to start putting down some more comments about this wonderful Fest experience. I'll try to not repeat a lot of what I and others have said but some things were SO remarkable they bear repeating. The first bit of my trip was to fly in to Boston, where I was going to get a car and road trip with Bob Murphy. On one hand, that strategy doesn't make a lot of sense; after all, I could fly in to Albany as I have the last 2 times and have a 45-minute trip to Full Moon, but I liked the idea of a 4-hour road trip with one of the funniest guys I know, plus I couldn't very well let Bob ride his BIKE to the fest - he can't even make it around town without getting knocked on his ass. So I'm flying into Logan via Laguardia, and unbeknownst to me Curtis Sliwa, the Guardian Angels' founder, was on the same flight and there were lots of cameramen waiting at the exit to get his picture and film his entrance. Well, when I passed through the door, Murphy yells out "there he is" and I'm greeted with an array of flashbulbs. Pretty funny. After getting back to Bob's and changing clothes (my shorts and T-shirt, comfortable in SC, were definitely not going to cut it in the chilly Boston air), we set out on foot to do some sightseeing and meet up with one of my bestest bestest JMDL pals, Jody (aka "General Hooker"). The three of us had a fun time just walking around looking at landmarks and taking pictures (Bob has become quite the photog) and snagged some pizza and then some dessert and coffee. In what was to be a prophetic pic, Bob snapped a photo of himself under a sign at an Italian restaurant called "Trani". Sadly, Jody could not swing it to the fest this year so we had to say our goodbyes and send her back home. Friday AM Bob & I set out and after a couple of rush hour traffic jams we hit the open road and it was really an easy drive and a scenic one as well. For our soundtrack we were playing the new Amy Winehouse and Bob is right - it's a killer of a CD. (Tried to make me go to rehab...I said no, no, no....) Of course, the ONLY time I needed Bob to help with navigation was when Patti P called and he totally dropped the ball with helping me off the crazy roundabout. But we quickly resolved that and by lunchtime we were at the Full Moon. I saw many familiar faces and a couple of new ones - - and even though I had not been up to Big Indian since the '03 fest, I felt as if I had just seen all of these friends last week. Isn't that always a strange phenomenon? Part of the magic of Jonifest. Regarding the 'official' performances - I loved all of the performances, and as always there were OMG highlights. Jenny's set was awesome and included a knockout version of The Arrangement. Sue Cameron did a great original that I liked a lot and a VERY cool version of Carey with some of the tightest backing vocals ever, all the more amazing when they said they just put it together on the fly. Others have commented on Les Ross' set but it was a notch above even his own high bar if you can believe that, with his 90's selections like Yvette, Not To Blame and others. And it was SO great to have Sue Mac there THE WHOLE TIME. Her knowledge and execution of Joni's songs is nothing short of spectacular. Everyone has mentioned Dr. Laura's unplugged Dani California but it was awesome and her duet with Jenny on "Sisotowbell Lane" brought on the waterworks for me. More on performances later. As for my own set, I had signed up for a Saturday slot but had no idea what I'd be doing, and not being a musician I needed to draft someone to play. Lucky for me, Bob Sartorius (who is not Paco De Lucia but he ain't bad) consented to play and we picked out some songs that we thought would work. I ended up doing Slouching Towards Bethlehem, Hejira, and That Song About The Midway. Thanks a lot Bobsart for stepping up, and even more for the many hours we spent discussing Joni, Paul Simon, music in general and other topics. Conversation with you is a true treasure, and when you throw Les I & Mike Pritchard into the mix it's some amazing talk to be sure. Matter of fact, one of my favorite parts of Fest (although I do love it all) is the 'hanging out' and talking with all of you. Speaking of mealtime conversations, I have to step up and say that this year the Full Moon food was incredibly good. In years past I have been less than satisfied with all the vegetarian/tofu/lentils stuff and couldn't wait to get home so I could have a cheeseburger or something, but the food this year was excellent and even included roast beef and bacon for breakfast - the lunches were basically wraps, and there was always a wonderful soup, fresh fruit, and desserts to die for. I have been critical of this aspect of the Full Moon fests in the past but not this time. Additionally, since it was March and not August, we didn't have to deal with the sweltering sauna of the dining room - it was very comfortable all the time. And they kept their fresh organic Woodstock coffee going all day long - maybe THAT'S why I could function on 3-4 hours of sleep each night. OK, that's the end of ramble part 1. Bob NP: The Doors, "Take It As It Comes" (hey Monika, it's your favorite!) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:12:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: That Post...Pt. 2 Some other random comments: The weather was really nice - I was a bit concerned about being up in the Catskills in March, but it was very pleasant with highs in the mid-50's and sunny during the day. We had some rain on Sunday but it was not a real issue as we were watching videos in the Performance Space and other indoor activities. As much as the countryside is so nice and hiking is a great option, I just hate to leave the crowd to venture out. Speaking of the videos - that was really a nice activity. Ashara had brought three DVD's: the 1994 Intimate & Interactive, the '98 Day In The Garden and the '94 Nara Japan show. The first two I have had for awhile and the other I have seen only on YouTube , but I hadn't seen the first two in a while and I never get the chance to watch them with fellow Joni fans, so it was a treat to revisit them and especially be with those who have never seen them. It was as if Joni WAS there, and we would applaud when she finished a song and such. One very emotional moment was when she was introducing Facelift and addressed Myrtle saying "Mama, if you're watching this I love you very very much..." and it was a very touching moment in light of the events of the last couple weeks. Plus, since it was in the performance space they had the bar open and one of the GORGEOUS Full Moon bartenders was keeping my mighty mighty thirst quenched with some tasty cold beverages. Speaking of the Performance Space...let's see, what else went on there - on Saturday as others have said we did the combined Raffle and Joni Rarities listening party for most of the afternoon. I won a nice Dreamland poster that I was actually thinking of getting from ebay, so I'm anxious to put it in a nice frame and decorate my wall with it. And as has been said, in between the raffle giveaways, Joey shared a small portion of the archived recordings he has; live performances from 1964, Joni playing kazoo (or as Chuck and Ms. Ashley say..."KAYzoo") behind Chuck, and some very cool studio recordings with the Siegel-Schwall band, including a different sounding "Brandy Eyes" done in a rhythmic 3/4 beat and "Eastern Rain" with accompanying sitar and zither, and lots lots more. Hopefully in future fests we'll be able to hear more of these historic recordings - or better yet they will get their due release to the public. Big big thanks to Joey for making the 10-hour drive to share these with us. And speaking of performances, it would be impossible to post a complete fest report and not mention the Sugarpants routine, which I didn't really get but it didn't matter when Bob Murphy came out in FULL drag (we're talking feather boa, makeup, glitter, wig, fishnets, and a skin-tight zebra-skinned dress. Don't know about the undergarments and Lord knows I don't want to. He did a lip-synch of Ethel Merman singing "Everything's Comin' Up Roses" to "Baby Guzzi" (not to be confused with Baby Sully) and then Susan broke into the Abigail Breslin dance routine from Little Miss Sunshine. Not for the squeamish - I'm just sorry that John Waters wasn't there for this skit as all of his favorite elements were in full display. Speaking of Murphy - he did get me good as Jenny mentioned - when I requested Kay's "Eye's So Bright" (one of my favorite songs ever) he shouted out "No you're not" and it pretty much brought down the house at my expense. But that's OK, because A) I can laugh at myself, and B) I got even with him when we got back to his apartment - I'll spare you the details. And the road trip home from Oliveria to Boston was just as much fun as the one there, maybe even more so because we had so much new stuff to talk about. It was also exciting as I let Bob drive the rental car and he was playing the part of lead-foot Melvin so that I wouldn't miss my flight; well, not only did I not miss the flight, I got there so early I caught an earlier flight to LaGuardia. But I'm not quite ready to go home yet, there's still some more festivities to report on, people to thank, etc. So stay tuned. 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I'm glad everyone had such a good time, and I'm looking forward to Chris Marshall opening the Hatstand gallery for lots & lots of photos. Jimmy.........wishing Paz a belated Happy Birthday ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:29:16 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni & Bonnie Trees Hi A couple of TREE suggestions to help in the after-Fest blues: Currently on dime a dozen: Joni & James Taylor: Royal Albert Hall 10/28/70. I haven't listened to it yet, but I can tell you it has crystal clear sound You probably all have it, but this is partially an excuse to talk about Bonnie in a Joni-content post, LOL. I know there are quite a few Bonnie fans on the List. I myself have been a fan since I saw her doing afternoon shows at Universal Studios back in 75. Saw her a dozen times through the 80's and own over 30 bootlegs of hers. Not that it makes me an expert, just a big fan. I recently listened to 2 Bonnie shows that I consider outstanding and worth Tree-ing: Bonnie Raitt duo w/ her guitarist J L Schell : Ft Collins, CO 2/8/89 (from dimeadozen). This performance is after she recorded Nick of Time and probably before it got released, at any rate before she got a Grammy for it, which finally boosted her career. The feelings are very strange. I haven't quite defined it. Some mixture of despair, resignation, hope, I don't know but I think particularly on this show her emotional level is such that she borders on genius at times. I'll define genius as Joni-level for the sake of this post. In fact there is a cover of Song About the Midway followed by several comments such as "I'll gladly stop selling records if that makes Joni sell more" or something to that effect. Then at some point she gets angry at some folks for talking right in front of her, reminds you of Joni doesn't it? Well, 20 years is a long time to pay one's dues. I'm glad Bonnie made it but I have never felt this much emotion in her music after 89. Which again proves that starvation brings genius. Bonnie: Philly Folk Blues Festival 70-72 is another incredible set of performances which I traded with a Japanese fan, full of hope, kind of "sweet bird of youth" if you want but very musically mature. I'll be happy to send any or all of the above to the 1st lister who requests them, and can reoffer to the List. The 89 show fits on 1 cd 90 minutes. I could put it on 2 cds but I'd rather not, which means you will have to purchase a 90' cd to copy it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:57:52 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni & Bonnie Trees This is so funny. I just emailed a friend in SF who is Jon Cleary's manager to ask if he could get Bonnie to donate a guitar (signed) or some other artwork or memorabilia for us to auction on May 3 during Jazz Fest for the Renew Our Music Fund (see www.nomhrf.org for more history on what we do). We have several Herman Leonard original fotos and Annie Leibovitz as well as a signed one of a kind Gibson Les Paul signed by The Edge from U2 to auction off on May 3 between the jazz fest weekends. I will be posting on the details of this very cool initiative to raise money for Renew Our Music. Bonnie and my pal Dennis Quaid have already done so much for us here in N.O. but I thought it would be a great idea to have something from her on this auction. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Apr 4, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Laurent Olszer wrote: Hi A couple of TREE suggestions to help in the after-Fest blues: Currently on dime a dozen: Joni & James Taylor: Royal Albert Hall 10/28/70. I haven't listened to it yet, but I can tell you it has crystal clear sound You probably all have it, but this is partially an excuse to talk about Bonnie in a Joni-content post, LOL. I know there are quite a few Bonnie fans on the List. I myself have been a fan since I saw her doing afternoon shows at Universal Studios back in 75. Saw her a dozen times through the 80's and own over 30 bootlegs of hers. Not that it makes me an expert, just a big fan. I recently listened to 2 Bonnie shows that I consider outstanding and worth Tree-ing: Bonnie Raitt duo w/ her guitarist J L Schell : Ft Collins, CO 2/8/89 (from dimeadozen). This performance is after she recorded Nick of Time and probably before it got released, at any rate before she got a Grammy for it, which finally boosted her career. The feelings are very strange. I haven't quite defined it. Some mixture of despair, resignation, hope, I don't know but I think particularly on this show her emotional level is such that she borders on genius at times. I'll define genius as Joni-level for the sake of this post. In fact there is a cover of Song About the Midway followed by several comments such as "I'll gladly stop selling records if that makes Joni sell more" or something to that effect. Then at some point she gets angry at some folks for talking right in front of her, reminds you of Joni doesn't it? Well, 20 years is a long time to pay one's dues. I'm glad Bonnie made it but I have never felt this much emotion in her music after 89. Which again proves that starvation brings genius. Bonnie: Philly Folk Blues Festival 70-72 is another incredible set of performances which I traded with a Japanese fan, full of hope, kind of "sweet bird of youth" if you want but very musically mature. I'll be happy to send any or all of the above to the 1st lister who requests them, and can reoffer to the List. The 89 show fits on 1 cd 90 minutes. I could put it on 2 cds but I'd rather not, which means you will have to purchase a 90' cd to copy it. