From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #327 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, November 15 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 327 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni 83 Wembly Concert ["frank david caldwell" ] Kate's visit with Joni [] Joni's wit [] Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault [Mark-Leon Th] Re: "Roses Blue" [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: Beware the ides of...Retro Covers #9 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault ["ron" ] Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault [Ingrid Lochr] Re: Starbucks CD [Bryan ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20beauty?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #427 [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: A Case of You- Youtube.com [Bob Muller ] RE: that guy on youtube sings joni [Danilo Monno ] As for Joni's beauty [missblux@googlemail.com] RE: that guy on youtube sings joni [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: that guy on youtube sings joni [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: A Case of You- Youtube.com [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) ["Bree Mcdonough" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:14:11 +1100 From: "frank david caldwell" Subject: Joni 83 Wembly Concert Hi All,The Joni 83 Wembly Concert Is On It's Way To Melissa Gibbs In Sydney Australia. She Will Offer It Up On The List Regards Frank In Sydney frankcal@bigpond.net.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:56:35 -0800 From: Subject: Kate's visit with Joni Hi Kate du Nord, you attributed this statement to me but it really came from Kate B. of S.B. and her recent visit with Joni ;-) > She is so stunningly beautiful. Much more beautiful in person than the > photos you see of her. Very youthful, animated, and gracious. Howevah..I said almost the same exact words the first time I met her at the taping in '98. Joni absolutely IS much more beautiful in person than photos or film portray. It's amazing. And I loved hearing Kate B. having the same reaction of many of us who have experienced this. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:03:03 -0800 From: Subject: Joni's wit Forgot to relate some stories I heard of Joni encounters the other night. Hope some more will report a few of them, ahem ;0) Anyway, Joni's wit seems to be sharper than ever. Quick on the riposte no matter what the subject, from what I heard. It kind of amazed me considering that she was under the scope and onslaught of people. I would have gone into ADD mode under the same circumstances. As it was she did retreat to her smoking sanctuary for a good part of the night, which I'm sure helped bring her back in balance a bit ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:30:04 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) Thanks for the clip, Catherine. I'm a link-freak, so please keep them coming:) The girls said that Joni is much more beautiful in person and that she's very youthful. As for Joni's beauty - Can you imagine the very same gifted Joni (with the very same artistic quality) only with a slight change of being "ugly", managing to start a career, appealing both to guys like Crosby and the industry that followed and the smaller crowd she had when she was a young woman? I guess we would say something like, sure, she was brilliant enough to make even if she had a moustache, or that she was always too honorable to bend to that part of the game and always above it, (and in our case, now, many years since then, we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about her looks that much) - but is that really the case? We often do tend to look at this beauty-compulsive-disorder of the biz as a post-modern syndrome of these times and this era, when in fact it was always there, and in Joni's case it's an hypothetical question, but at the same time, just looking around you, it may be answered, and it's one of those answers that are still "in the closet", and as absurd at it may seem, one must be really honest and brave to give it. As for the youthful part, i don't know when this "you look so much younger" thing that is often said to older ladies (and gents) as some sort of a blessed-mantra has taken over the world, but why should older people look younger anyway and how come that even those who go for natural in every other aspect still view aging as a bad sign and wrinkles of an older body as a problem? Looking at Joni's self-portraits, the paintings that she used as album sleeves for her later works, i sense that she's a bit torn between youth-aging/beauty-oddness and undecided herslef, and even though painting yourself allows you to present yourself in any way you wish to, the woman i see on the sleeves of TTT, TI, The Beginning of Survival and Dreamland, is older and proud about it and sometimes, as mentioned in one of this week posts, isn't too pretty at all, and that's the way Joni the painter chose it to be and that's her brutally honest art. Nuri --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Kate wrote: "She is so > stunningly beautiful. Much more beautiful in person > than the photos you see of her. Very youthful, > animated, and gracious." > > > That's what cameras