From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #281 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, October 2 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 281 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Sea is full of sheep [Garret ] Carey ...winds etc., Mles of aisles..... surprisingly there is joni sort of content in this!!! [Lucy Hone <] RE: Turbulent Indigo, CMIARS and a Q about Corinna [Benedicte Nielsen ] Re: Barangrill [Bob Muller ] Martin Sexton - Woodstock video [Bob Muller ] RE: Barangrill ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] RE: Sea is full of sheep ["Richard Flynn" ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Barangrill=2C=20and=20old=20threads=20to o?= ["=?I] Re: Martin Sexton - Woodstock video ["Cassy" ] Joni Covers, Volume 81 - Oktoberfest! [Bob Muller ] "The Songs of Joni Mitchell" in concert: A PLUG ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Barangrill, and old threads to o [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:50:14 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Sea is full of sheep Apologies if anyone has already mentiond this.... I am very sure that there are bootlegs from early 1970s where Joni explains this lyric. I like the different interpretations mentioned and would like to think that they are all somewhat true. Joni was recalling her time spent in Greece and how locals would call "sheepy sheepy" after her and her friends as this is the Greek word for or pronunciation of hippy. So the sea is, in fact, full of hippies. Now if i have made this up i apologise, but i am sure i have that on a bootleg somewhere. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:43:25 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Carey ...winds etc., Mles of aisles..... surprisingly there is joni sort of content in this!!! Coming in late on this (well I do have a country to run!!) Interesting thoughts on what we hear in songs. I always took Carey to have been written in Southern France or Spain.. and the wind in from Africa would be the Sirocco, Tramontaine or the Mistral.. these winds bring with them irritable mood shifts (try sorting long hair out in a strong wind and no wonder!!!!) and distrubed and interrupted sleep.... as they are dry, hot winds carrying dust and high positive ion charges... In Marseilles the murder and suicide rates rise when the Mistral has been blowing for a long time. Lst year after Fest, staying with friends in Perpignan one particularly bad night of winds nearlly took away our tent and left us with gritty mouths...... yuck..... As to the Miles of Aisles sea being full of sheep, maybe she is referring to the grey lumpiness of the Mediterranean waves when the winds are all over the place. When the wind is high against an opposing current there is a flat grey lumpiness that could be described as sheep..... or may be she is saying that there are crowds of grey untanned people flocking to swim in the sea? The word Sheep can have so many connotations.. cowards, crowd followers, meek people, wooly ruminants, etc., Blue as an album is very European to me, Joni seems to spend a lot of time. lyrically in Europe.. and maybe these are some of the feelings she had and she paints them as word pictures for us to hear. I also get the sense of observation in her songs and words from this time, a sense of being outside her emotions, a feeling of stream of consciousness and of time passing very quickly and a need to grab and hold these fleeting moments whilst her muse was with her. I could, of course be way out of any spectrum of anyone else's feelings about any of this, but then life and musical enjoyment is all about personal experience isn't it...........? or is it just me? Queen Lulu on a very autumnal morning in UK... I really must go and dust my kingdom... you just cannot get the staff any more!!! Love and hugs Queen Lulu >From: "Ruth Davis" lacyslvs@juno.com > >Okay, another Carey question. On the "Miles of Aisles" >album, when Joni is singing "Carey," live, she says >something I've never been able to decipher ever since >1973. > >The wind is in from Africa. >The sea is full of _______. > >It sounds like she says "sheet." >Yet, that meaning has never made much sense to me. ------------------------------ Date: 01 Oct 2006 14:53:37 +0100 From: Benedicte Nielsen Subject: RE: Turbulent Indigo, CMIARS and a Q about Corinna On Sep 30 2006, Richard Flynn wrote: >"Corrinna, Corrina" is a traditional folk song that Joni adapts. It >contains "Got a bird that whistles." Here are the lyrics as Dylan performed >them on Frewheelin': > >http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/corrina.html > >Here's and interesting article I stumbled across: > >http://www.utexas.edu/cofa/music/erlmannseries/corrina.htm - -------------- Thanks! I admire these old lyrics that are so simple but stick with you anyway. BN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:19:11 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Re:Barandgrill 