From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #348 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, December 5 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 348 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder ["] Vagrant Winter ["P. Henry" ] Re: "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder [Catherine McKay ] Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for? [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for? [Michael Flaherty ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:20:48 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder I'm running behind the times, so maybe this has been seen or mentioned previously. But just in case (from the LA Daily News): http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=537112 Mia _________________________________________________________________ Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 02:32:44 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: Vagrant Winter Any Bob Seger fans out there? Well, I was looking over the Ron Coden auction and I noticed that it was published by Hideout Records which reminded me of the old Detroit Hideout club rock venue so I started googling and came across a legendary album called The Best Of Hideout Records which didn't have any cuts by Ron but quite a few by "Bob Seger and The Last Heard", his original band as well as many sixties local bands. So then I started looking for links to them. Many know of the famous Bob Seger and his many nationwide hits but few outside of us old Detroiters recall Bob Seger and The Last Heard or seeing him on the afternoon DJ show doing their "big" local hit, "Heavy Music" and "Heavy Music part II". (Seger's style was to wear his hair so long in the front thay you never saw his eyes) Anyway, that was the only song I remembered of theirs from back then so, naturally, I started browsing through the songs in these comps I found and imagine my surprise when I found one entitled "Vagrant Winter"! There is absolutely no chance that he got that phrase for the title of that song, whoever wrote it, from anywhere else than Joni. Anyone ever heard it? Rambling On, Pat - -- "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 12:25:10 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder - --- mia _ wrote: > I'm running behind the times, so maybe this has been > seen or mentioned > previously. But just in case (from the LA Daily > News): > > http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=537112 > > Mia > I think you're the first to mention this, Mia, unless I missed it. Do people get Seasonal Affective Disorder in LA? I thought it was a function of light, or lack thereof. It's pretty gloomy in the north these days but I think I would miss snow if I lived in a southern climate. (Snow is best if it falls only on the grassy areas and maybe rooftops, but not on roads or sidewalks.) "River" sounds to me like a big, long sigh. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:20:46 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Vagrant Winter Howdy Pat - I'm assuming you're not preparing for a vagrant winter down there in your part of the world... I'm a Seger fan - everything up to Stranger In Town anyway. Living in Detroit area from '65 to '68 I remember hearing Bob Seger's name and I remember the local hit "Heavy Music" as well - probably heard it on WKNR (Keener radio) a few times. My older sister loved it and still does. I recall him playing Cobo Hall a lot, maybe that was later. That's an interesting point about "Vagrant Winter" (which appears to have come out in 1967) - given that Joni was in the same area, it's certainly coincidental. I did some quick searching but no clues as to any ties between the two songs. Seger's song is (not surprisingly) much weaker than Joni's. And speak of the devil, I just stumbled on a fresh cover of UFG today, so color me happy. Bob NP: Sonic Youth, "Karen Revisited" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I was on the tribute site for Joni at my space.com: http://www.myspace.com/folkicon and River plays repeatedly. Such a beautiful song! As I was listening to the song and the lyrics, I was wondering who she may have written this song for. Based on her deep relationship with Graham Nash (I think), I was wondering if this song was written about him. Just curious... Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 17:59:36 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Excuse banwidth - attn: Jerry N. Jerry do you have an alternate email address? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" To: Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 5:43 PM Subject: Returned mail: delivery problems encountered >A message (from ) was received at 4 Dec 2006 22:43:52 >+0000. > > The following addresses had delivery problems: > > > Permanent Failure: Other address status > Delivery last attempted at Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:43:53 -0000 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:48:55 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for? In a message dated 12/4/2006 3:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: Based on her deep relationship with Graham Nash (I think), I was wondering if this song was written about him. Just curious... Yes, I believe that it was written after her relationshio with Graham fell apart. from Joni Mitchell.com... The emotionally naked songs on "Blue" were a result of Joni's wanting to shed the image of the hippie goddess she'd picked up in the past, and to be appreciated for her true self. If she was going to get this kind of rapturous attention, she felt that the reasons should be free of artifice. She says today that "At that period of my life, I had no personal defenses, so there's hardly a dishonest note in the vocals." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 18:09:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for? In a message dated 12/4/2006 3:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: >Based on her deep relationship with Graham Nash (I think), I was wondering if this song was written about him. Just curious... I find that a composite is always the best guess with Joni. Based on some things she's said about James Taylor, he's very likely to be the one who loved her so naughty it made her weak in the knees. :) Michael Flaherty _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 03:03:29 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Who do you think Joni wrote River for? Thanks so much Rose! That's what I thought but just wasn't sure! Thank you for the insight into her life at the time. Sherelle Rose wrote: > >In a message dated 12/4/2006 3:01:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, >sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: > >Based on her deep relationship with Graham >Nash (I think), I was wondering if this song was written about him. Just >curious... > > > > >Yes, I believe that it was written after her relationshio with Graham fell >apart. >from Joni Mitchell.com... > >The emotionally naked songs on "Blue" were a result of Joni's wanting to >shed > the image of the hippie goddess she'd picked up in the past, and to be >appreciated for her true self. If she was going to get this kind of >rapturous >attention, she felt that the reasons should be free of artifice. She says >today >that "At that period of my life, I had no personal defenses, so there's >hardly >a dishonest note in the vocals." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping has everything on your holiday list. Get expert picks by style, age, and price. Try it! http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8000,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200601&tcode=wlmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:09:24 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder Hi Catherine - Yes, it's pretty gloomy (and freezing cold) here, too, in Wisconsin. I don't mind it so much during the busy holidays and I could really stand winter if it wasn't so darn long. By the end of January, though, I've usually had it. I'm sure the light thingy might have something to do with it. But, it's strange... I really don't favor the sun - I prefer overcast days, especially in the summer. I find the sun harsh. I have a friend here who suffers from season affective disorder pretty bad. She lived in San Diego for about four years and said she felt "SAD" there, too, during winter. Maybe there's different degrees of SAD's, and maybe there's some sort of evolutionary function to this. And maybe SAD's doesn't really apply to "River" - but with Joni being so ultra sensitive and in tune to things...well, I guess one never knows... Mia <--- mia _ wrote: >I'm running behind the times, so maybe this has been >seen or mentioned previously. But just in case (from the LA Daily >News): > >http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=537112 > >Mia > I think you're the first to mention this, Mia, unless I missed it. Do people get Seasonal Affective Disorder in LA? I thought it was a function of light, or lack thereof. It's pretty gloomy in the north these days but I think I would miss snow if I lived in a southern climate. (Snow is best if it falls only on the grassy areas and maybe rooftops, but not on roads or sidewalks.) "River" sounds to me like a big, long sigh. Catherine _________________________________________________________________ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:26:51 -0600 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: "River" - the most exquisite expression of seasonal affective disorder Hi Catherine - Yes, it's pretty gloomy (and freezing cold) here, too, in Wisconsin. I don't mind it so much during the busy holidays and I could really stand winter if it wasn't so darn long. By the end of January, though, I've usually had it. I'm sure the light thingy might have something to do with it. But, it's strange... I really don't favor the sun - I prefer overcast days, especially in the summer. I find the sun harsh. I have a friend here who suffers from season affective disorder pretty bad. She lived in San Diego for about four years and said she felt "SAD" there, too, during winter. Maybe there's different degrees of SAD's, and maybe there's some sort of evolutionary function to this. And maybe SAD's doesn't really apply to "River" - but with Joni being so ultra sensitive and in tune to things...well, I guess one never knows... Mia <--- mia _ wrote: >I'm running behind the times, so maybe this has been >seen or mentioned previously. But just in case (from the LA Daily >News): > >http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=537112 > >Mia > I think you're the first to mention this, Mia, unless I missed it. Do people get Seasonal Affective Disorder in LA? I thought it was a function of light, or lack thereof. It's pretty gloomy in the north these days but I think I would miss snow if I lived in a southern climate. (Snow is best if it falls only on the grassy areas and maybe rooftops, but not on roads or sidewalks.) "River" sounds to me like a big, long sigh. Catherine _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:12:59 -0700 From: Bruce Eggleston Subject: Re: Truckers, Joni band challenge I know it isn't polite list etiquette, but +1 on the Truckers! Way hard rockin' band, seemingly carrying the torch for the classic rock I know and love. Keep on truckin' dudes. Rock lives in these guys. Hey Alison, I'm a native of Sandy (suburb of slc to you non-Utah- types). Graduated from Jordan High School in the down-right dirty Class of '69! Moved out in 1989 to the Northwest. The first time I saw Joni was in the Highland High Auditorium (in Salt Lake) on the Miles of Aisles Tour with Tom Scott and the L.A. Express. Whew! What a great fabulously tight show that was. I believe the room seats about 2,000 to 2,500, and it has very good accoustics, hot and lively. They played almost exactly what came out on the album, That band was perfectly in Joni's heart and mind. All I could think about during the concert was crawling up to the stage and proposing marriage to Ms. Mitchell. I'm sorry I didn't. She was radiantly beautiful, in tremendous voice and sang like an angel, or two. Joni played a huge Steinway grand for the entire show with a single red rose in a crystal vase on the piano. That show is easily one of the peak experiences of my simple life. I truly felt like I was in the presence of a diety, her genius was god-like in that show. "I'd trade all my tomorrows for just one more yesterday" ... with Joni playing in that band. I've only seen Joni twice, the second time at the George at George, Washington, Sunday May 17, 1988, with Van and Bob. But, I'd dare say that the Miles of Aisles band was her best. Challenge (if it hasn't been done to death): What is your favorite Joni band? I know many of you might prefer Joni solo, but that doesn't count in this challenge, if you please. Name just one band. And you know where my moniker comes from, Bonneville Bruce Now rockin' in Sunnyslope, Idaho > From: "Alison J Einerson" > Subject: Truckers NJC > > I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR YEARS! MY JACKOLANTERN WAS THE > COVER OF > SOUTHERN ROCK OPERA! i'm not kidding! they are my favorite band, bar > none, they come thru slc every 6 months or so, and i see them > everytime. > i've met them all thru my radio gig, i'm so lucky. if cooley weren't > married, i'd leave my husband in a second! and scott's cool with that, > that's how much my husband loves the truckers. it's the only thing > he'll > stay out past 10 PM for. > jesus, mikey, don't make me yell at you like this! i think bob and I > have talked about them on the list before, haven't we bob? > lol. > hearts, > Alison E in slc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:27:21 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: 99 best songs ever written Perhaps some of you want to vote for your favorite Joni song- Performing Songwriter Magazine is compiling a list of the 99 best songs ever written, for its 99th issue. You can vote here: http://www.performingsongwriter.com/pages/home/99songs.cfm ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #348 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)