From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #16 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, January 20 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 016 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Street names in Joni songs [Victor Johnson ] Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Retro Covers, Volume 11 / wolfgnags vault ["ron" ] Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Joni's fans/a little long [Bob Muller ] Re: Hejira dirge [Paul In MD ] Re: how tall is Joni ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter... ["Michael O'Malley" ] Don Juan's Reckless Daughter ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] WOHAM ["Kate Bennett" ] Don Juan's Reckless Daughter ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Six Degrees of Joni [mags h ] Re: Six Degrees of Joni [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:41:55 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Street names in Joni songs I was thinking about the song Cotton Avenue and then started wondering what different street names are mentioned in Joni Mitchell songs: Cotton Avenue Bleeker Street Sistowbell Lane there are surely others... Then I started thinking of street names in music in general. Off the top of my head... Cotton Avenue (Joni Mitchell) Bleeker Street (Joni Mitchell) Sistowbell Lane (Joni Mitchell) 22 Acacia Avenue (Iron Maiden) 5th and Hennepin (Tom Waits) Baker Street (Gerry Rafferty) Main Street (Bob Seger) Broadway (Genesis, etc..) Penny Lane (Beatles) Electric Avenue (Eddie Grant) Piedmont, Juniper (Matthew Kahler) Thunder Road (Springsteen) Shakedown Street (Grateful Dead) Bourbon Street( Grateful Dead, Sting) Highway 41 (Allman Brothers) Route 66 (Bobby Troup) Mean Street (Van Halen) Ventura Highway (America) 4th Street (Dylan) Montague Street (Dylan) Victor NP: Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister (my favorite work from them by far) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:29:05 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter From: > I probably just don't get it but what would others say was her worst > album, > DJRD must be up there or thereabouts. > > Perhaps someone could explain? > > Even the Beatles produced a relative turkey in Let it Be, and about one > third > of the White Album is pretty bad. Musical taste is a funny thing. I love avocados, you think they taste funny.... I'd be overjoyed to create a turkey like Let It Be.....and disagree about the White Album, too...the whole thing is great (although George Harrison said it would have made a great single album, but what does he know?) As to DJRD, I think it would be my desert island pick- I just find it very deep and beautiful. Not something you would play every day, nothing casual about it, but one of Joni's underappreciated masterpieces, imo. I could nominate a worst Joni album (and have-her later stuff), but someone else will come up and say that's her best work (like Joni herself). RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:28:39 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Retro Covers, Volume 11 / wolfgnags vault hi >>>> going back a little while bob wrote >> And on it you willfind: > snip... >> 12. Kiki Dee - Carey and at wolfgangs vault you will find, possibly, kiki dee doing a cover of talk to me. http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/ConcertDetail.aspx?id=20050073|3844 or maybe not? i found it on the vault radio playlist, but cant seem to get the player to work.... ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:45:45 -0600 From: Bennett Brier Subject: ISO Boot of Joni Tribute @ Carnegie Hall 2/1/06 Surely someone knows where I can find this! If so, thanx in advance and please email me @ bbrier@austin.rr.com. BB http://www.musicforyouth.org/joni/ and here: http://www.musicforyouth.org/news.html#joni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:08:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Retro Covers, Volume 11 / wolfgnags vault I got the player to work, and it was not Joni's "Talk To Me". I wasn't surprised - the only souls brave enough to tackle that one have been Ian Shaw, who puts a little different spin on it, and me stumbling through it at Jonifest - luckily I had guitar goddess Marian backing me up, that alone gave me the confidence to try it. It is a damn hard song to sing - the "Romeo Romeo" line is almost impossible to get in synch with. Joni makes it seem so easy. Thanks for the heads up just the same, Ron - much appreciated. Bob NP: Radiohead, "Optimistic" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 01:19:07 +0100 From: Danilo Monno Subject: RE: Street names in Joni songs Old Beale Street or just Beale Street, I don't know...> To: joni@smoe.org> From: waytoblue@comcast.net> Subject: Street names in Joni songs> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:41:55 -0500> > I was thinking about the song Cotton Avenue and then started > wondering what different street names are mentioned in Joni Mitchell > songs:> > Cotton Avenue> Bleeker Street> Sistowbell Lane> > > there are surely others...> > > Then I started thinking of street names in music in general. Off the > top of my head...> > Cotton Avenue (Joni Mitchell)> Bleeker Street (Joni Mitchell)> Sistowbell Lane (Joni Mitchell)> 22 Acacia Avenue (Iron Maiden)> 5th and Hennepin (Tom Waits)> Baker Street (Gerry Rafferty)> Main Street (Bob Seger)> Broadway (Genesis, etc..)