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:16:27 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Joni's Rare Recordings Just one? There were ten of them. Thank you, Catherine for your kind words. I would love to do this for a living. Unfortunately, I am a Nurse. I find it is a good balance. There's not much room in Nursing for artistic expression. If they do release a retrospective box, it probably won't happen for some time since there is a new album being released soon. From a marketing point of view. I tried to make these covers appropriate to the recordings. Although the Photoshop effects and filters are modern, the photographs used were either from the actual performance or from the same year. I also included an acknowledgement to Jamia Zubairi as caretaker of Joni's art for an early sketch that I included on one of them. My favourite is an early photograph of Joni and Chuck performing at the Chess Mate. It was a very bad quality photograph so, I created brick wall and put the photo behind a window to give the illusion that you are standing outside the Chess Mate, looking through the window at them performing. There is even an original promotional poster for the Chess Mate, advertising their performance. It has been a lot of fun designing these covers and I am so grateful to Joey McGowan for this rare opportunity. Mark in Sydney NP Riverbed Dry - Everything But The Girl On 04/04/2007, at 10:41 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Hello Joni friends. >> >> Well, the cat's out of the bag. Many of you got to >> hear some very rare >> Joni recordings at the Jonifest. I have been sitting >> on this secret for >> almost a year now. I hate keeping secrets so, it's >> been a pain not to >> be able to talk about this stuff but, I gave my word >> and that's always >> important to me. >> >> In June last year, Joey McGowan wrote to me to ask >> me to design some CD >> covers for some recording that he had in his >> collection. He said these >> recordings had never been heard by anyone before, >> possibly not even >> Joni. >> > ... > >> >> Joey's intention was to make up CDs and distribute >> them to JMDL >> members. Two CDs went out to a couple of people but >> he was immediately >> contacted by Joni's management and asked to stop. >> They are deciding if >> they want to put together a retrospective box and >> include these >> recordings. >> > > Thanks for that, Mark. In addition to being able to > hear these early and > never-before-released-even-among-bootleg-trading-freaks, > we did pass around the cover you had designed - done > once again with your classy style. If you're not > already doing this sort of thing for a living, I > really think you should. > > And I really hope Joni DOES put all this stuff > together and release it. > > Anyone who has have heard Joni live concerts and > various boots will not believe how different some of > this stuff is. The recordings with the Siegel-Schwall > band sounded like they were meant to turn Joni into a > pop princess. Very 60s sounding and her voice was > quite different than the one that ended up on STAS and > Clouds. She sounded very similar to Judy Collins. > > There were also some recordings of songs that none of > us (at least I don't think any of us) has ever heard > sung by Joni before, including "Strawflower me" (and I > think there was at least one other.) > > I'm not sure what I make of Chuck's claims and am not > sure if it's appropriate to discuss it in writing. I > think it comes down to a he-said/she-said sort of > thing and what happens when the mists of time and what > you want to believe change what really happened into a > memory of what you think happened. > > Too bad we couldn't all get together in person and > discuss! > > > > > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 20:55:50 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Jonifest next year I am in the process of getting my pictures developed from this year's fest. I will post them for the attendees and non-attendees on my My Space page (providing a link once again). However, next year I want to step it up. I got this idea driving home this year. Next Jonifest, I am going to bring my video camcorder and tape a part of the festivities. I will then edit it down and make a Jonifest-umentary! I'll try to make it funny with captions or more serious with Joni music playing at appropriate times. I won't record any performances or anything all the way through but I'll get clips of things here and there and piece it together. Maybe I'll have a set of questions to ask everyone and so forth. What do you think? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:00:27 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Coyote's in the coffee shop! Patti's Joni OCD reminded me that I had something for the list. I know there has been much speculation in the past about the identity of Coyote, biographically speaking. While you were all at Jonifest, I was traveling all that week: first to Minneapolis, where I gave a paper at the Bob Dylan Symposium, and then to Nashville, where I gave a paper at the Modern Critical Approaches to Children's Literature conference in Nashville and got to see a great Lucinda Williams show at the Ryman. In any event, at the Dylan conference I was chatting with the poet Anne Waldman who was on the Rolling Thunder tour. She was extolling the virtues of Joni Mitchell. And she mentioned "Coyote" as a great favorite. I said to her that Joni wrote that song on the tour and asked if it was about Sam Shepard (a good friend of Waldman's) and she said, "Definitely." I told her I was going to tell this list and she said that was ok. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Patti Parlette Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:43 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: njc, Coyote's in the coffee shop! Dear Joniamigos: Won't you please come to Chicago -- Coyote's in the coffee shop! "CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- For one day, at least, the roadrunner was safe. It seems the coyote was hankering for another kind of fast food. Employees and customers at a downtown Chicago Quiznos sandwich shop were stunned to see a coyote walk through the propped-open front door Tuesday afternoon and lie down in a cooler stocked with fruit juice and soda." You can read a bit more and see the one-minute video here: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/04/chicago.coyote.ap/index.html Poor little guy. He looks so scared! He's too far from the Bay of Fundy From appaloosas and eagles and tides And the air conditioned cubicles And the carbon ribbon rides Are spelling it out so clear Either he's going to have to stand and fight Or take off out of here Love & Peace, Patti P., relishing *all* of your Fest tales and stories and impressions and emotions and abstractions -- wunderbar! Applause, applause! _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:50:09 -0400 From: passscribe@aol.com Subject: Reflections on JoniFest Hi, gang, Although I'm at my cousin's place in Port Orange, Florida, I had to hack into his computer to see what's been posted lately. Hate to miss anything after being on such an emotional high with such great people for several days. First of all, to Catherine: I believe any JoniFest post certainly should be taken as having Joni Content as the fest wouldn't have happened if Joni had not been who she is/was. In addition, it's really all about Joni, even though there may be some non-Joni songs presented from time to time. So, now it's my turn to click on my email from a strange computer (a -GASP!- PC... egads! I'm a Mac person) and check out what happened on Sunday... so sorry I had to leave early that morning and miss the performances that night. Glad to hear that new-to-LMDL Monika performed and, even more important, enjoyed her experience at the fest... it is magic, isn't it? I remember, after attending my first fest (in 2003), going home and telling everybody I talked to about the weekend (as Monika did) and getting the same reaction ("Okay, Ken... it was great... we get it"). Also happy to hear that Steve (from San Francisco) found his first fest visit to be a memorable event. It's the kind of thing we need to keep us all going for a while, Kenny B (Okay... how do I send this thing now...... ? Ah, there it is.....) ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:11:01 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Jonifest Thoughts i'm going to post a fuller report later, but i have to say that i had a wonderful conversation with jerry on saturday (at dinner i believe) and, as often happens, made a new friend. i'm going to be down in philly i a month or so, (jerry, i'll send you the info later) and hope to meet up. it's still astonishing to me, after nine or so years, how many remarkable people i've met and shared great experiences with because of this list. and joni! patrick np - Zehra Bilir, Sen Bu Yaylalari (on kcrwmusic.com) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of gpkm6208@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:32 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joinfest Thoughts I wanted to have an opportunity to thank everyone for contributing to my fabulous time at the Jonifest. I hope some of you will remember me. I do not believe I contributed anything remarkable. I am not a musician, a singer or (maybe most importantly) as well versed as many/most of you are in music, especially that of Joni. I found out about the fest via the Joni web site and decided quite a few months back that I have been a Joni fan for too long to not go to an event that would have people with similar interests in her. I drove to the Full Moon from Philadelphia. I arrived sometime after 9 PM on Friday evening. I was very uncomfortable as I knew no one and I am not the best at socializing in a group of unfamiliar people. When I walked into the lounge/stage area I was immediately greeted and made to feel very welcome. I was more and more at ease as the fest progressed. I was very impressed with the extent of the talent and really enjoyed the "circle" sing along. M! y best times, however, were the times I spent talking to people individually or in small groups about their personal Joni experiences. Although I met many great people I am an absolute looser when it comes to remembering names so I will not bother everyone with trying to name individuals (except Ashara) I will just thank everyone for their individual contribution and all for their collective contribution. Ashara, I have been seeing your name since I originally decided to attend the fest. It was great to meet you and put "a face to the name". It was a great pleasure to finally meet you and I wanted to personally thank you for the time and effort you put into making this event so memorable. Peace to all, Gerry Kent ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #103 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)