From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #145 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 20 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 145 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Coyote [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #144 [MattJones ] [none] ["Brian Hernandez" ] Re: The ever-popular TNT Tribute [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] New Wallpaper [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #144 ["Cassy" ] Re: Coyote [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) [andeemac2005@comcast.net] Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) [Jerry Notaro DJRD [Catherine McKay ] Re: Coyote -> DJRD [Bob Muller ] TNT Tribute Audio [Bob Muller ] Re: Coyote ["Randy Remote" ] Re: v [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Coyote -> DJRD [Smurf ] Re: Coyote [Michael Paz ] Re: Coyote [Rick and Susan ] Re: Coyote -> DJRD [Rick ] Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] One More From Hejira [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Coyote ["Randy Remote" ] One More Wallpaper [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:40:26 EDT From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Coyote The thread Bob M > "Picks up my scent on his fingers...." Ewwwwwwwww!" Then Catherine "Ewwww is right. i guess the real Coyote is probably about 80 by now. Ewwwwww!" But if Bob M is right (I suspect he is), she came out 2 days on his tail. So, we're talking about a Coyote who's only 62 - and got some flattering press in a recent gossip column (I think Liz Smith's - don't ask me why I read one of those for the first time in years a while ago - really !!) David L thinks she didn't ask his name - even over breakfast in the coffee shop ? Hey, don't you know, she's not some hit and run driver either, no - just a hitcher, a prisoner of the white lines on the freeway. Bob Sart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 05:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: MattJones Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #144 Neither of the Joni Remix links will open for me, and I even tried typing them in by hand. Any suggestions? rats live on no evil star - --------------------------------- Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1"/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:21:22 -0700 From: "Brian Hernandez" Subject: [none] Coming out of lurkdom to ask if anyone has an audio copy of Joni's TNT Tribute. I have it on VHS, but would like to have the option of listening to the music without having to pop the tape into the VCR all the time. I'd be happy to pay for a CD & postage...or maybe it can be sent through "yousendit." Thanks.Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:07:53 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The ever-popular TNT Tribute Hi Brian, I've got a nice audio copy and am happy to burn you a copy of it or like you said it would make a good yousendit issue. Unless somebody beats me to it I'll try and get that done today. If your preference is blanks & postage, let me know offlist (at my other address, scjoniguy@yahoo.com) Bob NP: Buena Vista Social Club, "Candela" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Any suggestions? >>> Sometimes Email programs split the link up into two lines and one has to hook them up together to make it work. Here are the two links without being divided: To download part one, go here: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=307920A24D498D66 Here is part two of the remix CD. http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D8106E5B6437506B I hope this works for you. Warmly, Cassy NP; Gimee Shelter - Live from Kansas City - John Mellencamp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:41:51 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Coyote Isn't "2 days on his tail" from DJRD? Am I missing something? Or am I losing my mid-term memory? LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 From: andeemac2005@comcast.net Subject: Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) This message has been processed by Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested levels of files were found. For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit http://ses.symantec.com/ Received: from smailcenter49.comcast.net ([204.127.205.149]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060519163221014005i2f3e>; Fri, 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 Received: from [24.147.77.160] by smailcenter49.comcast.net; Fri, 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 From: andeemac2005@comcast.net To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 Message-Id: <051920061632.5502.446DF315000251DB0000157E2200758942CACFCFC D0C0E030A0A0B020E@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: YW5kZWVtYWMyMDA1QGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative There is some talk around the net of 3 expanded Joni CD's this is one of the sites http://www.jukebox.ch/musik_album_infos.aspx?Katalog_ID=230476 http://www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9005697 Anybody know anything about this matter, the mind boggles truly !!!!!! new material from the Herjia days, OMG how exciting in what form could the new music be on the second disc. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed a section which didn't have a content-type header] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:52:10 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) We have been informed from reliable sources that the information is incorrect. Jerry > This message has been processed by Symantec's AntiVirus Technology. > > Unknown00000000.data was not scanned for viruses because too many nested > levels of files were found. > > > For more information on antivirus tips and technology, visit > http://ses.symantec.com/ > Received: from smailcenter49.comcast.net ([204.127.205.149]) by > comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20060519163221014005i2f3e>; Fri, > 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 > Received: from [24.147.77.160] by smailcenter49.comcast.net; Fri, 19 May > 2006 16:32:21 +0000 > From: andeemac2005@comcast.net > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) > Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:32:21 +0000 > Message-Id: <051920061632.5502.446DF315000251DB0000157E2200758942CACFCFC > D0C0E030A0A0B020E@comcast.net> > X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Apr 11 2006) > X-Authenticated-Sender: YW5kZWVtYWMyMDA1QGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.97c-p1 > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was multipart/alternative > > There is some talk around the net of 3 expanded Joni CD's this is one of the > sites > http://www.jukebox.ch/musik_album_infos.aspx?Katalog_ID=230476 > > http://www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9005697 > > Anybody know anything about this matter, the mind boggles truly !!!!!! new > material from the Herjia days, OMG how exciting in what form could the new > music be on the second disc. > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed a section which didn't have a content-type header] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Hejira (2-CD) Remastered & Expanded) I was the first to post about it and I even called my subject "this is probably bogus, but..." because I just couldn't imagine that it would be true. So Jerry is correct (as he usually is)- this hoax has been debunked by sources close to Joni who assure us that this is not in the works, at least not for the foreseeable future. Bob NP: Bruce, "Born In The USA" (alternate acoustic demo version) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:11:32 EDT From: JLoehr4988@aol.com Subject: Re: Coyote Hmm .I don"t think it's your mid term memory! Is the line Bob is thinking "you'll be brushing out a brood mare's tail" and if my mid term memory is still intact aren't we fairly certain Coyote is in fact the wonderful John Guerin who had a passion for horses as well as music (and Joni of course) I remember a thread a few years back referring to "he picks up my scent on his fingers" as Joni's reference to John's hands always smelling like horses as he apparently owned a ranch. "and you'll be up early on your ranch" I always thought most of Hejira was inspired by the ending of that relationship ( a remarkable one no doubt ) and the solo trip cross country that followed. Anyway, that's some of what I read into the best album of all time!! No regrets Coyote! Judy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 15:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD - --- JLoehr4988@aol.com wrote: > Hmm .I don"t think it's your mid term memory! Is the > line Bob is thinking > "you'll be brushing out a brood mare's tail" and if > my mid term memory is still > intact aren't we fairly certain Coyote is in fact > the wonderful John Guerin > who had a passion for horses as well as music (and > Joni of course) I remember > a thread a few years back referring to "he picks up > my scent on his fingers" > as Joni's reference to John's hands always smelling > like horses as he > apparently owned a ranch. "and you'll be up early on > your ranch" I always thought > most of Hejira was inspired by the ending of that > relationship ( a remarkable > one no doubt ) and the solo trip cross country that > followed. > Anyway, that's some of what I read into the best > album of all time!! > No regrets Coyote! > > > Judy DJRD is like Coyote, part 2. In some live concerts, Joni sings them one right after the other. The chords used are similar - from the same tuning and chord family (so are other songs, but these two really do fit together, thematically, musically & so on.) And DJRD the album is kind of a continuation of Hejira, where Joni is finishing up her road trip and coming back home. "I'm Don Juan's reckless daughter I came out two days on your tail Those two bald-headed days in November Before the first snowflakes sail" Some say it means "he" was born two days before Joni. That would make him a Scorpio like Joan. I always thought it meant she followed him a couple of days after he left (for wherever), one in a train, one in a plane. There has been discussion here that Coyote and the guy in DJRD are one and the same. John Guerin was born October 31, 1939 (Hallowe'en). Joni was born November 7, 1943. Peter Coyote was born October 10, 1941. Close but no cigar for the dates if it means Joni was born two days after whoever-it-was. Sam Shepard was born NOVEMBER 5, 1943 (two days before Joni) and some think that Sam Shepard is the "he" in DJRD. Did they ever meet? I don't know and I don't much care - but I do love both songs. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:44:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD Subject: TNT Tribute Audio O-tay, here you go Brian and whoever else may want it...here'e the audio (songs only) for the TNT Tribute: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E510417134586266 Bob, heading up to Asheville to see Mark Kozelek and I'm very excited NP: Moby, "Inside" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:13:04 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Coyote - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Isn't "2 days on his tail" from DJRD? > Am I missing something? Or am I losing my mid-term memory? You're right, it's from DJRD. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" Sam Shepard was born > NOVEMBER 5, 1943 (two days before Joni) and some think > that Sam Shepard is the "he" in DJRD. Did they ever > meet? I had heard Coyote was about SS....that pretty much clinches it in my mind-I think he had a ranch out in the desert somewhere, too....(I guess you never know, since songs can be combinations of things, too...)....the part about being up early with the horses....not usually a musician's schedule, unless Guerin was a very different drummer. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:18:17 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: v Hi folks. It seems some people are having trouble following the link to download the remix compilation. The link is not intact. You need to copy this whole line and paste it into your browser. For part one: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php? action=download&ufid=307920A24D498D66 For part two: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php? action=download&ufid=D8106E5B6437506B For the CD cover: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php? action=download&ufid=EA03EB152B5A2CF1 Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 19:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD - --- Catherine wrote: > There has been discussion here that Coyote and the > guy > in DJRD are one and the same. John Guerin was born > October 31, 1939 (Hallowe'en). Joni was born > November > 7, 1943. Peter Coyote was born October 10, 1941. God, if I'm the only one who's been paying attention lo, these long years -- we're all in trouble. Many years ago Wally from Mexico or wherever revealed that Sam Sheppard's birthday is November 5, 1943 -- two days before Joni's. I had forgotten I had a memory . . . - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:53:09 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Coyote Simple simon??? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: >> Isn't "2 days on his tail" from DJRD? >> Am I missing something? Or am I losing my mid-term memory? > > You're right, it's from DJRD. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Catherine McKay" > Sam Shepard was born >> NOVEMBER 5, 1943 (two days before Joni) and some think >> that Sam Shepard is the "he" in DJRD. Did they ever >> meet? > > I had heard Coyote was about SS....that pretty much clinches > it in my mind-I think he had a ranch out in the desert somewhere, > too....(I guess you never know, since songs can be > combinations of things, too...)....the part about being up early > with the horses....not usually a musician's schedule, unless Guerin > was a very different drummer. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:58:03 -0700 From: Rick and Susan Subject: Re: Coyote I searched the JMDL database for a discussion that took place in 2001 that convinced me that Coyote is indeed Sam Shepard. Here, in a bit of a jumble, are excerpts from several posts: Joni was touring with Rolling Thunder (and Sam) in 1975. The copyright for Coyote is 1976. From the song: HE'S TOO FAR FROM THE BAY OF FUNDY Sam Shepard said, "I've been upside down under falling horses at full gallop and I almost blew myself up once with a plastic milk bottle full of white gas on the Bay of Fundy, where they have the highest tides in the world." http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/storylines/bios/shepard.html And Sam also had a home in Canada. http://www.lopezbooks.com/articles/norman.html FROM APPALOOSAS AND EAGLES AND TIDES Appaloosas are horses of course, and Sam is a horseman. And tides probably refer again to the Bay of Fundy, where (as Sam says correctly) they have the highest tides in the world. AND THE CARBON RIBBON RIDES Sam is a playwright and says he's never owned a word processor, so he says. He types all his work on an old typewriter -- probably with a carbon ribbon. And Sam is a prisoner of the white lines of the freeway as well. He says, "I've learned to love to drive. I love long-distance driving. The farther the better. I love covering immense stretches in one leap: Memphis to New York City; Gallup to L.A.; Saint Paul to Richmond; Lexington to Baton Rouge; Bismarck to Cody. Leaps like these. Without a partner. Completely alone. Relentless driving. Driving until the body disappears, the legs fall off, the eyes bleed, the hands go numb, the mind shuts down, and then, suddenly, something new begins to appear." The line "Privately probing the public rooms, peeking through key holes and numbered doors, where the players lick their wounds and take