From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #51 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, February 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 051 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Raps on Mingus [missblux@googlemail.com] Forest Hills concert ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Shadows and Light / Pat Metheney [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Raps on Mingus [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] SJC (Slight Joni Content) JC (Judy Content) ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Shadows and Light / Pat Metheney ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Brian HInton was RE: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book [Catherine McKay ] Too Big For Me by Mathilde Santing ["Azeem Ali Khan" ] Re: FW: Message from Website [waytoblue@comcast.net] Saddest Song...or anthem? [Gordon G Mackie ] STAS....connected... [Motitan@aol.com] Fwd: FW: Message from Website [kenevans@umich.edu] Shadows & Light, Forrest Hills, Mingus raps misc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Jonifest [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Re: Question about Blue on Vinyl ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Jonifest [Motitan@aol.com] Joni reference [Motitan@aol.com] sjc, a Joni email from my son ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Jonifest [Bob Muller ] RE: Jonifest ["patrick leader" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:44:52 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Raps on Mingus Hi David I wrote a post a few days about Joni and rap - and now I understand form your email that she actually raps on Mingus? Or have I misunderstood you? And if she raps, why would you cut the raps away? I haven't heard Mingus yet, but its my next project, once I'm done with Shadows and Light. Sorry to start a discussion about an album I haven't heard, I just find this really interesting! Bene Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:00:37 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: HOSL and Mingus remasters Hey Joni amigos, While you wait (and wait) for official Rhino remasters to come out I am offering my own "widescreen edition" remastered versions of HOSL and Mingus, as well as DJRD which several of you already downloaded last month. I took the editorial liberty of omitting the raps from Mingus, but other than that the only changes have been sonic. I hope you enjoy them; please let me know. The links to the three albums can be obtained by requesting them offlist over the next two weeks. As before, you must already own the requested album to qualify. Dave Blackburn Beat 'n Track Mastering Fallbrook, CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:44:10 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Forest Hills concert Deb wrote: I was there, not in the second row, but in the nosebleed section, and it was still divine. I will never forget her stunning rendition of Amelia. The whole stadium was dead silent, except for random gasps. It was that beautiful. Yes it is a stunning Amelia indeed. Now you can relive this moment. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:16:13 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Shadows and Light / Pat Metheney Hi Sherelle, i love your passion for this album! To be honest, Pat Metheney somehow doesn't really captivate me, and I wonder why. I still need to listen to the album more though. My attention somehow drops a little when he comes on. I have an album with him and Charlie Haden, called Beyond the Missouri Sky. I got offended when I was first listening to it and my friend called it elevator music, but somehow, I don't really get the energy in it. Its melodic and playful and so on... I just would not bring it to my desert island. When I watched Shadows and light for the first time, and he came on to play a solo, I immediately thought, well this is a bit less exciting.... I hadn't realized that it was Pat Metheney and thought this was a less well-known guitarist. I don't know... Maybe I need to listen to him more! I'm always puzzled when I don't get music that others rave about... And don't get me wrong, this concert is amazing on a level I can't describe. Bene PS happy songs: someone mentioned The Beatles Here Comes the Sun. I miss that song! The feeling of sunshine in early spring when you hear it. I'm listening at the moment to another band which has a similarly sunny effect on me, maybe because they are South Africans. So for those of you who are on the northern hemisphere and fed up with grey days: http://www.myspace.com/bangtheband. If anyone listens I'd like to know what you think! Bn On 2/13/07, Sherelle Smith wrote: > Dear Bene, > > Thanks so much for letting me know what you think of Shadows and Light! I'm > so happy you feel the same way I do about it! Yes! Jaco and Michael do fly > together and Pat and Don's solos are heavenly! A friend I made in West > Virginia was at one of those shows that was taped. He said that the sound of > the Persuasions and Joni together singing "Shadows and Light" was absolutely > unbelieveable! He said you had to be there to truly feel how intense that > song was! Of course he had me