From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #82 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 17 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 082 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Joni Mitchell songs are to be aired exclusively on BBC Radio 2 [M] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Re: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Re: Fwd: Don Alias "Remembrance" ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) ["Sherelle S] Song to a Seagull Remastered ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Victor Johnson ] Re: buddist? [Bob Muller ] Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered [Deb Messling ] Re: buddist? feminist? ["Randy Remote" ] Bob's Digest ["P Bear" ] Re: Bob's Digest ["Cassy" ] The Club 47 bootleg cleaned up for ya... [Dave Blackburn ] BBC2 Documentary ["Christopher Treacy" ] Re: The Club 47 bootleg cleaned up for ya... ["Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Re: New Joni Mitchell songs are to be aired exclusively on BBC Radio 2 Thank you so much, Les, for alerting us to this extraordinary event. It's only fair that us hard core fans should get a preview to the upcoming album. I will attempt to record this documentary, using Wire Tap which, records in AAC and then I will convert to mp3 with iTunes. That is, depending on the time. I think there is about 12 hours difference between Sydney and London so, it should air at around 8.30am Sunday morning. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:36:16 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered Wow! Dave, what a talent you have for sound engineering. I am hearing this album again for the first time. It is crystal clear. Joni's voice sounds so raw. Just beautiful. Thank you. Mark in Sydney NP I Had a King (Remastered) - JM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:19:45 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered Nice job Dave - sounds fantastic. I forgot how great STAS is - it been awhile since I listened to it. Thanks. What's your next project?? - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:50:57 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Hi dear Kakki! I made it back safely Wednesday evening and have been trying to catch up with email and digests ever since! You said it all so perfectly! Kurt Ellling was more than amazing...he was phenomenal! He made me feel so bad for not practicing my own vocal instrument more! What he does is perfection! I can't tell you how Bob Shephard's smiles made my night! To be that close to someone who toured with Joni was amazing! I have never seen Joni in concert nor have I ever met her so I live vicariously to all who have done these things. I'm glad we decided to pass on trying to meet him because he really was engrossed in conversation with this couple at the bar. Oh, but he was so close! Back to Kurt for a minute. I absolutely loved that song in which he wrote lyrics for his daughter! Pure poetry! I told my older friend Helen about him and she was very intrigued. I'm going to get her a CD so that she can check him out. Which one do you suggest? I have a surprise for you: I was supposed to meet up with a bassist friend of mine, Chazz Frichtel who plays with Chuck Mangione and was able to send off a quick email on my friend's computer letting him know I was in town and that I'd gotten to see Kurt Elling perform. He wrote back that he hoped his dear friend Bob Shephard was playing with him that night! He and Bob Shephard are the best of friends and Bob actually played on Chazz' latest CD "My Therapist's Couch" believe it or not! Talk about synchronicity! Bob plays on a song in tribute to the late Don Alias, also a dear friend of Chazz'. If you'd like to hear the song which is called Nao Palavras (No Words) click on this link: www.myspace.com/chazzfrichtel That was weird! Anyway Kakki, I just wanted you to know this and how special sitting at the Bel Air hotel was! I could almost see Joni and Van Morrison as you were describing things to me! I'm also so glad we just picked up where we left off after nine years! Good friends can always do that! I'll post about my trip to Santa Barbara and Santa Ynez with Kate in just a bit! Let me just say that I had a wonderful time with Kate and Jeff as well! Thank you for letting me visit you Kakki! You made my trip so special!!! Kakki wrote: The Divine Miss Sherelle is spending a week out here in California and we got to spend a wonderful time yesterday catching up. I haven't seen her since the first Jonifest in Pittsburgh 9 years ago. It was just fantastic to visit with her again. She is such an inspiration and good lady. I figured she might like to go see some jazz and magically my fave Kurt Eilling was in town with band playing at Catalina Bar & Grill. We scored a table right next to the left stage. Kurt was blowing us away and then announced a special guest - none other than the legendary Bob Sheppard on alto sax! Bob toured with Joni throughout the 2000 Both Sides Now