From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #305 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, October 26 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 305 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- joni & god [] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 [Lady Isadora ] Re: Joni word of the week [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: joni & god [Paul In MD ] Joni Wembley 83 [MattJones ] Re: Joni Wembley 83 [waytoblue@comcast.net] RE: Joni word of the week ["P. Henry" ] Re: HAPPY B-DAY MAGS!!! & Hejira clip download ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [karen ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Michael Flaherty ] Re: joni & god [Catherine McKay ] RE: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? ["Azeem" ] Re: Marcie [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Marcie [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: joni & god [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? [Nuriel Tobias Subject: joni & god Ron wrote: "i have no doubt at all that she has glimpsed & understands the nature of god. but i still dont get the sense or feeling that she has experienced the power & presence of god in that intense & personal way. ive been trying to put into words how it feels - but i cant. bet joni could tho :-)" I think I know where you are coming from and know it is hard to put into words. I think that even if she did have that experience, she might also be at a loss for words. Had a similar discussion with a friend last week where we were wondering how one can articulately or adequately convey their own intense God experiences to others. Both of us felt that such experiences were nearly impossible to convey and also often something very personal that one would not be particularly inclined to try to share with others. It was part of a larger topic regarding people who are always spilling their spiritual guts, so to speak, with any audience in front of them. Seemed to us that those who probably had the most real and deepest experiences were probably the most quiet about them. So it may be impossible for us to really know about Joni based on only her many chatty interviews and her lyrics. We would probably have to spend a lot of time with her to get a good sense of it all. And even then, who knows? I do think a long talk about it with her would be tremendous, however ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Lady Isadora Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 JMDL Digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:39:35 -0400 >From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >Subject: Joni & The Holy Tree >"I don't know who I prayed to. I addressed it to the Christmas tree. I >said 'I am not a cripple, not a cripple, not a cripple. I'm going home for >Christmas. If I can pull this off, I'll make it up to you.'" >- -Joni Mitchell >She made a vow to the little Christmas tree that decorated her hospital >room that if she got better, she'd do something special in life. She got >better; the rest is history. At least that's the way I remember it. >- -Anne Bayin, Joni's childhood friend Joni would have made a great Druidess-- or a great Witch. Praying to a sacred tree at Yuletide, chanting a little healing spell on herself... she was/is a natural. Mother Nature is full of polarities and dualities, and obviously She can be cruel as well as kind-- one can say that then She's in Her Crone or Destroyer aspect (about to enjoy Her annual run as the Hallowe'en Hag in a neighborhood near many of you), since Life cannot thrive unchecked-- there must always be limitation and pruning to make room for new life. Survival of the fittest and all. One could say that in the above healing experience Joni found the Goddess in herself, so to speak, and used it, consciously or unconsciously, being strengthened all the more by overcoming such adversity with the force of her own will to rise up and walk away from her own polio, making even greater magic with her life on a much grander scale later on. But then, that was no mean feat of hers, either, I'd say, back by the childhood Yule/Xmas tree. I've always found Joni to be very magical. >>...to walk again. > >And more importantly for Joni....DANCE! >Bob My thoughts exactly! ;-) May your steps be joyful in the Lady's Dance of Life! Isadora http://www.ladyisadora.com "Well-behaved women rarely make history." - --Laurel Thatcher Ulrich - --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 2006 11:01:25 +0100 From: Benedicte Nielsen Subject: Re: Joni and God/dess and us Hi Lady! Just to clarify: I WAS alluding to you when I said everyone seems to think Joni has the same religious beliefs as themselves - of course it's an exaggeration because you didn't say she is a devoted goddessworshipper. I did read your response with interest, I know nothing about goddess worship and wouldn't onw how to read any references to it in her songs. Ron was the only one who said he has a close relationship to God which he thinks Joni does not - so my comment "How Dare you think you are more enlightened" was to him. My other comment was about Joni herself - I think people identify or sympathise a lot with her, that is why many emails will say 'I'm sure Joni would agree with me'. Ha, it gives a new perspectiveon 'I see something of myself in everyone'... Best Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:48:50 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni word of the week In a message dated 10/24/2006 11:52:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: Any banana? >Banyans 1. [n] a loose fitting jacket; originally worn in India. 