'Folly' is a town in New Jersey, not very far from Covapen. (you know, 'Blue, here is my song for you, in Covapen'....) Chuck (with apologies to Ashara) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:32:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Barangrill I just got back from a weekend road trip where we passed by a Pure gas station. We drove up to Rome, Ga for a friend's son's wedding. (Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam, maybe I'll go to Rome). Anyway, it ocurred to me that perhaps Joni did the same lyrical game in Barangrill that she employed in "Dancing Clown" where she took a bunch of horse's names and wrote a song around them. She has said that the guy at the gas pump singing Christmas songs was an actual happening, when she went to the gas station after a late night recording session. I never thought of all the gas station references in Barangrill. Great thread, y'all. Bob NP: Joni, "River" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Martin Sexton - Woodstock video Those of us who were at the Carnegie Hall show earler this year remember Martin Sexton's "Marcie" cover as a highlight. Here's a video of Martin playing a super-solid medley of "Woodstock" and "A Day In The Life", great vocals and guitar work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VCm2aUNTQ Bob NP: Wilco, "Ashes Of American Flags" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:51:55 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Barangrill Richard Flynn said, See: http://www.gassigns.org/pure.htm Growing up in Columbus, Ohio, we had both Humble and Pure gas stations. But since Joni grew up in SK, where they probably had "Esso" stations (as Catherine remembered in Toronto), I wasn't so sure the double meaning came from Joni's experience. (Is the connection solely in my head?) Looking at the link Richard provided, I found the missing link. There's a "Pure Oil" road map of Michigan. Michigan is very close to Ohio, so they probably had both Humble and Pure gas stations in Detroit when Joni was there. Jim L. np: appropriately enough, "My Back Pages", written by Bob Dylan and sung by Roger (Jim) McGuinn with back vocal by David Crosby. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:46:12 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Sea is full of sheep You have not made it up. If anyone wants to hear for themselves I put a version of "Carey" introduced by the "sheepy, sheepy" story up here (a zipped folder with 2 .mp3s): http://download.yousendit.com/2EF6CC3F004E9525 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:50 AM To: list Subject: Sea is full of sheep Apologies if anyone has already mentiond this.... I am very sure that there are bootlegs from early 1970s where Joni explains this lyric. I like the different interpretations mentioned and would like to think that they are all somewhat true. Joni was recalling her time spent in Greece and how locals would call "sheepy sheepy" after her and her friends as this is the Greek word for or pronunciation of hippy. So the sea is, in fact, full of hippies. Now if i have made this up i apologise, but i am sure i have that on a bootleg somewhere. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:00:05 -0700 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?LESLI=20A=20WATTS?=" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20Barangrill=2C=20and=20old=20threads=20to o?= Bob said: >I never thought of all the gas station references >in Barangrill. Great thread, y'all. > >Bob hey i agree. i almost afraid to get caught up in what did she mean ? because it takes me back to high school english where we would dissect a poem to the point i never wanted to read it again...What exactly did robert frost mean by the color red here? et al. but this discuusion just added life to one of my favorite songs. analysis at its best. thanks one of the things that keeps bringing me back to joni is the amazing multi-layered viewpoint in so many of her songs. " papa brought home the sugar' mama taught me the deeper meaning..."; i see things from such varied perspectives at different points in my life. and she stands up to this test of time. for me very few others do. i think she almost always has enticingly played with the literal and and spiritual. surely too, she includes herself as one of the sheep, and a deservedly proud one at that. to me all art is not complete until viewed..with the audience or viewer completing the art with their perspective.. enliving the work..and hopefully being energized and inspired. so thank you joni and you folks too. i lurk most of the time but i really enjoy reading all the thoughtful and passsionate(patti !) posts. you always give me something new to mull over. i like the political posts too...as long as the folks follow joni's dictate: " you be polite! " lesli too shy, frightened or busy to post. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 18:47:24 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Martin Sexton - Woodstock video Thanks for this little bit of sunshine in my day, Bob. I loved Martin Sexton's "Marcie" cover at Carnegie Hall. I wish they'd release a CD of that night's performances. Bettye Levette, Sonya Kitchell, Martin Sexton and The Wood Brothers were at the top of my list of favorite perfomances for the tribute. I'd love to hear them again. Of course there were more excellent performances but those four come to mind so readily. Warmly, Cassy NPIMH: The Wood Brothers fantastic cover of Black Crow From: "Bob Muller" <<< Those of us who were at the Carnegie Hall show earler this year remember Martin Sexton's "Marcie" cover as a highlight. Here's a video of Martin playing a super-solid medley of "Woodstock" and "A Day In The Life", great vocals and guitar work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_VCm2aUNTQ >>> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 81 - Oktoberfest! Well, it's October 1 which means two things...first, and most important (to me) is that it's my son's birthday (yes he was a Christmas holiday baby too), and I even got to put a Joni quote in the card I gave him..."now the boy is 20...". I no longer have a teenager in the family. And while I'm proud of him growin' up strong, I'm also very proud of this month's covers compilation - really one of the bestest batches I've cranked out in a while, with just a leetle cheese for added flavor. And here's what's on it: 1. Chuck Mitchell - Winter Lady: Yep, that's right. Joni's ex doing what might have been the very first Joni cover recorded, or certainly one of them. This was to have been the B-side of a 45 that never got released, so it's a JMDL exclusive! 2. Tilmann Hohn - Both Sides Now: A recent guitar instrumental with a light jazzy touch, from a 2005 Euro collection. A nice arrangement and pretty playing as well. 3. Roine Stolt - Sex Kills: I've raved about this one a time or two before, and I haven't changed my tune. This is one you can crank and rock out to, and the song is all the better for the energy they bring to it as a seven-and-a-half minute jam workout. And like most of the best Joni covers, it's from Europe - Roine Stolt is the guitarist for the Prog-Rock Flower Kings, who are getting ready to tour the US. 4. Annie & The Hedonists - River: Hailing from New York state, these folks really add some nice touches to Joni's tunes. 5. Annie & The Hedonists - That Song About The Midway: A really nice cover as well - Annie & Company take most of their cues from Bonnie's version, but hey - who wouldn't want to be compared to that? Nice mando too. 6. Albert Au - Both Sides Now: From Hong Kong, Albert's BSN is an enjoyable pop treatment. 7. Pia Schering Orchester - A Case Of You: Another lovely Euro cover, this one from Germany, a splendid 6-minute-plus gem with fabulous performances all around, a very strong band effort here. 8. Kim Scanlon - River: Kim's got a lovely voice and does a nice job with her version of River, mostly patterned after Holly Cole's version, with some nice added colors like a violin and some harmony vocals. 9. Tyler Yarema - Big Yellow Taxi: Just when I thought I'd heard all the ways to spin this song, Tyler & band come up with a nice jazzy lounge version. Swingin'. 10. The Ventures - Both Sides Now: One of my favorite bands ever, this recording is actually a fairly recent one from a collection of songs where they went back and recorded 60's tunes. I would have liked to hear them 'surf' it up a bit more but they still throw in lots of their own touches. 11. Honor Heffernan - Be Cool: Cool indeed! 12. Honor Heffernan - Blue: From Ireland, these two lovely Joni covers come from Honor's 2005 release "Fire And Ice". These are both excellent jazz interpretations that you're sure to like. 13. Sloan Wainwright - River: Yet another Wainwright gets into the act. Loudon's sister, Rufus' aunt, but she doesn't need any character references, the talent gene got to her as well, and this is a very moving version of River. Sloan's alto voice has the feeling of experience. Another 2005 release, it comes from Sloan's live holiday album "On A Night Before Christmas". 14. Tony Barber - Both Sides Now: Now a famous Australian game show host and TV personality, this comes from his earlier career as a recording artist. 15. Rhiannon - A Case Of You: From the world of women's music, Rhiannon might be better know to some of you as the lead singer of the group Alive, an all-female quintet. She's been recording for over 30 years, and her experience lends well to the emotion she puts into this excellent version of one of Joni's best-loved songs. 