do. Including the > ultra-digital ones. In the early 80's it was tested, > calculated and then figured out that a device that > would capture images exactly like the human eyes do > will be in the size of an olympic stadium. > > Nuri > this isn't really related, so now it's njc, but made me think of a campaign by "Dove" (soaps and so on) on how we can all be turned into beauties with the use of makeup artistry and photoshop. It's a short film and very interesting to see what they do: http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.ca/film_fullscreen_evo.html Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:41:12 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault That's odd. I registered too but have never gotten an e-mail from them. I do however get a lot of spam but I don't know if I can attribute any of it to yousendit.com. I've never had any problems with it since I registered and it knows who I am as soon as I go there. No need to log on. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:32:58 -0800 From: Subject: The Joni Green Day Song Catalogue Rose wrote: "I just got off the phone with Julia form the Gallery. Did anyone purchase one at the exhibit?....they sure are more expensive than the Voices art book ($175.00). Are they nice?" They are nice but very pricey. I bought one and it will be signed by Joni and mailed to me. With shipping and handling and tax it came to around $200.00. What interested me was the rarity (limited edition) and the thought that there may not be too many more chances to acquire something like it. It is not like a usual catalog but is rather arty. It is around 12 inches high and 5 or 6 inches wide with what looks like a corrugated cardboard cover. I did not have too much of a chnce to peruse it because the crush of people was just stifling but inside appears to be reproductions of many of the works at the show and pages with some of the lyrics to her new songs. There may be other surprises inside but it was nearly impossible to spend time to look while lining up to place an order. I really feel the need to go back again to view the exhibit. It was so difficult to really take it all in that night. I do think her work was very ambitious and interesting in part because of her involvement working with new media. But it needs better study than one whirlwind night. I so anticipate the new music. I have a feeling it may be just awesome. It has been nearly ten years since we have heard original lyrics from her so there is lots to look forward to. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:14:38 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault Thanks Ron for converting this and sharing. Coyote is quite different too. She introduces it as a "new song". Lyrics: "...he's got a woman at home, he's got a woman for the night and now he wants to take one for the day. Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that way?" Interesting variation. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:07:23 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: "Roses Blue" In a message dated 11/14/2006 11:49:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, broomstick_bluestocking@yahoo.com writes: Too true, but you omitted a key part of my comment above, which didn't just say "as if Witches and occultists lay anything on anybody", period, but continued with "more than, say, fundamentalist Christians do, or the Salem Witch Trials, or the Spanish Inquisition." Thrice-13 lashes with a phantom broken guitar-string! Good morning my favorite cackler! Sooooo are you saying Witchiepoos and Ocultist-toos lay stuff on people but not any more than the no fun fundamentalists, etc.? Well, I don't know anybody who does. I do know people who TALK sometimes about sun sign compatibilities, but then blithely jump into the next and nearest likely-seeming "relationship" that presents itself anyway, no matter WHAT the person's sign. Yes, and I've also seen sign-based resentments that happen during such relationships... gotta blame it on something I suppose. One of my friends is a Roman Catholic who I swear is more pious than the Pope. His idea of a good time is to go into a divinity library and pile the most obscure tomes he can find as high to heaven as he possibly can, poring over them in total ecstacy for hours on end. He reportedly got kicked out of a monastic retreat weekend for instructing the good brothers in their devotions. Heh. Cackle. I think this is just the kind of person Roses Blue was written about even though the mysterious devotions are RC. Haven't sung it for awhile, but I've thought of recording a cover version of it sometime on a future album. That and "Pirate of Penance", yo-ho, yo-ho... Cool... go for it! Yeah, but if it happens to anybody's HEART, he or she could be in big trouble. Like an atrial fibrillation perhaps? Oh, I do love this song, honest, but I've always kind of been thinking: "Oh, come now, Joni, dear girl. Surely this Blue Rose Witchie chick and her priestessy little pursuits aren't as bad and scary as all THAT." :-) I didn't get "scary" out of Roses Blue, not as in "boo" scary anyway. It is more of a wake up call song in my opinion. Let's hear it for Nature's Blueprint: the fun & fearless female! You know, with all human embryos being female to start with, and all... Lots of little Roses Blueprints... Really, they aren't exactly all "female to start with." The phenotype during development actually looks more male at one point even for female embryos. All for the roses, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:06:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) I can't agree more. ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: Nuriel Tobias To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:30:04 AM Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) Thanks for the clip, Catherine. I'm a link-freak, so please keep them coming:) The girls said that Joni is much more beautiful in person and that she's very youthful. As for Joni's beauty - Can you imagine the very same gifted Joni (with the very same artistic quality) only with a slight change of being "ugly", managing to start a career, appealing both to guys like Crosby and the industry that followed and the smaller crowd she had when she was a young woman? I guess we would say something like, sure, she was brilliant enough to make even if she had a moustache, or that she was always too honorable to bend to that part of the game and always above it, (and in our case, now, many years since then, we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about her looks that much) - but is that really the case? We often do tend to look at this beauty-compulsive-disorder of the biz as a post-modern syndrome of these times and this era, when in fact it was always there, and in Joni's case it's an hypothetical question, but at the same time, just looking around you, it may be answered, and it's one of those answers that are still "in the closet", and as absurd at it may seem, one must be really honest and brave to give it. As for the youthful part, i don't know when this "you look so much younger" thing that is often said to older ladies (and gents) as some sort of a blessed-mantra has taken over the world, but why should older people look younger anyway and how come that even those who go for natural in every other aspect still view aging as a bad sign and wrinkles of an older body as a problem? Looking at Joni's self-portraits, the paintings that she used as album sleeves for her later works, i sense that she's a bit torn between youth-aging/beauty-oddness and undecided herslef, and even though painting yourself allows you to present yourself in any way you wish to, the woman i see on the sleeves of TTT, TI, The Beginning of Survival and Dreamland, is older and proud about it and sometimes, as mentioned in one of this week posts, isn't too pretty at all, and that's the way Joni the painter chose it to be and that's her brutally honest art. Nuri --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Kate wrote: "She is so > stunningly beautiful. Much more beautiful in person > than the photos you see of her. Very youthful, > animated, and gracious." > > > That's what cameras do. Including the > ultra-digital ones. In the early 80's it was tested, > calculated and then figured out that a device that > would capture images exactly like the human eyes do > will be in the size of an olympic stadium. > > Nuri > this isn't really related, so now it's njc, but made me think of a campaign by "Dove" (soaps and so on) on how we can all be turned into beauties with the use of makeup artistry and photoshop. It's a short film and very interesting to see what they do: http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.ca/film_fullscreen_evo.html Catherine Toronto - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - - Click now for info ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:32:05 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Starbucks CD Yep, I think it was Deb that mentioned it, back when that CD first came out. Bob NP: Dr. John, "Season Of The Witch" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Have a lovely day everyone Love Anita xx _________________________________________________________________ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:52:18 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Beware the ides of...Retro Covers #9 http://www.yousendit.com/download/M7FQusCPbWw%3D Joni Covers, Volume 9 - (remastered from the original release - some very interesting ones too) 1. Dane Vannatter - Night Ride Home 2. Colloseum II - Down To You 3. Julian Coryell - River 4. Viola Wells - Both Sides Now 5. Fred Hersch - My Old Man 6. Bob Dylan - Big Yellow Taxi 7. Paul Desmond - Song To A Seagull 8. Innocence Mission - Both Sides Now 9. Matthew's Minstrels - Raised On Robbery 10. Jill O'Hara - River 11. Eva Cassidy - Woodstock 12. Tom Rush - Urge For Going (Live) 13. Gabor Szabo - Both Sides Now 14. Gabor Szabo - Michael From Mountains 15. Annika Fehling - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 16. Cilla Black - Both Sides Now Hope you enjoy - any and all feedback is welcome. Bob NP: Duhks, "Mountains O'Things" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:00:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Joni Mitchell Hi Helena, Thank you so much for sharing your Joni experience with us! My goodness! I feel like I was right there with you when you were discussing camera techniques! Oh, I hope you will savor this experience always! I didn't get to see the cell phone picture but I'm still esctactic