From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #99 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 2 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 099 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Myrtle's (full-length) Obituary [javaluvr@mts.net] SV: Case of you interview ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Re: Rickie Lee Jones--Joni content ["AJ" ] Re: Rickie Lee Jones, Kurt Elling [frednow@aol.com] Just back from JoniFest 2007 (kinda long) [PassScribe@aol.com] Case of you interview [] Just Back From JoniFest 2007 (kinda long cont'd) [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Case of you interview ["AJ" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 04:14:58 -0700 From: javaluvr@mts.net Subject: Myrtle's (full-length) Obituary Hi everyone - I've been reading about the sad passing of Joni's mom, and came across her (full-length) obituary, which I don't think has been posted here. It goes into more detail about her life. Anderson, Myrtle Myrtle Anderson 1912-2007 It is with sadness that the family announces the death of Myrtle Anderson occurred on Tuesday March 20th 2007. Myrtle is survived by her husband Bill, daughter Joni Mitchell, granddaughter Kilauren Gibb, two great grandchildren Marlin Kohler-Gibb, Daisy Gibb, niece Sandy Wood, nephew David McKee and their families. She was predeceased by her parents, and her three brothers Lyall, Gordon and Howard. Mrytle was born on May 24th, 1912 in Heward Saskatchewan to parents James McKee and Sarah Jane Henderson. She grew up on the prairies and took her early schooling at Creelman. She later traveled to Regina to complete her training as a teacher at the Normal School after which she taught at a number of small rural schools. In 1942 she was working for a bank in Regina when by introduction of a friend she met a young RCAF flyer named Bill Anderson. They fell in love and were married within the month in Medicine Hat. During the war years Bill and Mrytle were stationed at a number of bases in western Canada including Calgary, Yorkton and Ft. McLeod Following discharge Bill secured employment with Shelly Brothers Wholesale and began developing the business which took the family to Maidtsone for 3 years, North Battleford for 7 years and as Bill moved up in the company, finally to Saskatoon which became their permanent home. Mrytle was a kind and thoughtful wife, mother and friend. She will be lovingly remembered and dearly missed by her family and friends. Funeral Services will take place at Saskatoon Funeral Home on Tuesday March 27th, 2007 at 2:30 pm. Email condolences may be sent to mail@saskatoonfuneralhome.com Arrangements have been entrusted to SASKATOON FUNERAL HOME. Published in the Saskatoon StarPhoenix from 3/26/2007 - 3/27/2007. http://www.legacy.com/Can/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=86966274 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:29:06 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Case of you interview Angst is a German word meaning fear, apprehension, anxiety. Marion, German-born - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Randy Remote Skickat: den 31 mars 2007 20:59 Till: missblux@googlemail.com; Joni LIST Dmne: Re: Case of you interview From: > Angst? I guess I need to look that up too! It doesn't help that it > simply means anxiety in Danish.... I'm not sure what the dictionary definition is, but it is usually used in the phrase "teenage angst"- that is, adolescent rebellion, ala Nirvana (the band) or punk rock, or James Dean. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 09:16:18 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: Re: Rickie Lee Jones--Joni content ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Palis Not aware of RLJ's "The Swimmer" album -- were you referring to "The Magazine"? Yes, it is "The Magazine." My mind is not the same as it once was. . . . You have to tell me which album of Kurt Elling he recited your poetry! I like Kurt Elling a lot and I maintain that he is on the same level of improvisational skills as Mark Murphy and Jon Hendricks and probably just a step behind Eddie Jefferson. He is a very erudite man and read that he used to teach in a college setting. Here's a link to a review of it, as well as a review of a jazz tribute to Joni Mitchell! http://www.wwuh.org/program/articles/julaug99/jazzrev.htm My real name (as opposed to my internet name) is Aleda Shirley, and that poem was from my second book, Long Distance. --Aleda (AJ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:05:01 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: Rickie Lee Jones, Kurt Elling I love a lot of Rickie Lee Jones' music, but most of all her 2003 album The Evening of My Best Day, a masterpiece from every perspective. Kurt Elling is a friend of mine, a very talented musician, and he recorded the song While You Are Mine, music by me and words by Kurt, on his album Flirting With Twilight. All best, Fred - -Fred Simon http://myspace.com/fredsimon - -----Original Message----- From: JMDL Digest To: joni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 2:00 am Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #134 Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Re: Rickie Lee Jones Hi AJ, Interesting to see how we seem to like the same music. Not aware of RLJ's "The Swimmer" album -- were you referring to "The Magazine"? I like "Pirates" a lot as well as her debut album and also I own "Girl at her Volcano" on CD. I got mine as a Japanese import -- definitely an album worth having if only for "Rainbow Sleeves", "My Funny Valentine" and "Something Cool" (which I heard her sing live early last year here in Carrboro). I like RLJ a lot and I was hooked on her music even before I became a Joni fan, so I view them in almost equal terms. Almost because I slightly prefer RLJ over Joni (in the same way that much as I truly love Joni's HOSL with such a passion, my first real love is really "Blue"). You have to tell me which album of Kurt Elling he recited your poetry! I like Kurt Elling a lot and I maintain that he is on the same level of improvisational skills as Mark Murphy and Jon Hendricks and probably just a step behind Eddie Jefferson. He is a very erudite man and read that he used to teach in a college setting. I like music interspersed with poetry especially if it thematically cohere with the album's concept. Elling has done that in the past, as well as Andrea Marcovicci who reads Edna St. Vincent Millay, Dorothy Parker and Anne Frank with such academic passion, actorly intensity and with a verve and vim that are just so irresitible to my ears. Joseph in CH ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:08:44 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Just back from JoniFest 2007 (kinda long) Hi, all, I returned home from Oliverea at about 2:30 this afternoon (would have been sooner but stopped for a few pictures and a piece of pizza on the way). There may be other reports from the fest on this post before mine but since I will not know of them, I won't be able to comment on them. My wife & I leave for Florida early on Tuesday but I'll try to check in again later & sometime tomorrow (Monday). Whenever I go to an event of any kind, I try & psych myself up and get mentally into the experience right from the start so a JoniFest is no different. I spent Wednesday & Thursday at our son's place near New Paltz (upstate NY) and helped him on a couple of projects before heading out for Full Moon on Friday morning. I'm not fond of long NYS Thruway drives so I had planned on taking the "scenic" way to Oliverea from my son's place (it may take a little longer but it's much more interesting). Rt 55 across the Shawangump Mountains & Lake Minnewaska State Park had some nice views and I stopped to snap a couple of pix; then it's up along the Rondout Reservoir into the Catskill Mountains and State Park (there was still some snow and ice on the lakes since it still gets down to the 20's at night up there.) Missed the turn for Rt 19 and crossed over the Neversink Reservoir before realizing my mistake so I doubled back and found the correct turn (would be nice if they put a sign to let you know Rt 19 was there) then headed up alongside the Neversink River and onto Rt 47. The stretch from there to Oliverea is particularly beautful with very few houses and lots of rapids from all the snow melt. Had to slow down for a flock of wild turkeys crossing the road (no, not the Bourbon kind) and continued on. By now, I was about half-way into the live Shadows & Light CD in the car stereo and feeling really good, knowing I was getting close to all those JMDListas. About 12 miles from Full Moon, the road makes a hairpin turn to the right and I spotted a grand waterfall on the left side of the road. Had to get out & grab a couple of shots; the river is on the other side of the road, and is pretty wide at this point, but still has lots of rushing water. Very pretty country here my friends. I passed a stone castle up on the hill to the left; I think it's part of the Frost Valley WMCA camp complex (another photo) then a gradual climb up the southern side of Slide Mountain. Just as I hit the summit, and saw a beautiful vista to the east, the Persuasions and Joni hit the end of the song "Shadows & Light", culminating with that deep harmony & organ, (I always get goosebumps listening to that great sound) and I said to myself, "YES! Perfect timing. Another JoniFest experience." After a VERY steep decent down the north side of Slide mountain, I drove a few more miles and saw the buildings at Full Moon on the left. Pulled in, got out, went inside and was greeted by Ashara, Catherine (from Canada), Sue McNamara and Susan Guzzi. Ah... it felt good to be back. (Oops... time for dinner. More to follow...) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:58:47 -0700 From: Subject: Case of you interview Bene, You always come up with some good stuff. Angst to me is emotional regrets or unrequited personal longings or ambtions. It can always be a lost love and it can also be a lost opportunity or a conflict with what life's paths have chosen for you that you may not have necessarily chosen for yourself. It is the emotional hubris that comes from frustrated hopes or goals. But those feelings can still spur one on to continue to have hope and strive to fulfill their dreams or goals. Joni is in a bit of denial if she thinks there are two stages of ages where it can happen and it is better to have it happen young. Young or old, angst is not easily resolved. Deb wrote "I think she said you give yourself bursitis. And this was such a revelation to me. I've started getting all these aches and pains, including shoulder pain. I chalked it up to old age, but I am definitely experiencing late-blooming angst, so that must be the culprit." Ha! I can so relate. In particular - I was sent to a top specialist who, after MRIs, X-rays and other consultation told me I have "frozen shoulder" which "is common to middle-aged women." He told me, (he thought helpfully) " I see at least one middle aged woman every day who has this, we don't know why they develop it,and it is an area of interest to us in research, but we can treat it with physical therapy." I blame all my aches and pains on having worked in litigation for 22 years ;-) but maybe it is some other old unresolved angst! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 23:05:42 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Just Back From JoniFest 2007 (kinda long cont'd) Hi, again, A few follow-ups & corrections from my earlier post: heh-heh-heh... forgot to sign my name (this is Kenny B). And also on hand to greet me at Full Moon was Kay Ashley, Sue Cameron, Jenny Goodspeed and Patrick Leader (hope I didn't leave anyone out but forgive me if I did.) I'm bound to leave something out or make a mistake but someone will probably make the correction in a subsequent post. Okay, so after checking in, I chatted with everyone there & met a few newcomers/first time Fest-ers (!?) One of the things I love about Full Moon is the fact that the main building is a really cool old house with a piano on the enclosed side porch and another (old white) piano on the enclosed front porch. At various times of the day, you may hear someone playing on either one and I find that so intimate and candid. Shortly after getting there, Kay mentioned that she hadn't played piano in a long time and proceeded to delve into some nice classical pieces. A little while later, Catherine mentioned that she hadn't played in a long time before managing to produce some nice stuff on the old white piano. I met newbie Mike Walsh (from Harrisburg, PA) who had heard about the waterfall up the road and was about to take a hike to see it; he asked if I wanted to join him. I had already been there in 2003 but I needed the exercise & tagged along. We walked a mile and a half (each way) and then Otter Falls is a couple hundred feet off the road (an easy hike through some hills and snow and just far enough that you don't see or hear cars or the road). I last visited this spot with Anita and Steph (from England) and Bob Mueller and Kay Ashley (who rolled up her pants and waded in, up to her knees) last time there. It was as nice as I remembered it but no Kay cooling her heels this time. (For future reference, it's at utility pole # 167 1/2). Friday night at the performance hall, I watched as some folks practiced before Jenny Goodspeed took the stage with another of her solid performances. (Oh, please don't ask me to remember all the songs that were played... I went through a bottle of Coppala Claret and some house Cabernet Friday night and a bottle of J. Lohr Seven Oaks Cab the next night). I remember Les Irwin playing fine guitar behind some great vocals. Unfortunately, I didn't take many photos Friday night because I saw a lot of other folks shooting & figured I'd see theirs eventually and download some if necessary. Bob "Smurf" Murphy must have shot a couple hundred pix each night. The flash on my point & shoot digital camera is not very powerful so I need to get very close; all my better cameras are SLR film-type that I haven't used in quite a while. The result of this is that I'm having trouble remembering all that took place & who else performed because I don't have too many pix to refer to. Jill Haas was supposed to go on next but she had been delayed (flying from Seattle to JFK and then renting a car and making a few wrong turns); when she finally arrived, she supplied some backing vocals to some other performers. Donna Binkley played guitar and sang a few songs but her spot-on vocals on "I Think I Understand" were EXCEPTIONAL (with feeling, perfect phrasing and timing). Les Ross, from Scotland, did an extended set by popular demand and his guitar work was totally amazing. The Friday night Song Circle was just a grand time. Lots of beautiful acoustic guitar work from those assembled and some fun sing-alongs. I left the hall at about 12:30-1 AM and they were still going strong over there. Saturday after breakfast, I took the ride into Woodstock with "Smurf"; he needed to pick up a few things that only a larger store might have (not that Woodstock has many larger stores but there IS a CVS and a variety of smaller ones.) We also stopped to see some friends of mine that live just outside of town to the north that I hadn't talked to in about 15 years. Woodstock is dying; there's no growth and what little was there is slowing fading away. But I degress... Ashara had asked us to be at the performace hall after lunch for something very special; she wasn't kidding. Aside from raffling off the many items donated by various people, something no one could have imagined took place. One of the fest attendees (forgive me but I don't remember his name but I'm sure someone else will include it in their post) had contacted Chuck Mitchell a while back and (to make a long story short) bought some second generation (from the original source tapes) copies of early Joni performances. Some are with her ex-husband, others are Joni alone. But these recordings have NEVER been made available before (some were not even known to Joni) and we were given the opportunity to hear them for the first time. The only problem is that (due to legal matters) these recordings can not be copied and given away or sold at this time. What matters is that we were afforded a rare glimpse into Joni's early performances and recordings and I know everyone greatly appreciated this kind gesture. There was a nearly full moon above this