From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #235 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 18 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 235 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: synesthesia [Snapple1984@aol.com] Re: unplugged night ride home video ["Fred Hubers" ] need joni help [Em ] Minnelli at the Outgames - now Joni Content ["Cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:06:48 EDT From: Snapple1984@aol.com Subject: Re: synesthesia Hi there, Gary. I hadnn't seen who posted this on the Laura board but I knew it must be you when it popped up again on the Joni board :) I personally have alwyas found the strict division of the senses a bit jarring. I'll have to flesh this idea out more, but to me the body is far more connected than we think and not so compartmentalized. If you've ever had rose hip jam you know what it tastes like - it tastes how it smells. We already know the sense of taste and smell are connected - why not others? This probably has no scientific basis, it's just my ramblings. But this concept kind of goes along with my idea that most mental disorders are not really disorders but just different ways of experiencing the world. It's just a question of reframing your mind. My advisor just put out a book called "Scenting Salvation" about the sense of smell in ancient Christianity. I might do my thesis on something related to this. Hope all is going well and I hope to see you at a Jonifest in spring! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:53:12 +0200 From: "Fred Hubers" Subject: Re: unplugged night ride home video Hi all, this video was shot when she was doing promotion for the Night Ride Home album. I remember seeing it on tv back then. She plays in Amsterdam for a Dutch unplugged tv-show called "Twee Meter Sessies". The guy at the end of the video is the presenter of that show, he's called Jan Douwe Kroeske. She played only one song, but it is a great moment in Dutch tv-history! It's nice to be of any help to you, Now back to lurkdom, Fred Hubers Netherlands ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: need joni help what's a good, concise, preferably short webpage that describes the genius of Joni's guitar playing?? I am having to try and refute someone's stated opinion that she merely strums and plays open tunings so she won't have to make "chords". I know the genius of it, YOU all know the genius of it....but I need to give a more technical yet simple description. thanks! Em ps am at work so have no time to search much right now...just thought someone might know off the top of their head where such a thing exists...maybe on JMDL! lol...who'd a thunk it ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:40:11 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Minnelli at the Outgames - now Joni Content - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael O'Malley" <<< And now for something completely trivial, like, who cares, but has anyone heard Liza singing live recently? Well, I saw the televised closing ceremony of the Outgames which headlined Minnelli recently in Montreal. Ok, the woman is now 60. Ok, she has put on a few pounds. But what happened to the voice ? I recall a discussion here some while ago about Anita O'Day, who'd gone on way too long past her expiry date. Well that day has arrived for Liza, I'm sad to say. What I heard was just a pale (and broken) reflection of her unique and powerful voice. The richness is gone, the agility is gone, and there's no more strength behind it. All I could think is : what a shame, what happened ? And there is no way I would pay good money to hear this person sing. Still, she was a hit, the crowd loved her. She pulled out her old tunes. But the magic is definitely gone. She seems to be desperately clinging to something that has, sadly, slipped away. I'm not seeing comments about this on the net. Just had to get this off my chest here. >>> Reply From: "Jerry Notaro" <<< I saw her singing "live" recently and it was obviously taped. Her voice was gone long ago, though I must also add that I am a big fan of her. She needs to stop trying to sing like a 25 year old and celebrate the experience and maturity in her style. Speaking of Miss O'Day, I just watched the entire History of Rock and Roll DVD set and must say I was impressed with her place in music history. I remember seeing her on the video of the 1959 Newport Jazz Festival scatting away in this huge black hat and wondering who in the heck she was. >>> Now for the Joni content: We've been asking some time about "when is Joni going to sing/perform/record again?" and there has been much discussion about her lower registers and the fact that she can no longer reach the high-notes of her younger days. Some people are willing to embrace the older, more mature Joni and others want to cling to their child and criticize her for her smoke-ravaged vocal chords. It's a matter of personal preference, I know. Reading about Liza and the fact that she continues to perform and sing when she is long past her prime... perhaps even no longer has anything to offer as a vocalist is telling to me. I wonder whether Joni's decision is that she doesn't want to be a parody of herself and try to recapture what once was. Perhaps, like some prime athlete, she wants to go out on a positive note and not drag on for years and years deteriorating to the point where some people - particularly those who still label her as a "folkie" - make insulting comparisons. I have loved everything musical and literate about Joni. I have loved much of her artwork (not all) and embraced her choices. If she chooses to be a visual artist and a grandmother at this time in her life, I have to accept that it is the right choice for her and not be churlish that she offers me nothing more for my ears. She is a perfectionist and it's quite possible that she knows her limitations. I just can't see her having the stamina for a tour in support of a new audio release and frankly, the state of the music industry today, I can't see her having the patience or the energy to promote sales. Warmly, Cassy NP: Akon - Journey (My brother's latest project - ask me if you care) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:51:01 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: need joni help Em schrieb: > what's a good, concise, preferably short webpage that describes the > genius of Joni's guitar playing?? I am having to try and refute > someone's stated opinion that she merely strums and plays open tunings > so she won't have to make "chords". I know this is something else than what you are looking for but I find this 1995 Guitar Player interview with JM very informative: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=119 moni ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #235 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)