to read about your experience! Wonderful! Sherelle From: Helena Ruffin I wish I was in this pic with Joni...but there she was, inches away, so I used my cell phone and shot. We went to her gallery opening, "green flag song" last Friday. Joni's a bit of a recluse so having her come to this show was a rare treat for her fans. She looked like a typical Brentwood housewife. Dressed in a Miyake blouse paired with jeans, some simple jewelry, and a designer backpack. Wish the pix were better but so goes the cell phone picture phone! Before the mob started to get overwhelming for her, we got a chance to talk briefly with her about her art and the recent win by the Democrats in the elections. She said to Rose, pointing her finger "and did you see Bush sitting there like a little boy next to Nancy Pelosi, he knew he was cooked." She and Rose bantered back and forth a bit, then I asked her about her art. I asked her about her technique with the camera and she dragged me over to one of her pieces to show me some details in the art. I loved it. Then I remarked to her that "the music wasn't too bad either" (her anti-war songs) and she realized it was her music and said, "Sorry, but I've got to go they're playing the wrong music! I wanted them to play the Mills Brothers and Marlene Dietrich". Then she disappeared in the crowd into a back room, and held court back there the rest of the night. If you have a chance to see the show, you must. For more info on the show go to: http://www.jonimitchell.com/news/results_date.cfm?id=320&from=url Helena _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:10:38 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Beware the ides of...Retro Covers #9 > Joni Covers, Volume 9 - (remastered from the original release - some very > interesting ones too) > Hope you enjoy - any and all feedback is welcome. Favorites from this collection: Fred Hersch - My Old Man Jill O'Hara - River Cilla Black - Both Sides Now Eva Cassidy - Woodstock Tom Rush - Urge For Going (Live) As always, we are so lucky Bob has collected these for us. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:14:58 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: joni inspired band names I was working really hard to come up with a Joni insp. band name for our gig this weekend. I thought of Court and Spark but found it has already been taken (The Court and Spark- San Fransisco). I was browsing through lyrics and songs and nothing really seemed to click. The I looked at "Moon at the Window" and mistakenly referred to it as "Moon in the Window" which made me think of "Moon Innuendo" which I am going to go with. It has a nice ring to it, dark and pleasant at the same time. We go on at 6:30 sharp. The television broadcast starts at 7pm with the Army Brass Quintet, a Boys choir performing with bells, and Shawn Mullins, etc..If you're in the area, come by. There's a really good sushi/steakhouse Strip, right next to the park where we'll be performing. Victor, enjoying a rainy "day" in Georgia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: Norma Jean Garza Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - --- Joni said: > "and did you see Bush sitting there like a little > boy next to Nancy > Pelosi, he knew he was cooked." - ---Norma Jean said: >"and do you remember back about three-four years ago, Bush sitting >next to Pope John Paul II at the Vatican? He looked like a guilty little >boy/brat who got caught with his hands in the sacristy's cookie jar >and piggy bank...boy, he knew he was burnt bacon in front of all the >world to see and he just kept his gaze down below and hung his >head down low." NJ How I wish I could see the Lady's gallery... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:58:01 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault hi >>moni wrote > "You must be logged in to download this file." > Why not use some of the uploading services that do not require a login? > Like http://www.megaupload.com or > http://www.hyperupload.com/ or > http://www.mytempdir.com/ megaupload is capped at ten megs im busy figuring out the others which look more promising & will probably be used in future but i really dont think yousendit can be too bad - ive had a little spam from them since registering, but deleting a few mails is not really a hassle ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:54:46 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) Interesting thoughts here..Nuri. As far as Joni being a beauty? When I think of Joni just on solely her appearance ..I think of her not looking so ordinary. She certainly doesn't have those classic beauty features.....which bore me..the late Grace of Monaco comes to mind. I think of the pretty faces of today...again ..boring to me...I don't look twice...we all know them...in the entertainment news daily...of them .... "pretty as pretty does". I think Joni has one of the most interesting faces..and so NOT ordinary...she fits her music. I think of the documentary ..FACES....in one segment they showed babies reaction to pictures of faces.. the "prettier" the face.. the more favorable reaction from the baby. Or a dimensional mold of what is considered a beautiful face..that it seems all beautiful faces fit those exact dimensions. Now that is scary to me. ....only a fraction off... this way or that