From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #273 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, September 24 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 273 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Hell about Joni's art [Lucy Hone ] Demos.doc ["mike pritchard" ] Hell about Joni's art ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:09:10 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Hell about Joni's art I think I have to remain neutral about Joni's art.... its all a bit to Van Gogh for me.. I wonder sometimes if Joni has "Synesthesia" It would mean she sees words as colours and hears sounds as colours and would write words that produce colours for her .....and she uses colour in a number of her songs does she not.... Turbulent Indigo, Blue, Little Green, Big Yellow Taxi, Cold Blue Steel, Blue Motel Room, So blue and yellow make green............hmmmmmmmmmmmm She sings of being a lonely painter, living in a box of paints, but she is a scribe also so maybe words are colours and we are seeing her songs as paintings I do get sensations of colour from her songs.. Turbulent Indigo is a mixture of browns and yellows and deep reds. Hejira is very much a sliver and black creation with shots of green, Both sides Now is sort of warm oranges with clear blue... Magdalene Laundries is shades of green and brown Some songs produce nothing at all.... Anyway it was just a thought.... Lucy in a bright blue England with fab Autumn sun playing on the walls of the house nextdoor. . mags h wrote: > Hell in New Zealand introduced a wonderful subject which I'm > jumping 'en bard' with: > > << let me suggest aJoni-related subject for discussion: Joni isn't > writing > music any more, but she is more involved in her painting. > So what is your favourite Joni art work? I have two I > particularly like: the cover art for Turbulent Indigo (Joni > as Vincent Van Gogh) and "40 below", an painting of sunrise > (or sunset?) over a snow-laden road, presumably from the > prairies in Canada. > > Who's next?>> > a note from another girl on the canadian prairie ;-) > > Me two Hell... Your two choices are spot on.. I love them. The sunrise > painting demonstrates what I mean by 'prairie light'. Breath taking, > quiet light. I've never felt anything quite like it. Good medicine that. > > In addition, I love the art work on a certain Crosby Still and Nash > album. ;-) > > On the main page of Joni Mitchell dot com, there are links to some > gorgeous most photos OF her. Given that photography is another medium > that Joni plays with, I am interested in seeing photos that Joni has > created, herself. In one of the videos, there are images of Joni > taking photos of her grand babies in a backyard in Toronto, Ontario. > > what news from the Mendel Gallery concerning Joni? Anyone ? > > and speaking of fest-ivities....a reminder that registration for > Jonifest 2007 is well under way...don't delay, sign up soon! Imagine > sitting in on a song circle, or on that creeky old rocking chair out > on the porch, when suddenly, the sound of Joni Mitchell rises up. You > feel, oh yes you feel your heart gush because you realise, there IS no > need to explain. Stand shoulder to shoulder, face to face with your > writerly friends from around the world. Isn't that what brought us > 'here' in the first place? > > Mags > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 15:58:45 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Demos.doc Demos: I love demos. Demos, for non-musicians like myself, show us the fascinating process of changing the rough diamond into the finely finished gem that the public gets to hear, as well as songs which finally never reach the general public. I have demos (or shall we call them outtakes?) by joni (the hissing demos), Springsteen (the colt's neck sessions), the Jam (That's Entertainment') and Dylan (Blood on the Tracks) and all are fascinating, and great to listen to. Yesterday (as part of an ongoing project of updating and expanding my collection of Elvis Costello songs) I bought the 'vastly expanded' 2 CD version of King of America. It is wonderful (this I knew already) but he gives us here 21 extra tracks which may not have made the cut on the original but are not filler in any way. There are also live versions and tryouts of whatever he was playing at that moment. Costello, I think, has released these expanded versions of many of his albums and I applaud the gesture. As funds allow I will pick them all up. I already have 'Blood and Chocolate' and will look out for the others in the future. What I meant at the beginning is that the demo version of the song sometimes sounds ho hum but there is something there, which the musician hasn't yet found. Dylan's 'Chronicles Volume I' is fascinating on Alain Toussaint's production work on 'Oh Mercy' (I think) and the painful birth of the album. Listening to the change in Costello's 'Deportee' from the demo to the final reason is illuminating, as are Springsteen's early versions of the songs on 'Nebraska' and 'Born in the USA'. What I do not like is the re-issue of jazz classics with one extra CD which includes, say, 6 alternate takes of 'Giant Steps'. There is a good reason why the published version of Giant Steps was chosen for release, and I guess quality is one of them. But hearing the prototypes of songs which later become great songs never ceases to amaze me. Well done Elvis. There must be many more joni demos out there somewhere, I suppose. Where are they? mike in bcn np - that's how you got killed before - Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:52:15 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Hell about Joni's art Hell wrote: << let me suggest aJoni-related subject for discussion: Joni isn't writing music any more, but she is more involved in her painting. So what is your favourite Joni art work? I have two I particularly like: the cover art for Turbulent Indigo (Joni as Vincent Van Gogh) and "40 below", an painting of sunrise (or sunset?) over a snow-laden road, presumably from the prairies in Canada. Thank you for this, Hell. I just spent an hour in the Joni Mitchell Museum of Art and I'm blown away anew by the talent of this lady! And thank *you*, Les, for putting all this together. Priceless! "40 below" is beautiful. I can feel the cold of the snow, and want to follow the refuge of that road to wherever it leads. So many of these are new to me. I do have the JM screensaver on my computer in the workplace, though, and have seen some of them. Sometimes visitors to my office will comment on what pops up, and people are always very impressed. (How could they not be?) And if they don't know Joni, it usually sets me off into a little Joni 101 independent study course for the visitor. I love all of her self-portraits. The one of her in the canoe (#168) is new to me, though, and took my breath away. I love her simple line drawings....how can you capture someone in just a few lines? (Take that from someone who always used to choose playing Trivial Pursuit over Pictionary because I can't draw for merde!) Her face on the cover of LOTC...wow! And the CSNY "So Far" album cover...another wow! And the Judy Collins portrait on FTR. Exquisite. And "Middle Point" (I think that's the name....I scribbled the name down and it's near illegible...#162) is so beautiful, and I like the words (I love words!) on each side: idol, idle, ideal, idyll. It kind of gives you permission to make whatever you want of it (comme d'habitude). I also really like "Rising Sun" (#33) which for me evokes Monet's "Impression Soleil Levant". Voila: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.artinvest2000.com/monet_soleil-levant.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.artinvest2000.com/monet_impressione-big.htm&h=653&w=850&sz=189&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=zmQmVL9W0ruG3M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=145&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmonet%2527s%2Bsoleil%2Blevant%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG Good fortune allowed that I was able to see that, and many others, at the "Centenaire de l'Impressionisme" when I was a free man in Paris in 1974. I kept thinking of Joni the whole time (what else is new? LOL) at that exhibit, remembering the paper I did on "The Impressionism of Joni Mitchell" back in high school. That paper was based on her music, though, since I did not know much of her visual art at the time, except for the covers of STAS, Clouds, and LOTC. Man, I wish I had that paper. I wonder how bad or how good it was! I love her oils, too, and the rich vibrant colors. Van Gogh like, for sure. And yes, Laura, the Travelogue landscapes and all are exquisite. "After the Bombing of Dresden" makes me think of Georges de la Tour (I think that's his name) with the use of light. Do you think these will all ever be assembled into one beautiful art book? And how can one human being have so much talent in so many areas? Je m'abaisse, encore une fois, devant la grandeur de notre Joan. Love, Patti P., who welcomes this wonderful diversion as it interrupted the sorrow of writing out more "thank you for your sympathy" cards (always running behind the times, as usual) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #273 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)