2. [n] East Indian tree that puts out aerial shoots that grow down into the soil forming additional trunks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul In MD Subject: Re: joni & god Not sure if anyone's chimed in with this, but included on the Woman Of Heart And Mind dvd Joni talks about this incident. She states that she talked to "the tree" and I just assumed it was some sort of mythical tree god. She also talks in another extra about Job questioning God and she says "... and I think he SHOULD be questioned ..." (emphasis hers). I think she uses bits and pieces of various religions to form her own religion of sorts -- heavy on native American spirituality though. I also think Joni would like it that this thread is titled "Joni & god" and not the other way around. ;) Paul In MD -- who's running way behind this morning because none of his Yahoo Jonilist mail came through yesterday and I read way too long this am -- wonder if I can take a Patti Parlette-like JMOCD sick day today? Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: to walk again> Every time I've read or heard that story she's stated that she prayed to the Christmas Tree in her room and not to God. She probably realized at an early age that if there was a God with any powers he would never inflict such pain & suffering upon an innocent child. (I guess if you're Shinto then praying to a tree would equate with praying to God.) I tried to search the library for an article but the search engine wasn't working. Reminds me of Lance Armstrong's reply when someone asked him about whether he was thanking God for curing him of his testicular cancer - he said he didn't give God any thanks because then he'd also have to blame him for giving him the cancer in the first place. Bob Joni, "Refuge Of The Roads" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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I'll use the same technique to pass it on. > First person to hit me up ON THE LIST will receive a copy, then you should pass > it on to to someone else. > > Thanks! > Matt, Athens GA > > > rats live on no evil star > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:35:50 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: RE: Joni word of the week "Banyans", a powerful word around here... In this tropical island culture where I live the banyan tree, a rather strange plant that, instead of a trunk, has as it's base instead, the loosely intertwined roots which then shoot out as the branches as well. a wierd looking thing, especially at night. The locals believe that their local spirits, called 'tautaumona' which means 'ancient ones', live in these trees and that they must 'show respect' if they pass by asking permission because if they don't the spirits will make them or their children sick. They also believe that these spirits visit their homes at night and leave bruises on them or their children which many attest to seeing. Another belief they have is that the tautaumona may come to you and ask to be your 'friend' and that they cannot refuse. people thus affected have been known to go out for no reason and live in the jungle and also to exibit great strength but they will be overcome with pain if they come anywhere near a Christian church. 'Banyans'... Cheers, Pat - -- "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:58:50 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: HAPPY B-DAY MAGS!!! & Hejira clip download Happy Birthday Mags!!!! May you have many more! Pat, thanks for the Heijira clip! It takes a while to download on "Ole Bessie" but I will try to see it! Sherelle Pat wrote: HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you MAGS and many happy returns!!! Also here is a freebee Hejira clip download for all Jonibuds! http://www.yousendit.com/download/%2BcZGIdFEUTk%3D Cheers, Pat _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:00:56 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Joni word of the week Hey, maybe THAT'S who Joni was praying to that day in the hospital... Bob NP: The Allman Brothers, "Jessica" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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May you have many more! Pat, thanks for the Heijira clip! It takes a while to download on "Ole Bessie" but I will try to see it! Sherelle Pat wrote: HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you MAGS and many happy returns!!! Also here is a freebee Hejira clip download for all Jonibuds! http://www.yousendit.com/download/%2BcZGIdFEUTk%3D Cheers, Pat _________________________________________________________________ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us &hmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:38:08 -0400 From: karen Subject: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Hi folks, Is Joni really making a new album??? Could it really be true??? Do you know when it will be released? Ohmygod!!! What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? What do you think?? loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:44:13 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #396 Hi Isadora... I'm curious...do you like Joni because she is magical or are you a witch who just happens to like her music? Do more witches appreciate her music then non-witches? Thanks in advance! Bree magic with her life on a much grander scale later on. But then, that was no mean feat of hers, either, I'd say, back by the childhood Yule/Xmas tree. I've always found Joni to be very magical. > > >>...to walk again. > > > >And more importantly for Joni....DANCE! > > >Bob > >My thoughts exactly! ;-) > > >May your steps be joyful >in the Lady's Dance of