From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #339 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 26 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 339 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- ISO Boot for Joni Tribute @ Carnegie Hall 2/1/06 [Bennett Brier Subject: ISO Boot for Joni Tribute @ Carnegie Hall 2/1/06 Thanx ahead of time! I listed wrong email address in yesterday's post. If you can help, contact me @ bbrier@austin.rr.com. Bennett ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:08:11 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: SJC Leonard Cohen film (and some Nick Cave... (& Nephew!) ) Hello all....unknown Jonilisteners, Jonilurkers and the ones I know! I just came back from watching the film on Leonard Cohen, it was very enjoyable. Has anyone seen it...? It opened with Nick Cave, who is even more my darling after I saw him in concert in Germany last week. That is weird, because my friend and I weren't actually totally swept away with that concert. We were somewhat awe-struck, but... A year ago, I went with the same friend to a concert in Cologne, with a Danish band called Nephew. The venue was small, Nephew totally unknown in Germany, and we got in for free. But we had a PARTY! The room was teaming, and we danced and sang along, and leaving the venue we were shouting and dancing and totally ecstatic, and my friend had never heard them before but he loved them. We went to his local pub afterwards, and I think my mantra for the night, which I shouted every five minutes, was "We should have invited them for a beer!" Walking away from Nick Cave, who performed in a proper concert hall, almost sold out, and at really expensive prices, I knew one of us would say, actually, Nephew was more fun. And I knew I'd agree and disagree at the same time. He has a kind of grandeur which is impressive and touching at the same time and which also shines through in the Cohen film. The film has some great acts in it, Rufus Wainwright and Antony impressed me a lot, and some older Canadian female singers I'd never heard of before. It was great because whenever they show anything about music on TV it's mostly for the glamour, and it's attention-seeking posers with botoxed lips and sleak clothes and hair that makes them tilt their heads in funny angles. This film is full of humans who are there to make art and first of all rever someone else than themselves. Now that is nice for a change! No Joni references (how dare they!), but Cohen said something that made me think about our discussions about Dylan and Joni. He said when he came to New York as a young man and met the 'market' there, he noticed that the American poets had more grand visions about themselves and the world. Because they were Americans, the somehow expected that they would be able to change the world. The Canadians, he said, were more humble. I don't think this sums up the mystery of why everyone knows Dylan, but not Joni. But then maybe it does, anyway. I think with her, it's because she sings about personal experiences, and people at that time were so much into changing society (damn in what Joni song does the word society occur? I hear it ringing in my ear right now, just ...society!) I almost get the impression that introspection was only acceptable if the point was to break down patriarchal patterns that would make you support the capitalist society. Not that many people would admit that 'all I really want to do right now is find another lover'. But don't we all know the feeling! Maybe I should add that I was born in 1965, so it's not like I never saw a hippie... or a peace-march. That's all for today, except if any of you Cave-men and women came to the end of this email I'd like to ask again if you've seen The Proposition, and how you liked it...? Have a nice evening over there, and for those of you who are on my side of the planet, the Africans and the Europeans, good night! Benedicte ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #339 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)