From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #240 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, August 23 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 240 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Mitchell (was Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC)) ["Jamie's Box of Paint] Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers [Andeemac2006 ] Re: where and how do you listen?? [Em ] Re: Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers [Em ] Re: Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers ["Cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:36:12 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Mitchell (was Gravelly Voices Tour? (now with JC)) Yes, that's probably the most plausible theory! After the marriage she was known officially as Joan Mitchell, (maybe Joni) but it wasn't til after the ceremony (according to WOHAM) that Chuck intimated strongly that he didn't want to raise another man's child. So I guess when she put Kelly Dale up for adoption she was Joni Mitchell so in order for the young Kilauren to look for her birth mother, surely Joni would've thought 'I have to keep this name as I registered the adoption under it. Too bad for Chuck!' So you sign all the papers... in the family name You're sad and you're sorry but you're not ashamed Makes you wonder... what family.... the Anderson's or the Mitchell's? I would love to be able to know, wouldn't you? Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 22/08/06, Lori Fye wrote: > I asked, about Joni retaining the last name Mitchell after divorcing Chuck: > > The only thing I can think of -- other than maybe Joni just liked the sound > of "Joni Mitchell" better than "Joni Anderson" -- is that Chuck married Joni > when she still had Kelly Dale (later to be known as Kilauren), and perhaps > she wanted to keep Mitchell as some sort of link to her child. (Although I > don't know if Kilauren was ever known as Kelly Mitchell -- anyone else > know?) > > Lori > Santa Rosa, CA > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 and on myspace at http://www.myspace.com/jamiezoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:03:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Andeemac2006 Subject: Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers Fred Hubers wrote:That India Aries was brilliant and presumably he thinks she is a worthy of comparison with Bruce Springsteen, Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon, Roberta Flack, Aretha Franklin, or Whitney Houston and on and on indeed. Im sorry good she is, you see India Aires is good for 2006 but not so amazingly brilliant to warrant her being singled out above all other singers in her Genre. I can switch the Radio on in the car or at home and hear singers singing as good as her, and her songs if she does write them, will not be rememberd in 20 years time Like Paul Simon or Steve Wonder.You see this is my point some people are reduced to saying she is wonderfull, leaving out the For 2006!Aretha Franklin she aint. And yes this is what I hope for is an artist of MEGA star quality coming through, who can write Memorable songs of true Melody and have a Voice you can lose your self in when you listen to her or him, I expect to much ??? well People just dont seem to get there heads round the fact that in the 70's especially, the amount of star quality artists breaking through into popularity was staggering, to the point where (what would be termed now) New Classic Albums were being released every month, one month after another, like these. :--- 1. Stevie Wonder 2. Led Zeppelin 3. Elton John 4. Pink Floyd 5. Rolling Stones 6. The Eagles 7. Marvin Gaye 8. Queen 9. James Brown 10. The Who 11. Black Sabbath 12. Aretha Franklin 13. David Bowie 14. Paul McCartney/Wings 15. Parliment/Funkadelic 16. The Isley Brothers 17. Fleetwood Mac 18. John Lennon 19. Bee Gees 20. Chicago 21. Bob Marley 22. Jackson Five 23. Earth, Wind & Fire 24. Al Green 25. Bruce Springsteen 26. KISS 27. The Clash 28. Curtis Mayfield 29. Lynyrd Skynyrd 30. Eric Clapton/Derek & the Dominos 31. Alice Cooper 32. Gladys Knight & The Pips 33. Allman Brothers Band 34. Aerosmith 35. Neil Young 36. Bob Dylan 37. Rod Stewart 38. The O'Jays 39. The Ramones 40. Rush 41. Bob Seger 42. Steve Miller Band 43. Grateful Dead 44. The Beach Boys 45. George Harrison 46. Sly and the Family Stone 47. Elvis Presley 48. Deep Purple 49. Crosby, Stills, Nash, & Young 50. Joni Mitchell 51. Peter Frampton 52. Bachman Turner Overdrive 53. Creedence Clearwater Revival 54. Three Dog Night 55. War 56. Temptations 57. Commodores 58. AC/DC 59. The Spinners 60. Billy Joel 61. Kool & The Gang 62. ZZ Top 63. Doobie Brothers 64. Emerson, Lake & Palmer 65. Jackson Browne 66. The Staple Singers 67. Yes 68. Boston 69. Barry White 70. Kinks 71. Jethro Tull 72. Santana 73. The Guess Who 74. Steely Dan 75. Sex Pistols 76. Moody Blues 77. Electric Light Orchestra 78. Bad Company 79. Grand Funk Railroad 80. Journey 81. Foreigner 82. James Taylor 83. The Chi-Lites 84. Rufus, featuring Chaka Khan 85. Kansas 86. Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes 87. Heart 88. Donna Summer 89. Linda Ronstadt 90. Paul Simon 91. The Doors 92. Iggy Pop 93. Styx 94. Van Morrison 95. Patti Smith 96. Lou Reed 97. Van Halen 98. Foghat 99. Ohio Players 100. TrafficDo you see what I mean ???? Is it expecting to much to have 10% of the quality of these artists breaking through and releasing Classic new CD's, well is it at the moment seemingly it is. And there is another 100 from where these came from http://www. digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_artists70s.htmlThe last wonderfull new CD i bought was Aerial from Kate Bush, sublime song writing. No Jazz, Soul, or R&B accents drowning the songs, just Kate Bushes supreme talent at writing wonderfull songs with great Melodys. as I said sorry to rant but the Best Slide Guitairists thread, backed up my Opinion. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:03:22 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: where and how do you listen?? From: "Em" <<< Here's what I'm wondering: do you sit down SPECIFICALLY to listen? Like in a big stuffed chair or whatever? what do you focus your eyes on? are you looking at stuff, or do you close your eyes so as to concentrate better? What kind of thing do you sit on? Are you listening to a regular "stereo"..components and 2 speakers? or a boom box? or an ipod type thing? In that flick "All We are Saying", I forget who said it - someone said that iPods are kind of the flourescent light of music listening. Cheap, crummy I guess he is saying. Not sure I agree, but whatever... >>> I think he meant something completely different, Em. Looking at something in daylight, incandescent bulb light and fluorescent light gives one a completely different perspective on an object which hasn't moved at all, fluorescent being the most recent of the three light-types. iPods are the latest, greatest thing to hit music technology and have revolutionized how people listen to their music. It's the same music but a whole new way of listening. If you'd asked me three years ago how I listen to music my answer would have been completely different than it is today. If you'd asked me 10 years ago... again it would have been completely different. I listen to different music in different ways, I guess. Listening to Joni is something I reserve (mostly) for being alone. I like to sing along with Joni, I think most of us in this group like to do that. Picture this: I have the house to myself, I put a Joni CD in the player and stand directly in front of my entertainment unit, one speaker on each side of me. I start the CD and imagine I'm up on stage with the best musicians of the day playing back up, sometimes I close my eyes, sometimes I don't but it's easier to imagine with them closed. I move, I dance, I sing my heart out - not anything like I'd do if anyone were witness to my little "performance". I completely lose myself in the music. I do this when I'm alone in the car too (eyes open of course), I'm sure people driving along side me enjoy the spectacle. I listen to classical music and the occasional opera on Sunday mornings with my coffee and newspaper. nothing to sing along with because I don't understand most of the foreign languages anyway. Once in a while I'll sit and close my eyes for a beautiful aria. Sundays I usually need a jump start and I find Bach's violin Concertos in D minor wakes me right up and puts me in a really good mood to tackle the rest of the week. When I feel like the world is pressing in on me, bills are piling up, my son is being defiant and argumentative I handle it in two different ways... first I put on something really angry like the Sex Pistols and allow myself to vent to the wall as I move my body to release my anger, dancing, pumping my fist in the air, pretending I'm a teenager again myself letting the music speak for me as I wish I were in a mosh-pit. The second way I handle that is to lock myself in my bedroom and listen to moody music, Billy Holiday or perhaps Susan Tedeschi's song Just Won't Burn, over and over again. I like to play Joni's "Blue" or Bonnie Raitt's "My First Night Alone Without You" or Roy Buchanan's "Sweet Dreams - The anthology". It all seems to be directly related to how blue I feel or how upset I am and over what. Most of the time, now, when I'm moving around the house doing my chores or just hanging out on the deck in the nice weather, I put my iPod on shuffle and knowing that there's nothing on there that I don't like I let the technology take over and dictate my listening order. The combinations never cease to amaze me but it's always exciting and fresh because I never know what's coming next but it's always something I really like. As I said, the iPod has revolutionized my listening habits. I have a little gizmo called an iTrip too that allows me to let the iPod play into any radio handy. I set it for a station that's empty and it transmits to the receiver and comes out of the speakers for the receiver. It's awesome, I can do it in the car too. I have certain music for bedroom activities too... let's not go into what I do along with the music there, let's just say I like to listen to Luther Vandross, Deep Forest, Lenny Kravitz, Marvin Gaye and a deluge of other music with a good groove. I like to listen to Native American music there too, Professor Trance and the Energizers "Shaman's Breath" is awesome bedroom music as is Beck's "Guero". I guess if one is being melancholy about how one's listening habits have changed from pure enjoyment to having to multi-task and juggle listening with other activities it can be a bit daunting sometimes but honestly, I like to knit and I'll sit and knit to keep my hands busy while I'm listening and singing along, or humming along. When I have time, I find I enjoy exploring on Amazon.com to find new music I enjoy too. I look up CDs I own and love there and look to see what people who bought that CD are also buying, then I go listen to the snippets to see if it's something I enjoy too. I read the post from Andeemac2006 and thought to myself "where has this person been listening?" There's a lot of really good new music around if one opens up one's mind and ears. For me, the bottom line is there is no definitive way to describe how I listen to music. Gone are the days of being young enough to just enjoy doing nothing while I learn the lyrics to my favorite songs... lying on the floor on my belly poring over the album cover lyrics... well once in a while I still do that. Warmly, Cassy NP: Missing - Beck (from Guero... a great song) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: where and how do you