concert. Sherelle just loved getting "close to Joni" in a sense and they were smiling back and forth a bit with each other. Bob and Joni's 2000 tour drummer Peter Erskine have both recorded on Kurt's albums. He really attracts the cream of the "cats." Jeff Clayton of the Clayton Hamilton Jazz Orchestra (the "house" jazz orchestra of the Hollywood Bowl) was also sitting behind us. It was some stunning music. Afterward I just had to take her by the Hotel Bel Air bar where we sat by the fire reminiscing and I walked her through the Van and Joni 1998 tour parties there ;-) We both kept saying how lucky and appreciative we have been to have made so many incredible friends over the years through this list. She took off on the coast train to visit Kate B. in Santa Barbara wine country this morning. I'm sure she is going to have many great tales to tell when she gets back home. Sherelle, thank you again for taking the time to meet up and please come back again! Kakki _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:54:31 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Paz, I wish you could have been there too, especially at the Bel Air Hotel! It's like I went back in time and could feel Joni all around! Kakki tells her story so wonderfully! I was mesmerized! Hope you are doing well on the road my friend! Thoughts and love are with you! Love, Sherelle Paz wrote: Sounds like you guys had a great time. Wish i could have been there. In Ft. Wayne Indiana to tonight and home tomorrow. Love Paz _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:03:42 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Fwd: Don Alias "Remembrance" Hi Paz, Chazz Frichtel mentioned this to me as well while I was in L.A. Thank you for posting! I had spoken to you about some sort of tribute to Don and am so glad to see this! You are probably going to be on the road. Chazz is going to try to make it there. This is a well deserved tribute that I hope gets recorded. I would love to spread the word about Don's life and music on the airwaves. Everyone needs to know what a great muisican and person we lost. Love, Sherelle From: Michael Paz HEADS UP NEW YORK CITY Best paz Begin forwarded message: From: Music@TundraEnterprise.com Date: March 10, 2007 11:29:08 AM CST To: Remembrance@DonAlias.com Subject: Don Alias "Remembrance" Reply-To: Music@TundraEnterprise.com Hello, On April 1, 2007, 1-4p, there will be a gathering to celebrate the memory and spirit of Don Alias. Please see: http://www.DonAlias.com/ for details. Hope to see you there. Tundra Enterprise _________________________________________________________________ Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:23:53 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Italian Joni Forum I don't know why reading this made me laugh. : -) What's up with those italians? From: "Pietro" Subject: Italian Joni Forum To all Italian Joni fans: go to http://jonimitchell.forumfree.net/. You'll find the first Italian Joni forum, a place to discuss and share thoughts about Joni's amazing music. Please join us! Thanks J _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:26:34 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: Sherelle and Kurt Elling and Bob Sheppard (Joni moments) Kate, Whenever I talk to others about my visit with you and hanging out at Cold Springs Tavern, I just go back in time to those moments! It was glorious! Each part of my trip was very unique and special so no worries! One wonderful Joni moment came when you took me to the entrance of the Santa Barbara Bowl where Joni gave her famous Shadows and Light performance. It was extremely special to me because Shadows and Light is my favorite Joni CD! To me it is the perfect concert and means even more to me now that both Michael Brecker and Don Alias are no longer with us. That Saturday morning on the train ride back to L.A., I played Shadows and Light in it's entirety on my MP3 player. I also played Court and Spark so I could hear the song, "Just Like This Train". It was so perfect! I could imagine Joni sitting in a seat like mine "Settling down into the clickity-clack". I had the ocean to watch and it was a beautiful sight indeed. I highly recommend taking the train ride from L.A. to Santa Barbara just for the sheer beauty of it! Make sure you sit on the left side of the train though! I can't even begin to tell you how beautiful I thought Santa Ynez was!!! I've been telling everyone of it's beauty! It literally took my breath away! Then to have the pleasure of meeting your beautiful animals was the icing on the cake! I will especially remember Zuma your horse and how happy he was once you brushed him over! I still laugh because he took this stance and attitude like the donkey on Shrek II (I'm a stallion baby!) I told you that I'd had a bad experience with an temperamental horse when I was younger so it was good that you helped me understand them better. It was a good experience for me. Cold Spring Tavern was like going to heaven! It was a small but wonderful place on the side of