16. Cornelia - Chelsea Morning: One of the shortest Joni covers, clocking in at a scant 1:47. It fades out before it's even over - why? 17. Cornelia - Both Sides Now: We last heard from Cornelia on Volume 73 with her cover of Circle Game. Still don't know much about her, except - hey, she must be a big Joni fan, and that's all I need to know. 18. Stacy Sullivan - River: And we close another chapter in the greatest covers story ever told with a fine, spirited cover of River. Sounds like Shawn with a little country flair, almost sounds downright perky - maybe she was sorta glad that her baby said goodbye - that happens sometimes, y'know. So, there they are - 18 more singable swingable segments of Joni joy. You can go download the whole thing right here: http://www.yousendit.com/download/OTRppAOMYZc%3D Hope you do, and I hope you like these as much as I do. See you again in a couple of weeks for a retro collection, and more brand new stuff in a month as we start counting down to Volume 100! Hopefully folks will keep covering Joni, I think they probably will. Bob NP: Rhiannon, "A Case Of You" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:42:30 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: "The Songs of Joni Mitchell" in concert: A PLUG Dear Dave and EveryJonibody: This tribute shows sounds WONDERFUL! I wish I could get some heatwaves on the runway for Nov. 4th, but it won't work for me. I hope you get a lot of people, though, to share it with you. I will tell "that very good friend of mine" Alain about it. He's the friend who had dinner with people in Vancouver who know Joni and recently had dinner with her. He spent five years at UConn with me and just moved to SD last year. While he doesn't really "know" Joni, he has certainly learned something about her from me. (Rather unavoidable, you know? ). I would love for him to attend and get more Jonified. I listened to the link you provided and was moved more than I express. You got it Joni goin' on! Beautiful, beautiful! I am a mere music appreciator, and I'm in awe of all of you people who can make the music. Carry on! Might you record this? Or make a DVD? Sorry for the greed (the unravelling) -- clearly you have already worked long and hard on this and don't need more demands put on you.....but I'd buy it, for sure! And in a strange and gorgeous sequencing, right after hearing you and Robin et al from my iTunes box, then along comes Sherelle Cary Smith. Yes, it was her radio commercial from last year about her "Do What You Love" concert, which.....SYNCHRONICITY, was on October 1st, 2005. Just one dim year ago today. Yes, do what you love! And Happy October. Love, Patti P. But the real reason for this post is to PLUG our Joni birthday tribute show coming up in San Diego Nov 4th three days before Our Lady turns 63.... A smoking 6-piece band (comprising former Tom Scott and Frank Zappa band members) playing 2 1/2 hours of Joni music in a chronology through each period from the folk years, through the rock years, the jazz years and yes Bob, the eighties, on up to Turbulent Indigo, in a quiet "music only" listening space with good acoustics against a backdrop of slides of Joni's art (many thanks to Jamie Zoob for the scans). We have worked for the whole of 2006 preparing this show, refining the set, polishing arrangements, collecting guitars and played it to sold out rooms 7 or 8 times. Basically, this is a Joni night to remember!! If any of you can see your way to San Diego on Sat Nov 4th I can guarantee you a great night. Hear the demo here: http://robinadler.com/music.html Tickets ($15 via PayPal) available at http://robinadler.com/ products.html Press release with specifics: http://www.yousendit.com/download/ 8hcPhd9nYZc%3D Here is a testimonial received by email after the April 1st show: Robin's vocals were dead on. I thought Joni was actually in the room! Dave's guitar playing was superb and Barnaby's keyboard solos were over the top! I'd attend another gathering just to hear Both Sides Now and Woodstock again. Please forgive the self-promotion but if we can't plug to you guys, who? love Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:04:37 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 81 - Oktoberfest! Thank you Bob!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:30:50 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sea is full of sheep, now seagulls Thank you Richard...I haven't listened to this one in a while..... Speaking of the sea...I went to see one of my favorite Jersey shore musicians, Bob Burger, last night at Mcloone's Pier House Restaurant in Long Branch..... The back of the bar and restaurant is all windows and they have the beach lit up which affords you this spectacular view of the atlantic ocean.....there had to be hundreds of seagulls bobbing in the ocean. A front must have been coming in carrying with it many bluefish perhaps...lots of white capped waves rolling in.....anyway it was really beautiful. I wish I had my camera with me.