From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #148 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 23 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 148 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Fiddle and the Drum [andeemac2005@comcast.net] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum [Smurf ] Don Alias: His Last Interview [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Coyote ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Coyote ["Sherelle Smith" ] Terms of Sale [Nuriel Tobias ] TNT Tribute [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Re: TNT Tribute [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: TNT Tribute [Bob Muller ] Expanded Joni albums Info [andeemac2005@comcast.net] Re: TNT Tribute [Michael Paz ] Identity Coyote ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: The Fiddle and the Drum ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Identity Coyote [Bob Muller ] Look at those jokers [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Coyote [JLoehr4988@aol.com] Joni ringtones (VLJC) ["Lindsay Moon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:10:46 +0000 From: andeemac2005@comcast.net Subject: The Fiddle and the Drum Im listening to "Rainy Night House " what a beautifull song !!!! and dont you think that " the Fiddle and the Drum" would make a very good background song for a TV series or Documentry about the Iraq war, the words relate tottally, no offence intended just my Viewpoint. Sorry to repeat myself but Im reading more and more about the Expanded 3 CD's that are supposedly coming out of :- Hissing , Court and spark, and HERJIA !!!!! OMG now wouldnt that be interesting the mind boggles, do a google question and some sites come up with the same Information about them coming out in June. One site is called "Spin it" out of England. Andrew Neave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 03:34:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum - --- Andrew wrote: > dont you think that " the > Fiddle and the Drum" would make a very good > background song for a TV series or Documentry about > the Iraq war Background, schmackground. This song should be front and center, heard by every American -- many of them very kind and well-meaning people -- who thinks this war has anything at all to do with "all the good things (we) are." - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:10:03 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Don Alias: His Last Interview This article/interview was posted today on allaboutjazz.com. I'm passing it on in fond memory of Don. - -Julius Don Alias: Heart, Soul and Lungs By Mike Brannon We have lost one of the greats. The proverbial six-degrees-of-separation aside, Don Alias, has played with everyone. Active since the late b50s, he stands as easily the most influential percussionist in jazz and one of the few who ever transcended jazz and flamenco successfully and could by all accounts truly swing hard on congas. Alias has created or added an almost spiritual dimension to the pivotal work of Miles Davis, Joni Mitchell (touring with the dream band of Mike Becker, Jaco Pastorius, Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays), Sting, David Sanborn, Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Chick Corea, Mike Stern, John Scofield, George Benson, Lou Rawls, Roberta Flack, Blood Sweat and Tears, and Weather Report. The list is nearly endless. But like all great art, his music will continue to press the truth about all that is music, all that is art, all that is spiritual and human, and the apex of each. Among musicians it's a well known fact that, beyond all other instrumentalists, percussionists and drummers tend to have an innate and immediate connection, camaraderie and simpatico with each other--that sense of being instant brothers--something the likes of Jack DeJohnette, Peter Erskine and Tony Williams could easily attest to, relative to Alias. Though no doubt whatever Alias decided to do with his life would have benefited from his innate sensitivity and ability to listen and instantly respond, his original focus was medicine and biochemistry. But after early stints with Nina Simone as her musical director, and tours with Dizzy Gillespie, word spread fast and Alias soon became a top call percussionist. Alias was nothing if not full of life and energy. He truly lived--completely and to the edge. He always wanted to do it--whatever bitb was--bright now,b and put all of himself into it, because he knew life would always intervene, and it would happen whether we're living it or not. Don knew how to do it and showed that, with every blistered finger, every knowing grin, every drop of blood and sweat he paid to do this gig he so loved, and made us love--life and music--he could make them one. I last spoke with Alias on Sunday March 19, 2006 for close to an hour-and-a-half, and at the end, since he was tired and we'd still barely scratched the surface, we decided to set up another time to talk in the following week or two. Being in autobiographical mode, he was excited but not just about the interview--he was excited about everything, and seemed ready to jump on any and every project equally and immediately. But life intervened this time. The first week blurred into the second, and by Wednesday, March 29 there was an incredibly disturbing rumor going around that Don had passed in his apartment sometime Tuesday, March 28, just nine days after we'd talked. The worst part was that it wasn't a rumor. Don will be profoundly missed by so many. What follows is Donb s final interview: See the entire interview at: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=21694 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:52:39 