drooling because this is my dream concert. For > me, a show doesn't get any better than this one! > > I'm so happy that your Jonifest went well! Claudia San Soucie had a mini one > when Michael Paz stopped in Baltimore last week and it was nice as well! > > Love, Sherelle > > > >From: missblux@googlemail.com > > > > >Hi, > > > >so there was a Jonifest taking place last Saturday afternoon in > >Hampstead, London! Participants were Laurent and his daughter Eve who > >some of you have heard singing, myself, and a man named Bob completed > >the picture, no Jonifest without one I guess! > > > >We spent a lovely sunny afternoon together, bought a lot of > >scarves(...), and I got my copy of Shadows and Light. > > > >I promised to tell Sherelle what I think of the music. I don't even > >know what to say.... > > > >It's VERY GOOD MUSIC! Jaco Pastorius and Michael Brecker together - > >they fly! They are so tuned together and so... I don't know, sometimes > >I want them to stop because it completely goes over my head. How can > >people play music like that??! > > > >I like her stage appearance. I suddenly understood why my friend who > >is a jazz singer used to insist on dressing very moderately on stage > >although she is really beautiful and could easily attract all the > >attention. She used to say that she wanted her voice to be one of the > >instruments, or something similar. She did not want to stand out any > >more than the sax or the bass. Same thing with Joni playing with these > >people: she shines, and its obviously her music, but the orchestra is > >not built up to lift her up on a pedestal. What a cool woman... > > > >Wow...! > > > >Benedicte > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy > Awards(r) http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:28:55 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Raps on Mingus They're referred to as "raps" but it's not the kind of musical raps you're thinking about. They are little snippets of Mingus' conversation (remember the 70's 'rap sessions'?), typically running a couple of seconds and relating to the song that follows them. Once you've heard them once, they're a bit of a nuisance in terms of enjoying the music on the album. Not a major deal to omit them from a remaster, I would say. Bob NP: Prince, "I Feel For You" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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As for the mixed feelings I have about learning more about Joni's personal life - it's not that I am afraid of ending up with shattered illusions since I do not have an idealised picture of her in my mind. It's just that up to now her music helped me to name my own feelings and make sense of my own relationships. Now when I listen to say A case of you I start to wonder who made her feel that way and also, after having learnt about her various relationships, why on earth she had such a poor taste in men? (I mean, James Taylor, for god's sake...:-). Thoughts like that interfer with my own soulsearching, but on the other hand they open up new dimensions. And oh - I hope you all had a a really nice Valentine's Day yesterday! Marion - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Flynn" To: ; "'Marion Leffler'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Brian HInton was RE: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book > Welcome, Marion. I'd be even harsher and say that Hinton's book is > actually > primarily a case of pastiche plagiarism from various journalists. Karen > O'Brien's is the best bio (though I haven't read Mark Bego's). > > Bob is right about the discography having been useful in its day. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:08 AM > To: Marion Leffler > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book > > book - what do you think? I got the impression that maybe it's not quite > correct, he makes a lot of assumptions?> > > Marion, firstly a belated welcome to the group, and I join the chorus of > folks who encourage you to continue chiming in as much as you like. > > As a Bob, I object to you referring to Brian Hinton as a Bob, but I'll > give you a pass since you're a newbie. :o) > > And you're right - his book is pretentious and full of assumptions, and > his biggest fault is that he doesn't even say "perhaps this song is about > so-and-so", but rather states that his opinion is fact. A fatal flaw, I > think. > > On the positive side, he has some nice appendices about her bootleg albums > and covers. I found that unique and actually back in the day he mentioned > a couple of covers that I was unaware of. At the same time he lists a > couple that are not valid (Barry McGuire & Sir Douglas Quintet among > others). And even the worst books about Joni are enjoyable on some level. > > Bob > > NP: Lucinda Williams, "Are You Alright?" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. 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Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:00:42 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Shadows and Light / Pat Metheney Hi Bene, I think the effect is different for me because even though I have seen the video once on loan, I have primarily only been able to listen to Pat's solos on Shadow and Light. I also have music/color synesthesia so for me, his solo is especially beautiful explosions of pinks and blues along with beautiful songs. It's the same everytime so when I hear it, I just have to close my eyes and listen. I think Pat's music is something you have to proactively get into as a listener because there are so many subltleties in it. I understand why it didn't grab your attention at first. It took me a long time to get into Don Alias' solo but now I love it. The fact that he is no longer with us (as is the same for Michael Brecker) gives it even more special meaning. I'm listening to The Bang right now and I hear what you are saying about the "Shiny", sunny sound. They are very uptempo and upbeat. I'm listening to the song "Shiny" now. I like the ballad they have up here as well. Sherelle >From: missblux@googlemail.com > >Hi Sherelle, > >i love your passion for this album! > >To be honest, Pat Metheney somehow doesn't really captivate me, and I >wonder why. I still need to listen to the album more though. My >attention somehow drops a little when he comes on. I have an album >with him and Charlie Haden, called Beyond the Missouri Sky. I got >offended when I was first listening to it and my friend called it >elevator music, but somehow, I don't really get the energy in it. Its >melodic and playful and so on... I just would not bring it to my >desert island. > >When I watched Shadows and light for the first time, and he came on to >play a solo, I immediately thought, well this is a bit less >exciting.... I hadn't realized that it was Pat Metheney and thought >this was a less well-known guitarist. > >I don't know... Maybe I need to listen to him more! I'm always puzzled >when I don't get music that others rave about... And don't get me >wrong, this concert is amazing on a level I can't describe. > >Bene > >PS happy songs: someone mentioned The Beatles Here Comes the Sun. I >miss that song! The feeling of sunshine in early spring when you hear >it. > >I'm listening at the moment to another band which has a similarly >sunny effect on me, maybe because they are South Africans. So for >those of you who are on the northern hemisphere and fed up with grey >days: http://www.myspace.com/bangtheband. > >If anyone listens I'd like to know what you think! > >Bn > > > _________________________________________________________________ Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Forest Hills concert From: Laurent Olszer >>>The solos are still there, just a small part missing Really? That's great. Someone in the comments section said Jaco's wasn't there, but perhaps he was just looking at the track list. (Pat's is listed as fading out.) Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:53:39 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Brian HInton was RE: 33 1/3 Court and Spark book - --- Marion Leffler wrote: It's just that up to > now her music helped me to name my own feelings and > make sense of my own > relationships. Now when I listen to say A case of > you I start to wonder who > made her feel that way and also, after having learnt > about her various > relationships, why on earth she had such a poor > taste in men? (I mean, James > Taylor, for god's sake...:-). Thoughts like that > interfer with my own > soulsearching, but on the other hand they open up > new dimensions. I get it. I was never all that interested in who Joni wrote any particular song about. I never even thought to ask. It was more what it meant to me (selfish being that I am!) I never knew much about the people behind these songs until I joined this list. Now I find it somewhat interesting, but more along the lines of, when you discover and admit to someone else that you have a particular health problem and they reveal to you that they've had the same thing, or their sister or aunt has, if that makes any sense at all. I feel like prying into her personal life is just a bit too voyeuristic. I can understand the feelings, because she has expressed things that I have felt, but I wouldn't want to ask her who she was talking about. If she volunteered the info to me, then I would feel privileged that she trusted me enough to tell me, but I wouldn't want to pry. I've read a few of the books mentioned, but only because people here might have recommended them. I generally find that "biographies" of celebrities tend to be very shallow in any case, but I've also been caught reading "People" magazine while waiting for the doctor or the dentist to see me. While I don't want to knock anyone that wants to know who song X or Y was about, because we all take different things from what we read or hear, and I suppose it can add a human dimension when you know, there were never any burning questions for me. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:54:08 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: RE: Forest Hills concert OK, between Deb and Laurent I'm sold (and downloading). It'll always bother me that someone thought Pat and Jaco's spots weren't worth including, but this is clearly a better version than Oklahoma (would that couple near the taper just SHUT UP!!) or San Fran, which are both pretty poor quality. Michael Flaherty The solos are still there, just a small part missing Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:22:45 +0000 From: "Azeem Ali Khan" Subject: Too Big For Me by Mathilde Santing Here's the lyric to this beautiful song, which never fails to move me. If you can get to hear it, so much the better, as it's the melody and the exquisite vocal performance that really makes it, though I think the lyric on its own ain't bad... Azeem in London NP: Maria McKee - Season of the Fair I still have memories of birthdays long ago you would light all the candles said the wind would help me blow as if I didn't know When I grew older there were sundays on the shore no more riding your shoulders we would talk and walk some more Goodbyes at my frontdoor At the top of the stairs I just found a pair of shoes too big for me probably right for you Tried your coat on in the hall touches the ground as I stand tall Too big for me Probably right for you I dreamt I saw you on a bus somewhere in town your eyes just fell upon me I stumbled and felt like a clown your eyes just tore me down You were my hero my sun, my rain, my moon And the few true loves of my life they look quite a bit like you those shoes might fit them too There's a box up in my room with gloves, a hat, a bow-tie too too big for me probably right for you Imagine me going to the ball races my heart, makes me feel like a fool for a one, two, three now won't you come dance with me Waltzing in circles my head on your shoulder Waltzing the room spins spinning my head Round and round and round and round we go At the top of the stairs I just found a pair of shoes too big for me probably right for you Tried your coat on in the hall touches the ground as I stand tall too big for me probably right for you probably right for you probably right for you ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:45:15 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Shadows and Light / Pat Metheney Hi again, and thanks for your mail. You know watching them perform is interesting because of the way they interact, but I closed my eyes today and thought how different it would have sounded if I had never seen them. It opens a whole new dimension. I don't have synesthesia though, I can't even explain what I see or don't see when I close my eyes. I'll try and think about it though. I envy you for it..! Someone said I should watch 'A map of the World', apparently Metheny made the music for it. My next project among many. I didn't know Don Alias had died recently - so that's half of them gone. Hey I'm glad you like The Bang! It feels like pretty simple music when compared to Shadows & Light. But it makes me happy :-) Benedicte On 2/15/07, Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Bene, > > I think the effect is different for me because even though I have seen the > video once on loan, I have primarily only been able to listen to Pat's solos > on Shadow and Light. I also have music/color synesthesia so for me, his solo > is especially beautiful explosions of pinks and blues along with beautiful > songs. It's the same everytime so when I hear it, I just have to close my > eyes and listen. I think Pat's music is something you have to proactively > get into as a listener because there are so many subltleties in it. I > understand why it didn't grab your attention at first. It took me a long > time to get into Don Alias' solo but now I love it. The fact that he is no > longer with us (as is the same for Michael Brecker) gives it even more > special meaning. > > > I'm listening to The Bang right now and I hear what you are saying about the > "Shiny", sunny sound. They are very uptempo and upbeat. I'm listening to the > song "Shiny" now. I like the ballad they have up here as well. > > Sherelle > > >From: missblux@googlemail.com > > > > >Hi Sherelle, > > > >i love your passion for this album! > > > >To be honest, Pat Metheney somehow doesn't really captivate me, and I > >wonder why. I still need to listen to the album more though. My > >attention somehow drops a little when he comes on. I have an album > >with him and Charlie Haden, called Beyond the Missouri Sky. I got > >offended when I was first listening to it and my friend called it > >elevator music, but somehow, I don't really get the energy in it. Its > >melodic and playful and so on... I just would not bring it to my > >desert island. > > > >When I watched Shadows and light for the first time, and he came on to > >play a solo, I immediately thought, well this is a bit less > >exciting.... I hadn't realized that it was Pat Metheney and thought > >this was a less well-known guitarist. > > > >I don't know... Maybe I need to listen to him more! I'm always puzzled > >when I don't get music that others rave about... And don't get me > >wrong, this concert is amazing on a level I can't describe. > > > >Bene > > > >PS happy songs: someone mentioned The Beatles Here Comes the Sun. I > >miss that song! The feeling of sunshine in early spring when you hear > >it. > > > >I'm listening at the moment to another band which has a similarly > >sunny effect on me, maybe because they are South Africans. So for > >those of you who are on the northern hemisphere and fed up with grey > >days: http://www.myspace.com/bangtheband. > > > >If anyone listens I'd like to know what you think! > > > >Bn > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Invite your Hotmail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:21:19 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: FW: Message from Website Ummmm... OK. Please copy Karen on any responses. - -----Original Message----- I am doing a research paper for a class. My paper is on "Big Yellow Taxi." I can't seem to find anything on the line, "...a big yellow taxi took away my old man" can someone tell me what this is a reference to? Name: Karen email: dancingk@jesusanswers.