year's JoniFest at the Full Moon resort, as we prepared to go over to the performance hall. Saturday night's performance schedule found Angela Gold opening with some phenominal guitar work & vocals. Next, Bob Sartorius did a solo number and then a couple with Bob Mueller on vocals and Chris Marshall on bass. We also heard from Sue McNamara, Bob Mueller and Sue Cameron, all of whom did outstanding performances. Barbara Little was next and, frankly, I think this woman belongs on Broadway. Totally knocked my socks off, I'll tell you that. Following Barbara was the 2007 edition of Sugarpants, and a special appearance by Bob "Smurf" Murphy. I don't know if I (or anyone else) should tell you what transpired in this act without you seeing the pictures. All I can say is that it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience... for Smurf AND the audience. On the downside, I have no pictures of Smurf's performance in MY camera. On the positive side, I shot the whole event using Smurf's SLR digital camera so there ARE photos of this spectacle that should be made available as soon as Smurf gets home and downloads them. I REALLY hope someone got it on video with sound; otherwise, those of you who were not there will never be able to fully appreciate what went down. Somewhere along the line, during one of someone's more up-tempo songs, Donna Binkley asked me to do a Texas Two-Step with her. Well, I've never been to Texas and don't know a two-step from a four-iron so we just Lindy-ed and Swung ourselves into the night. Too bad the duck pond was still frozen over or we could have gone moonlight skinny-dipping afterward. The Song Circle Saturday night was something I'll never forget: Angela, the human juke-box played nearly anything anyone suggested. Another gentleman who's name I've forgotten played some very sweet guitar on a few tunes; Chuck Eisenhardt (who arrived late Sat morning) played some keyboards; Kay and Sue McNamara played some guitar... all while we sang everything from Joni to CSN to REM to Led Zep. REALLY! Jill Haas pulled a dulcimer from a case and Kay proceeded to play that too while we sang along. Wow! What a night. The circle gradually shrunk in size until there were about six people as I left at about 3:30 AM for some well-needed sleep. By the time I got up Sunday morning, I nearly missed breakfast but managed to score a piece of French Toast, some pastery and fruit before packing to leave. I promised Ro I'd be home to share the rest of Palm Sunday with her as we pack and get ready to leave for Florida on Tuesday (Spring Break for Ro's school) to visit my cousin in Port Orange. The day started off sunny but became overcast as I took the "scenic" route home, south along Rt 47, over Slide Mountain again, past an old wooden covered bridge, then Rt 42 down to Rt 17 (the "Quickway"). Driving through some of the small upstate NY towns and villages before hitting Long Island was a nice gradual way to come back to the "real" world after spending such a "utopian" weekend at the JoniFest (and, I've said it before but I'll say it again) with some of the greatest people in the world. Thanks for another fabulous weekend, folks, Kenny B P.S. If anyone would like some pictures emailed to them Monday, let me know ASAP as I'm packing tomorrow & gone for a week after that. Eventually, I'll try to post them on whatever site the list has available for that purpose. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 22:20:46 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: Case of you interview - ----- Original Message ----- From: > > Ha! I can so relate. In particular - I was sent to a top specialist who, > after MRIs, X-rays and other consultation told me I have "frozen shoulder" > which "is common to middle-aged women." He told me, (he thought > helpfully) " > I see at least one middle aged woman every day who has this, we don't know > why > they develop it,and it is an area of interest to us in research, but we > can > treat it with physical therapy." Actually frozen shoulders can be caused from a number of things (even diabetes). I'm not sure I agree with the doctor that it comes out of nowhere. Both my shoulders have frozen (one twice) in the last couple of years (for other reasons). They can be successfully treated by a good sports orthopaedic doctor and good physical therapy, but the treatment, at least the initial part of it, is very very painful. (If you're interested in discussing this in more detail, please feel free to email me. Sadly, I have a lot of experience. I once kidded that the human shoulder alone is proof against the theory of intelligent design.) As for angst, I see it an a kind of old-fashioned concept (lots of characters in 19th century bildungsroman suffered from it), like neurosis and other kind of Freudian concepts. It's not depression, it's not melancholia--rather more like a kind of bored and paralyzing lassitude that descends on the youngish and (often) privileged. You don't see many Russian peasants suffering from it; it's usually continental aristocrats. Probably the best example of it in recent lit (if you can call this literature, and I don't) are the characters in Bret Ellis Easton, particularly "Less Than Zero." They were intelligent enough, but without direction and kind of wallowing in a kind of indulgent hopelessness. Good luck with your shoulder. A good dr. and therapist can help--they certainly helped me. - --AJ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #99 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)