listen?? ooooooooooooh, Cassy, thank you for that. Goooood to hear how you do this. Thanks for letting me peek into your world, if not directly into your bedroom activities. lol.... I think you would be fun to listen to music with. Or to be a fly on the wall while you listen. (yeah, voyeur here) You're right - there IS a lot of good new stuff. A couple weeks ago I bought the soundtrack to WEEDS and its just about the only thing on my work iTunes, so I've listened and listened and its really growing on me. Not that that music is all "new" per se, but its not of the classic rock "rut" I am trying to escape. I like visions of people doing their Sunday morning newspaper thing. I think lots of people come near "Joni-ness" during this. They attain a near Joni state of grace and quality of life. Appreciate the paintings smiling on the walls, etc. also, ok, I see what you are saying about the possible comparison of iPod to flourescent light simply meaning seeing or hearing things "differently" in a different light or illuminated by a diff type of source....but I guess it's just that flourescent light is usually so unattractive and good only for the cheapest of applications (and growing marijuana, I hear). Wish he could have compared the iPod to, say, a mini-halogen. lol....but you know what?? It doesn't matter. :) thx again for playing... Em - --- Cassy wrote: > > I think he meant something completely different, Em. Looking at > something > in daylight, incandescent bulb light and fluorescent light gives one > a > completely different perspective on an object which hasn't moved at > all, > fluorescent being the most recent of the three light-types. iPods > are the > latest, greatest thing to hit music technology and have > revolutionized how > people listen to their music. It's the same music but a whole new > way of > listening. > > If you'd asked me three years ago how I listen to music my answer > would have > been completely different than it is today. ...snip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers How'd Whitney Houston get in that list? Its like one of those tests: "which object does not belong in this set". Em - --- Andeemac2006 wrote: > Fred Hubers wrote:That India Aries was > brilliant > and presumably he thinks she is a worthy of comparison with Bruce > Springsteen, Joni Mitchell, Paul Simon, Roberta Flack, Aretha > Franklin, > or Whitney Houston and on and on indeed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:23:41 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Re Slide Guitartists and fantastic singers - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andeemac2006" <<< sorry to rant but the Best Slide Guitairists thread, backed up my Opinion. >>> It's all a matter of personal taste really but "Let's Do Time Warp Again" isn't my style at all. I enjoy some of the bands you listed but I also listen to more modern sounds too. As I mentioned in my post on where and how I listen what and how I listen depends on my mood and where I am in my life. I think Dave Matthews is brilliant, he's a newer artist and Lenny Kravitz really caught my attention when he released "Let Love Rule" (OK so maybe that's 17 years ago now but he's still releasing great music). Susan Tedeschi is awesome AND she can play guitar arguably to rival Bonnie Raitt. Sonya Kitchell is an up and coming young talent as is Joss Stone, Alicia Keyes and India Arie. Beck continues to reinvent himself and U2's 2004 release "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" is the best thing they've done in years. Willy Porter is someone on the newer side and his guitar work on "Road Bone" from "Falling Forward" rivals anything I've ever heard anyone do. Drive By Truckers are really fun to listen to and are extremely talented... damn I could go on and on but when someone has made up their mind to close their ears to anything that's not 20+ years old or "classic rock" who am I to try to change their minds? Classic Rock is Classic rock... it's a genre all on it's own there was a time and place for it and it can never be reinvented. The "classics" of today won't be "classic" for 20 more years and you're letting that pass you by not keeping your mind and your ears open. Cassy NP: Robbie Robertson - Words of Fire, Deeds of Blood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:13:44 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: where and how do you listen?? vljc << Gone are the days of being young enough to just enjoy doing nothing while I learn the lyrics to my favorite songs... lying on the floor on my belly poring over the album cover lyrics... well once in a while I still do that.>> I guess I haven't given it much thought, but I really don't sit home anymore to listen and do nothing. I used to love poring over the album cover lyrics, but now the tiny CD inserts have taken all the fun out of that! I mostly listen in my car, and YES, I will actually go for a drive to 'no place special' just for the purpose of listening to my music. I also listen to music at work with the headphones on. If I do listen at home, it's usually to hear something specific in a song, and if it's Joni, I'll get caught up in the moment and listen to the whole cd. If I clean up and mop the kitchen (which is rare), I'll put on a Mozart flute concerto. But if I vacuum or do dishes, I don't put any music on because I get very annoyed with all the noise interrupting my music. I also dislike reading books with music on. If I want to fall asleep to music, I have to dial in a jazz station on the clock radio. Any other type of music makes my brain want to plot out the direction of the melodies and analyze the lyrics. Busy brain = no sleep. Not a fan of ipods, or the shuffle at all. Whole album experience all the way! Mia ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #240 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)