From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #279 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 30 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 279 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Levon Helm: house concert in Woodstock, NY every 2 weeks ["Music Is S] Joni screensaver ["Anita Tedder" ] Re: I love Travelogue! [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Barangrill [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: I love Travelogue! [Bob Muller ] Re: I love Travelogue! [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Barangrill [Em ] Re: Barangrill [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Nerina Pallot and Joni [ReckersL@ebrd.com] sjc, Indian film, then Joseph on the radio ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Barangrill [Catherine McKay ] Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Barangrill [Em ] Holy Sheet, Batman! ["Ruth Davis" ] Re: Holy Sheet, Batman! ["Cassy" ] Re: Barangrill [Susan Guzzi ] re: Barangrill ["mia _" ] Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? ["anon anon" ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #275 ["Paul Headon" ] The sea is full of sheep ("Carey" in the "Miles Of Aisles" releases) ["Ji] RE: Barangrill ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 02:22:57 -0500 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Re: Levon Helm: house concert in Woodstock, NY every 2 weeks There was a long article about these about 6+ months ago in the New York Times, you can probably google for it. they sound fun - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" To: "NortheastJonifest" Cc: "JMDL" Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:19 PM Subject: Levon Helm: house concert in Woodstock, NY every 2 weeks >I don't know if I'll make it to JoniFest in 07, but I read in Rolling Stone > that might interest some. Levon Helm lives in Woodstock, New York which a > side trip from the Full Moon Resort. > > In the latest Rolling Stone, they say he has a house concert in his barn > every 2 weeks. He calls it "The Midnight Ramble". Apparently, his voice > is > back and he's open for business. He said he runs it from his website and > tickets are $100 per person. It's far from a cheap ticket but hey, it's 2 > bands then Levon Helm in his own barn. > > It's like seeing the Margo Timmins in a small night club (which happens > all > the time and I will always think it's some kind of miracle.) > > All the best, > Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:27:45 +0100 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: Joni screensaver I am very pleased to have a new computer and feel like I am joining the cyber race. Sadly, my old computer had my Joni art screensaver and I can't find it anywhere on searches. Anyone able to help? She's very much missed. Love as always Anita xx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:20:13 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: I love Travelogue! Hello Oddmund. I found your post to be quite inspiring. I haven't entered the discussion on Travelogue because I have nothing controversial to add. I was initially a bit disappointed with the album but bought it because I loved what she did on BSN. I feel that she expanded on an idea or way of thinking about her music with Travelogue. I really don't dislike anything that Joni records. If the song is not my "cup of tea", I still find it fascinating to see where she is going with it. Joni's catalogue is a journey for me. I'm not on the same journey but I just love having the privilege of seeing someone else's journey. I love Travelogue too. Not because it is a brilliant album but because it is part of this woman's journey. All music is the result of a person's creativity and as Joni has said, it's like a painting - it's out there and it is what it is. I will always treasure my copy of Travelogue as I treasure all of the recordings I have of her. Your translation of Hejira sounds intriguing. I would love to hear it sung in Nynorsk. I'm not sure which Norwegian language I've heard but it was beautiful. My ancestors were Danish but Norwegian is a much nicer language. Has anyone recorded it yet? Frode Grytten is absolutely right. It's an interesting way for you to discover Joni. That version of The Magdelene Laundries with The Chieftens is beautiful. I didn't know about it until I joined this group. I also love what has become of Joni's voice. I think I have told the story here before of how I discovered Joni's music. It was by way of the Australian release, The World of Joni Mitchell - a compilation of her early songs. I was 16 and a free spirit at the time. I had a Walkman and a backpack and I hitchhiked from town to town, listening to that album over and over (as well as artists like America, Janis Ian and Jane Oliver). By age 18, I continued my travels through Canada and the US, still with Joni with me. I was excited to find a copy of STAS in Vancouver and carried that record in my backpack around North America until I came back to Australia. It wasn't available on vinyl here at the time. It's now available on CD. Mark in Sydney NP Absolute (The Bigar Edit) - Scritti Politti ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:41:10 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Barangrill