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:00:53 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: FW: Message from Website > I am doing a research paper for a class. My paper is on "Big Yellow Taxi." I > can't seem to find anything on the line, "...a big yellow taxi took away my old > man" can someone tell me what this is a reference to? I would think it means, Joni and her "old man", meaning lover, significant other, etc...live in a house. She wakes up, hears the screen door slam, and a taxi drives away with her old man in it. Maybe he's going on a trip and will be gone for a long time and she won't realize she misses him till he's gone. There's really no deeper meaning than the obvious one. example..."My old man is a singer in the park" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:02:31 +0000 From: Gordon G Mackie Subject: Saddest Song...or anthem? Oh say can you see? Nope. Gx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:26:10 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: STAS....connected... For the last week I have been listening to STAS extensively. The big difference from now and before is that I have listened to it more and it has "connected" with me. That's not to say, that I did not like it. I did actually like it upon first listen but felt a little distant from it. I hadn't developed that special connection that I have with some of Joni's other albums until recently! I mean, the songs, I did think were good, but they didn't speak to me until now! My favorites are Night In The City, The Dawntreader, and Cactus Tree (thanks to seeing the "pink dress" concert as everyone calls it here....Cactus Tree really did me in live there). Very nice album indeed. Solid debut. - -Monika, who is still waiting on Miles Of Aisles from the library....it was due on the 7th from the person who has it and he/she still has not returned it and it is killing me! I am so impatient sometimes man! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:15:28 -0500 From: kenevans@umich.edu Subject: Fwd: FW: Message from Website Well gosh, you know the song is about loss. The first two verses refer to loss of a healthy environment whenever there's new construction or use of chemicals in agriculture. (At least that's how her worldview and that of most folks on this list would see it, although quite ironic that she still loves steak since cattle-raising is one of the biggest environmental hazards.) Then to take it from the wider world back down to the personal, she throws in a verse about her old man slamming the door and leaving in a taxi. Pretty simple really. Around this time her old man was Graham Nash, and they didn't last more than another year at best. If you haven't heard her next album Blue, it's about time you do, cause there's the fallout. Maybe I should explain--- since you're doing this for a class I figure you must be pretty young--- that in those days, in hip circles, a lady's "old man" meant her guy, somewhere more serious than just a boyfriend but not necessarily a husband. (this was very amusing really) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:21:19 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: FW: Message from Website Ummmm... OK. Please copy Karen on any responses. - - -----Original Message----- I am doing a research paper for a class. My paper is on "Big Yellow Taxi." I can't seem to find anything on the line, "...a big yellow taxi took away my old man" can someone tell me what this is a reference to? Name: Karen email: dancingk@jesusanswers.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:54:40 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Shadows & Light, Forrest Hills, Mingus raps misc Hi All Sorry I 'm throwing in all the little 2 cents comments in this email instead of writing separate ones With regards to Pat Metheny, I understand too why Bene finds him "less interesting". Let me be frank, Pat has a tendency to put me to sleep. It all depends on what he's playing. I first heard Pat live on the French radio in 76 and was very impressed. I love the 70's stuff but some later cds can be boring IMO. Last time I saw him was in july 05 and it was beautiful but..i almost fell asleep at some point. That being said, Pat's solo on S&L is the most beautiful lyrical guitar solo I have ever heard anywhere by anybody. It was interesting to hear the solo on Forrest Hills as it came across as a "rehearsal" for the S&L one. They were very similar but "almost" as perfect. Michael you may be right about Jaco's solo missing in Forrest Hills, I'm not sure at this point ..but to me it does not detract too much. Regarding the missing raps on Mingus remaster, I find Bene's question very pertinent. I found it quite shocking that the raps were not included. Sorry Bob I disagree with you when you write "they're a bit of a nuisance..". To me Mingus just is not complete without them . Perhaps it's just an emotional thing related to my life in 79 when Mingus came out, but isn't Joni about letting emotions flow out freely? