From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #62 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, February 26 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 062 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: HOSL & Hejira ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: stinker first time [LCStanley7@aol.com] Another 'fake' signed album on ebay [Victor Johnson ] More downloadable Joni [Bob Muller ] Re: HOSL & Hejira [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Another 'fake' signed album on ebay [Victor Johnson ] joni videos at dailymotion ["Dr. Katherine Whited" ] come in from the cold ["Dr. Katherine Whited" ] Re: C&S first listening [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: C&S first listening [Doug ] Portland Ukulele Association [BRIANASYMES@aol.com] Re: C&S first listening [Catherine McKay ] Re: Portland Ukulele Association [Bob Muller ] Re: Portland Ukulele Association [Victor Johnson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:51:36 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Re: HOSL & Hejira Hi Monika, first, congratulations on your choices! You certainly have an exciting time ahead of you getting into these albums. As for reviews, I usually find it more useful to first listen to new cds without reading reviews. Reviews after all depend highly on the person writing them, whether or not he or she feels sympathetic towards the artist, their political views, the paper they write for. I remember after having listened to Blue when it was first released I read a review stating that Blue was just another product of an extremely self-centered artist with no compassion for "the people". These were the radical times of the early 70's, today the reviewer would probably sing a different tune... (Just to avoid misunderstandings - my political leanings are to the left, so I was quite upset with the review at the time since I really loved Blue - still do). Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: HOSL & Hejira > Well I went to the music store as as I said, and out of the 5 albums I > bought, I picked up Hejira and The Hissing Of Summer Lawns. I even > bought a new > cd rack and a live 1972 John Lennon concert video! It was a good day for > music shopping! Lots of deals man! > I gave HOSL a listen and started on Hejira but haven't finished it yet > (I feel bad for stopping an album before getting through it the first > time). > I'm in the process of getting ready to go out and meet some friends at > the > bar. I'll grab both the albums for the car and pop Hejira back in on > track 7. > However, even if you're not drunk, at some point when its late at night, > everything sounds and looks different either way. It's like a late night > haze > gets you...even when you don't drink! > Anyway, I shall get back to you on what I think of the albums. I'm > just > so excited to listen to them and begin absorbing them! I'll have to go > back > and reread the reviews of these albums on the JMDL website. I had read > them > before in passing but it's different once you know what they are talking > about! I'll have to recheck Amazon again as well. Anyone else have any > places > to read some reviews on these albums? Thanks in advance if you do. > -Monika, making herself late >


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I was on a camping trip with my best friend in high school who was playing a Joni album as she and I sat at the campsite with her family. I wasn't really even listening much to the album, don't even know which one it was, but her little brother complained about it and told her to put on Dylan. I was glad he did. Then my friend would play Joni when we were driving in her car and then in her house. And, I remembered kidding her about it... not Joni Mitchell again. That was my attitude, but I was growing to like Joni and didn't want to admit it to her. She gave me my first Joni albums, her old LOTC and CS when I went away to college. I tried to like them but was into other things and didn't listen to them very often. Then I was in a record store and saw Clouds. The art work captivated me so I bought it thinking maybe I should be more open minded about Joni Mitchell. When I listened to Clouds, I was captivated. I was playing about 8 hours of guitar a day back then, being reclusive and learning all of Dylan's albums. And, Joni's guitar on Clouds was so much better than anything I'd heard from Dylan. I tried to play it but couldn't replicate it because she was using alternate tunings and I didn't know what those were since I was new to guitar. Tin Angel was all could come close to figuring out. I remember the first time I heard Fiddler and the Drum, I felt the way you do when you expect the drive to make a turn and they go straight instead.... waiting, waiting for the guitar to come in. That song intrigued me. When Wild Things Run Fast came out, it was so different from other Joni songs I liked, I felt similar to when I heard Fiddler and the Drum. But, it is one of my favorite albums now. Joni expands me like this. And so does this list. Love, Laura ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:57:25 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Another 'fake' signed album on ebay This is getting ridiculous. This time, it's one of those records stamped "For promotional use only" and the seller writes like its a big deal that its stamped in gold. I can't count how many cd's I have that have the same stamp ( from my days working in a record store)..And then the signature itself is very odd. The "Joni" part looks much more like Join as the "i" is clearly dotted way before the "n". This time, in "Mitchell", the "e" was left out. I know some people have sloppy signatures but not Joni and she doesn't go around misspelling her name. There's also a stupid looking heart underneath the name which I've never seen either on any of her signatures. And the album is Dog Eat Dog. Give me a break... http://cgi.ebay.com/JONI-MITCHELL-SIGNED-Dog-Eat-Dog-PROMO-ONLY- ALBUM_W0QQitemZ120088813665QQihZ002QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Victor NP: Beethoven String Quarter in Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:29:38 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Another 'fake' signed album on ebay Definitely looks like another fake to me. Actually the heart is something that Laura Nyro almost always used when signing her name, although hers usually had an arrow through it too. She also rarely signed her last name, although I do have an early autograph of hers that I believe is authentic with her full name. The one I have is also on her first album though. In later years, I think she just usually signed "Laura" with the heart. This Nyro signature looks a bit more authentic although ya never know these days. http://cgi.ebay.com/LAURA-NYRO-FOLK-SINGER-SIGNED-VINTAGE-LP_W0QQitemZ150095676649QQihZ005QQcategoryZ61QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem But I don't ever recall seeing Joni's signature with a heart. Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit Victor Johnson wrote: > This is getting ridiculous. This time, it's one of those records > stamped "For promotional use only" and the seller writes like its a > big deal that its stamped in gold. I can't count how many cd's I > have that have the same stamp ( from my days working in a record > store)..And then the signature itself is very odd. The "Joni" part > looks much more like Join as the "i" is clearly dotted way before the > "n". This time, in "Mitchell", the "e" was left out. I know some > people have sloppy signatures but not Joni and she doesn't go around > misspelling her name. There's also a stupid looking heart underneath > the name which I've never seen either on any of her signatures. And > the album is Dog Eat Dog. > > Give me a break... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/JONI-MITCHELL-SIGNED-Dog-Eat-Dog-PROMO-ONLY- > ALBUM_W0QQitemZ120088813665QQihZ002QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Victor > > NP: Beethoven String Quarter in Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: HOSL & Hejira Like Marion said, you definitely want to give them your requisite (3) listens before you go digging into reading reviews...I think it's really difficult to not let them prejudice your opinion. After all, as far as you are concerned, YOUR opinion is the only one that matters. And as always Les has made it easy to find JUST the record reviews: http://jmdl.com/library/reviews.cfm?aid=valb8 Happy listening, and get back to us when you've had some time to absorb them. Bob NP: Joni, "Big Yellow Taxi (Double Expresso Mix)" - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Motitan@aol.com" To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:28:33 PM Subject: HOSL & Hejira Well I went to the music store as as I said, and out of the 5 albums I bought, I picked up Hejira and The Hissing Of Summer Lawns. I even bought a new cd rack and a live 1972 John Lennon concert video! It was a good day for music shopping! Lots of deals man! I gave HOSL a listen and started on Hejira but haven't finished it yet (I feel bad for stopping an album before getting through it the first time). I'm in the process of getting ready to go out and meet some friends at the bar. I'll grab both the albums for the car and pop Hejira back in on track 7. However, even if you're not drunk, at some point when its late at night, everything sounds and looks different either way. It's like a late night haze gets you...even when you don't drink! Anyway, I shall get back to you on what I think of the albums. I'm just so excited to listen to them and begin absorbing them! I'll have to go back and reread the reviews of these albums on the JMDL website. I had read them before in passing but it's different once you know what they are talking about! I'll have to recheck Amazon again as well. Anyone else have any places to read some reviews on these albums? Thanks in advance if you do. - -Monika, making herself late


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:56:44 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Another 'fake' signed album on ebay Personally, I would never buy something simply because its autographed. I think an item has much more meaning if it was autographed for me. Victor NP: Mace Hibbard - Lullaby for Alex .....an awesome saxophonist I saw last night, they were smokin! He teaches at GSU and has a new album! On Feb 25, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Gary Z wrote: > Definitely looks like another fake to me. Actually the heart is > something that Laura Nyro almost always used when signing her name, > although hers usually had an arrow through it too. She also rarely > signed her last name, although I do have an early autograph of hers > that I believe is authentic with her full name. The one I have is > also on her first album though. In later years, I think she just > usually signed "Laura" with the heart. This Nyro signature looks a > bit more authentic although ya never know these days. > http://cgi.ebay.com/LAURA-NYRO-FOLK-SINGER-SIGNED-VINTAGE- > LP_W0QQitemZ150095676649QQihZ005QQcategoryZ61QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > But I don't ever recall seeing Joni's signature with a heart. > > Best regards, > > Gary Z. > Detroit > > Victor Johnson wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:15:32 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: More downloadable Joni This itself was sourced from the vinyl boot _Lennie and Dom_ songs, which contained the studio versions of both "Hunter" and "Urge for Going" Doinker, the fellow who uploaded it to DIME, removed "Urge for Going" because it is has been officially released and DIME does not allow officially released material: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=124513 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:41 AM To: JMDL Subject: More downloadable Joni http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmmissi.html Most of us have this one but maybe some do not. It's got the complete version of "Get Together" on it, and for some reason they threw in the studio version of "Hunter" (which doesn't belong). This concert/recording was previously bootlegged as "Lennie & Dom Songs". Bob ____________________________________________________________________________ _ _______ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:33:48 -0700 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" Subject: joni videos at dailymotion Here are some Joni videos. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhtwl_joni-mitchell http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x185tz_joni-mitchell-both-sides-now http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhx77_joni-mitchell-peter-gabriel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:09:42 -0700 From: "Dr. Katherine Whited" Subject: come in from the cold Does anyone know where I can buy another copy of 'Come In From The Cold' ? It was pretty old (I got it in the late 90's) and I should have made a copy of it before it was destroyed by my VCR. Now I can't find another one anywhere. I've checked with local shops and the Internet, including eBay. The catalog number was GEFV 39512. If you know of any place that might have it, I would appreciate it. Katheirne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:20:23 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: C&S first listening > Kate Johnson > Subject: stinker first time > > I thought my first Joni album, C&S, was a stinker when I listened to > it the first time. I was $15 and had probably bought it because I'd > heard and liked Help Me on the radio. I was disappointed and thought > I'd wasted my money. I hated it. Two more listens made all the > difference ... well look, here I am, a stack of Joni CDs by my side > and C&S one of my absolute favourites. Since the day I bought it, > I've always made a point of giving a new CD three listens before > setting it aside. Imagine what I would have missed, had I not persisted. > Wow! The first time I heard Court & Spark was at my cousin's house; It was love at first listen! I liked it so much I made a copy on cassette tape right then and there. After getting home & playing it some more, I went out & bought it on vinyl; a few years later, I bought it on CD. Ever since the first couple of times I listened to it, it's been my favorite album. There have been times, though, (mostly with other artists) that I knew from the first listen that I was never gonna like an album. Kenny B ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:56:45 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: C&S first listening I liked C&S when I first got it, though I think I played side one more often than side two. What I especially liked was hearing Joni on the radio more often. This has had one drawback. When C&S was released I was working one of my first jobs as part of a team salvaging food from a burned-out warehouse. Whatever wasn't burnt or water damaged was packed in a truck to be sent to Toronto and sold in a discount food store. (note to Catherine: I hope you weren't shopping at Giant Tiger in 1974) This was the most disgusting job I ever had. I remember pulling bags of sugar out of the basement with rats running/swimming under the floor boards. And all the while the radio was playing over the PA with songs like Help Me and Car On A Hill. I still can't listen to C&S without remembering those "happy" days. Doug PassScribe@aol.com wrote: >> Kate Johnson >> Subject: stinker first time >> >> I thought my first Joni album, C&S, was a stinker when I listened to >> it the first time. I was $15 and had probably bought it because I'd >> heard and liked Help Me on the radio. I was disappointed and thought >> I'd wasted my money. I hated it. Two more listens made all the >> difference ... well look, here I am, a stack of Joni CDs by my side >> and C&S one of my absolute favourites. Since the day I bought it, >> I've always made a point of giving a new CD three listens before >> setting it aside. Imagine what I would have missed, had I not persisted. >> >> > Wow! The first time I heard Court & Spark was at my cousin's house; It > was love at first listen! I liked it so much I made a copy on cassette tape > right then and there. After getting home & playing it some more, I went out & > bought it on vinyl; a few years later, I bought it on CD. Ever since the first > couple of times I listened to it, it's been my favorite album. > There have been times, though, (mostly with other artists) that I knew > from the first listen that I was never gonna like an album. > > Kenny B > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 19:46:59 EST From: BRIANASYMES@aol.com Subject: Portland Ukulele Association At Today's meeting Mr. Van Buskirk played Marcie on a Concert sized Uke and won a prize for Sadist song. The really sad song was My Puppy Died but we all laughed through out it. The Best Performance was James Clem who played on a National that has a Resonator basically it looked like a Dobro Ukulele, he is to be found at _www.jamesclem.com_ (http://www.jamesclem.com) NP Joni and James singing together "You can close your eyes."


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:31:39 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: C&S first listening > (note to Catherine: I hope you weren't shopping at > Giant Tiger in 1974) I think Giant Tiger was an Eastern Ontario thing back then. I never even heard of it until about a year ago. Anyhoo, I was in Quebec in 1974, so it's all good. Heh-heh. Sounds like a gross job in any case. Too bad you get flashbacks when you listen to C&S. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:07:04 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Portland Ukulele Association I'm supposing you mean "saddest" song, Brian. Marcie would be a sad song, "Dancing Clown" would be a "Sadist" song. Bob NP: Bruce, "The Long Goodbye" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:58:29 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Portland Ukulele Association On Feb 25, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > I'm supposing you mean "saddest" song, Brian. > Marcie would be a sad song, "Dancing Clown" would be a "Sadist" song. Couldn't it be argued that Marcie was torturing herself and therefore it would be a Sadist song? Victor ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #62 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)