From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #207 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, July 21 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 207 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders [guyb@rain.org] RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders [J Kendel Johnson ] RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders ["Richard Flynn" ] Backspin: 1991 [Jerry Notaro ] Another rave for George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin [Melis] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:17:01 GMT From: guyb@rain.org Subject: RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You know when I first came to America in 1974, one of the very first things I did was order these Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, for exactly this same reason - they had these Joni 'songs' on them that were totally unknown to my UK record collection. They turned out to be a bit disappointing - they are actually just short, spoken word stories/links from a concert, Carneige Hall if memory serves, with no musical content at all. But their existance verifies that Warner/Reprise vaults contain master quality Joni live shows - maybe we should lobby Rhino, who do a wonderful job of digging material out of the Warner/Reprise archives, and see if they could chisel permission for a full release out of Joni. Guy.....who also hasn't posted for quite a while, but reads the JMDL regularly and loves to follow all the JC, and the occasional NJC, threads >>>Frank Tortorici asked: when I was cleaning out my parents' basement today, I found an old Cat Stevens' vinyl LP that came with an innersleeve advertising some special record offers called The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, featuring hot artists of the period (early 70s) including Joni, who was featured with BYT, Chelsea Morning and a few other well-knowns. But she is also listed as contributing two songs I've never heard of: "Spoony's Wonderful Adventure" and "My American Skirt..." Anyone know anything about these? Frank Tortorici - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: RE: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders I had those albums, too, and, since I rarely got rid of any vinyl for any reason, I'm mystified as to how I lost them somewhere along the way. One of them -- titled Big Red Ball or something like that -- did have at least one song, The Fiddle And The Drum. J guyb@rain.org wrote: You know when I first came to America in 1974, one of the very first things I did was order these Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, for exactly this same reason - they had these Joni 'songs' on them that were totally unknown to my UK record collection. They turned out to be a bit disappointing - they are actually just short, spoken word stories/links from a concert, Carneige Hall if memory serves, with no musical content at all. But their existance verifies that Warner/Reprise vaults contain master quality Joni live shows - maybe we should lobby Rhino, who do a wonderful job of digging material out of the Warner/Reprise archives, and see if they could chisel permission for a full release out of Joni. Guy.....who also hasn't posted for quite a while, but reads the JMDL regularly and loves to follow all the JC, and the occasional NJC, threads >>>Frank Tortorici asked: when I was cleaning out my parents' basement today, I found an old Cat Stevens' vinyl LP that came with an innersleeve advertising some special record offers called The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders, featuring hot artists of the period (early 70s) including Joni, who was featured with BYT, Chelsea Morning and a few other well-knowns. But she is also listed as contributing two songs I've never heard of: "Spoony's Wonderful Adventure" and "My American Skirt..." Anyone know anything about these? Frank Tortorici - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:12:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: "hotel california" Rolling Stone magazine pretty much panned the book, saying that it was just a gossipfest and was not as good as Hoskyn's last book about The Band. They did throw a little Joni mention in the paragraph-long review anyway. Bob NP: Dweebish, "Every Little Thing" (Beatles cover) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Hi Frank- Long time no hear, and Oddmund, too! The cuts you mentioned were both snippets from a live concert recording-the first was a little story about Ian & Sylvia's little boy Spoony (if memory serves), the second was an intro to "Fiddle and the Drum"...where she says she's wearing her American Skirt, and how it's strange for Canadians to be political "even our Prime Minister isn't political-haha"...maybe others can fill in the details. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:37:02 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You're right on, Randy - Spoony was a nickname, according to the story Ian & Sylvia called him "Mr. Spoons" or "Spoony". If somebody doesn't beat me to it I'll send these 2 files out in mp3 format in the next couple of days. 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They did throw a little Joni mention in the paragraph-long review > anyway. > > Bob > > NP: Dweebish, "Every Little Thing" (Beatles cover) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you > are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, > dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken > in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. 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"Mr. Spoons," Clayton Dawson Tyson, seems to be following in his parents' footsteps (and renting bicycles on the side: http://www.quartette.com/Clay/Tyson.html NP: _Illuminations_ Buffy Sainte-Marie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:37 AM To: Randy Remote Cc: Tortorici, Frank; joni@smoe.org; owner-joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The Warner/Reprise Loss Leaders You're right on, Randy - Spoony was a nickname, according to the story Ian & Sylvia called him "Mr. Spoons" or "Spoony". If somebody doesn't beat me to it I'll send these 2 files out in mp3 format in the next couple of days. Bob - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I agree with Doug that Joni doesn't come off negatively in the book. By all means borrow it, unless like me you have quite a collection of r 'n' r books--mostly trashy. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:27 AM To: anon anon Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: "hotel california" I read this book a couple of days ago. My main problem with it is that the information is all second or third hand. It looks like the author just collected all the interviews and other author's books he could find and made a story out of it. I prefer some first hand knowledge even if it's only one perspective. Fortunately I didn't have to buy this book, a friend found it in a used book store (already!) and I borrowed it. I didn't think it was too negative on Joni. It's worth reading but try not to spend much money on it. Doug anon anon wrote: > Hi everyone... I missed the "Hotel California" book discussion... > what does everyone think of the book? Is it generally a well liked > book? I know there is a lot about Joni in it.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:05:05 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Backspin: 1991 From our Weekly Planet here in Tampa Bay: Backspin: 1991 Night Ride Home Joni Mitchell Geffen Although Mitchell9s 709s albums Blue and Court and Spark are regarded as her classic, this lesser known gem from the early 909s more than holds its own. Night Ride Home marked a move away from wanton experimentation into more succinct song orientation, with elegant melodies and literate lyrics, from kiss-offs (3The Windfall [Everything for Nothing]2). To harrowing narratives (3Cherokee Louise20. Mitchell9s voice takes on darker hues here, which meshes nicely with her flanged acoustic guitar. All told, Night Ride Home is an effort that is at once intimate and epic. Eric Snyder ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:34:02 +1000 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Another rave for George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin I know other folks have raved about George Michael's version of Edith and the Kingpin. I have always agreed that it is an outstanding take, but I was listening to it again this morning, and I just had to give it a bit of a rave myself. It is this recording that has turned me onto George Michael's singing, so I recently purchased his double "best of" album. I absolutely love his voice, and I'd dearly love to hear him do more Joni covers. He has such a mellow, smooth, sexy voice, but my only criticism is that I'd like to hear him be a little more adventurous with his instrument. I'd like to hear him do some more jazzy improvisation - he clearly has the talent, and his voice seems so right for some more Joni tunes. Melissa in Sydney NP in my head: George Michael, Edith and the Kingpin ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #207 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)