way...and your NOT considered a pretty person. "beautiful as a foot".....forgot the artist here... anyway...I saw Annie Lebowitz (sp?) recently...now definitely not your classic beauty....but what she had to say was so interesting...and the way she presented herself....I found everything about her very attactive. Not in under the covers sort of way either...just her whole persona. What am I trying to say..she became pretty in her OWN way. I guess there are more important things to rail against..not that I'm railing...but just another pretty face ..I turn off as quiclly as I can change the TV remote. Bree > As for Joni's beauty - > Can you imagine the very same gifted Joni (with the very same artistic >quality) only with a slight change of being "ugly", managing to start a >career, appealing both to guys like Crosby and the industry that followed >and the smaller crowd she had when she was a young woman? I guess we would >say something like, sure, she was brilliant enough to make even if she had >a moustache, or that she was always too honorable to bend to that part of >the game and always above it, (and in our case, now, many years since then, >we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about her >looks that much) - but is that really the case? > > > > Nuri _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:07:37 -0500 From: "Susan Cooper" Subject: A Case of You- Youtube.com Hi all, Coming out of lurkdom to let you know I saw another cool video cover of A Case of you. Love it! Hope you enjoy it too. Cool dulcimer in the stairwell.... He also does Morning Morgantown and Chelsea Morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXBxhJkGc0 Enjoy! Sue Cooper _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:58:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault !!!...ingrid - ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark-Leon Thorne To: ron Cc: JMDL Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:14:38 AM Subject: Re: joni / rolling thunder revue concert on wolfgangs vault Thanks Ron for converting this and sharing. Coyote is quite different too. She introduces it as a "new song". Lyrics: "...he's got a woman at home, he's got a woman for the night and now he wants to take one for the day. Why'd you have to get so drunk and lead me on that way?" Interesting variation. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:10:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bryan Subject: Re: Starbucks CD Subject: Starbucks CD Has anyone mentioned that Joni's "All I Want" (one of her true greats) is among the tracks on Starbucks recent 35th Anniversary disc (I didn't know Starbucks was that old). There she is among 1971 classics by Bowie, T. Rex, Al Green, Lennon, Grateful Dead, CCR, Aretha, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, The Kinks, etc. Worth the 14 bucks... Frank I think we mentioned that briefly here a while back (Starbucks was stocking Blue at the same time in celebration of the company's founding year, 1971). I picked up a copy of the 35th anniversary disc. It has some fine stuff on it, but overall I find it a difficult listen. I can't quite articulate it, but there's something about rock music of of the very early 70s that I just don't care for....too bluesy or something for my liking. Much of it sounds like it emerged from a bad acid trip (and perhaps it did). But kudos to Starbucks for re-issuing the old stuff. Bryan - --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:25:10 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20beauty?= "Patti Parlette" said >You are BEAUTIFUL, mon amie! many thanks patti. but, i felt bittersweet about this compliment. i sure as hell look very little like I used to. and working in west la surrounded my 50 year old barbie dolls i'm fighting to accept myself. i find myself taking comfort in the old saying my mother used to control my wild child self: " pretty is as pretty does". or as grace slick used to sing: you're only pretty as you feel....only as pretty as you feel inside.. pat cliches for sure, but true too. i'm not sure i got this at 20.. in light of the recent discussions, started by ever thoughtful nuri, i too was pondering the descrption of joni as a brentwood housewife. my friend had described joni just like that 25 years ago when she saw joni at a museum opening, snottily, like she had somehow lost her grace or shouldn't have taken off off the halo or jumped off the pedestal. (I don't mean YOU were snotty, Helena). it is cool that joni can blend in like that. that is until she opens her mouth or writes or picks up a paintbrush. there is something ghastly about holding us to the standard of the beauty of 15 year olds.. joni said it well in her recent interview with paul starr. it's in the library. and that nuri, is who paulie starr is, joni's make-up artist. i'm sure kakki and kate were talking about joni's vibrance, and patti about my sharing. beauty and god are they the same? surely ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 13:26:00 -0800 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Kakki=27s=20visit=20with=20Joni=20=28now =20joni=20again=29?