Life! > >Isadora > >http://www.ladyisadora.com > > >"Well-behaved women rarely make history." >--Laurel Thatcher Ulrich > >--------------------------------- >Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:51:30 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? She really is writing and recording. Whether it ever gets released and she tours is pretty much up to her. We are all as excited and hoping as much as you are, believe me. Jerry > Hi folks, > > Is Joni really making a new album??? > Could it really be true??? > Do you know when it will be released? > > Ohmygod!!! > > What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? > > I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I > had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about > the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? > > What do you think?? > > loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:58:38 -0400 From: karen Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Ohmygod, it's true, then, I just heard this second and I about fell off my chair! Thanks for the confirmation, Jerry. Wow. How great is this!!! I am so excited!!! You guys must all be so excited too! Hey, does Joni live in Woodside? I was there this weekend, and I bumped into someone on a road there, and she looked so much like Joni's daughter ... But I didn't want to ask ... Probably just my wild imagination anyway. OK, another question. Are you guys ( I say you guys because I am still a newbie on this list! ) in touch with Joni's manager, I mean are you friendly? Like would he/she give you the heads up on any touring Joni might consider doing? Now that is a concert I would travel far and wide to see if need be!!! I know I am singing to the choir here and you all must be so happy, but ... WOW! : ) loveandaffectionkaren On 10/25/06 2:51 PM, "Jerry Notaro" wrote: > She really is writing and recording. Whether it ever gets released and she > tours is pretty much up to her. We are all as excited and hoping as much as > you are, believe me. > > Jerry > > > > >> Hi folks, >> >> Is Joni really making a new album??? >> Could it really be true??? >> Do you know when it will be released? >> >> Ohmygod!!! >> >> What do you think, you guys are the experts, will she tour it??? >> >> I have never (aaaaargh) seen Joni live and it is a life-long dream, which I >> had really given up hope on, given her whole retirement and feelings about >> the music biz. But ... Dare I hope??? >> >> What do you think?? >> >> loveandaffectionkaren ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:09:44 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? What do you think??> The album is a definite - I'd be REAL surprised if she was up for a tour. Of course I hope I'm REAL wrong! Bob NP: Judy Dyble with Songs From The Blue House, "I Don't Know Where I Stand" (pretty nice, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6P3_ZLhOkc ) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Of > course I hope I'm REAL wrong! > > Bob > > NP: Judy Dyble with Songs From The Blue House, "I Don't Know Where I Stand" > (pretty nice, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6P3_ZLhOkc ) > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - > ----------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. 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Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:42:54 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Oh by all means - let's hope for the moon! And it's certainly withing the realms of possibility that she'd do an unplugged-intimate show with Blade like the one she played at the Gene Autry Museum or the Fez in NYC - that would be sweet. Even a couple of one-offs on some TV shows would be awesome. And it might be that since she's not going to be marketing this one the same (selling it through the internet or through some indie or something) that she's more motivated to perform. Time will tell and obviously we'll all wish for as much Joni as we can get. Bob NP: World Party, "Hollywood" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Recently, a baby boomer I know in Los Angeles named Morley Bartnoff... told me he watched the show every week. "That show had an amazing effect on me because not only did I realize this was some kind of left-of-center character that they actually gave his own television show to, but it was the first time that, I think, anybody got to see Joni Mitchell and Bob Dylan and Kris Kristofferson and Derek and the Dominoes with Eric Clapton on TV." Happy Wednesday, Jack Harney _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni & god - --- Paul In MD wrote: I think she uses bits and pieces > of various religions to form her own religion of > sorts -- heavy on native American spirituality > though. That's how it looks to me. She has sometimes said that's she's Christian/Jewish/Buddhist and/or y'know there may be more. I'm not quoting her and I'm just too damn lazy to look it up (plus I'm either using the site's search capabilities all wrong or it's just not working today) but I remember a quote something like that. She uses a lot of references to native spirituality when she's talking about issues like the environment. She also mentions ancient and modern(ish)philosophers. She seems to be a seeker of some kind of spiritual or philosophical truth without being tied to any one belief system. One of the origins of the word "religion" apparently means "to tie fast" or "to bind". Interesting that, if it's true, because I suppose the ties that bind could either be chains that imprison you or simply ties that link you - to the world, to other people, to the environment, or whatever. It