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:40:12 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Question about Blue on Vinyl I recently acquired a sealed vinyl copy of Blue I bought on eBay. It's a sealed gatefold and on the spine it has the number Reprise 74842. Then on the back cover it has MS2038 Reprise. But on the front cover there are two stickers - one that says 180 Gram HQ Vinyl/RhinoVinyl and the second sticker says Premium Vinyl Pressng HQ-180 RTI Record Technology. Is there anyone out there that may know more about this pressing? When I won the copy, I thought it was simply a sealed copy of the LP. No mention was made about it being anything special. The stickers on the outside of the shrink rather surprised me. Anyone in the know have any more info on this particular pressing? Thanks for any help! Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:45:46 EST From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Jonifest Just a quick reminder: All money, release forms, scholarship pledges, scholarship requests, completed registration forms, and donations to Les Irvin for JoniMitchell.com is due tomorrow! I can't believe we're this close! If you are ordering anything from the Jonifest store, this is also the time to do that. There are still beds available, so it's not too late to join us. What are you waiting for? Get off that fence and have the time of your life! See you soon, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Question about Blue on Vinyl Blue Joni Mitchell Label: Rhino Genre: Pop Product No.: ARHI 74842 Format: 180 Gram Vinyl One of the truly great recordings. An audiophile favorite for years. NOW MASTERED BY KEVIN GRAY and STEVE HOFFMAN at ACOUSTECH MASTERING and PRESSED AT RTI!!! Without a doubt, one of the most important and influential artists in all of contemporary music, Joni Mitchell is much more than a legendary icon of the singer-songwriter art form. Since her 1968 debut LP, the five-time Grammy winner has released a long string of stellar albums as emotionally powerful as they are stylistically diverse. This is her 1972 poetic masterpiece, now on 180-gram HQ vinyl. Featuring such memorable songs as "Carey," "All I Want" and "California." "This is a really wonderful album; Joni just laid it all out there for the world to hear. Brave, especially back in the dayI feel that this new version is the true giant killer. Unlike the original 1970's pressings, this new version was mastered without ANY added compression whatsoever, making it a true problem child in cutting (of our own making) but I wouldn't have it any other way. After many spoiled lacquer masters and one too many Altoids, it was finished to everybody's satisfaction. The effort was worth it. The bb and flow of the music is totally intact. Parts were cut, plated and pressed at Record Tech (RTI) and the actual 1971 Reprise master tape (as recorded and mixed at A&M Recording Studios) was used in disk cutting, bypassing the usual/"EQ'd and Compressed Cutting Master" completely. Unlike the DCC, most of the songs on this vinyl version were cut without ANY equalization at all so this will be the closest you will ever be able to get to the sound of the true master tape of Blue. It was exciting to work on and I'm sure it will please y'all."  Steve Hoffman, mastering engineer Track Listings 1. All I Want 2. My Old Man 3. Little Green 4. Carey 5. Blue 6. California 7. This Flight Tonight 8. River 9. A Case Of You 10. The Last Time I Saw Richard Gary Z wrote: > I recently acquired a sealed vinyl copy of Blue I bought on eBay. It's > a sealed gatefold and on the spine it has the number Reprise 74842. > Then on the back cover it has MS2038 Reprise. But on the front cover > there are two stickers - one that says 180 Gram HQ Vinyl/RhinoVinyl and > the second sticker says Premium Vinyl Pressng HQ-180 RTI Record > Technology. Is there anyone out there that may know more about this > pressing? > > When I won the copy, I thought it was simply a sealed copy of the LP. > No mention was made about it being anything special. The stickers on > the outside of the shrink rather surprised me. > > Anyone in the know have any more info on this particular pressing? > > Thanks for any help! > > Best regards, > > Gary Z. > Detroit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:51:17 +0000 From: s.r.shanahan@att.net Subject: Jonifest Hello wonderful Joni fans: I'm an old Joni fan in my early 50's. I've liked her since I was in my teens and tend to like her old CD's more than her new but enjoy it all. Anyway, I've decided to attend the Jonifest this year in homage to the great artist Joni Mitchell who has certainly had a large impact on my life. I wrote songs and poetry in my younger years and she influenced many around me. I'm hoping the Jonifest might spark the creative feelings I used to have and am looking forward to relaxing and enjoying the excitement and music. I'm also wondering what it will