(must remember to always have it with me) I've never seen anything quite like it. Soon the fishing boats were nearing closer to the shoreline. This place is new and is owned and operated by Tim McLoone, also a musician...I don't know if any of you know or heard of him, but he runs the Holiday express shows which travel nationwide. There was a wedding going on upstairs, and soon the wedding party came downstairs...lo and behold, but who should I bump into but our very own Gregg Cagno. Hi Gregg:~) rosie in nj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:29:51 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: sjc - royal drummers of burundi Hi Victor, I'm so glad you will be able to see them! I love those drums in "the Jungle Line" I would love to see them too! Sherelle Victor wrote: I'm planning on going to see them. They're coming to the Rialto Theatre later this month in Atlanta and since I'm a GSU student I get half off( and sometimes comps). I might even be hooking up with Jody that weekend who will be in Chattanooga! Victor NP: Braves vs Astros On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:23 PM, M C wrote: >for those who really like the sound of the burundi drums on 'the jungle >line', the royal drummers of burundi are touring. if you google 'royal >drummers of burundi' you'll get places and times. > > - mc > > >--------------------------------- >Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Barangrill - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > Growing up in Columbus, Ohio, we had both Humble and > Pure gas stations. But > since Joni grew up in SK, where they probably had > "Esso" stations (as > Catherine remembered in Toronto), I wasn't so sure > the double meaning came > from Joni's experience. (Is the connection solely > in my head?) > Yeah, but she was a California girl by then, had lived in the US (east, middle and west) for quite a while and would be familiar with US gas companies and road signs. Lori apparently said (back in '03) that Humble was pronounced with a silent H. Kind of like Uriah 'Eep, then, who was ever so 'umble. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:51:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Barangrill, and old threads to o - --- LESLI A WATTS wrote: > Bob said: > > >I never thought of all the gas station references > >in Barangrill. Great thread, y'all. > > > >Bob > > hey i agree. i almost afraid to get caught up in > what did she mean ? because it takes me back to > high school english where we would dissect a poem to > the point i > never wanted to read it again...What exactly did > robert frost mean by the color red here? et al. > > but this discuusion just added life to one of my > favorite songs. analysis at its best. thanks > I remember that all too well. In English class it was bad, but in French, it was even worse. I had a course called "Analyse de texte" that dissected a short poem down to the letter, I swear. I have never been so bored in my life. I think it's true that a person can die of boredom. More likely, they would do themself in just to escape the boredom. I doubt that most authors or poets sit there and think, "I'm going to put this particular symbol in just to show everyone how clever I am and to make people pick my stuff to pieces." If they do, I don't want to know about it. I'm usually not interested in knowing which particular person Joni might have been talking about in a song, but when you can get a multitude of meaning out of the words, I'm all for it. That's what keeps her interesting many years later. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:58:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 81 - Oktoberfest! - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Well, it's October 1 which means two > things...first, and most important (to me) is > that it's my son's birthday (yes he was a > Christmas holiday baby too), and I even got to > put a Joni quote in the card I gave him..."now > the boy is 20...". I no longer have a teenager in > the family. > Thanks, Mister Muller, Musikmeister. And best wishes to Nathan as well. My girl will be 20 in February. Scary to think about it. They really do grow up fast. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:11:00 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: DVD Live At Wembley Arena 1983 Finally! It has taken me months but, my brother (who has the software) has finally converted the 1983 Wembley Arena concert to NTSC format. Unfortunately, the menu was lost in the transition but the concert is excellent quality. I am now ready to send both the NTSC and PAL versions on to share with everyone. The NTSC version can go to someone in North America but I would like to continue the PAL version circulating in Australia for a bit longer. I am having other copies made so, I will send the PAL version back to the UK in a while. You know the deal; when you get it, make a copy and send it on to the next person. To be fair to those who only receive the digest, I will send them to the first person in North America and Australia to request it on list. Do not write to me off list. When the next digest arrives in my In box, I will send the NTSC copy to the first person in North America to request it and the first Australian will get the PAL copy. Mark in Sydney NP Blemish - David Sylvian ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #281 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)