> Penny Lane (Beatles)> Electric Avenue (Eddie Grant)> Piedmont, Juniper (Matthew Kahler)> Thunder Road (Springsteen)> Shakedown Street (Grateful Dead)> Bourbon Street( Grateful Dead, Sting)> Highway 41 (Allman Brothers)> Route 66 (Bobby Troup)> Mean Street (Van Halen)> Ventura Highway (America)> 4th Street (Dylan)> Montague Street (Dylan)> > > Victor> > NP: Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister (my favorite > work from them by far) _________________________________________________________________ Prova Live.com: una sola home page per avere a portata di mano tutte le tue informazioni. http://www.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:19:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Randy Remote wrote: > I'd be overjoyed to create a turkey like Let It Be.....and disagree about > the White Album, too...the whole thing is great (although George > Harrison said it would have made a great single album, but what > does he know?) I'll say. Since the day it came out it has always been at the top of my all time best albums ever produced! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:21:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Street names in Joni songs Old Beale Street is coming down in "Furry Sings The Blues" "In France They Kiss on Main Street" Bob NP: Ben Harper, "Widow Of A Living Man" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:06:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's fans/a little long Hi NJ - I dug through the vaults and found that track: http://download.yousendit.com/2D544FA347699122 I just LOVE Blades' drums on this one, just amazing. Greg Liesz' pedal steel is good too, but not quite as prominent as Brian's work. She didn't do this one in Atlanta when I saw her - maybe that wail note was too much for her. Bob NP: Elton John, "Mona Lisas & Mad Hatters" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:40:11 -0800 (PST) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: Hejira dirge I can't believe you've yanked me out of lurkdom, Bene, but I have to take exception with your statement. It was exactly because of reading the lyrics that I became a Joni Mitchell devotee. Before '77, I mainly knew Joni from am radio -- this means "Help Me", "Free Man In Paris" and "In France They Kiss On Main Street". I liked her voice and her catchy, upbeat pop tunes. I neither owned nor had heard any of her earlier recordings with the exception of the single "Carey". I bought "Hejira" based on the sound of the above songs and the album artwork. Imagine my shock when I put the album on the turntable got "Coyote" instead of "Help Me 2". It's safe to say that, in those first few moments, dirge would have described what I heard. Two bucks wasted! But that glorius album cover beckoned. When you unfolded it and the lyrics spilled across the two leaves it practically shouted "Important Stuff Here". So instead of shutting down the phono, I sat down with the lyrics and read as I listened. By the time I got to side two and the opening chords of "Song For Sharon", I was hooked. Had it not been for the album cover drawing me in to read the lyrics as I listened, I'd never have gotten into her music. The sound was just too foriegn. Of course, "Hejira" is now my all time favorite album. BTW, after "Hejira" I bought "C&S" and "Hissing" then filled in the subsequent recordings as they were released. I didn't purchase anything prior to 1974 until after "Turbulent Indigo". Jumping into Joni in midstream, each new album seemed to be a logical progression (although there were several sharp 90 degree turns) and I love her 80s work. To me, her earlier work, although brilliant, is the foriegn stuff. Go figure. Paul In MD -who still sits down and reads the lyrics as he listens to each new Joni recording and who is especially looking forward to doing that later this year missblux@googlemail.com wrote: You Know Andeemac, I don't think reading the lyrics is going to help. She sings the words so clearly, and I always found that it added to their beauty that she sings them almost as if she was talking them, they come so naturally. If they don't talk to you from the loudspeaker then I think the case is lost. - --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:16:13 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: how tall is Joni I was stunned by the fact that Joni absolutely towered over Dylan in that Youtube video, where she and Van crashed Dylan 's set. So how tall is Dylan then ? 5' 1 ? Michael in Quebec Kate wrote: I'm just a smidgin under 5'5" and I believe she is a little taller, maybe 5'6" Kate http://xoetc.antville.org _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:21:55 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter... I'm with you on DJRD. It's in my top 3 Joni albums, to be sure. The winds of freedom blow through this record. And how's the Soundheim coming along ? Michael in Quebec (also a Libra, 6' 1) Victor wrote: Funny how everybody has different preferences when it comes to Joni Mitchell. Someone described this album as dreadful recently and I find it to be one of her most beautiful works. Especially Overture/Cotton Avenue and Paprika Plains....I love when Jaco's bass comes in the very beginning of the album. Victor NP: Paprika Plains _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:23:39 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Six Degrees of Joni While I was trying to find out if Olivia Newton-John had ever covered a Joni song, I discovered a tenuous connection. While she never recorded a Joni song, Tom Scott played sax on Olivia's 1985 album, Soul Kiss. It got me thinking of all the connections between people Joni has performed with. Let's