= oops bree i hadn't read your post..it says it all - ---------- Original Message ------------- Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:54:46 -0800 From: "Bree Mcdonough" To: nurielt@yahoo.com, joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) >Interesting thoughts here..Nuri. As far as Joni being a beauty? When >I think of Joni just on solely her appearance ..I think of her not looking >so ordinary. She certainly doesn't have those classic beauty >features.....which bore me..the late Grace of Monaco comes to mind. I >think of the pretty faces of today...again ..boring to me...I don't look >twice...we all know them...in the entertainment news daily...of them .... >"pretty as pretty does". I think Joni has one of the most interesting >faces..and so NOT ordinary...she fits her music. > >I think of the documentary ..FACES....in one segment they showed babies >reaction to pictures of faces.. the "prettier" the face.. the more favorable >reaction from the baby. Or a dimensional mold of what is considered a >beautiful face..that it seems all beautiful faces fit those exact >dimensions. Now that is scary to me. ....only a fraction off... this way >or that way...and your NOT considered a pretty person. > > >"beautiful as a foot".....forgot the artist here... anyway...I saw Annie >Lebowitz (sp?) recently...now definitely not your classic beauty....but what >she had to say was so interesting...and the way she presented herself....I >found everything about her very attactive. Not in under the covers sort >of way either...just her whole persona. What am I trying to say..she >became pretty in her OWN way. > > >I guess there are more important things to rail against..not that I'm >railing...but just another pretty face ..I turn off as quiclly as I can >change the TV remote. > > >Bree > > > > > > > > > >> As for Joni's beauty - >> Can you imagine the very same gifted Joni (with the very same artistic >>quality) only with a slight change of being "ugly", managing to start a >>career, appealing both to guys like Crosby and the industry that followed >>and the smaller crowd she had when she was a young woman? I guess we would >>say something like, sure, she was brilliant enough to make even if she had >>a moustache, or that she was always too honorable to bend to that part of >>the game and always above it, (and in our case, now, many years since then, >>we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about her >>looks that much) - but is that really the case? > > >> > Nuri > >_________________________________________________________________ >Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:59:46 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: that guy on youtube sings joni that guy on youtube does a wonderful interpretation of chelsea morning, case of you and morning morgen town.. here's chelsea...the rest are close by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siqdjr07fwc&mode=related&search= bring the stars home www.stardome.ca - --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Degrees for working adults in as fast as 1 year. Bachelors, Masters, Associates. Top schools ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:40:52 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #427 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:57:13 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: NJC Paranoia on the list.... Moni wrote: The archived postings could be stored on the JMDL server and require a log-in, additionally they could be marked as to not be indexed by Google or any other search engine. All of the above are precisely in place and have been for a few months now. 1) On the JMDL server. 2) Are "invisible" unless logged in 3) Are marked as to not be indexed by search engines. Les - ------- Dear Les! This would be really great. There is a problem though, because when I google myself and "Joni Mitchell", I still get 47 hits, which are links to postings I've made in the past. Could this have something to do with the split-up between JMDL and Jonimitchell.com? That some things on the other site are still freely available...? Sorry to have sent two almost identical emails the other day! I thought the first one didn't get through because I wasn't registered under the email address I sent it from, so I wrote another one.... Thanks a lot for maintaining the site - and sorry that I am being bothersome. I would really appreciate it if this problem could be solved. Best Bene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:39:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: A Case of You- Youtube.com And enjoy it I did, Sue - boy that guy has a great voice. Thanks for sending the link, ya silly ol' goofball you. Bob NP: The Beatles, "Michelle" _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:03:22 +0100 From: Danilo Monno Subject: RE: that guy on youtube sings joni This guy is awesome!So much better than me...Should I be sad? But I can't! I'm so impressed by his interpretation and the sound of his voice.Awesome!DaniloNP Dalida "Histoire d'un amour"> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:59:46 -0800> From: magsie_h@yahoo.com> Subject: that guy on youtube sings joni> To: joni@smoe.org> > that guy on youtube does a wonderful interpretation of chelsea morning, case of you and morning morgen town..