seems that some would rather be told exactly what to do because it's easy and I suppose the fundamentalist old-time wrath- o'-god beliefs appeal to them (because it's easier than thinking about things, because when you dig down deep, you lost good sleep). I think Joni sees the fundamental interconnecteness of things. I wonder if she has read any Douglas Adams? "Don't interrupt the sorrow" has to be one of my favourites for lyrics. (I think you can guess from my Joni-name.) The imagery is very evocative. The lyrics manage to be dense and terse at the same time and contain a lot in phrases or sentences of a few words each. Almost like haiku but with a different number of syllables. (Yeesh, I'm so full of shit sometimes.) It's like every part of it has meaning, even if sometimes we can't figure out what the hell she's talking about (like the notches, liberation doll, the serpent and the Ethiopian wall). I wonder if she was angry when she wrote it. Righteously angry. It all sounds very focussed to me. Most of us lose count of how many drinks we've had, once we've reached "a few." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:31:13 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? I was certainly surprised to hear there's a new album in the pipeline; I'm sad to say, however, that I'm not in the least bit excited about it. I'm not dreading it, as I did Travelogue [which despite my dread actually managed to be worse than I'd feared - without wishing to re-ignite that debate]. If she writes songs that suit what's left of her voice and doesn't drown them in syrup, we may have something good. I'm in the strange position of *never* having been really excited about a Joni album, for all that she's just about my favourite songwriter of all. This is because I didn't discover her until the mid 80s, by which time the last of her seminal works was already half a decade in the past (yes, I believe Mingus to be the last great Joni album). So while I've always been keen to hear the next one, because none have them since I tuned in have been that special, it's never been the sort of excitement I've felt at, say, the next Bowie album (although he had a terrible decade, there was always a hope that he'd come up with something wonderful; and he did deliver in patches for most of the 90s, and then came up with a stunner with Heathen). I sometimes regret that I didn't discover Joni sooner, so I could have followed her decadus mirabilis, the 1970s, in real time, and been thrilled and agog with anticipation to see how she could follow up an album as perfect as Blue, and so on. I haven't given up completely: if Dylan can rediscover some good form - although I think his recent stuff has been ludicrously overpraised - after what seemed like centuries of humdrum releases, then surely Joni can too! Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 24/10/2006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:14:21 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Marcie Jerry wrote: After several listens I asked what she thought of it, and she thought it such a sad song. Funny. I always found it sort of Autumnal, like the seasons, so not sad at all. Hi Jerry, LOL I let a non-Joni fan listen to Marcie because that is her boss' name. She had the same impression, that it is a sad song. Maybe this is typical of people who aren't that into Joni. I don't hear it as a sad song either. I like your "Autumnal" analogy... yes, that is much more the way I hear it, very colorful somewhat commonplace experiences. I really get into the Hudson River part. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:28:20 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Marcie Bob wrote: I'm with ya, Em - it's killer sad. With lines like: "Dust her tables with his shirt and Wave another day goodbye" So much lonely and desolate imagery, rain and cold and grays. LOLLLLL whoa, and I just said maybe seeing it as a sad song is typical of people who aren't that into Joni. Sorry guys! I see it more as "loner" imagery rather than lonely. I've always taken it to be about a woman who wants to be pinned down to a man but not really... like Joni seemed to live back then. The song was supposed to be about Marcie who she met overseas but who had lived close to her in NYC without them having met, but it didn't turn out that way Joni said. At least that is what I remember of Joni talking about the song. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni & god Catherine > wrote: --- Paul In MD wrote: "I think she uses bits and pieces of various religions to form her own religion" "That's how it looks to me." I'll take it further and say that God is what happened right after Emmy May came back a bottle blonde and right before the gossips had a gourmet feast. Nuri - --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:47:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Is Joni REALLY doing a new album??? Bob.Muller wrote: "And it's certainly withing the realms of possibility that she'd do an unplugged-intimate show with Blade like the one she played at the Gene Autry Museum" Oh that was such a great show, i just have to express my gratitude to you again for sending me the CD. BTW, is Joni open taping? - --------------------------------- There's so many recordings of her live shows out there (since her very early shows up to God knows when) that it seems like she and or her management don't have a taping policy. Or does she prefer that people do not tape the shows? or is it ok as long as they don't sell the recording in the future? Nuri - --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. 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