their temporary lovers and their pills and powders to get them through this passion play, This explicitly refers to Sam Shepard (Coyote) as he documents the "Rolling Thunder" tour. He was specifically dispatched by Dylan to follow everyone around so he could write the screenplay for "Renaldo and Clara". The "players" are of course Dylan, Baez, Mitchell herself. There are plenty of other lines in the song that point to Shepard and the experience of the Rolling Thunder Tour. "We saw a farm house burning down, in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, we ROLLED right past that tragedy." I don't feel like explaining every line but, if you want more proof, check out Shepard's "Rolling Thunder Log" (has lovely pics of Joni too.) ''i'm don juan's reckless daughter, i came out two days on your tail...''. joni was born on november 7, 1943 and sam shepard on november 5, 1943. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:15:45 -0700 From: Rick Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD Here's the quote from the Lopez Books website. This pretty much clinches it, as far as I'm concerned. In 1978 (or thereabouts), another small and interesting volume of Norman's writings was published in a tiny edition. Norman........ had been in touch with writer Sam Shepard, whose house in Canada he was then going to visit. A small Canadian publisher assembled a volume of Norman's Nova Scotia journal, including both a letter from Sam Shepard and some pages from the radio play Shepard was working on at the time. Also included in the publication was a photograph of Shepard and Norman together. The "book," if it can be properly called that, was titled Bay of Fundy Journal . Rick, slipping back under cover. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:26:22 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Subject: Re: Coyote -> DJRD Nice post, Catherine. Maybe "Coyote" is a composite of all 3. Was Peter Coyote the actual guy quoted when she wrote: >>>>he says: "Snakes along the railroad tracks" He says, "Eagles in jet trails" He says, "Coils around feathers and talons on scales Gravel under the belly plates" He says, "Wind in the Wings" He says, "Big bird dragging its tail in the dust Snake kite flying on a string">>>> Jim From: Catherine McKay DJRD is like Coyote, part 2. In some live concerts, Joni sings them one right after the other. The chords used are similar - from the same tuning and chord family (so are other songs, but these two really do fit together, thematically, musically & so on.) And DJRD the album is kind of a continuation of Hejira, where Joni is finishing up her road trip and coming back home. "I'm Don Juan's reckless daughter I came out two days on your tail Those two bald-headed days in November Before the first snowflakes sail" Some say it means "he" was born two days before Joni. That would make him a Scorpio like Joan. I always thought it meant she followed him a couple of days after he left (for wherever), one in a train, one in a plane. There has been discussion here that Coyote and the guy in DJRD are one and the same. John Guerin was born October 31, 1939 (Hallowe'en). Joni was born November 7, 1943. Peter Coyote was born October 10, 1941. Close but no cigar for the dates if it means Joni was born two days after whoever-it-was. Sam Shepard was born NOVEMBER 5, 1943 (two days before Joni) and some think that Sam Shepard is the "he" in DJRD. Did they ever meet?> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:57:53 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #144 > rats live on no evil star kewl pallindrome. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:17:30 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: One More From Hejira I guess I must be on a Hejira kick right now. I have just uploaded yet another wallpaper for a Hejira track. This time it is for the song, Furry Sings The Blues. Enjoy. Mark in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:13:54 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Coyote Sissy Spacek! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Paz" To: "Randy Remote" Cc: "Joni Digest" Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Coyote > Simple simon??? > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >>> Isn't "2 days on his tail" from DJRD? >>> Am I missing something? Or am I losing my mid-term memory? >> >> You're right, it's from DJRD. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Catherine McKay" >> Sam Shepard was born >>> NOVEMBER 5, 1943 (two days before Joni) and some think >>> that Sam Shepard is the "he" in DJRD. Did they ever >>> meet? >> >> I had heard Coyote was about SS....that pretty much clinches >> it in my mind-I think he had a ranch out in the desert somewhere, >> too....(I guess you never know, since songs can be >> combinations of things, too...)....the part about being up early >> with the horses....not usually a musician's schedule, unless Guerin >> was a very different drummer. >> RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 15:40:24 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: One More Wallpaper I'm either feeling inspired or really bored. You be the judge. Here's another wallpaper. This time it's A Strange Boy. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #145 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)