the mountain. Right before we left, Jeff showed me the spring next to the tavern which prompted it's name. Even though the water level was low, I could imagine how beautiful it was flowing full force. The Gendarmes of Swing were absolutely fantastic and added to the atmoshphere and the food was fantastic! I can't believe they were even able to serve us in such a small area but they did! Amazing! There is a video from Neil Young's song "Harvest Moon" that reminds me so much of Cold Spring Tavern. If anyone has ever seen that, you will get an idea of the beauty of this place. You could almost reach up and touch the stars. So beautiful! The valley was also very beautiful. Kate took me past David Crosby's home and then onto this road that led to a beautiful monastery facing a cascade of mountains. There were cattle walking about freely and the most serene and beautiful sights I'd ever seen! Santa Ynez is like heaven on earth! Thank you for sharing your home and your life with me for just a little while Kate! I will never forget it! Also, I had a chance to listen to your music and Jeff's music on the flight home and I am so blown away by them both! You both are poets! Please keep going, going, going with it! I'm so excited! I'll be in touch privately! Love, Sherelle Kate wrote: I feel the same as you Kakki. I'd not seen Sherelle since that first full moon fest (2002 I think it was) & it was so great to see her again. She had such fun with you & I was a bit worried that your hospitality & cool LA music adventures would be a hard act to follow. I picked her up in SB yesterday AM & we drove around some areas, along the beach, over to Montecito & the foothills, then back downtown to SB to have lunch. Then over the mountain to Santa Ynez. We drove around a bit more to see some of the beautiful countryside then went into a few of the shops in downtown SY (blink & you'll miss it!). For the evening, Jeff joined us & we went up to Cold Spring Tavern (on the mountain) to hear a Django Reinhart (sp?) style band that I'd heard before & thought she'd enjoy. I told her that Victor, Kakki, Richard (of GA), & the Dulson's had all set foot there at one point or another. What I love about the Tavern is in all the years I've been going there, nothing has changed one bit. It is an old stage coach stop from way back. We had fun talking to a man who had worked there 30 years ago told us how he'd (back then) met a 90 year old woman who came in & said it hadn't changed at all since she had been there as a kid in a buckboard! So that would have been 100 or more years ago! Nice to know there is one place that remains the same. Sherelle went back to the train this morning to visit another friend in LA. I look forward to the day when she comes back this way on her music tour _________________________________________________________________ 5.5%* 30 year fixed mortgage rate. Good credit refinance. Up to 5 free quotes - *Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5d&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=910 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:36:38 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered THANK YOU Dave and Jerry. . I am beginning to listen to it now. . it sounds clear. . it made me start thinking about hearing Joni up close. . and the clarity I may hear. . . I really imagined it. . and then that feeling started coming over me. . hysterical like. . : -) like the time I heard heard her sing amelia in concert. . I just broke down. . I wasn't expecting it. . . I just cried and screamed (I'm not a screamer. . : -) ) laughing about it now How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was singing and playing? Marianne Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:59:47 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered To all Joniamigos, After seven attempts and some back and forth consulting with my listening assistant Jerry Notaro, I have finally got STAS much closer to where it should be sonically. Given the rather extreme problems of the source (early 60's panning -dated by 1968 even- , harsh guitar tones, distorted vocal phrases, tape hiss and excessive chamber reverb along with withered tape stock before the source CD was originally transferred) there are still some unfixable problems but Jerry and I believe they have improved considerably. I had to resort to some pretty bizarre methods to get there but the results are here now for you to hear. I have encoded the files as highest bit rate mp3s instead of the AAC files I prefer as it appears many of you don't use iTunes, so there should be universal translation to your computer setup. From there you can burn a CD. As before, you must already own the CD before downloading; although I can't verify this I'm doing the honor system this time. Let me know if the revised sound works for you. thanks, Dave http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dmV0o2U1BRYTgwTVE9PQ _________________________________________________________________ Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:19:21 