Very nice analysis, Paul. I got more than I bargained for when I posed my question about the title. You all have made me think even harder about this song. I always imagined the title to mean what it sounded like way back when I was hitchhiking and could relate to it somehow. Always looking for the next truck stop. The one thing I would never have thought any further about was the oil company references. That is very interesting. Thanks for carrying this thread. Mark in Sydney. Happy Labour Day Weekend to all the Aussies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:20:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: I love Travelogue! Hey Rosie, it looks like we've found our "wandering Australian" that charmed and enthralled Joni all those years ago! Mark, it's not nice to keep such secrets from us, you know. Bob NP: Modest Mouse, "The World At Large" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:31:47 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: I love Travelogue! Nice try, Bob. Joni inspired me greatly during my travels but, I seriously doubt that I ever inspired her. Mark in Sydney On 29/09/2006, at 9:20 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Canada and > the US, still with Joni with me.> > > Hey Rosie, it looks like we've found our > "wandering Australian" that charmed and > enthralled Joni all those years ago! > > Mark, it's not nice to keep such secrets from us, > you know. > > Bob > > NP: Modest Mouse, "The World At Large" > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:47:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Barangrill strange how so many of you all relate this song as being a mid-continent, or road song. Or a truckstop to truckstop song. Usually I'm more or less on the same page with the listers as far as Joni-songs. With this one, my impression is completely of being at land's end. Mostly west coast. I don't get the feeling of this one being a traveling album like Hejira or DJRD. I feel like she's socked in (not on tour or recording) and going different places on the west coast. And so the movement on Barangrill is limited in scope. wierd huh? so my brain created this little world of FTR. I used to listen to it alot while walking when I was first discovering this album. And I'm wanting to cling to my vision of it, because it felt right. Now I'm *almost* thinking maybe I should listen to this with an ear to throwing off the green and take on the dusty brown of truckstops and highways (and a new person that the song is about). hmmmm.... gotta decide whether to dig for you all's vision, or let it lie with my own murky yet attractive (to me) one. Its been good reading. happy Friday, Em - --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Very nice analysis, Paul. I got more than I bargained for when I > posed > my question about the title. You all have made me think even harder > about this song. I always imagined the title to mean what it sounded > like way back when I was hitchhiking and could relate to it somehow. > Always looking for the next truck stop. > > The one thing I would never have thought any further about was the > oil > company references. That is very interesting. > > Thanks for carrying this thread. > > Mark in Sydney. > > Happy Labour Day Weekend to all the Aussies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:58:07 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Barangrill Em, it's only natural to have your own vision of Joni's songs. They are not only based on her lyrics but of your own personal experiences and environment. The truck stops in my head were mainly on red dirt roads in the Queensland outback. Mark in Sydney On 29/09/2006, at 9:47 PM, Em wrote: > strange how so many of you all relate this song as being a > mid-continent, or road song. Or a truckstop to truckstop song. > Usually I'm more or less on the same page with the listers as far as > Joni-songs. With this one, my impression is completely of being at > land's end. Mostly west coast. I don't get the feeling of this one > being a traveling album like Hejira or DJRD. > I feel like she's socked in (not on tour or recording) and going > different places on the west coast. > And so the movement on Barangrill is limited in scope. > wierd huh? so my brain created this little world of FTR. > I used to listen to it alot while walking when I was first discovering > this album. > And I'm wanting to cling to my vision of it, because it felt right. > Now I'm *almost* thinking maybe I should listen to this with an ear to > throwing off the green and take on the dusty brown of truckstops and > highways (and a new person that the song is about). > hmmmm.... > gotta decide whether to dig for you all's vision, or let it lie with my > own murky yet attractive (to me) one. > Its been good reading. > happy Friday, > Em > > --- Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Very nice analysis, Paul. I got more than I bargained for when I >> posed >> my question about the title. You all have made me think even harder >> about this song. I always imagined the title to mean what it sounded >> like way back when I was hitchhiking and could relate to it somehow. >> Always looking for the next truck stop. >> >> The one thing I would never have thought any further