> > here's chelsea...the rest are close by> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siqdjr07fwc&mode=related&search=> > > bring the stars home > www.stardome.ca> > ---------------------------------> Sponsored Link> > Degrees for working adults in as fast as 1 year. Bachelors, Masters, Associates. Top schools _________________________________________________________________ Prova Live.com: il tuo mondo on line, con notizie, sport, meteo e molto altro ancora. http://www.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:25:15 +0000 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: As for Joni's beauty Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:30:04 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) Nuri said.... As for Joni's beauty -..... ...... we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about her looks that much) - but is that really the case? - ---------------------- I had never thought of her beauty before someone on this list (Bob?!?) said he was initially attracted to her... singing or guitarplaying or something, and her beauty. I always thought she looked fascinating because she looks sophisticated and vulnerable and strong at the same time. When I first saw the Hejira cover I was a teenager; and she didn't look like anything we were trying to look like in these days. She looked intelligent. If there was anything sexy about her it was a kind of sexy that I had not figured out yet. I think if there was anything about her looks I wanted to have myself it was - - not her physical looks, but the look in her eye. I can see now that she was really cute and charming when she was young, I guess being a man around her it must have been hard not to fall for her. But somehow, I still think there is something slightly awkward and intimately embarrasing about her looks. This is something I can't explain. But for instance, that photo of her and Morrissey (or another singer?) that people were discussing last week - it came as no surprise to me that she was wearing socks in her sandals. At least in Europe, you'd have to be German to do that.... Maybe it's some sort of over-earthlyness that she has that doesn't care about certain things. I dunno. But just to say: no, I got hooked to her music without considering her to be beautiful. - ------------------------------------------- ...And then Nuri asked: As for the youthful part, i don't know when this "you look so much younger" thing that is often said to older ladies (and gents) as some sort of a blessed-mantra has taken over the world, but why should older people look younger anyway and how come that even those who go for natural in every other aspect still view aging as a bad sign and wrinkles of an older body as a problem? - ----------------------------------- I think there is some idea that staying young at heart makes you look young. That if you stay open-minded, open-hearted, curious about life, then that will manifest itself in your appearance. In the way you move and the way you talk etc. So I don't think it's all bullshit when they praise people for looking young! Not that I don't get your point about our youth-obsessed culture. It's a hard one to crack sometimes, I really have to sit down and think about it from time to time: why was it that I once realised that your looks are the least important about you? How exactly did that work??? I just read a portrait of Tom Waits in Word, and they noticed that he looks ten years younger than his 56. Now there's a miracle! - ------------------------------------------------ Nuri again: Looking at Joni's self-portraits, the paintings that she used as album sleeves for her later works, i sense that she's a bit torn between youth-aging/beauty-oddness and undecided herslef, and even though painting yourself allows you to present yourself in any way you wish to, the woman i see on the sleeves of TTT, TI, The Beginning of Survival and Dreamland, is older and proud about it and sometimes, as mentioned in one of this week posts, isn't too pretty at all, and that's the way Joni the painter chose it to be and that's her brutally honest art. - ---------------------------------------------------- Yup. Bene Oh NB: where is the link to those photos of her with big toothy smiles? I must have missed that one! I'd really like to see them... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: RE: that guy on youtube sings joni I think Joni would be bowled over by this guy's incredible interpretation. Incredibly heartwarming to know someone so young has such a deep understanding of both her music and lyrics. Jerry > This guy is awesome!So much better than me...Should I be sad? But I can't! > I'm > so impressed by his interpretation and the sound of his > voice.Awesome!DaniloNP > Dalida "Histoire d'un amour"> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:59:46 -0800> From: > magsie_h@yahoo.com> Subject: that guy on youtube sings joni> To: > joni@smoe.org> > that guy on youtube does a wonderful interpretation of > chelsea morning, case of you and morning morgen town..> > here's > chelsea...the rest are close by> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siqdjr07fwc&mode=related&search=> > > bring > the > stars home > www.stardome.ca> > ---------------------------------> > Sponsored > Link> > Degrees for working adults in as fast as 1 year. Bachelors, > Masters, Associates. Top schools > _________________________________________________________________ > Prova Live.com: il tuo mondo on line, con notizie, sport, meteo e molto > altro > ancora. > http://www.live.