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was singing and playing? - ------------------------------------ Wow, that's a very interesting question and something I have never thought about. I think it would be like an out of body experience. You see, a concert in itself (to me anyways), is the greatest high you could ever achieve. Sure, some drugs are fun, and some things in life are fun, but nothing beats seeing a great concert....and to be right there man, wow. I don't know. I would probably just watch closely...watch her fingers and her style of playing much further. I don't think I'd even say a word until it was over and then afterward I'd try to chat. There are many things I'd be interested in hearing her opinion on. - -Monika ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:23:14 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered As I told David throughout this process the most important improvement is Joni's voice and lyrics are up front and crystal clear. It is like hearing it for the very first time. Sorry to sound like Madonna:) Jerry > THANK YOU Dave and Jerry. . > I am beginning to listen to it now. . it sounds clear. . > > it made me start thinking about hearing Joni up close. . > and the clarity I may hear. . . > > I really imagined it. . > > and then that feeling started coming over me. . > hysterical like. . : -) > > like the time I heard heard her sing amelia in concert. . > > I just broke down. . I wasn't expecting it. . . > I just cried and screamed > (I'm not a screamer. . : -) ) > > laughing about it now > > > How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as she was > singing and playing? > > > Marianne > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:59:47 -0700 > From: Dave Blackburn > Subject: Song to a Seagull Remastered > > To all Joniamigos, > After seven attempts and some back and forth consulting with my > listening assistant Jerry Notaro, I have finally got STAS much closer > to where it should be sonically. Given the rather extreme problems of > the source (early 60's panning -dated by 1968 even- , harsh guitar > tones, distorted vocal phrases, tape hiss and excessive chamber > reverb along with withered tape stock before the source CD was > originally transferred) there are still some unfixable problems but > Jerry and I believe they have improved considerably. I had to resort > to some pretty bizarre methods to get there but the results are here > now for you to hear. > > I have encoded the files as highest bit rate mp3s instead of the AAC > files I prefer as it appears many of you don't use iTunes, so there > should be universal translation to your computer setup. From there > you can burn a CD. As before, you must already own the CD before > downloading; although I can't verify this I'm doing the honor system > this time. > > Let me know if the revised sound works for you. > > thanks, Dave > > http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dmV0o2U1BRYTgwTVE9PQ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Live Search Maps  find all the local information you need, right when you > need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:46 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered On Mar 16, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > How would it be, do you think, if you were right next to joni as > she was > singing and playing? > ------------------------------------ > Wow, that's a very interesting question and something I have > never > thought about. I think it would be like an out of body > experience. You see, a > concert in itself (to me anyways), is the greatest high you could > ever achieve. > > That's exactly what it was like for me when I was sitting right in front of James Taylor as he sang "Sweet Baby James." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: buddist? Joni hasn't described herself as a Buddhist, but rather describes herself as an amalgamation of religions and philosophies. She has said that of the various religions she's studied, she identifies more with Buddhism than any other. I wouldn't say that's the same thing as calling yourself a Buddhist though. Bob, more nudist than Buddhist NP: Pippin Soundtrack, "Spread A Little Sunshine" - --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:07:38 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Song to a Seagull Remastered This is stunning, Dave. I thought that this disc was remastered officially some years ago - why didn't it sound this good? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:34:37 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: buddist? feminist? When asked about her religious views, for instance, she says: "I kind of see the beauty of the teachings of Christ you know, even though I turned Buddhist. And, of course, Jewish by injection." - -A Conversation with Joni Mitchell David Wild [Rolling Stone] May 30, 1991 http://jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=307 She has quoted the I Ching, the Bible, Desiderata, Zen and surely lots more in her songs and interviews, so I think it's safe to say she is not exclusively locked in to any doctrine. This interview also hit on the feminist subject: Thanks to the library elves for this stuff~~!!! Dylan made a pretty interesting comment regarding you a few years ago. Oh, I remember. He was talking about how he didn't like seeing women onstage, how he hates to see them up these whoring themselves. So he was asked, "Well, what about Joni Mitchell?" And he says something like "She's not really a woman. Joni's kind of like a man." [laughs] The thing is, I came into the business quite feminine. But nobody has had so many battles to wage as me. I had to stand up for my own artistic rights. And it's probably good for my art ultimately. I remember early in my career somebody wrote that my work was "effeminate," which I thought was pretty odd. So over the years I think I've gotten more androgynous - and maybe become an honorary male, according to Bobby. <.....> So you weren't offended? In a way he's right. Music has become burlesque over the last few years - video's done that. Every generation has to be more shocking than the last. But at a certain point you've got to reel it in because decadence ultimately isn't that hip. Our country is going down the tubes from it. It's rotten to the core. And I think women can be more than decorative. I mean, it's the same old thing actresses have been saying all along, that these are no good roles for women. Well, there are women creating their own roles, but they're creating such shallow roles I wonder why. Yet someone like Madonna can be seen as a feminist hero because she's exploiting her own sexuality rather than being exploited by some man. That's an interesting idea, but what's the difference between her and a hard hooker, you know? Who's being exploited there? She's reveling in herself too. But she can take it. I guess that's what it is. It's just being able to take it, you know. But would you agree that Madonna is the current archetype for the female performer? Well, she's a great "star." She's got that whore Madonna thing built in [laughs]. She's like a living Barbie doll but a little bit on the blue side. There's always been that type of female. There's always been a market for it, but the danger is that she thinks she's a role model. And it's a terrible role model. It's death to all things real. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:30:50 +1100 From: "P Bear" Subject: Bob's Digest Having enjoyed all messages posted by joni fans at Joni Digest - thank you Bob ! The best feature of this Digest is the liberalness - with some forums there is a cooler attitude - for me , there is disagreement to the followers of Georgie Bush's Arab butt-kicking quotient ! You know , as a fan I go back to the 1960's , about the middle there , having come from PeterPaul&Mary and Dylan and then of course Joni . Let me also mention Melanie Safka and Judy Collins and the great (MyFav) Joan Baez - who went on to become Lady Grumpy . Then I followed Joni again in the 70's , when she went into fashion ( I actually liked her fashion !) . You know , these Muso's and the Scene , and going onto the 80's , and Joni's change to Jazz or Jazz Folk . So many years and albums , and her music is still indulgent . And I would say even , that she is eccentric . And personally , I have a thing for flakey dames , and especially older ones . What we may have forgotten is Joni's knowledge not only of folk , but of traditional Folk . Did you know Joni spent many years studying the traditional instruments . And it would seem such a shame , if all that was lost . This should be told to her , because I don't know of anyone else who would consider this - a series on folk instruments and styles , and who better better than Joni herself . ( And of course we need to see the sensual Joni in this , if you know what I mean ) - the Bear - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Its simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:29:58 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Bob's Digest From: "P Bear" <<< the great (MyFav) Joan Baez - who went on to become Lady Grumpy . >>> Joan Baez is slated to tour with John Mellencamp in the fall. Warmly, Cassy NP: Jann Arden - I Would Die For You ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:08:30 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: The Club 47 bootleg cleaned up for ya... As requested by Mark Leon-Thorne I have gone through the Club 47 bootleg and cleaned it up as best as possible considering it's origins. Of course it's far from high fidelity but it's a lot better listen now I think. I deleted the tortuous minutes of guitar retuning but kept all dialog. Also the source of Cactus Tree was so degraded that I chose to leave it off since nothing I could do could help, but the 14 other tunes are there in what may or not be the correct order (Richard Flynn said no-one was really certain of the order anyway). So here you go: http://www.yousendit.com/download/T2dmYUlqVEhtUUUwTVE9PQ Cheers Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Subject: Joni and Folk (Re: Bob's Digest) - --- P Bear wrote: > ... What we > may have forgotten is Joni's knowledge not only of > folk , but of > traditional Folk . Did you know Joni spent many > years studying the > traditional instruments . Hello P Bear, If this is your first email, then welcome! I'm 4,500 messages behind (and not planning to read them all) so you may have written before but even if you have, everyone could use a hearty welcome once in a while. I'm now on dial-up instead of having my former speedy DSL connection and there literally is not enough time in a day to wait for each message to download so I'm missing a lot. So back to Joni -- where do you get the idea that she had a lot of traditional musical training? I'm curious. She's said that she had a few piano lessons and the teacher wanted her to learn the classics and Joni didn't want to, so that relationship didn't last very long. As a teenager she got a ukelele and a Pete Singer instruction book and that's how she learned to play ukelele and then guitar, and pretty quickly started using her own chords. So I don't think she's had much traditional musical training. Just enough to get her started, which seems to be her way of operating. But if you know otherwise, this is definitely the place to write all about it. > And it would seem such a > shame , if all that > was lost . This should be told to her , because I > don't know of anyone > else who would consider this - a series on folk > instruments and styles , > and who better better than Joni herself . ( And of > course we need to see > the sensual Joni in this , if you know what I mean ) It would be a shame if the knowledge of folk was lost, but Joni's not the person to keep that from happening. Just the contrary. She "improves" it (I think that's how she'd put it). Her reworking of traditional songs into Silky Veils of Ardor and Corrina Corrina are a couple of my favorites, but she considers them her own creations. I'm not sure about Corrina, but she makes no mention in the cd booklet of using traditional material for SVA. She takes and uses for her own purposes and isn't the person to preserve traditional styles of anything. One person that does respect folk traditions is Richard Thompson. For a while he was doing "1,000 Years of Popular Music" concerts, and playing in the different styles starting with the oldest. It was fascinating the way the sounds changed over the centuries. And impressive the way he could play guitar in all those different styles (but then, he IS the brilliant Richard Thompson). If you haven't heard it already, you may be interested in the live cd made during a couple of those concerts. He loves jazz, especially Django Reinhardt, but made the deliberate decision early in his career to stick on the "folk" path, and he knows ALL about it. Debra Shea NP: RT's Night Comes In ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:30:00 -0500 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: BBC2 Documentary Hey Gang, So - just so we're all clear, the 20th and 27th are Tuesdays - doesn't it say over the next two weekends? Assuming that Tuesday is right, does anyone know what time (US-EST) the stream will happen? Maybe I'm being dense, but I'll be seriously bummed if I goof and miss this somehow - stranger things have happened! Cheers, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:18:28 -0500 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Re: The Club 47 bootleg cleaned up for ya... Cleaned-up, remastered recordings are best circulated in a compressed, lossless format. Otherwise, if they circulate only in mp3, and are burned to CDs, this somewhat defeats the purpose of remastering, as mp3 is lossy and degrades the sound of the source files. The situation gets worse when someone burns a CD from the mp3s and someone else makes new mp3s from that CD, and so on... FLAC is the standard for compressed, lossless file sharing, and the preferred method of distribution for recordings like Club 47 is bit torrent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:46:22 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Joni=20Tours=2C=20Ltd=2E?= And i'd like to offer a topanga leg to this tour. lesli - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:40:19 -0800 From: To: Subject: Joni Tours, Ltd. >Patti P. suggested: > >"Someone should start a jmdl California tour business. You know how they do >the tours of Holllywood and >the homes of the stars?" > >Heh heh - don't tell anyone but we've been running the Joni tours here since >inception ;-) We have short, medium and full circle tours of the haunts and >landmarks available. Incredibly, I can count at least 25 jmdlers past and >present who have slept on my couch. (Now I have two couches but always put >people on the "jmdl" couch). The Blue bus is calling us and you are always >welcome in! > >Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #82 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)