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum Right on, Andrew. I hope you have the various live versions of RNH. They are all magnificent. And I've often posted that Fiddle and the Drum was the ultimate anti war song for this activist during the Vietnam War. Jerry > Im listening to "Rainy Night House " what a beautifull song !!!! and dont you > think that " the Fiddle and the Drum" would make a very good background song > for a TV series or Documentry about the Iraq war, the words relate tottally, > no offence intended just my Viewpoint. > > Sorry to repeat myself but Im reading more and more about the Expanded 3 CD's > that are supposedly coming out of :- Hissing , Court and spark, and HERJIA > !!!!! OMG now wouldnt that be interesting the mind boggles, do a google > question and some sites come up with the same Information about them coming > out in June. One site is called "Spin it" out of England. > > Andrew Neave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:42:46 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Coyote Wow! Thank you Judy! For almost thirteen years, I've wondered who Joni was referring to in this song! Your thoughts make perfect sense! I always think of a guitarist I once dated who fits this song perfectly! Now I know how close I hit the nail on the head. Joni's description of events and places on this song is so full of vivid imagery! I feel like I am right there at those "roadhouse lights" I always see it as a barn-like structure full of the smell of aging wood on the walls as well as the floor. I also see the little restaurant where "he's staring a hole in his scrambled eggs" and I actually seeing him sitting on a bar stool at the counter. That's always been my imagery of the song. It is so well done!!!! Sherelle Judy wrote: Hmm .I don"t think it's your mid term memory! Is the line Bob is thinking "you'll be brushing out a brood mare's tail" and if my mid term memory is still intact aren't we fairly certain Coyote is in fact the wonderful John Guerin who had a passion for horses as well as music (and Joni of course) I remember a thread a few years back referring to "he picks up my scent on his fingers" as Joni's reference to John's hands always smelling like horses as he apparently owned a ranch. "and you'll be up early on your ranch" I always thought most of Hejira was inspired by the ending of that relationship ( a remarkable one no doubt ) and the solo trip cross country that followed. Anyway, that's some of what I read into the best album of all time!! No regrets Coyote! Judy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:47:15 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Coyote Wow! Just when I was sold on John Guerin! You make a very good case too!!!! Very interesting!!! Sherelle Rick and Susan wrote: I searched the JMDL database for a discussion that took place in 2001 that convinced me that Coyote is indeed Sam Shepard. Here, in a bit of a jumble, are excerpts from several posts: Joni was touring with Rolling Thunder (and Sam) in 1975. The copyright for Coyote is 1976. From the song: HE'S TOO FAR FROM THE BAY OF FUNDY Sam Shepard said, "I've been upside down under falling horses at full gallop and I almost blew myself up once with a plastic milk bottle full of white gas on the Bay of Fundy, where they have the highest tides in the world." http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/storylines/bios/shepard.html And Sam also had a home in Canada. http://www.lopezbooks.com/articles/norman.html FROM APPALOOSAS AND EAGLES AND TIDES Appaloosas are horses of course, and Sam is a horseman. And tides probably refer again to the Bay of Fundy, where (as Sam says correctly) they have the highest tides in the world. AND THE CARBON RIBBON RIDES Sam is a playwright and says he's never owned a word processor, so he says. He types all his work on an old typewriter -- probably with a carbon ribbon. And Sam is a prisoner of the white lines of the freeway as well. He says, "I've learned to love to drive. I love long-distance driving. The farther the better. I love covering immense stretches in one leap: Memphis to New York City; Gallup to L.A.; Saint Paul to Richmond; Lexington to Baton Rouge; Bismarck to Cody. Leaps like these. Without a partner. Completely alone. Relentless driving. Driving until the body disappears, the legs fall off, the eyes bleed, the hands go numb, the mind shuts down, and then, suddenly, something new begins to appear." The line "Privately probing the public rooms, peeking through key holes and numbered doors, where the players lick their wounds and take their temporary lovers and their pills and powders to get them through this passion play, This explicitly refers to Sam Shepard (Coyote) as he documents the "Rolling Thunder" tour. He was specifically dispatched by Dylan to follow everyone around so he could write the screenplay for "Renaldo and Clara". The "players" are of course Dylan, Baez, Mitchell herself. There are plenty of other lines in the song that point to Shepard and the experience of the Rolling Thunder Tour. "We saw a farm house burning down, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, we ROLLED right past that tragedy." I don't feel like explaining every line but, if you want more proof, check out Shepard's "Rolling Thunder Log" (has lovely pics of Joni too.) ''i'm don juan's reckless daughter, i came out two days on your tail...''. joni was born on november 7, 1943 and sam shepard on november 5, 1943. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Terms of Sale It really bothers me that i (and probably u 2) have no idea of how many copies (of each album) Joni has sold. Has this been hushed? Did Christina Aguilera sell more albums in her short career than all of Joni's albums combined together? Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:57:50 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: TNT Tribute In the TNT tribute - when they flash to Joni several times in her balcony box - there is a man sitting next to her with dark hair - who is he?? - - - - - Stewart - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:04:23 +0000 From: andeemac2005@comcast.net Subject: Expanded Joni albums Info From somebody in England :- Andrew Thanks for the email I got the information on the expanded Joni Mitchell albums from an on-line service we pay for which shows new and up-and-coming release dates and information. The Joni's are down for a July 10th release and there is price information as a guide, interestingly though, there are no catalogue numbers. If, as you say, it's a ruse, then it's a fairly elaborate one - we'll just have to wait and see if they materialize - if they do you can point customers towards www.spincds.com if you like!! Thanks Alan @ SPIN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 18:36:44 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: TNT Tribute But she regrets that now!!! Paz > In a message dated 5/22/2006 5:24:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com writes: > > In the TNT tribute - when they flash to Joni several times in her balcony > box - there is a man sitting next to her with dark hair - who is he?? > > - - - - Stewart > > > > That be Donald...Myrtle introduced them :~) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:37:12 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Identity Coyote ok I'm thoroughly confused now! Is it Peter Coyote or Sam Sheppard? Anyone counting? Michael in Quebec NP: Champion - The Plow Kakki wrote: I may have told this story before when we were trying to figure out the identity of Joni's Coyote. Years ago I had to fly to San Jose and deliver reams of paper to be filed at the court there. Our flight had been delayed in L.A. and somehow one of my attorneys had made a deal with the court house to stay open late for my arrival. While in flight one of the flight attendants took mercy on me and moved me up to First Class so I could be the first one off the plane. As I moved up lugging two large litigation bags a very nice and familiar looking gentlemen rose up out of his aisle seat and offered it to me and also hoisted my bags into the stowed position. He was very friendly and kind. I knew he was an actor but it didn't dawn on me until I was getting off the plane that it was none other than Mr. Peter Coyote. Kakki _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: The Fiddle and the Drum andeemac2005@comcast.net wrote: The version on Miles of Aisles is spectacular. Jerry > No Jerry I dont have any live versions of RNH, I find it very difficult > to get any unreleased quality recordings of Joni. I would particularry > like to know if there is any reasonable quality recordings of when she > toured with Jaco and Pat, other than the one on the DVD and CD, I crave > everything on that period in time, Im a Jaco Pastorious fan, I saw the > Jaco, Alex Acuna, Weather Report band twice in that period and they blew > me away, its another tradgedy that this version of Weather Report where > not filmed Live. > I watch with wonder Shadows and Light on DVD for the Quality of Video and > everything, my only query is why didnt the widescreen version get > converted from the Laserdisc issue. I have posted a new Wallpaper at > jonimitchell.com. thanks > Andrew Neave. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:25:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Identity Coyote The flying fickle finger of fate points to...Sam Shepard. Maybe if you were to write the "lines", Michael: Sam Shepard is Coyote Sam Shepard is Coyote Sam Shepard is Coyote Sam Shepard is Coyote It'll help you to remember...or do you need a good caning? Bob NP: Neil Young, "Drive Back" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:21:43 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Look at those jokers Oh, Canada!!! The Stanley Cup hasn't been back home since 1990. Let's go Edmonton Oilers!!! DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:37:46 EDT From: JLoehr4988@aol.com Subject: Re: Coyote Well Sherelle. looks like the Coyote I thought was "dragging her out on the dance floor and dancing close and slow" is actually Sam Shepard? For 30 years I had John Guerin in my mind as Coyote, go figure...not that it matters really...but I could never understand why the song Coyote wouldn't had achieved a commercial success, released as a single or given radio air play, its such a great song, a feel good song to up the volume in the car..I still think it would work, you could get a whole new generation tuned in to Joni with a re-release of a song like Coyote, don't you think? I obviously don't get that part of the business...although I'm quite sure Joni gets it! Judy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:28:55 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Joni ringtones (VLJC) Sounds cool to me - just don't let Les know, he'll have a "Joni Ringtone" section on JM.com before you know it. Bob Funny you should mention this . I just went to Verizon in the ringtones section and after all the rap (ugh!!) offerings, I did a search for Joni. Came up with "The Man I Love" with Herbie. I played the sample and the lyrics are "the man I love, he'll be big and strong, the man I love." I guess you'd choose that ring for your husband . or whatever. I was surprised to find her there, thinking she'd probably put a kaibosh on any sort of cheesy marketing like this. Lindsay ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #148 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)