about was the >> oil >> company references. That is very interesting. >> >> Thanks for carrying this thread. >> >> Mark in Sydney. >> >> Happy Labour Day Weekend to all the Aussies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:20:54 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: Nerina Pallot and Joni I have tried to check what has already been written about Nerina Pallot here before, but I must admit blushingly that I did not manage to get it to work, in spite of everybody writing how wonderful the search facility is. So I'm sure the fault is all mine, and hopefully someone will give me some gentle directions to put it right. So at the risk of repeating some earlier information, I think I have also definitely some new stuff, Joni related. In Monday's publication of Metro, the free paper in London, it was Nerina Pallot's turn to talk about her 6 favourite songs on her i-pod. And alongside numbers by David Bowie and Johnny Cash, she listed Joni's Edith And The Kingpin. She says: "I like this because of that line 'the band sounds like typewriters' - which is one of the best lyrics ever. I maintain that if Joni Mitchell had been born a man she would have been bigger than Bob Dylan. I absolutely believe that - she Sh*ts on him lyrically. She's a better musician, a better singer... everything about her is better. And I love Bob Dylan. But if I have to go to the grave over one of them it would be Joni Mitchell." I noticed the name of Nerina Pallot a few months ago, when my eldest son Thomas (21 yesterday!), who, if I can proudly say so, has a very good ear for music and plays some mean guitar and piano himself, was sitting at the computer and said to me: "Mum, listen to this song here. Don't you think that sounds just like a Joni Mitchell song?" I was not very keen to hear yet another singer being compared to Joni. I'd rather that they just do their own thing, and do it well. But anyway, mum listened. And was amazed. Because this song, Sophia, did not just remind me of Joni's music, it was first of all a really nice song, and secondly I would have sworn that it was a Joni composition! I did not hear all the other songs on the CD, I know some are much more commercial such as "Everybody's Gone To War" which made it into the charts in the UK. I'm glad this singer is not just building a career on making songs that could have been written by Joni Mitchell, but I have admiration for her musical skills. I also remember reading an interview with her before, and she sounded refreshingly "real" and unmanufactured. Just now I looked her up on the AllMusic site, and it says she was born in 1975 in London. Apparently she produced her first CD in 2001, it was pulled from the shops by the record label because they wanted to reissue it together with a new single, but then (and I quote): "an appearance on the British children's television program Live and Kicking proved disastrous when fellow guest Faye Tozer of pop group Steps accidentally pushed Pallot off the show's couch; the mishap aired live and made Pallot the butt of much joking, and Polydor terminated her contract just a few weeks later, never returning Dear Frustrated Superstar to retail. ... Pallot spent the next four years out of sight, finally resurfacing in the spring of 2005 with Fires , issued on her own Idaho label. The LP proved a critical and commercial favorite and was reissued in updated form a year later on the Warner subsidiary 14th Floor Records," Well, I'm glad for the girl! Now if anybody could tell me how to find what has been written about her before, I'd be very grateful! Lieve in London. PS My apologies to everybody who's had a birthday but no birthday greetings from me! ______________________________________________________________ This message may contain privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please keep it confidential and return it to the sender. Although we have taken steps to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, the EBRD accepts no liability for any loss or damage caused by computer viruses and would advise you to carry out your own virus checks. The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:30:14 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, Indian film, then Joseph on the radio Dear Joseph and everyjonibody: Have you seen this film? Is it worth the gift of my extra time? The description of the hero kind of makes me think of Joni. (Ha!....what *doesn't* make me think of Joni?) "Oct 4, Pyaasa, 1957, B/W, 2 hours,30 min. Directed by: Guru Dutt, music S.D. Burman Cast: Guru Dutt, Waheeda Tehman, Mala Sinha, Johnny Walker Described as a masterpiece of world cinema. About a "hero thirsting for love and for a world where poetry and creativity are valued over material success." Vijay (Guru Dutt) becomes a martyr for his art in a material word. Outstanding songs and cinematography." Also, I've been wanting to wish you bon chance et bonne courage with your radio show, Joseph. You turn us on, you're a radio! One of our German TAs just got a two hour show on WHUS where she plays "Heimat Melodies". The other day she was telling me all about it, and she said that she has to be really careful that the lyrics don't contain "bad words." So I just had to tell her that I (we) know an art teacher who has played Joni in her