play Six Degrees of Joni. Mark in Sydney NP Deeper Than The Night - Olivia Newton-John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:30:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter DJRD isn't close to my last choice. DJRD is Joni's "white album". It's a long set of collaborations with lots of people and there are many textures. Not everyone is going to like "Overture/Cotton Avenue" anymore than everyone likes "Honey Pie". The jazz period is a trip, if it gets through to you. THOSL might have the most cohesive theme but DJRD has to be 2nd. Only Joni would pack an album with jazz players when the dominant theme is native Americans / lost innocence. She's Paul McCartney, Chuck Berry, Geo. Martin, Annie Ross, and Sting rolled into one. Joni's "The One, True Center" (r). Amen, Jim L. johnnybgoode@lineone.net said, in part, >When I was digitising my Joni collection it was very high on the list after HOSL CAS Blue etc. I have never wanted to get the CD of DJRD and my double vinyl is near mint, as I never want to play it, now matter how good the playing is on it. I probably just don't get it but what would others say was her worst album, DJRD must be up there or thereabouts.> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:43:51 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter >I don't own Chalkmark, though I've heard it and don't feel called to go out and get it. But I know other people really like it (hi Kate).< whoa, what a good memory you have jenny! That is scary... yes chalkmark i loved because for me, it was a return to that hypnotic rhythmic joni that I'd been missing for years... then came nrh! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:43:53 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: WOHAM >And I think I understand now why she went away from the more melodic style after C&S.< why do you think she did that em? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:43:53 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Don Juan's Reckless Daughter So jbg, what is your #1 perfect album? >Sorry All, I didn't think I was saying anything that controversial. Heijira in general has several nice tunes with memorable words that hit home emotionally. Song for Sharon, Coyote Amelia, and Black Crow for example. They are longish, but not overblown. When I was digitising my Joni collection it was very high on the list after HOSL CAS Blue etc. I have never wanted to get the CD of DJRD and my double vinyl is near mint, as I never want to play it, now matter how good the playing is on it. I probably just don't get it but what would others say was her worst album, DJRD must be up there or thereabouts. Perhaps someone could explain? Even the Beatles produced a relative turkey in Let it Be, and about one third of the White Album is pretty bad.< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: Six Degrees of Joni i love this game and i cant tell you who it is but i've got one degree of separation with joni. he's a musician who was very close to her. mags, sworn to secrecy ;-)) Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: While I was trying to find out if Olivia Newton-John had ever covered a Joni song, I discovered a tenuous connection. While she never recorded a Joni song, Tom Scott played sax on Olivia's 1985 album, Soul Kiss. It got me thinking of all the connections between people Joni has performed with. Let's play Six Degrees of Joni. Mark in Sydney NP Deeper Than The Night - Olivia Newton-John ***** ~all the windows of my heart, i open to this day~ ***** - --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:42:06 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Six Degrees of Joni Awww! No fair. Just kidding. I respect people's privacy. Including Joni's. If I knew Joni and she asked me not to tell anyone on this list, I would respect that. I told the story last year of how I met a lovely old Canadian couple visiting Sydney on the light rail. I'm always very friendly with tourists and when the conversation allowed me to divulge my interest in Joni's music, they gave each other the strangest look. Thinking I had creeped them out or something, I asked what the problem was. The woman reluctantly told me she was a close friend of Joni's and that she had just attended her birthday party but I was not to tell anyone. I thought she was going to have a heart attack when I told her I was a member of the discussion list. There was sheer panic in her eyes. I promised I wouldn't tell and since I haven't mentioned their names, I believe I have kept my promise. They were more panicked than I was excited. I was more interested in them anyway. Mark in Sydney NP Ring of Fire - Olivia Newton-John On 20/01/2007, at 6:19 PM, mags h wrote: > i love this game and i cant tell you who it is but i've got one degree > of separation with joni. he's a musician who was very close to her. > > mags, sworn to secrecy ;-)) > > Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: >> While I was trying to find out if Olivia Newton-John had ever covered >> a >> Joni song, I discovered a tenuous connection. While she never recorded >> a Joni song, Tom Scott played sax on Olivia's 1985 album, Soul Kiss. >> >> It got me thinking of all the connections between people Joni has >> performed with. Let's play Six Degrees of Joni. >> >> Mark in Sydney >> >> NP Deeper Than The Night - Olivia Newton-John > > > > ***** > ~all the windows of my heart, i open to this day~ > > ***** > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with theYahoo! 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