From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #287 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, October 8 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 287 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Comparisons [Bobsart48@aol.com] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?diltz=20and=20photos=20of=20joni?= ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=] Good Joni Fotage ["Jeffrey Zinkerman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 11:16:09 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Comparisons Lieve quoted Nerina Pallot: "I maintain that if Joni Mitchell had been born a man she would have been bigger than Bob Dylan. I absolutely believe that - she Sh*ts on him lyrically. She's a better musician, a better singer... everything about her is better. And I love Bob Dylan. But if I have to go to the grave over one of them it would be Joni Mitchell." I believe it was Benedicte who replied: "First of all I'm glad she was not born a man, and secondly I am glad she was never as big as Dylan. I like my favourites a bit exclusive..." I confess to evil thinking along similar lines, a la mode of, say, Larry David. In a sense, Joni's relative lack of mass popularity allows space for my view that she is, indeed, the greatest artist of our time. In my view, mass popularity would virtually preclude such a claim. Of course, I recognize that while this relative lack of mass appeal might arguably be a necessary condition, it is certainly not sufficient. That is where the views of the "congnoscenti" come into play. Other artists and critics (along with me ;-)) agree in percentages disproportionate to those of the masses. I agree with Ms Pallot's overall assessment - not only in comparison to Dylan, but to those that I have loved (including the Beatles) and those singer songwriters I have admired (there a perhaps a couple dozen in that category) and in some cases nearly loved (a handful). To me, however, the gap between Joni and Dylan is greater on the various musical levels than on the lyrical level. There is simply no comparison musically. In terms of importance in a socio-political sense, Joni suffers by comparison to Dylan; she was not so bold (though not so presumptuous), not such a pioneer to the game - and, of course, not so widely heard. But the artistry and timelessness of her lyrical work..........even in her early political work (Fiddle and the Drum), which rings truer work now than it did then, there is a longer, truer, more objective and balanced view. IMO In certain realms (e.g., athletics), women are precluded from achieving at objectively higher levels than men. In other realms, where that is not so, women have not yet done so, for whatever reasons (one example is high level tournament bridge, with which I am well acquainted). However, I think it ironic that when - in this case, in the realm of music and art - a woman does outshine the men in her (singer songwriter) category, such recognition still comes late if at all, and reservedly if not reluctantly. Perhaps it is a matter of courage, or ego. And of course, there is more subjectivity inherent in evaluating artistic achievement than in certain other arenas. I think it even more ironic, though, that the clamor is not even greater among women. Why is that, I wonder ? Joni is a shining example of a woman who is the greatest at what she does. She's like ....... Tiger Woods :-) So, bravo to Nerina Pallot for speaking out! (And let's hear it from the rest of you women out there - go ahead, even if it bruises some male egos !) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 09:40:36 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?diltz=20and=20photos=20of=20joni?= i can't beleive that I just read about this opening yesterday! damn talk about running behind the times! Press Release Source: LA CITY BEAT , september 28th edition, Morrison Hotel Gallery Morrison Hotel(TM) Gallery - Fine Art Music Photography to Launch Los Angeles Location With the Exhibition 'The Photography Of Henry Diltz' Thursday September 14, 10:00 am ET Legendary Rock Photographer Diltz, a Gallery Co-Founder, Will Attend Artist's Reception on Sept. 30 and the Oct. 1 Public Opening LOS ANGELES, Sept. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Legendary L.A.-based photographer Henry Diltz is one of the world's all-time great rock 'n roll photographers, and quite possibly the person who defined the genre. Over the past 40 years, he's visually chronicled countless contemporary music icons, creating some of the most famous images ever taken of Jackson Browne, Crosby, Stills & Nash, the Eagles, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor and others. Diltz has also shot over 200 album covers, including The Doors' 1970 classic Morrison Hotel, which became the name of the music-centric gallery venture Diltz co-founded in 2001 (with existing locations in SoHo/NYC and La Jolla, CA). This month, Morrison Hotel Gallery - Fine Art Music Photography (MHG) opens a new space in Los Angeles, the city whose extraordinary music scene Diltz has recorded so memorably. The inaugural exhibition, "The Photography Of Henry Diltz" -- the largest retrospective of his work ever shown in L.A. -- opens with an invitation-only artist's reception on Saturday, September 30, 6-10PM. The public opening is Sunday, October 1 from 12-6PM, and Diltz will also be on hand for that. MHG is located at 7517 W. Sunset Blvd. (1/2 block West of Guitar Center), LA, CA, 90046, and is instantly identifiable by the signature Morrison Hotel window lettering that fans will recognize from the album art. Inside, the MHG team's self-professed "fanaticism and passion about rock and roll" sets it apart with a sole focus on music imagery, and the stories behind the truly amazing work. MHG's L.A. launch will be commemorated with the offering of a luminous black & white image of Joni Mitchell taken by Diltz near the singer-songwriter's Laurel Canyon home in 1971. The 16" x 20" photographs will be available in limited editions of ten platinum and fifty silver gelatin prints, each signed by Henry and Joni. Diltz is known for his affinity for using available, natural light, his lyrical sense of composition, and the trust and rapport he has with his subjects -- all qualities thoroughly infusing this exquisite portrait. Born in Kansas City, MO, Henry Diltz moved around the globe with his family while growing up. He briefly attended West Point, then took up the banjo and co-founded the Modern Folk Quartet. While on tour with MFQ, he bought an old camera and started casually shooting -- he proved to be a natural, and the rest is pop culture history. In addition to the artists already mentioned, "The Photography Of Henry Diltz" will feature images of Keith Richards, America, Jimi Hendrix, Neil Young and others. MHG was co-founded by Henry Diltz and partners Peter Blachley, Richard Horowitz and Sam Milgrom. They also represent the work of world-class photographers including Jim Marshall, Neal Preston, Danny Clinch, Gered Mankowitz, Bob Gruen, Baron Wolman and others. In 2006, in addition to adding an L.A. venue to their growing group of galleries, MHG will world premiere a series of limited edition photographs of the legendary Ray Charles taken by his longtime manager Joe Adams, who will hand-sign all the prints. For more information, log on to www.morrisonhotelgallery.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Morrison Hotel Gallery return to Ida's LA Woman Confidential home page for more Doors news and reviews I am definately running over there today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 01:02:40 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Zinkerman" Subject: Good Joni Fotage I just watched the Last Waltz for the first time in a long time, and I am suddenly deparate for some good Joni footage. Someone mentioned several months back a clip " Clip: CSNY&J - "Helpless" Wembley '74"; Anyone have the link to this clip or any other good clips that are OK to download ? 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