classroom and how one day the the "f word" came out, startling both the teacher and her students. Chuckle, chuckle. Love, Patti P., a little bit corny, a wildflower waving for you ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:14:29 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: "The Songs of Joni Mitchell" in concert: A PLUG Dear listers, I'm enjoying the recent threads on Barangrill (which I love) and the orchestral albums (which I also love). Remember in Woman of Heart and Mind (DVD) where it talks about Joni's love of the crooner/swing era (Bing Crosby in particular)? We should remember that Joni's early years were in the pre-rock era when singing in front of a crack big band or full orchestra was about the ultimate experience for a singer. I find it fitting that Joni would round out her career by indulging that opportunity. It wouldn't have worked at all if she were still the shrill soprano; as an older artist whose voice had leathered it is a perfect match. Vince Mendoza is probably the pre- eminent orchestrator writing in the U.S today (his gorgeous work on Yellowjackets' "Greenhouse", Bjork's "Vespertine" and his own album "Epiphany") and as for Wayne Shorter, Joni has used him more or less continuously on every outing since DJRD so clearly she loves what he brings to the mix. BSN is the only Joni album (to my knowledge) released in 5.1 which is an extra lavish experience. Why long for the small band Joni when she had already done that for decades? Let the artist follow her muse. I for one was glad to see the end of the Larry Klein pop influence that sounds so dated now. But the real reason for this post is to PLUG our Joni birthday tribute show coming up in San Diego Nov 4th three days before Our Lady turns 63.... A smoking 6-piece band (comprising former Tom Scott and Frank Zappa band members) playing 2 1/2 hours of Joni music in a chronology through each period from the folk years, through the rock years, the jazz years and yes Bob, the eighties, on up to Turbulent Indigo, in a quiet "music only" listening space with good acoustics against a backdrop of slides of Joni's art (many thanks to Jamie Zoob for the scans). We have worked for the whole of 2006 preparing this show, refining the set, polishing arrangements, collecting guitars and played it to sold out rooms 7 or 8 times. Basically, this is a Joni night to remember!! If any of you can see your way to San Diego on Sat Nov 4th I can guarantee you a great night. Hear the demo here: http://robinadler.com/music.html Tickets ($15 via PayPal) available at http://robinadler.com/ products.html Press release with specifics: http://www.yousendit.com/download/ 8hcPhd9nYZc%3D Here is a testimonial received by email after the April 1st show: Robin's vocals were dead on. I thought Joni was actually in the room! Dave's guitar playing was superb and Barnaby's keyboard solos were over the top! I'd attend another gathering just to hear Both Sides Now and Woodstock again. Please forgive the self-promotion but if we can't plug to you guys, who? love Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:24:12 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? At 07:13 PM 9/28/2006, Norma Jean Garza wrote: >It had occurred to me a few times that Joni did mean "sheep." But, I still >didn't >get it. Are the sheep the wayward lambs who fell into the ocean... My kids have always referred to whitecaps as "sheep." Gazing across the ocean here in the Pacific Northwest you often see hundreds of white-capped waves, especially when the wind kicks up; the scene is like a blue field full of white sheep. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Barangrill - --- Em wrote: > strange how so many of you all relate this song as > being a > mid-continent, or road song. Or a truckstop to > truckstop song. > Usually I'm more or less on the same page with the > listers as far as > Joni-songs. With this one, my impression is > completely of being at > land's end. Mostly west coast. I don't get the > feeling of this one > being a traveling album like Hejira or DJRD. > I feel like she's socked in (not on tour or > recording) and going > different places on the west coast. > And so the movement on Barangrill is limited in > scope. > wierd huh? so my brain created this little world of > FTR. Not weird. Just another take on it. We all read it from our own perceptions and backgrounds. That's what makes it work, and that's what makes so many of Joni's songs work. A lot of people that don't like Joni's work, and even some who do, sometimes say that her stuff is too personal and too particular, or they don't like that whiny confessional stuff. And yet, so many of us can filter that stuff through out own experiences, and make it ours. Your perception is just as valid as anyone else's. That is pretty cool. Barangrill is a state of mind. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:28:28 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? It's the easiest way to wash the sheep on the small greek islands... just by letting 'em dunk in the water for a while... completely dangerous for the sheep but it makes sense... I'm sure they'd swim back to the beach asap! Jamie Zoob On 29/09/06, Scott Price wrote: > At 07:13 PM 9/28/2006, Norma Jean Garza wrote: > >It had occurred to me a few times that Joni did mean "sheep." But, I still > >didn't > >get it. Are the sheep the wayward lambs who fell into the ocean... > > > My kids have always referred to whitecaps as "sheep." Gazing across the > ocean here in the Pacific Northwest you often see hundreds of white-capped > waves, especially when the wind kicks up; the scene is like a blue field > full of white sheep. > > Scott > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:35:07 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: chuck eisenhardt Subject: Dog Eat Dog Tab Please forgive this appeal for a Dog Eat Dog Tax Free tab, especially if I've done this before (I think I only sent to the Northeastlist....I only know I had no response....... I am looking for a usable-for-keyboard tab (not the Marian Russell tab) for Tax Free. There's a plan afoot for a performance by Cassie w/ Muller as Steiger, and the prospect has me a-twitter. I have been looking repeatedly on the web for a copy of the Warner's Publications, Inc. album folio for DED. It's a rare bird, apparently. If you ou have it, can you possibly xerox and fax me a copy of the Tax Free arrangement (contact me for a FAX number). I really just need the chord symbols. Thanks for any help... ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Barangrill - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > Barangrill is a state of mind. YES!!!!!!!!!! and sometimes hard to come by... you can look all day and all night and all season long, you can ride around in the rented limo and still not find it. Em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:08:31 GMT From: "Ruth Davis" Subject: Holy Sheet, Batman! Okay, another Carey question. On the "Miles of Aisles" album, when Joni is singing "Carey," live, she says something I've never been able to decipher ever since 1973. The wind is in from Africa. The sea is full of _______. It sounds like she says "sheet." Yet, that meaning has never made much sense to me. Now, if she sang, "The sea is full of shit," I could get it, but Joni sings the word with the long e vowel sound. So, which is it, anyone? Norma Jean ***************************************************************************** *********************** I believe it is a reference to the sails of sailboats. The sea is full of sheet, because a lot of sailboats are unfurling their sails. There is an expression "two sheets in the wind" that derives from that idea. Like the sailboats, Joni feels the African wind coming in and yearns to set sail, but she wants one more time around at the cafe with Cary. Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:54:55 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Holy Sheet, Batman! From: "Ruth Davis" <<< The wind is in from Africa. The sea is full of _______. It sounds like she says "sheet." Yet, that meaning has never made much sense to me. Now, if she sang, "The sea is full of shit," I could get it, but Joni sings the word with the long e vowel sound. So, which is it, anyone? >>> I think she says "The sea is full of sheep" as in followers. Everyone doing what everyone else is doing, wearing the same clothes partying in the same places etc. Just my take on it. Cassy NP: Get On Top of me Woman - Tim Buckley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:43:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Barangrill Hello Nuriel! And Marianne and all of my Joni-Siblings! How nice of you to think of me Nuri! I have been here all along - but my life has changed in sooo many ways the past year ... One year ago I moved from my beautiful vibrant Chicago to the east coast. I moved to Connecticut to be with my love. So my work hours are different. Access to a computer, being in a home now with teens is not as available as I would like it to be. But I read from work and home as I am able - but spend so much less time writing - which I do miss. I will try to be more present and am planning to be a Jonifest in March. After reading all the responses to Barangrill - I have to say I can see most of the others points of view - and they all sound reasonable and some in fact are beautiful - and lovely ... I don't disagree in the least. I can only express what hits me from the get go - but I can easily see the other perspectives and they make just as much sense to me. As with any great write - and Joni is one of the very best - the images and place they take you is amazing. After being here in this community for 6 or so years now - I can tell all of you and know you will understand - that possibly no one has had an impact on my soul as much as Joni. No artist has opened me up to such evaluation - creativity - and conscience. Without ever meeting her face to face - she has made a difference & been a constant companion. Now that we have had the discussion on Barangrill again ;-) ... isn't it time to bring up those nachos or notches again - LOL! Peace, Susan P.S. Now where or where has my Smurfy Guy gone?! Nuriel Tobias wrote: Susan Guzzi wrote: "Well out of lurkdom to discuss a one of my fave Joni albums - and songs" Hey Susan, It's so great you're back - was thinking about you a couple of days ago, believe it or not. I wanted to find something in the archives and, you know how it goes, i found myself reading some brilliant threads from 1820 - when we - and you too - used to post every 5 minutes or so:) and why lurkdom, why? Don't try hidin' 'cause it isn't any use:)... Yes, amazing song from the bright side of the Joni and one of my fave too. "....Okay Barangrill IS life... is travel ... is one of the refuges of the road . Being on the road, as soon as you get to the Barangrill - there's only one thing on your mind - where's the next Barangrill? It's the life of a trucker - a traveler in some vehicle - a wanderer - it's everywhere when you're there and nowhere when you're not. The people in each place are such characters! It's a state of mind, it's surrealistic - like a pillow for comfort. ;-) Nuri, I believe this person has been to many Barangrils - in a way for those on the road - it is their home.