be like as a gay man at the Jonifest. It might be a bit cold for one but I'm hoping that other gay people will be out and open there since I can't imagine Joni would be anything but welcoming to gay folks. I've noticed some gay members on this list. Anyone who can offer some perspective would be most appreciated! Thanks for listening. Steve in San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:46:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Jonifest It will almost be like a Pridefest :) Plenty of all kinds of people, all accepting, all loving Joni. Jerry s.r.shanahan@att.net wrote: > I'm also wondering what it will be like as a gay man at the Jonifest. It > might be a bit cold for one but I'm hoping that other gay people will be > out and open there since I can't imagine Joni would be anything but > welcoming to gay folks. I've noticed some gay members on this list. > > Anyone who can offer some perspective would be most appreciated! Thanks > for listening. > > Steve in San Francisco ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:50:27 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Jonifest Hey Steve. Welcome. I don't know for sure but I think Jonifest is going to be a blast! I've never been to one either. As for people being open, well I don't see why anyone wouldn't be. It seems like a nice bunch here. Good times to be had as well! And I must say, I am very jealous of you because you live in San Francisco. It's a beautiful city. I went there the summer before this last one and can honestly say it was one of the best vacations I have ever been on. I miss it really. Welcome again! - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:58:38 EST From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Joni reference Rachel Fuller, Pete Townshend's girlfriend does an internet show called "In The Attic." Well, I guess they had a launch party for it and had some musicians play including the above. Rachel Fuller's a singer/songwriter type but in my opinion I'm not sure how serious she is about it. She seems to like to just hang around with Pete and play music when she gets the chance. She has had an album out though. Anyhow, out of the 2 songs she performed at this, she played Joni's "Blue." So...Joni's influence remains strong and true! - -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:03:52 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, a Joni email from my son I was very touched to get this email from my older son, who teases me incessantly about my Joniness: "Subject : Did you see #3 on this list? http://www.sixnewthings.com/ " It's about her ballet. Sweet boy. I wrote back and thanked him, and told him that we (the jmdl) are all abuzz about this already. LOL...this is the son who told me he heard (on CNN...yeah, right!) that Joni is going to be doing ONE concert, in Montreal, on June 30th. That's when he's getting married, so I told him (without skipping a beat) that I'm sorry, he'll just have to find another mother of the groom. We all have priorities! Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:11:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Jonifest It's not an issue at all, Steve - I'm straight and have probably been in the minority at the Jonifests (I've been to 8 or so) but I'm not really sure and anyway it doesn't matter in any way whatsoever. It is an atmosphere of joy and acceptance unlike anything I've ever experienced. You'll know what I mean when you're there. Glad to hear that you're gonna make it and look forward to meeting you. Joni fans rule. Bob The Bad Plus, "Silence Is The Question" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:31:45 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: Jonifest steve- i've been to nearly every event of this community that could be called a jonifest since 1998, as a very out gay man, and never had any issue at all. i guarantee you will feel comfortable. i'm looking forward to meeting you and hearing more about your love of joni etc. patrick in new york - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of s.r.shanahan@att.net Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:51 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Jonifest Hello wonderful Joni fans: I'm an old Joni fan in my early 50's. I've liked her since I was in my teens and tend to like her old CD's more than her new but enjoy it all. Anyway, I've decided to attend the Jonifest this year in homage to the great artist Joni Mitchell who has certainly had a large impact on my life. I wrote songs and poetry in my younger years and she influenced many around me. I'm hoping the Jonifest might spark the creative feelings I used to have and am looking forward to relaxing and enjoying the excitement and music. I'm also wondering what it will be like as a gay man at the Jonifest. It might be a bit cold for one but I'm hoping that other gay people will be out and open there since I can't imagine Joni would be anything but welcoming to gay folks. I've noticed some gay members on this list. Anyone who can offer some perspective would be most appreciated! Thanks for listening. Steve in San Francisco ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #51 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)