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:16:20 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: that guy on youtube sings joni so nice to see the yunguns digging Joni! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: A Case of You- Youtube.com So wonderful to see talent mean so much more than all the technological wizardry available out there. Jerry > > > And enjoy it I did, Sue - boy > that guy has a great voice. > Thanks for sending the link, ya silly ol' goofball > you. > > Bob > > NP: The Beatles, "Michelle" > _____________________________________________________________________________ > _______ > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. > $510k for $1,698/mo. > Calculate new payment! > www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:41:19 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) I think your mother was very wise... but I goofed...it should have been "pretty IS as pretty does" > >oops bree i hadn't read your post..it says it all > >---------- Original Message ------------- >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:54:46 -0800 >From: "Bree Mcdonough" >To: nurielt@yahoo.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Kakki's visit with Joni (now joni again) > > > >Interesting thoughts here..Nuri. As far as Joni being a beauty? >When > >I think of Joni just on solely her appearance ..I think of her not >looking > >so ordinary. She certainly doesn't have those classic beauty > >features.....which bore me..the late Grace of Monaco comes to mind. I > >think of the pretty faces of today...again ..boring to me...I don't look > >twice...we all know them...in the entertainment news daily...of them .... > >"pretty as pretty does". I think Joni has one of the most interesting > >faces..and so NOT ordinary...she fits her music. > > > >I think of the documentary ..FACES....in one segment they showed babies > >reaction to pictures of faces.. the "prettier" the face.. the more >favorable > >reaction from the baby. Or a dimensional mold of what is considered a > >beautiful face..that it seems all beautiful faces fit those exact > >dimensions. Now that is scary to me. ....only a fraction off... this >way > >or that way...and your NOT considered a pretty person. > > > > > >"beautiful as a foot".....forgot the artist here... anyway...I saw >Annie > >Lebowitz (sp?) recently...now definitely not your classic beauty....but >what > >she had to say was so interesting...and the way she presented >herself....I > >found everything about her very attactive. Not in under the covers >sort > >of way either...just her whole persona. What am I trying to say..she > >became pretty in her OWN way. > > > > > >I guess there are more important things to rail against..not that I'm > >railing...but just another pretty face ..I turn off as quiclly as I can > >change the TV remote. > > > > > >Bree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> As for Joni's beauty - > >> Can you imagine the very same gifted Joni (with the very same >artistic > >>quality) only with a slight change of being "ugly", managing to start a > >>career, appealing both to guys like Crosby and the industry that >followed > >>and the smaller crowd she had when she was a young woman? I guess we >would > >>say something like, sure, she was brilliant enough to make even if she >had > >>a moustache, or that she was always too honorable to bend to that part >of > >>the game and always above it, (and in our case, now, many years since >then, > >>we would probably say that we're too hooked on her to even care about >her > >>looks that much) - but is that really the case? > > > >> > Nuri > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces > >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us _________________________________________________________________ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 19:17:45 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Kate's visit with Joni And! (Just to keep these good memories from last weekend alive)... when I exited from the 'backstage', the first person I saw was Jeff who knew from my expression (& I fell faux fainting into his arms) that I'd met her. Then I floated towards Kakki & told her that I'd met Joni & that she was so beautiful... to which she grinned & said she'd had the same experience when first meeting her, then said something like, congratulations, now you've been initiated. LOL but true! And I am certain that it is not a star struck thing, I can testify to that having met a half gazillion or stars over the years... Joni has an aura, a light, coming from her in some subtle way (some people are cackling I can hear you! but I don't care, it is true) - --which is why perhaps so many wanted to be close to her whenever she came out into the gallery--- not all celebrities have that or are swarmed like that >Howevah..I said almost the same exact words the first time I met her at the taping in '98. Joni absolutely IS much more beautiful in person than photos or film portray. It's amazing. And I loved hearing Kate B. having the same reaction of many of us who have experienced this. Kakki< ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #327 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)