- and it is their fix." As i see it, this person is new to the "Barngrill secene". The way Joni treats the characters in the lyrics make it seem this person is unfamilar with their cool world, like an upper-class child going to a working-class school. It's like this person's "heard" that there's an "amazing thing" called Barngrill where commom folks have great time, and must find it. I even think that this person may as well BE in a Barngrill, but since it's a new world for him/her, he/she has no idea that in fact he/she IS already there, so keeps on asking "where is it, WHERE is it?":) Nuri Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. - --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:11:38 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: re: Barangrill I always thought Barangrill was the name of a real joint that some club/bar/restaurant owner gave name to. Joni's trying to get there to find some sweet inspiration, but finds more inspiration on the way there. In Milwaukee, we used to have a rock club called "T. A. Vern's." Mia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:24:35 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? >From: Michael Flaherty >To: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" , JMDL >CC: icnh@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Why does Joni say "5" on "Carey"? >Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:26:48 -0700 (PDT) > > "anon anon" asked, > >Does anoyne have any ideas about why Joni said the number "5" at the >beginning of "Carey"?> > >OK, I'm not completely insane: it DOES say "at the beginning of"! > > Michael F. > > I know, what I should have said, to be more accurate, is: "near the beginning of the song"... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:54:00 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #275 Hi, Just a brief de-lurk to say how much I really enjoy my daily dose of Joni related E-mails !! Please keep them coming !! Cheers, Paul Headon (in Wales) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:23:09 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: The sea is full of sheep ("Carey" in the "Miles Of Aisles" releases) For me, the "key" to what she sings on "Miles Of Aisles" isn't on "Miles Of Aisles"; it's on the "Blue" CD. On the "Blue" CD, Joni said, >>>>>The wind is in from Africa>>>>> >>>>>Last night I couldn't sleep>>>>> The meaning of the second line is "insomnia". When people listen to the sound of surf, many get sleepy. When others can't sleep, they imagine they are counting sheep. So, because she's Joni Mitchell, she mixed the audible sensation of listening to surf with the image of counting sheep. She changed >>>>> I couldn't sleep >>>>> to > the sea is full of sheep > No sheep were injured in the making of this story- they are imaginary sheep. Jim L. np: Mavis Staples singing 13 gospel songs, backed only by Lucky Peterson on a Hammond B3. >> Rose hears >> I believe she is saying sheep Norma Jean hears: >>>The wind is in from Africa. >>>The sea is full of _______. >>>It sounds like she says "sheet." >>>Yet, that meaning has never made much sense to me. >>>Now, if she sang, "The sea is full of shit," I could >>>get it, but Joni sings the word with the long e vowel >>>sound. So, which is it, anyone? Nuri hears >>>>And on Talk To Me, I STILL hear Joni singing "I'll >>>>shit on a secret where honor is at stake", though it >>>>must be the teeth issue which sometimes makes S >>>>sonds like SH. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:54:30 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Barangrill Hell, yes!. I adopt your theory that she started with: Sun Cities Service Humble Pure and distilled them (ha!) into "some say it's in service They say "humble makes pure" You're hoping it's near Folly 'Cause you're headed that way for sure " "Cities" became "say it's". Amazing that it's so close aurally but worlds away in meaning. I really enjoyed these bits as well, >She's had an almost comical religious experience -- the Church Of The Waitress. By the last stanza she's come to view the whole experience of Barangrill as what it is -- a snapshot of everyday life. She has received some sort of psychic sustenance and by the time she leaves she's not even asking about Barangrill anymore. This song works on so many levels at once. What at first listen seemed to be the least complex song on the album happens to be quite complex. > Great analysis, Paul. Jim L. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #279 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)